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Waiting for the leak of what was sent to FIFA
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+x+x+xI personally hope that the Lowys withdraw every cent they put into the game. Sure, acknowledging that we wouldn't have a national cup, a semi-pro league (NSL) a shit professional league or even Harry Kewell and the sport's high school aside, what has their money and influence ever done for us? The money for WSW formation and SBS coverage goes without saying. I cannot give them much credit, if any, for the quality of owners they recruited for their bullshit A League. That alone is cause for their complete removal from the game IMHO. Well there's the women's league you could point to and joining the AFC and 5 world cup appearances but just what the fuck have they ever done for us???? Lately? History tells us that sometimes even the greatest revolutionary leaders, who leads us out of the darkness, also loses their way, once out of the darkness. Lowy = Mugabe. Came to power and everyone was hopeful. Kicked out ethnics he didn't like. Stuck around too long, crushed dissenters. Horrible mismanagement. Finally thrown out after too much damage was done. Except the part about countless innocents butchered while holding on to power etc. I see where you're going there but that is an awful comparison and a huge over-reach. Hitler also fits the bill on that criteria too. Its a football competition.
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+xWaiting for the leak of what was sent to FIFA FFA to leak first - Very out of context paragraphs to rev up the unhappy Feds more
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+x+xWaiting for the leak of what was sent to FIFA FFA to leak first - Very out of context paragraphs to rev up the unhappy Feds more
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+x+x+xWaiting for the leak of what was sent to FIFA FFA to leak first - Very out of context paragraphs to rev up the unhappy Feds more  My guess you get an A-League team if you vote no.
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+x+x+x+xWaiting for the leak of what was sent to FIFA FFA to leak first - Very out of context paragraphs to rev up the unhappy Feds more  My guess you get an A-League team if you vote no.
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+x+x+x+xWaiting for the leak of what was sent to FIFA FFA to leak first - Very out of context paragraphs to rev up the unhappy Feds more  My guess you get an A-League team if you vote no. I would almost guarentee this was part of the bargaining
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Gatty Grumpier than usual
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football-festers-in-state-of-flux/news-story/18f258c824da100b2114b088af276e68
Football festers in state of flux. . . . Just when you think the game might be making some headway you have certain groups, allegedly with the help of FFA, trying to derail a proper, well meaning, well thought out process — agreed by all the parties — that has been put into place with the betterment of the sport in mind. It is madness and smacks of self preservation. In my 46 years in journalism, some 40 years of it covering this great sport of ours, I have seen many ups and downs, many moments and decisions that have defied logic and wanted me to bang my head against a brick wall in utter frustration. This is one of those times. . . .
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So how can the local football communities in Canberra, NT and the north coast start petitioning their local association to not block the change and prolong our sports suffering. They need to know that being blackmailed by the FFA is not an option the public accepts! Locals need to be bombarding them with calls and emails to make it clear no blocks shall be placed to progress.
It is a little hard not having the report to view ourselves but one can only hope that the committee after a long and consultative process could come up with some decent measures to start re-building our code from the ground up
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Reading on TWG that ACT and NT state feds are 2 of the FFA dissenters to the working group findings.
I live in one of those 2 areas but if that is the case its a clear example of why this needs to be fixed. That 2 of the demographically smallest member feds can wield so much power is beyond belief. there needs to be a weighting system based on member numbers or something. I know that means the more populous states will have more power but if thats where more people are so be it.
The whole state fed concepts is broken anyway. Scrap the lot and introduce regions that are overseen by the national body without a second layer of unnecessary state feds.
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It seems to me, just perhaps, that the 442 torch and pitchfork community may have lost sight of a couple of minor points.
This isn't an FFA process that's been underway. It's a FIFA circus. They get to write the final summary. FIFA run it, rule it, print it. Maybe even release it, if they choose to.
There's only one FFA observer (no vote) and it isn't Lowy or whathisname CEO. They aren't running anything
If there's no agreement by the parties present then FIFA move to arbitration. They decide and implement what they see as best meeting their desired outcome. What's wrong with you lot? We all trust FIFA right?? Reeeeeelaaaaaxxx.
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Someone mentioned on here that the lowy's are doing this to avoid jail time might be spot on
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+xSomeone mentioned on here that the lowy's are doing this to avoid jail time might be spot on Avoid jail time for what exactly?
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+xIt seems to me, just perhaps, that the 442 torch and pitchfork community may have lost sight of a couple of minor points. This isn't an FFA process that's been underway. It's a FIFA circus. They get to write the final summary. FIFA run it, rule it, print it. Maybe even release it, if they choose to. There's only one FFA observer (no vote) and it isn't Lowy or whathisname CEO. They aren't running anything If there's no agreement by the parties present then FIFA move to arbitration. They decide and implement what they see as best meeting their desired outcome. What's wrong with you lot? We all trust FIFA right?? Reeeeeelaaaaaxxx. FFA have been given ample opportunity to provide their own version of the required reform. They failed and in turn forfieted their right to a say.
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+xThere's only one FFA observer (no vote) and it isn't Lowy or whathisname CEO. They aren't running anything If there's no agreement by the parties present then FIFA move to arbitration. They decide and implement what they see as best meeting their desired outcome. I think in your haste to attack everyone here constantly you got confused and forget that the parties present in the working group HAVE agreed to something to be put in place. The FFA is bargaining with the smallest federations to block this agreement from passing in a month or two when the Northern bloody Territory can decide the way forward for football in Australia Despite them voting on the 4 members of the working group
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+xIf there's no agreement by the parties present then FIFA move to arbitration. They decide and implement what they see as best meeting their desired outcome. What's wrong with you lot? We all trust FIFA right?? Reeeeeelaaaaaxxx. Seems to me more of a chance of P&R being bought in if FIFA are running things for a while. Might cost some lobster, but would be worth it.
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Football Federation Australia (FFA) today acknowledged the completion and submission of the report of the Congress Review Working Group (CRWG) to FIFA and the AFC.
The report was the culmination of seven weeks of extensive consultation by the CRWG, and included input from other stakeholders in the football community. The CRWG was independently chaired by Judith Griggs and comprised two A-League Club representatives, four Member Federation representatives, a PFA representative, and a representative of the FFA Board.
From the outset, FFA has supported expansion of its Congress to reflect the evolution of football in Australia and balance the interests of each part of the game, including significant movement towards gender equality at all levels of governance.
FFA has also embraced the need for a new A-League governance and operating model that benefits the whole of football.At the commencement of the CRWG process, the independent FFA Board agreed on a number of founding principles that it considered to be in the best interests of the game.
These guiding principles, which were submitted to the CRWG, included:- a bigger and broader membership in line with international benchmarks
- embedded and genuine gender equality, from the FFA Board down through all football institutions in Australia
- the immediate admission of Special Interest Groups (SIGs)
- a balanced Congress which reflects the significance and contribution of community and professional football
- clear delineation between the role of Congress and the responsibilities of an independent FFA board
FFA Chairman Steven Lowy AM said that FFA is committed to working to ensure the governance of the game continues to evolve in the best interests of the whole of football.
“FFA has been supportive of the CRWG process from the beginning and is committed to working constructively with all stakeholders. There are many elements of the report which are positive steps and wholly supported by the FFA Board. However, there are also some crucial aspects of the report which the FFA Board does not believe are in the best interests of the game and are inconsistent with its guiding principles,” he said.
FFA totally rejected any suggestion that it has sought to interfere with the work of the CRWG or pressure the decision-making of stakeholders.
“There have been some media reports that suggest FFA has sought to unduly influence the work of the CRWG. These claims are completely false. FFA has always encouraged all stakeholders to openly debate and carefully consider these important issues particularly given the inevitable difficulty of only having some Member Federations on the CRWG,” concluded Lowy.
FFA remains committed to working constructively with FIFA, AFC and all the stakeholders to produce the best outcome for the game as a whole.
A copy of the FFA Board’s guiding governance principles submitted to the CRWG is available here.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha the FFA need to and should fuck right off.
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+x+xSomeone mentioned on here that the lowy's are doing this to avoid jail time might be spot on Avoid jail time for what exactly? Could be any number of things. Fraud? Misappropriation of funds? Corruption? Giving and/or receiving bribes? All of the above? Could add up to a pretty substantial case if evidence exists and can be obtained. Particularly interesting is that the FFA have continually refused to release records relating the the failed 22 WC bid. The bid used government funding and if those funds were used inappropriately (eg: to buy votes), then that could be a pretty serious situation.
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+xHahahahahahahahahahahahaha the FFA need to and should fuck right off. You've got to admire their balls for daring to try this on
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It dated 10 June 2018 at the bottom? EDIT: Right click and view document details 3:07pm 1st August
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+x+x+xSomeone mentioned on here that the lowy's are doing this to avoid jail time might be spot on Avoid jail time for what exactly? Could be any number of things. Fraud? Misappropriation of funds? Corruption? Giving and/or receiving bribes? All of the above? Could add up to a pretty substantial case if evidence exists and can be obtained. Particularly interesting is that the FFA have continually refused to release records relating the the failed 22 WC bid. The bid used government funding and if those funds were used inappropriately (eg: to buy votes), then that could be a pretty serious situation. I'm willing to bet its all of the above too. And if this is the case, we'll see how deep this really goes Heads will roll
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Actual file creation date (the date the PDF was generated) was today 01-Aug-18 at 15:07:50 PM. Author on the file is Jo Setright.
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+xIt dated 10 June 2018 at the bottom? I meant when was the web page crated I don't know what I'm looking at but this means something happened 35 minutes ago I think
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+xActual file creation date (the date the PDF was generated) was today 01-Aug-18 at 15:07:50 PM). Author on the file is Jo Setright. OK thanks
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+x+xIt dated 10 June 2018 at the bottom? I meant when was the web page crated I don't know what I'm looking at but this means something happened 35 minutes ago I think  Yep corrected after I realised what you meant. I agree with @someguy
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So have FFA even shown their accounting books yet? If not then agree this is something fishy.... maybe they use FFA as a method for tax write off? Or paying overseas 'friends' via international games and training camps.
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+xActual file creation date (the date the PDF was generated) was today 01-Aug-18 at 15:07:50 PM. Author on the file is Jo Setright.
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