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+x+xLeo Athanasakis has announced he is stepping down as SMFC president, he might throw his hat in the ring. I don't think he can nominate for 2 years after being involved in an official position with a club. Can always just change the rules haha -PB
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+x+x+xLeo Athanasakis has announced he is stepping down as SMFC president, he might throw his hat in the ring. I don't think he can nominate for 2 years after being involved in an official position with a club. Can always just change the rules haha -PB Takes about 2 years for rules to get changed so that checks out.
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+x+xLeo Athanasakis has announced he is stepping down as SMFC president, he might throw his hat in the ring. I don't think he can nominate for 2 years after being involved in an official position with a club. OK. I thought that rule was A-League clubs not NPL clubs as well.
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+x+x+x+xLeo Athanasakis has announced he is stepping down as SMFC president, he might throw his hat in the ring. I don't think he can nominate for 2 years after being involved in an official position with a club. Can always just change the rules haha -PB Takes about 2 years for rules to get changed so that checks out. Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee -PB
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@bigpoppa, This is the relevant clause in the constitution:- "15.15 Eligibility - (a) Subject to article article 15.16(d) a person who:
- (i) is or has within the two years ending on the date of their nomination been an employee (other than the Chief Executive Officer) of FFA or been an employee of a State Body Member or is or has been within the three years ending of the date of their nomination been the Chief Executive Officer of FFA ;
- (ii) is or has within the two years ending on the date of their nomination been a member of a Standing Committee; or
- (iii) holds or has within the two years ending on the date of their nomination held any Official Position,
(each a Disqualifying Position) may not stand for or hold office as a Director."
From the definitions:- "Official Position means an office or position, whether elected or appointed, as: - (a) president, chairman, vice-president, deputy chairman, secretary, treasurer, director, committee member or member of the governing body (however described) of a club, association (incorporated or unincorporated) or company (including a State Body Member, but excluding FFA) conducting, participating in or administering Football or any Football competition in Australia; or
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+xSport Australia enters debate over changes to FFA constitution
“A detailed and public statement in regard to our view of the report will be released next week.
https://t.co/1QwXpXdTPL
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+x+xSport Australia enters debate over changes to FFA constitution
“A detailed and public statement in regard to our view of the report will be released next week.
https://t.co/1QwXpXdTPL
Not like football to be tardy on governance issues. Keen on those transfer fees and legal pyro just quietly.
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Gaz you know Centrelink can now data match with your isp the amount of time you spend on the net and correlate that with your looking for work efforts. You’re skating on thin ice mate.
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Who knows.. Maybe they were informed what government intervention means
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+xGaz you know Centrelink can now data match with your isp the amount of time you spend on the net and correlate that with your looking for work efforts. You’re skating on thin ice mate. Friday is Davide's day to get all grumpy with me. You're not as good at it
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+x+xGaz you know Centrelink can now data match with your isp the amount of time you spend on the net and correlate that with your looking for work efforts. You’re skating on thin ice mate. Friday is Davide's day to get all grumpy with me. You're not as good at it Hellooooooo Sorry to let you down today. Going to see Custard tonight who played at the first proper gig I ever went to in 1996 so I'm feeling all nostalgic. Hang on let's see.... Oh yeah, that post you did about Franchisors supplying products with the Honda and Muscat picture....yeah, I bet you were pretty happy with that one. Could have almost packed up your desk and gone home for the day in your mind, right? There you go
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+x+x+xGaz you know Centrelink can now data match with your isp the amount of time you spend on the net and correlate that with your looking for work efforts. You’re skating on thin ice mate. Friday is Davide's day to get all grumpy with me. You're not as good at it Hellooooooo Sorry to let you down today. Going to see Custard tonight who played at the first proper gig I ever went to in 1996 so I'm feeling all nostalgic. Hang on let's see.... Oh yeah, that post you did about Franchisors supplying products with the Honda and Muscat picture....yeah, I bet you were pretty happy with that one. Could have almost packed up your desk and gone home for the day in your mind, right? There you go I'll take that as a 'like'
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Backpedal 101, then frontpedal again Sport Australia respects the independence of FFA, including FIFA Statute 15(c), and the need for FFA to be independent and avoid any form of political interference. These views made by Sport Australia are to be in no way taken as interference from the Federal Government. However as a major investor in football in Australia and a range of Sport Australia documents being referenced as supporting documents tabled to the CRWG, including the Sports Governance Principles, it is appropriate for Sport Australia to express a view
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Main whinge sounding awfully Lowyish Lowy sells HAL licenses to foreigners, then it's a problem if they're given a minority say PFA and Griffin are going to gang up, but I guess the 55% Feds can't do anything about it. The CRWG’s revised Congress model is of concern to Sport Australia due to the substantially increased allocation of votes placed in favour of the professional game at the expense of grassroots football.
The current proposal provides that 41% of member votes be allocated to the professional game (which includes for-profit clubs) enabling a veto position on key issues for football in Australia such as FFA director elections and future changes to its constitution.
Furthermore, some of these for-profit clubs are internationally owned. Therefore, the strong proposed influence of the professional game within the Congress of FFA, and the offshore ownership base of many of those clubs, should be considered by the current FFA members in deciding on these proposals.
This model of expanded Congress, combined with the proposed influence of the Congress members in the various committees, is a risk for the sport. As football receives such a significant portion of its annual revenue through participation fees from players (“bottom-up funding”), it is critically important that an independent board is empowered to act for the good of the game as a whole, and is not subjected to the vagaries or influences of conflicted parties such as advisory group members or Congress members that may have a pecuniary interest in decision making.
Sport Australia Position:The current FFA members need to carefully consider how an expanded Congress may be in a position to veto key issues for football in Australia such as FFA director elections and future changes to its constitution.
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As football receives such a significant portion of its annual revenue through participation fees from players (“bottom-up funding”), it is critically important that an independent board is empowered to act for the good of the game as a whole, and is not subjected to the vagaries or influences of conflicted parties such as advisory group members or Congress members that may have a pecuniary interest in decision making.
Over to you, Funding Gurus
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+xBackpedal 101, then frontpedal again Sport Australia respects the independence of FFA, including FIFA Statute 15(c), and the need for FFA to be independent and avoid any form of political interference. These views made by Sport Australia are to be in no way taken as interference from the Federal Government. However as a major investor in football in Australia and a range of Sport Australia documents being referenced as supporting documents tabled to the CRWG, including the Sports Governance Principles, it is appropriate for Sport Australia to express a view Based on the numbers being thrown around, they contribute a fraction of the cash that Marconi's poker machines do to football. Sport Australia can fuck off.
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It would be interesting if FIFA issues an intervention warning...
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The CRWG mandateSA: "However the CRWG’s Report provides detailed recommendations beyond this, in ways that do not line up with Sport Australia’s view of best practice governance principles." FIFA accepted these recommendations as in the best interest of Football in Australia Congress role in FFA
SA" "The ultimate governance model proposed by the CRWG is, in the opinion of Sport Australia, flawed insofar as best practice governance principles. In short, the CRWG proposed model sees the FFA Congress not only elect the FFA board but also populate Standing Committees to advise the Board. This creates a governance system in which the Board (which ultimately has legal responsibility for the whole organisation) is subservient to advisory committees, the formation of which it is not involved in, and which are not accountable to the Board. This creates risk, compromises the independence of the Board, and restricts the ability of directors to fulfil their fiduciary duties. The CRWG recommends that certain committees (Compliance Committee, Nominations Committee and Ethics Committee) report to the Congress rather than the Board."
My reading of CRWG report pages 36/37 "Board (sub) Committees In keeping with the Australian Corporations Act, the FFA Board must feel free to create subcommittees relevant to its specific mandate and the functions of the Board. These Board sub committees are not inconsistent with the Standing Committees required by Congress, but the former must acknowledge the roles of the Standing Committees and their function of the Membership and act cognisantly of the needs of Congress."
Sport Australia Missed "CRWG Congress Review Diagram #13
• Audit & Compliance• Nominations• Appeals• Disciplinary• Ethics committees are listed as reporting only to the Board!
At finding this inconsistency in reporting by Sport Australia I will end my (interested party) summary
Clear Contact There
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Thats an excellent paper....
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Great read. Bonita nails it. It just needs to catch the eye of all those making a vote on October 2. The truth is out there!
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Final Paragraph
If the recommendations are not agreed, FIFA has two options: 1. Install a ‘full’ Normalisation Committee, rather than the ‘Normalisation Lite’ version of the CRWG. This will essentially go through the same exercise as the CRWG with the same organiation and individuals. Such a committee would be at the direction of FIFA, whereas the chair of the CRWG, Judith Griggs, was not directed by FIFA on a day-to-day basis. In reality also, a ‘Normalisation Heavy’ committee is unlikely to recommend anything much different from the CRWG, and FIFA may take a dim view of having given Australia’s football stakeholders so long to get its ‘house in order’ without an agreed outcome. 2. Suspend FFA from FIFA for continuing non-compliance and inability to meet FIFA statutory requirements. In this instance, it would be until there is a governance model in place that meets the requirements of FIFA (specifically Article 15j) as well as the requirements of the Australian Corporations Act – in effect, what the CRWG has come up with. Suspension can be imposed temporarily by the FIFA Council and is subject to ratification by the FIFA Congress when it next meets. Suspension means that Australia would not take part in the Asian Cup, the Women’s World Cup, any international competition, qualifying or friendly matches, would not have any contact with international football entities until the suspension is lifted, or be able to submit a bid to host the 2023 Women’s World Cup. The issue for the Members when they vote on 2 October is not to react to the scare-mongering about whether a new FFA Congress may “veto key issues” for football, as Sport Australia suggests, but the extent to which they are prepared to be held responsible for throwing away the gains of the past 15 years, as well as the potential of the short term and long term future by inviting suspension.
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Bonita demolished the arguments against the CRWG recommendations.
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If you had no idea what country was involved in this fiasco,,based on reading the gory details of the incumbent and their allies you would think this was all happenning in a third world dictatorship.
How about another Royal commission .This time on sporting bodies and their ethical behaviour and waste of public money.
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That was so well written by Bonita. big round of applause.
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The thing is, if FIFA bans us, the FFA cronies will be chased out of office and the changes will have to be made anyway for the ban to be lifted.
I’m not sure what FFA or Sport Australia gain by having us be banned first instead of just letting the changes happen 🤔
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+xThe thing is, if FIFA bans us, the FFA cronies will be chased out of office and the changes will have to be made anyway for the ban to be lifted.I’m not sure what FFA or Sport Australia gain by having us be banned first instead of just letting the changes happen 🤔 Sometimes people are just straight up shit - oops, I just ate my own poop...s for the sake of being shit - oops, I just ate my own poop...s. -PB
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