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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xBreakthru by Starc. That is only his 4th wicket of the series Is that all? Yep and he is our strike bowler. He has always been inconsistent, but as long as he is taking wickets, nobody worries. His foot could be worrying him. Then he should not have been picked. We need him fit and firing. Cummins and Hazlewood are injured. Stanlake can only bowl a few overs. They didn't select Bird. Sayers and Jhye Richardson got ruff deals after being recent reservists. Sayers in particular would be handy on these decks. I have to be critical of Paine's captaincy. He failed to bring Labuchagne on sooner and the leggie proved to be our only other multi wicketaker. How long before he introduces him in the second. Holland has been mediocre. Would have preferred Agar who is an attacking left armer. Holland got a few wickets.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xBreakthru by Starc. That is only his 4th wicket of the series Is that all? Yep and he is our strike bowler. He has always been inconsistent, but as long as he is taking wickets, nobody worries. His foot could be worrying him. Then he should not have been picked. We need him fit and firing. Cummins and Hazlewood are injured. Stanlake can only bowl a few overs. They didn't select Bird. Sayers and Jhye Richardson got ruff deals after being recent reservists. Sayers in particular would be handy on these decks. Sayers only bowls 120 kph. Slowest specialist fast bowler we've picked in 20 years of speed guns. Part timers Mark Waugh, Shane Watson, Greg Blewett, James Faulkner and Marsh are much quicker. Pace is not everything as Philander and Abbas prove. Sayers swings it both ways.
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Ok. What do we need to restrict Paks to to still be a chance?
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+x+x+xAbsolute shambles of a team, only we could have a team 5/60 and a day later have more or less lost the test. We struggle in Asia. Most Aussies don't see it. Out of sight, out of mind. We see and we dont like it. CA see it.. do they do anything to stop it? Those Indian like decks at the NCC are next to useless as they are only for practice not play. An inside story is Peevers and Sutherland told the Aussie team after the debacle against South Africa at Bellerive, that performances like that were unacceptable. They told them they wanted victory - by any means possible. Both should've been sacked. Sutherland walked. Peevers is still there. These bastards are just bean counters who are sycophants to the corporate dollar. The development of the game is secondary to them. They are like officials in AFL and football. They worry about results in Australia, because they are under heavy scrutiny. This is because everybody sees the team perform in Australia. Overseas, only 30% of Aussies have pay TV, with 50% disinterested in cricket. I'd surmise 12 - 15 % see Australia play overseas outside England. Cricket Australia is also doing less and less for members. Many stalwart members from the Tas Cricket Assoc have relinquished memberships. Cricket Aus will not listen to members' concerns.
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City Sam
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+x+xAbsolute shambles of a team, only we could have a team 5/60 and a day later have more or less lost the test. We struggle in Asia. Most Aussies don't see it. Out of sight, out of mind. I am more annoyed because we don't pick our best team, plus our lack of killer instinct and proneness to major collapses is just so poor. Even in Asia we shouldn't go from a position of major strength to having lost the test 90 overs later.
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+x+x+xAbsolute shambles of a team, only we could have a team 5/60 and a day later have more or less lost the test. We struggle in Asia. Most Aussies don't see it. Out of sight, out of mind. I am more annoyed because we don't pick our best team, plus our lack of killer instinct and proneness to major collapses is just so poor. Even in Asia we shouldn't go from a position of major strength to having lost the test 90 overs later. With the notable exceptions of Renshaw and Maxwell, from players I've seen play in the Shield from all states, we have close to our best team in the UAE. I see every state team play in any season. I've also made friends with guys who know a lot about the game, like former Shield players. They identify technical weaknesses and strengths in players most of us can't see.
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Keyboard Warrior
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We aren’t having much luck.
They’ve had many close shaves.
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BaggyGreens
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+x+x+x+xAbsolute shambles of a team, only we could have a team 5/60 and a day later have more or less lost the test. We struggle in Asia. Most Aussies don't see it. Out of sight, out of mind. We see and we dont like it. CA see it.. do they do anything to stop it? Those Indian like decks at the NCC are next to useless as they are only for practice not play. An insides story is Peevers and Sutherland told the Aussie team after the debacle against South Africa at Bellerive, that performances like that were unacceptable. They told them they wanted victory - by any means possible. Both should've been sacked. Sutherland walked. Peevers is still there. These bastards are just been counters who are sycophants to the corporate dollar. The development of the game is secondary to them. They are like officials in AFL and football. They worry about results in Australia, because they are under heavy scrutiny. This is because everybody sees the team perform in Australia. Overseas, only 30% of Aussies have pay TV, with 50% disinterested in cricket. I'd surmise 12 - 15 % see Australia play overseas outside England. That was two years ago. We are still collapsing. They told them they wanted victory - by any means possible. Does that imply what I think it implies ?
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It is the batting that is killing us.
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+xOk. What do we need to restrict Paks to to still be a chance? Your opinions please
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+x+x+x+x+xAbsolute shambles of a team, only we could have a team 5/60 and a day later have more or less lost the test. We struggle in Asia. Most Aussies don't see it. Out of sight, out of mind. We see and we dont like it. CA see it.. do they do anything to stop it? Those Indian like decks at the NCC are next to useless as they are only for practice not play. An insides story is Peevers and Sutherland told the Aussie team after the debacle against South Africa at Bellerive, that performances like that were unacceptable. They told them they wanted victory - by any means possible. Both should've been sacked. Sutherland walked. Peevers is still there. These bastards are just been counters who are sycophants to the corporate dollar. The development of the game is secondary to them. They are like officials in AFL and football. They worry about results in Australia, because they are under heavy scrutiny. This is because everybody sees the team perform in Australia. Overseas, only 30% of Aussies have pay TV, with 50% disinterested in cricket. I'd surmise 12 - 15 % see Australia play overseas outside England. That was two years ago. We are still collapsing. They told them they wanted victory - by any means possible. Does that imply what I think it implies ?
Yes. They weren't worried about cheating, they were only concerned that they were caught!
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+x+x+x+xAbsolute shambles of a team, only we could have a team 5/60 and a day later have more or less lost the test. We struggle in Asia. Most Aussies don't see it. Out of sight, out of mind. I am more annoyed because we don't pick our best team, plus our lack of killer instinct and proneness to major collapses is just so poor. Even in Asia we shouldn't go from a position of major strength to having lost the test 90 overs later. With the notable exceptions of Renshaw and Maxwell, from players I've seen play in the Shield from all states, we have close to our best team in the UAE. I see every state team play in any season. I've also made friends with guys who know a lot about the game, like former Shield players. They identify technical weaknesses and strengths in players most of us can't see. When we have a batting lineup as weak as ours currently i'd have gone with a very different approach for this series. I'd have played Labu as our 2nd spinner instead of Holland and then bring in Maxwell and Renshaw. Just a much more well rounded team in these conditions
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+xIt is the batting that is killing us. No it is their bowling.. two in particular.. Abbas and Shah. They seem to hold a spell over most of our blokes. Khawaja, Head, Finch and Paine showed that our batting is strong if we are strong minded.
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+x+xOk. What do we need to restrict Paks to to still be a chance? Your opinions please Don't think we'd chase down 200
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+x+x+x+x+xAbsolute shambles of a team, only we could have a team 5/60 and a day later have more or less lost the test. We struggle in Asia. Most Aussies don't see it. Out of sight, out of mind. I am more annoyed because we don't pick our best team, plus our lack of killer instinct and proneness to major collapses is just so poor. Even in Asia we shouldn't go from a position of major strength to having lost the test 90 overs later. With the notable exceptions of Renshaw and Maxwell, from players I've seen play in the Shield from all states, we have close to our best team in the UAE. I see every state team play in any season. I've also made friends with guys who know a lot about the game, like former Shield players. They identify technical weaknesses and strengths in players most of us can't see. When we have a batting lineup as weak as ours currently i'd have gone with a very different approach for this series. I'd have played Labu as our 2nd spinner instead of Holland and then bring in Maxwell and Renshaw. Just a much more well rounded team in these conditions We had Renshaw. CA chose not to use him.
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+x+x+xOk. What do we need to restrict Paks to to still be a chance? Your opinions please Don't think we'd chase down 200 Crap they almost have that now.
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Brilliant Lyon over to Azhar!
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+x+x+x+x+x+xAbsolute shambles of a team, only we could have a team 5/60 and a day later have more or less lost the test. We struggle in Asia. Most Aussies don't see it. Out of sight, out of mind. I am more annoyed because we don't pick our best team, plus our lack of killer instinct and proneness to major collapses is just so poor. Even in Asia we shouldn't go from a position of major strength to having lost the test 90 overs later. With the notable exceptions of Renshaw and Maxwell, from players I've seen play in the Shield from all states, we have close to our best team in the UAE. I see every state team play in any season. I've also made friends with guys who know a lot about the game, like former Shield players. They identify technical weaknesses and strengths in players most of us can't see. When we have a batting lineup as weak as ours currently i'd have gone with a very different approach for this series. I'd have played Labu as our 2nd spinner instead of Holland and then bring in Maxwell and Renshaw. Just a much more well rounded team in these conditions We had Renshaw. CA chose not to use him. I know, which is why i am annoyed we don't pick our best team. Even after the debacle of the Marshes the first test they still are on the team, it makes no sense.
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+x+x+x+xOk. What do we need to restrict Paks to to still be a chance? Your opinions please Don't think we'd chase down 200 Crap they almost have that now. Get Siddle off Paine.
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Baggers, I meant our poor batting is killing us.
Our bowling is better.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAbsolute shambles of a team, only we could have a team 5/60 and a day later have more or less lost the test. We struggle in Asia. Most Aussies don't see it. Out of sight, out of mind. I am more annoyed because we don't pick our best team, plus our lack of killer instinct and proneness to major collapses is just so poor. Even in Asia we shouldn't go from a position of major strength to having lost the test 90 overs later. With the notable exceptions of Renshaw and Maxwell, from players I've seen play in the Shield from all states, we have close to our best team in the UAE. I see every state team play in any season. I've also made friends with guys who know a lot about the game, like former Shield players. They identify technical weaknesses and strengths in players most of us can't see. When we have a batting lineup as weak as ours currently i'd have gone with a very different approach for this series. I'd have played Labu as our 2nd spinner instead of Holland and then bring in Maxwell and Renshaw. Just a much more well rounded team in these conditions We had Renshaw. CA chose not to use him. I know, which is why i am annoyed we don't pick our best team. Even after the debacle of the Marshes the first test they still are on the team, it makes no sense. They remained on reputation Marsh sr for his previous Asian record and Marsh jr for some welcome form in Sth Africa. I would stick with Mitch not Shaun. His days are done.
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Labu has been a good part time bowler, but I’d prefer Maxwell as the number 6 all rounder.
For leg spin I’d prefer a specialist wrist spinner over Holland.
Are the Victorian Pakistani and Swepson regulars in the Shield though?
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+x+xIt is the batting that is killing us. No it is their bowling.. two in particular.. Abbas and Shah. They seem to hold a spell over most of our blokes. Khawaja, Head, Finch and Paine showed that our batting is strong if we are strong minded. Know what you meant KW. My reply above. Reckon Shah has been fair Abbas has been the magician. He is the one holding a spell over us. Like Philander did to us in 2016
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Looks like Paine prefers Labu to Holland as the second spinner!
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No replay, but Paine missed a very difficult stumping off Labu.
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+xLabu has been a good part time bowler, but I’d prefer Maxwell as the number 6 all rounder. For leg spin I’d prefer a specialist wrist spinner over Holland. Are the Victorian Pakistani and Swepson regulars in the Shield though? Swepson has gone way off the radar. You talking of Fawad Ahmed? CA seem reluctant to give him a Test. Why has Zampa not been given Tests.. He has performed well in the shorter formats. Has a good wrong'n and other variations. I think Labu will prove superior in all facets to Maxwell...maybe not fielding. So I would keep him.
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Paks are motoring 80 off under 20overs. Looking for a declaration this evening perhaps.
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The rub of the green is against us!
There are chances every over.
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+xPaks are motoring 80 off under 20overs. Looking for a declaration this evening perhaps. Finally paine brings on Labu. Hell a missed stumping or is that a touch harsh?
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+xThe rub of the green is against us!There are chances every over. Yep.. sure is.
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