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+xMarsh sr is scoring big in his shield match. Looks certain now to retain his place. It is frustrating. He has had years to do it at Test level and can't. Surely he can't improve at 35 years old?
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Ricky Pointing has placed his support behind Finch opening the batting. Why Ricky when Finch averages @18 opening in FC cricket? Seam expert Kumar says he thrives on opening the bowling against r/h batsmen. His record backs up this. He strikes at under 20 against r/hs compared to hi 30s against l/hs.
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"they hardly get any bowling because they are bowling all year round" This ambiguous statement was made by former national coach Darren Lehmann. He was trying to explain that Australia's bowlers played so much cricket across all formats that they never seem to be 100% fit to for Tests. Good point Boof. Time that our selectors chose only specialist bowlers for limited overs formats and kept our Test attack primarily for what they do best.
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Any chance this whole Finch thing is a smoke screen and he’s actuslly batting in the middle?
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+xRicky Pointing has placed his support behind Finch opening the batting. Why Ricky when Finch averages @18 opening in FC cricket? Seam expert Kumar says he thrives on opening the bowling against r/h batsmen. His record backs up this. He strikes at under 20 against r/hs compared to hi 30s against l/hs. Kumar is way to slow to bowl on roads... He needs something in the deck to exploit. Finch will pummel him on a road imo.
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+xAny chance this whole Finch thing is a smoke screen and he’s actuslly batting in the middle? Probably is. Who is your choice out of Handscomb or Harris?
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+xAny chance this whole Finch thing is a smoke screen and he’s actuslly batting in the middle? RedKat. wanna change my avatar.. can you help?
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+x+xRicky Pointing has placed his support behind Finch opening the batting. Why Ricky when Finch averages @18 opening in FC cricket? Seam expert Kumar says he thrives on opening the bowling against r/h batsmen. His record backs up this. He strikes at under 20 against r/hs compared to hi 30s against l/hs. Kumar is way to slow to bowl on roads... He needs something in the deck to exploit. Finch will pummel him on a road imo. Would not most of his bowling be on Asian roads?
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From the sounds of it Harris is definitely in and that last spot is Head vs Handscomb. For me, id be going Handscomb. One less leftie in the order for Ashwin and Handscomb is more experienced and has made lots of runs in Australia. Unlucky for Head who went reasonable in his two tests. That said I think theyll go with Head. What Id go with with the current squad Harris Khawaja S. Marsh Handscomb Finch M.Marsh Paine Cummins Starc Lyon Hazlewood What Im pretty sure will be selected Harris Finch Khawaja S. Marsh Head M.Marsh Paine Cummins Starc Lyon Hazlewood
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+xFrom the sounds of it Harris is definitely in and that last spot is Head vs Handscomb. For me, id be going Handscomb. One less leftie in the order for Ashwin and Handscomb is more experienced and has made lots of runs in Australia. Unlucky for Head who went reasonable in his two tests. That said I think theyll go with Head. What Id go with with the current squad Harris Khawaja S. Marsh Handscomb Finch M.Marsh Paine Cummins Starc Lyon Hazlewood What Im pretty sure will be selected Harris Finch Khawaja S. Marsh Head M.Marsh Paine Cummins Starc Lyon Hazlewood I heard Head was locked in. So out of Harris and Handscomb. Has there been a change of mind by selectors? I dont want Finch opening whatever happens. I certainly dont want our first three being lefties either. The Indian bowlers.. specially Kumar are very accurate and they can build pressure if their line does not have to sway. I guess it all depends on the Adelaide deck. Will it be a road or have some grass?
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+x+x+xRicky Pointing has placed his support behind Finch opening the batting. Why Ricky when Finch averages @18 opening in FC cricket? Seam expert Kumar says he thrives on opening the bowling against r/h batsmen. His record backs up this. He strikes at under 20 against r/hs compared to hi 30s against l/hs. Kumar is way to slow to bowl on roads... He needs something in the deck to exploit. Finch will pummel him on a road imo. Would not most of his bowling be on Asian roads? No. He has only played 11 of 21 tests in Asia, and bowled far more overs outside of Asia than inside Asia. :P Also India roads up far far less often than Australia does. When they leave something in the pitch for the seamers - often like when Sri Lanka or Bangladesh tours, Kumar and Shami often used to get a call up. India tricked NZC doing this in 2016 in the 2nd test. NZ played a long tail to accommodate spinners when it was the seamers on both sides wrecking havoc until the last day. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/10716/scorecard/1030215/india-vs-new-zealand-2nd-test-nz-tour-of-india-2016-17The Indian curators have mastered pitch creation... they can create anything they want over there, including bouncy pitches... The last pitch Bangladesh got in India looked it had been extracted from the GABBA. If there is no lateral movement in it for the seamers in India, U Yadav typically plays. Bumrah is now a spanner in the works of the combos cos he seems to be a complete conditions bowler. Also Kumar is bowling much slower now than he used to. Kumar is like their Safrica and England specialist for seam and swing pitches (that are not roads). And they and the fans missed him in England this year to see where he is at with swing as against Jimmy. Kumar knows how to get lateral movement. He isn't some tall guy just banging it in the road day at 145km/h. He is more subtle and looks to exploit swing and seam. He plays a lot of odi and t20 for India because he has a good yorker and slower ball variations. Kumar will be eaten alive on Aussie roads imo. He is very skilled. But not fast. I do not think he is fast enough for Aussie roads where there is no lateral movement to extract. It will be like watching Boult, Anderson or Philander struggling. Aus roads need pacier men with height to get the trajectory for bounce. Even Shami I fear may be too skiddy for Australia. I'd still give him a try at some stage, but he is a swing bowler also. The Indian attack hinges around what seamers with inswingers Bumrah, ISharma with bounce bowler Yadav can do to Finch, Khawaja, and SMarsh - and then try and get the middle order to collapse. Still - with the current Aus batting line-up - anything is possible... Also I read you criticized Finch's playing of spin, tbh - Finch despite concrete feet, is very adept at slapping the spinners through the on side at will. Not much sweeping, not much foot movement, but he gets a lot of easy singles and twos and can find the boundary when he wants. Finch has a lot of IPL runs batting in the middle order against the spinners. He is more than useful against top quality spin bowling. It doesn't always look great, but is effective.
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+x+x+x+xRicky Pointing has placed his support behind Finch opening the batting. Why Ricky when Finch averages @18 opening in FC cricket? Seam expert Kumar says he thrives on opening the bowling against r/h batsmen. His record backs up this. He strikes at under 20 against r/hs compared to hi 30s against l/hs. Kumar is way to slow to bowl on roads... He needs something in the deck to exploit. Finch will pummel him on a road imo. Would not most of his bowling be on Asian roads? No. He has only played 11 of 21 tests in Asia, and bowled far more overs outside of Asia than inside Asia. :P Also India roads up far far less often than Australia does. When they leave something in the pitch for the seamers - often like when Sri Lanka or Bangladesh tours, Kumar and Shami often used to get a call up. India tricked NZC doing this in 2016 in the 2nd test. NZ played a long tail to accommodate spinners when it was the seamers on both sides wrecking havoc until the last day. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/10716/scorecard/1030215/india-vs-new-zealand-2nd-test-nz-tour-of-india-2016-17The Indian curators have mastered pitch creation... they can create anything they want over there, including bouncy pitches... The last pitch Bangladesh got in India looked it had been extracted from the GABBA. If there is no lateral movement in it for the seamers in India, U Yadav typically plays. Bumrah is now a spanner in the works of the combos cos he seems to be a complete conditions bowler. Also Kumar is bowling much slower now than he used to. Kumar is like their Safrica and England specialist for seam and swing pitches (that are not roads). And they and the fans missed him in England this year to see where he is at with swing as against Jimmy. Kumar knows how to get lateral movement. He isn't some tall guy just banging it in the road day at 145km/h. He is more subtle and looks to exploit swing and seam. He plays a lot of odi and t20 for India because he has a good yorker and slower ball variations. Kumar will be eaten alive on Aussie roads imo. He is very skilled. But not fast. I do not think he is fast enough for Aussie roads where there is no lateral movement to extract. It will be like watching Boult, Anderson or Philander struggling. Aus roads need pacier men with height to get the trajectory for bounce. Even Shami I fear may be too skiddy for Australia. I'd still give him a try at some stage, but he is a swing bowler also. The Indian attack hinges around what seamers with inswingers Bumrah, ISharma with bounce bowler Yadav can do to Finch, Khawaja, and SMarsh - and then try and get the middle order to collapse. Still - with the current Aus batting line-up - anything is possible... Also I read you criticized Finch's playing of spin, tbh - Finch despite concrete feet, is very adept at slapping the spinners through the on side at will. Not much sweeping, not much foot movement, but he gets a lot of easy singles and twos and can find the boundary when he wants. Finch has a lot of IPL runs batting in the middle order against the spinners. He is more than useful against top quality spin bowling. It doesn't always look great, but is effective. A touch harsh perhaps on Finchy. He survived batting time against spin in the UAE. Never seen him in IPL but I saw him in these T20s and he looked all at sea. But as you say looks can be deceptive..
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The idea you have to be fast on Aussie decks is misguided. Philander had an average of 23 here in 2016 and he bowled better than his figures suggested. If youre good enough to get the ball moving like Philander is pace doesnt matter. Also have to look at Sayers domestic record to know pace is overrated. Bhuvi is a class swing bowler and I think he will do well on these surfaces. Australia's definitely up against it this series and Ill be interested to know what we go for pitches. On one had bowling is our strength and preparing green bouncy decks would aid our attack but India are a lot better than they used to be and if they still post a big first innings score it will be a big battle when they have much better fast bowlers than past years. May end up seeing some very flat decks this summer-even more so than usual. Im always one for having something in the bowlers so Id love to see some green
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+x+x+x+x+xRicky Pointing has placed his support behind Finch opening the batting. Why Ricky when Finch averages @18 opening in FC cricket? Seam expert Kumar says he thrives on opening the bowling against r/h batsmen. His record backs up this. He strikes at under 20 against r/hs compared to hi 30s against l/hs. Kumar is way to slow to bowl on roads... He needs something in the deck to exploit. Finch will pummel him on a road imo. Would not most of his bowling be on Asian roads? No. He has only played 11 of 21 tests in Asia, and bowled far more overs outside of Asia than inside Asia. :P Also India roads up far far less often than Australia does. When they leave something in the pitch for the seamers - often like when Sri Lanka or Bangladesh tours, Kumar and Shami often used to get a call up. India tricked NZC doing this in 2016 in the 2nd test. NZ played a long tail to accommodate spinners when it was the seamers on both sides wrecking havoc until the last day. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/10716/scorecard/1030215/india-vs-new-zealand-2nd-test-nz-tour-of-india-2016-17The Indian curators have mastered pitch creation... they can create anything they want over there, including bouncy pitches... The last pitch Bangladesh got in India looked it had been extracted from the GABBA. If there is no lateral movement in it for the seamers in India, U Yadav typically plays. Bumrah is now a spanner in the works of the combos cos he seems to be a complete conditions bowler. Also Kumar is bowling much slower now than he used to. Kumar is like their Safrica and England specialist for seam and swing pitches (that are not roads). And they and the fans missed him in England this year to see where he is at with swing as against Jimmy. Kumar knows how to get lateral movement. He isn't some tall guy just banging it in the road day at 145km/h. He is more subtle and looks to exploit swing and seam. He plays a lot of odi and t20 for India because he has a good yorker and slower ball variations. Kumar will be eaten alive on Aussie roads imo. He is very skilled. But not fast. I do not think he is fast enough for Aussie roads where there is no lateral movement to extract. It will be like watching Boult, Anderson or Philander struggling. Aus roads need pacier men with height to get the trajectory for bounce. Even Shami I fear may be too skiddy for Australia. I'd still give him a try at some stage, but he is a swing bowler also. The Indian attack hinges around what seamers with inswingers Bumrah, ISharma with bounce bowler Yadav can do to Finch, Khawaja, and SMarsh - and then try and get the middle order to collapse. Still - with the current Aus batting line-up - anything is possible... Also I read you criticized Finch's playing of spin, tbh - Finch despite concrete feet, is very adept at slapping the spinners through the on side at will. Not much sweeping, not much foot movement, but he gets a lot of easy singles and twos and can find the boundary when he wants. Finch has a lot of IPL runs batting in the middle order against the spinners. He is more than useful against top quality spin bowling. It doesn't always look great, but is effective. A touch harsh perhaps on Finchy. He survived batting time against spin in the UAE. Never seen him in IPL but I saw him in these T20s and he looked all at sea. But as you say looks can be deceptive.. Finch's nemesis is outswing/outseam starting on off stump, and in/swing, in/seam starting on 4th stump (offside). That is when his concrete fail him. He makes no attempt to get his pad out of line for the inball - and does not follow the outball (same foot movement would achieve both). On the flat, and against the spinners, he is better than people think. He actually picks it from the hand and plays for the spin. He hasn't scored all his odi and t20i runs by being a total muppet like many Aussie fans suggest he is. His concrete feet make him look worse than he is. Him playing spinners is rather funny, and yes - looks are deceptive. He looks ungainly - but he makes contact cos he picks the delivery type and scores runs. When he loses his eye, he's stuffed as he has no technique. But - he has not lost his eye yet... And you really should watch some IPL, England games, India games, SA games, just to see what the world is upto besides Australia and how people play in foreign conditions... It really is enjoyable to follow and watch... I followed the BBL before IPL - but for the past 4 or 5 years, the BBL drop off has been huge to the point the last few years I have not followed it much at all... The IPL however, isn't bad at all. My major criticism of the IPL is the low standard of fielding. Sure - the imports like Boult take rippers, but for the Indian domestic players - a much lower standard. Like its Benny Hill-esque at times. But the bowling and batting - not too shabby at all.. The 4 imports per team really helps on the death bowling beyond Kumar and Bumrah. Mustafizur, Bravo, Malinga, Starc formerly, and many more. And of course the batting of ABdV and Jos Buttler et al is always a treat, then Warner and KW, let alone the Indian batsmen. David Warner is a force in the IPL. He just controls chases so well. Smith much much much less so. Smith lets the run rate get out of all control and stuffs things up. This said, Warner's team has had the luxury of intl stars like Kumar (ind), R Khan (Afg), Mustafizur (Bng), M Nabi (Afg), Shakib Al Hasan (Bng), S Kaul (ind), C Jordan (eng)and more like even Braitwaite (WI), Boult (NZ) and Stanlake (Aus) in recent years - so chasing may look easier for a reason... But you may not recognize all these names... But I will tell you one thing, Tom Moody is an amazing coach... I rate Tom the best coach in world cricket right now... And Bayliss isn't going along too badly and permitted Frabraze to continue with the extreme England ODI style... Mickey Arthur has shown with Pakistan that perhaps Aussies were too swift to dismiss him - because Pak is on the up and up... And Hesson has already proved his credentials over and over...
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+x+x+x+x+x+xRicky Pointing has placed his support behind Finch opening the batting. Why Ricky when Finch averages @18 opening in FC cricket? Seam expert Kumar says he thrives on opening the bowling against r/h batsmen. His record backs up this. He strikes at under 20 against r/hs compared to hi 30s against l/hs. Kumar is way to slow to bowl on roads... He needs something in the deck to exploit. Finch will pummel him on a road imo. Would not most of his bowling be on Asian roads? No. He has only played 11 of 21 tests in Asia, and bowled far more overs outside of Asia than inside Asia. :P Also India roads up far far less often than Australia does. When they leave something in the pitch for the seamers - often like when Sri Lanka or Bangladesh tours, Kumar and Shami often used to get a call up. India tricked NZC doing this in 2016 in the 2nd test. NZ played a long tail to accommodate spinners when it was the seamers on both sides wrecking havoc until the last day. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/10716/scorecard/1030215/india-vs-new-zealand-2nd-test-nz-tour-of-india-2016-17The Indian curators have mastered pitch creation... they can create anything they want over there, including bouncy pitches... The last pitch Bangladesh got in India looked it had been extracted from the GABBA. If there is no lateral movement in it for the seamers in India, U Yadav typically plays. Bumrah is now a spanner in the works of the combos cos he seems to be a complete conditions bowler. Also Kumar is bowling much slower now than he used to. Kumar is like their Safrica and England specialist for seam and swing pitches (that are not roads). And they and the fans missed him in England this year to see where he is at with swing as against Jimmy. Kumar knows how to get lateral movement. He isn't some tall guy just banging it in the road day at 145km/h. He is more subtle and looks to exploit swing and seam. He plays a lot of odi and t20 for India because he has a good yorker and slower ball variations. Kumar will be eaten alive on Aussie roads imo. He is very skilled. But not fast. I do not think he is fast enough for Aussie roads where there is no lateral movement to extract. It will be like watching Boult, Anderson or Philander struggling. Aus roads need pacier men with height to get the trajectory for bounce. Even Shami I fear may be too skiddy for Australia. I'd still give him a try at some stage, but he is a swing bowler also. The Indian attack hinges around what seamers with inswingers Bumrah, ISharma with bounce bowler Yadav can do to Finch, Khawaja, and SMarsh - and then try and get the middle order to collapse. Still - with the current Aus batting line-up - anything is possible... Also I read you criticized Finch's playing of spin, tbh - Finch despite concrete feet, is very adept at slapping the spinners through the on side at will. Not much sweeping, not much foot movement, but he gets a lot of easy singles and twos and can find the boundary when he wants. Finch has a lot of IPL runs batting in the middle order against the spinners. He is more than useful against top quality spin bowling. It doesn't always look great, but is effective. A touch harsh perhaps on Finchy. He survived batting time against spin in the UAE. Never seen him in IPL but I saw him in these T20s and he looked all at sea. But as you say looks can be deceptive.. Finch's nemesis is outswing/outseam starting on off stump, and in/swing, in/seam starting on 4th stump (offside). That is when his concrete fail him. He makes no attempt to get his pad out of line for the inball - and does not follow the outball (same foot movement would achieve both). On the flat, and against the spinners, he is better than people think. He actually picks it from the hand and plays for the spin. He hasn't scored all his odi and t20i runs by being a total muppet like many Aussie fans suggest he is. His concrete feet make him look worse than he is. Him playing spinners is rather funny, and yes - looks are deceptive. He looks ungainly - but he makes contact cos he picks the delivery type and scores runs. When he loses his eye, he's stuffed as he has no technique. But - he has not lost his eye yet... And you really should watch some IPL, England games, India games, SA games, just to see what the world is upto besides Australia and how people play in foreign conditions... It really is enjoyable to follow and watch... I followed the BBL before IPL - but for the past 4 or 5 years, the BBL drop off has been huge to the point the last few years I have not followed it much at all... The IPL however, isn't bad at all. My major criticism of the IPL is the low standard of fielding. Sure - the imports like Boult take rippers, but for the Indian domestic players - a much lower standard. Like its Benny Hill-esque at times. But the bowling and batting - not too shabby at all.. The 4 imports per team really helps on the death bowling beyond Kumar and Bumrah. Mustafizur, Bravo, Malinga, Starc formerly, and many more. And of course the batting of ABdV and Jos Buttler et al is always a treat, then Warner and KW, let alone the Indian batsmen. David Warner is a force in the IPL. He just controls chases so well. Smith much much much less so. Smith lets the run rate get out of all control and stuffs things up. This said, Warner's team has had the luxury of intl stars like Kumar (ind), R Khan (Afg), Mustafizur (Bng), M Nabi (Afg), Shakib Al Hasan (Bng), S Kaul (ind), C Jordan (eng)and more like even Braitwaite (WI), Boult (NZ) and Stanlake (Aus) in recent years - so chasing may look easier for a reason... But you may not recognize all these names... But I will tell you one thing, Tom Moody is an amazing coach... I rate Tom the best coach in world cricket right now... And Bayliss isn't going along too badly and permitted Frabraze to continue with the extreme England ODI style... Mickey Arthur has shown with Pakistan that perhaps Aussies were too swift to dismiss him - because Pak is on the up and up... And Hesson has already proved his credentials over and over... I do watch other nations play Test cricket. I have been watching some of the England v Sri Lanka game. Also how your Black Caps are going in the UAE. IPL does not interest me. I have even lost interest in BBL.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xRicky Pointing has placed his support behind Finch opening the batting. Why Ricky when Finch averages @18 opening in FC cricket? Seam expert Kumar says he thrives on opening the bowling against r/h batsmen. His record backs up this. He strikes at under 20 against r/hs compared to hi 30s against l/hs. Kumar is way to slow to bowl on roads... He needs something in the deck to exploit. Finch will pummel him on a road imo. Would not most of his bowling be on Asian roads? No. He has only played 11 of 21 tests in Asia, and bowled far more overs outside of Asia than inside Asia. :P Also India roads up far far less often than Australia does. When they leave something in the pitch for the seamers - often like when Sri Lanka or Bangladesh tours, Kumar and Shami often used to get a call up. India tricked NZC doing this in 2016 in the 2nd test. NZ played a long tail to accommodate spinners when it was the seamers on both sides wrecking havoc until the last day. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/10716/scorecard/1030215/india-vs-new-zealand-2nd-test-nz-tour-of-india-2016-17The Indian curators have mastered pitch creation... they can create anything they want over there, including bouncy pitches... The last pitch Bangladesh got in India looked it had been extracted from the GABBA. If there is no lateral movement in it for the seamers in India, U Yadav typically plays. Bumrah is now a spanner in the works of the combos cos he seems to be a complete conditions bowler. Also Kumar is bowling much slower now than he used to. Kumar is like their Safrica and England specialist for seam and swing pitches (that are not roads). And they and the fans missed him in England this year to see where he is at with swing as against Jimmy. Kumar knows how to get lateral movement. He isn't some tall guy just banging it in the road day at 145km/h. He is more subtle and looks to exploit swing and seam. He plays a lot of odi and t20 for India because he has a good yorker and slower ball variations. Kumar will be eaten alive on Aussie roads imo. He is very skilled. But not fast. I do not think he is fast enough for Aussie roads where there is no lateral movement to extract. It will be like watching Boult, Anderson or Philander struggling. Aus roads need pacier men with height to get the trajectory for bounce. Even Shami I fear may be too skiddy for Australia. I'd still give him a try at some stage, but he is a swing bowler also. The Indian attack hinges around what seamers with inswingers Bumrah, ISharma with bounce bowler Yadav can do to Finch, Khawaja, and SMarsh - and then try and get the middle order to collapse. Still - with the current Aus batting line-up - anything is possible... Also I read you criticized Finch's playing of spin, tbh - Finch despite concrete feet, is very adept at slapping the spinners through the on side at will. Not much sweeping, not much foot movement, but he gets a lot of easy singles and twos and can find the boundary when he wants. Finch has a lot of IPL runs batting in the middle order against the spinners. He is more than useful against top quality spin bowling. It doesn't always look great, but is effective. A touch harsh perhaps on Finchy. He survived batting time against spin in the UAE. Never seen him in IPL but I saw him in these T20s and he looked all at sea. But as you say looks can be deceptive.. Finch's nemesis is outswing/outseam starting on off stump, and in/swing, in/seam starting on 4th stump (offside). That is when his concrete fail him. He makes no attempt to get his pad out of line for the inball - and does not follow the outball (same foot movement would achieve both). On the flat, and against the spinners, he is better than people think. He actually picks it from the hand and plays for the spin. He hasn't scored all his odi and t20i runs by being a total muppet like many Aussie fans suggest he is. His concrete feet make him look worse than he is. Him playing spinners is rather funny, and yes - looks are deceptive. He looks ungainly - but he makes contact cos he picks the delivery type and scores runs. When he loses his eye, he's stuffed as he has no technique. But - he has not lost his eye yet... And you really should watch some IPL, England games, India games, SA games, just to see what the world is upto besides Australia and how people play in foreign conditions... It really is enjoyable to follow and watch... I followed the BBL before IPL - but for the past 4 or 5 years, the BBL drop off has been huge to the point the last few years I have not followed it much at all... The IPL however, isn't bad at all. My major criticism of the IPL is the low standard of fielding. Sure - the imports like Boult take rippers, but for the Indian domestic players - a much lower standard. Like its Benny Hill-esque at times. But the bowling and batting - not too shabby at all.. The 4 imports per team really helps on the death bowling beyond Kumar and Bumrah. Mustafizur, Bravo, Malinga, Starc formerly, and many more. And of course the batting of ABdV and Jos Buttler et al is always a treat, then Warner and KW, let alone the Indian batsmen. David Warner is a force in the IPL. He just controls chases so well. Smith much much much less so. Smith lets the run rate get out of all control and stuffs things up. This said, Warner's team has had the luxury of intl stars like Kumar (ind), R Khan (Afg), Mustafizur (Bng), M Nabi (Afg), Shakib Al Hasan (Bng), S Kaul (ind), C Jordan (eng)and more like even Braitwaite (WI), Boult (NZ) and Stanlake (Aus) in recent years - so chasing may look easier for a reason... But you may not recognize all these names... But I will tell you one thing, Tom Moody is an amazing coach... I rate Tom the best coach in world cricket right now... And Bayliss isn't going along too badly and permitted Frabraze to continue with the extreme England ODI style... Mickey Arthur has shown with Pakistan that perhaps Aussies were too swift to dismiss him - because Pak is on the up and up... And Hesson has already proved his credentials over and over... I do watch other nations play Test cricket. I have been watching some of the England v Sri Lanka game. Also how your Black Caps are going in the UAE. IPL or even BBL does not really interest me as much as it used to. Finch's nemesis is outswing/outseam starting on off stump, and in/swing, in/seam starting on 4th stump (offside). Then if India has done its homework they will soon work out Finch's weakness
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xRicky Pointing has placed his support behind Finch opening the batting. Why Ricky when Finch averages @18 opening in FC cricket? Seam expert Kumar says he thrives on opening the bowling against r/h batsmen. His record backs up this. He strikes at under 20 against r/hs compared to hi 30s against l/hs. Kumar is way to slow to bowl on roads... He needs something in the deck to exploit. Finch will pummel him on a road imo. Would not most of his bowling be on Asian roads? No. He has only played 11 of 21 tests in Asia, and bowled far more overs outside of Asia than inside Asia. :P Also India roads up far far less often than Australia does. When they leave something in the pitch for the seamers - often like when Sri Lanka or Bangladesh tours, Kumar and Shami often used to get a call up. India tricked NZC doing this in 2016 in the 2nd test. NZ played a long tail to accommodate spinners when it was the seamers on both sides wrecking havoc until the last day. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/10716/scorecard/1030215/india-vs-new-zealand-2nd-test-nz-tour-of-india-2016-17The Indian curators have mastered pitch creation... they can create anything they want over there, including bouncy pitches... The last pitch Bangladesh got in India looked it had been extracted from the GABBA. If there is no lateral movement in it for the seamers in India, U Yadav typically plays. Bumrah is now a spanner in the works of the combos cos he seems to be a complete conditions bowler. Also Kumar is bowling much slower now than he used to. Kumar is like their Safrica and England specialist for seam and swing pitches (that are not roads). And they and the fans missed him in England this year to see where he is at with swing as against Jimmy. Kumar knows how to get lateral movement. He isn't some tall guy just banging it in the road day at 145km/h. He is more subtle and looks to exploit swing and seam. He plays a lot of odi and t20 for India because he has a good yorker and slower ball variations. Kumar will be eaten alive on Aussie roads imo. He is very skilled. But not fast. I do not think he is fast enough for Aussie roads where there is no lateral movement to extract. It will be like watching Boult, Anderson or Philander struggling. Aus roads need pacier men with height to get the trajectory for bounce. Even Shami I fear may be too skiddy for Australia. I'd still give him a try at some stage, but he is a swing bowler also. The Indian attack hinges around what seamers with inswingers Bumrah, ISharma with bounce bowler Yadav can do to Finch, Khawaja, and SMarsh - and then try and get the middle order to collapse. Still - with the current Aus batting line-up - anything is possible... Also I read you criticized Finch's playing of spin, tbh - Finch despite concrete feet, is very adept at slapping the spinners through the on side at will. Not much sweeping, not much foot movement, but he gets a lot of easy singles and twos and can find the boundary when he wants. Finch has a lot of IPL runs batting in the middle order against the spinners. He is more than useful against top quality spin bowling. It doesn't always look great, but is effective. A touch harsh perhaps on Finchy. He survived batting time against spin in the UAE. Never seen him in IPL but I saw him in these T20s and he looked all at sea. But as you say looks can be deceptive.. Finch's nemesis is outswing/outseam starting on off stump, and in/swing, in/seam starting on 4th stump (offside). That is when his concrete fail him. He makes no attempt to get his pad out of line for the inball - and does not follow the outball (same foot movement would achieve both). On the flat, and against the spinners, he is better than people think. He actually picks it from the hand and plays for the spin. He hasn't scored all his odi and t20i runs by being a total muppet like many Aussie fans suggest he is. His concrete feet make him look worse than he is. Him playing spinners is rather funny, and yes - looks are deceptive. He looks ungainly - but he makes contact cos he picks the delivery type and scores runs. When he loses his eye, he's stuffed as he has no technique. But - he has not lost his eye yet... And you really should watch some IPL, England games, India games, SA games, just to see what the world is upto besides Australia and how people play in foreign conditions... It really is enjoyable to follow and watch... I followed the BBL before IPL - but for the past 4 or 5 years, the BBL drop off has been huge to the point the last few years I have not followed it much at all... The IPL however, isn't bad at all. My major criticism of the IPL is the low standard of fielding. Sure - the imports like Boult take rippers, but for the Indian domestic players - a much lower standard. Like its Benny Hill-esque at times. But the bowling and batting - not too shabby at all.. The 4 imports per team really helps on the death bowling beyond Kumar and Bumrah. Mustafizur, Bravo, Malinga, Starc formerly, and many more. And of course the batting of ABdV and Jos Buttler et al is always a treat, then Warner and KW, let alone the Indian batsmen. David Warner is a force in the IPL. He just controls chases so well. Smith much much much less so. Smith lets the run rate get out of all control and stuffs things up. This said, Warner's team has had the luxury of intl stars like Kumar (ind), R Khan (Afg), Mustafizur (Bng), M Nabi (Afg), Shakib Al Hasan (Bng), S Kaul (ind), C Jordan (eng)and more like even Braitwaite (WI), Boult (NZ) and Stanlake (Aus) in recent years - so chasing may look easier for a reason... But you may not recognize all these names... But I will tell you one thing, Tom Moody is an amazing coach... I rate Tom the best coach in world cricket right now... And Bayliss isn't going along too badly and permitted Frabraze to continue with the extreme England ODI style... Mickey Arthur has shown with Pakistan that perhaps Aussies were too swift to dismiss him - because Pak is on the up and up... And Hesson has already proved his credentials over and over... I do watch other nations play Test cricket. I have been watching some of the England v Sri Lanka game. Also how your Black Caps are going in the UAE. IPL or even BBL does not really interest me as much as it used to. Finch's nemesis is outswing/outseam starting on off stump, and in/swing, in/seam starting on 4th stump (offside). Then if India has done its homework they will soon work out Finch's weakness No point in Australia. If Boult and Anderson are unable to swing it, and if Philander gets no seam, its just pointless to even try imo. Just have Yadav hurl down some bouncy stuff - crap gets wickets and all. Aus these days is all about getting some 6'6" knuckledragger hurling down 150 km/h if there's no grass on the pitch. Forget swing. seam or spin these days. It is a road. Lyon has to bowl overspin there and use bounce to get wickets, not even side spin... Aus test cricket pitches is the king of highways in the past 6-8 years or so outside Hobart and a night session at Adelaide. Gets worse all the time too... Still Kohli loved it last time... KW feasted the year after with Taylor. Faf the year after that. It is a batsman's paradise and lanky fast bowler's paradise. It's crap for everyone else tbf. It's like CA curators saw SL over 10 years ago and said - "raise ya"... Even the mainstream Aus fan purports to complain about it and the drop-in factor - but I am not sure they have seen real swing and seam in years to see and remember how exactly its bowled...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xRicky Pointing has placed his support behind Finch opening the batting. Why Ricky when Finch averages @18 opening in FC cricket? Seam expert Kumar says he thrives on opening the bowling against r/h batsmen. His record backs up this. He strikes at under 20 against r/hs compared to hi 30s against l/hs. Kumar is way to slow to bowl on roads... He needs something in the deck to exploit. Finch will pummel him on a road imo. Would not most of his bowling be on Asian roads? No. He has only played 11 of 21 tests in Asia, and bowled far more overs outside of Asia than inside Asia. :P Also India roads up far far less often than Australia does. When they leave something in the pitch for the seamers - often like when Sri Lanka or Bangladesh tours, Kumar and Shami often used to get a call up. India tricked NZC doing this in 2016 in the 2nd test. NZ played a long tail to accommodate spinners when it was the seamers on both sides wrecking havoc until the last day. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/10716/scorecard/1030215/india-vs-new-zealand-2nd-test-nz-tour-of-india-2016-17The Indian curators have mastered pitch creation... they can create anything they want over there, including bouncy pitches... The last pitch Bangladesh got in India looked it had been extracted from the GABBA. If there is no lateral movement in it for the seamers in India, U Yadav typically plays. Bumrah is now a spanner in the works of the combos cos he seems to be a complete conditions bowler. Also Kumar is bowling much slower now than he used to. Kumar is like their Safrica and England specialist for seam and swing pitches (that are not roads). And they and the fans missed him in England this year to see where he is at with swing as against Jimmy. Kumar knows how to get lateral movement. He isn't some tall guy just banging it in the road day at 145km/h. He is more subtle and looks to exploit swing and seam. He plays a lot of odi and t20 for India because he has a good yorker and slower ball variations. Kumar will be eaten alive on Aussie roads imo. He is very skilled. But not fast. I do not think he is fast enough for Aussie roads where there is no lateral movement to extract. It will be like watching Boult, Anderson or Philander struggling. Aus roads need pacier men with height to get the trajectory for bounce. Even Shami I fear may be too skiddy for Australia. I'd still give him a try at some stage, but he is a swing bowler also. The Indian attack hinges around what seamers with inswingers Bumrah, ISharma with bounce bowler Yadav can do to Finch, Khawaja, and SMarsh - and then try and get the middle order to collapse. Still - with the current Aus batting line-up - anything is possible... Also I read you criticized Finch's playing of spin, tbh - Finch despite concrete feet, is very adept at slapping the spinners through the on side at will. Not much sweeping, not much foot movement, but he gets a lot of easy singles and twos and can find the boundary when he wants. Finch has a lot of IPL runs batting in the middle order against the spinners. He is more than useful against top quality spin bowling. It doesn't always look great, but is effective. A touch harsh perhaps on Finchy. He survived batting time against spin in the UAE. Never seen him in IPL but I saw him in these T20s and he looked all at sea. But as you say looks can be deceptive.. Finch's nemesis is outswing/outseam starting on off stump, and in/swing, in/seam starting on 4th stump (offside). That is when his concrete fail him. He makes no attempt to get his pad out of line for the inball - and does not follow the outball (same foot movement would achieve both). On the flat, and against the spinners, he is better than people think. He actually picks it from the hand and plays for the spin. He hasn't scored all his odi and t20i runs by being a total muppet like many Aussie fans suggest he is. His concrete feet make him look worse than he is. Him playing spinners is rather funny, and yes - looks are deceptive. He looks ungainly - but he makes contact cos he picks the delivery type and scores runs. When he loses his eye, he's stuffed as he has no technique. But - he has not lost his eye yet... And you really should watch some IPL, England games, India games, SA games, just to see what the world is upto besides Australia and how people play in foreign conditions... It really is enjoyable to follow and watch... I followed the BBL before IPL - but for the past 4 or 5 years, the BBL drop off has been huge to the point the last few years I have not followed it much at all... The IPL however, isn't bad at all. My major criticism of the IPL is the low standard of fielding. Sure - the imports like Boult take rippers, but for the Indian domestic players - a much lower standard. Like its Benny Hill-esque at times. But the bowling and batting - not too shabby at all.. The 4 imports per team really helps on the death bowling beyond Kumar and Bumrah. Mustafizur, Bravo, Malinga, Starc formerly, and many more. And of course the batting of ABdV and Jos Buttler et al is always a treat, then Warner and KW, let alone the Indian batsmen. David Warner is a force in the IPL. He just controls chases so well. Smith much much much less so. Smith lets the run rate get out of all control and stuffs things up. This said, Warner's team has had the luxury of intl stars like Kumar (ind), R Khan (Afg), Mustafizur (Bng), M Nabi (Afg), Shakib Al Hasan (Bng), S Kaul (ind), C Jordan (eng)and more like even Braitwaite (WI), Boult (NZ) and Stanlake (Aus) in recent years - so chasing may look easier for a reason... But you may not recognize all these names... But I will tell you one thing, Tom Moody is an amazing coach... I rate Tom the best coach in world cricket right now... And Bayliss isn't going along too badly and permitted Frabraze to continue with the extreme England ODI style... Mickey Arthur has shown with Pakistan that perhaps Aussies were too swift to dismiss him - because Pak is on the up and up... And Hesson has already proved his credentials over and over... I do watch other nations play Test cricket. I have been watching some of the England v Sri Lanka game. Also how your Black Caps are going in the UAE. IPL or even BBL does not really interest me as much as it used to. Finch's nemesis is outswing/outseam starting on off stump, and in/swing, in/seam starting on 4th stump (offside). Then if India has done its homework they will soon work out Finch's weakness No point in Australia. If Boult and Anderson are unable to swing it, and if Philander gets no seam, its just pointless to try. Aus is all about getting some 6'6" knuckledragger hurling down 150 km/h if there's no grass on the pitch. Forget swing. seam or spin these days. It is a road. Aus test cricket pitches is the king of highways in the past 6-8 years or so. Gets worse all the time too... Still Kohli loved it last time... KW feasted the year after with Taylor. Faf the year after that. It is a batsman's paradise and lanky fast bowler's paradise. It's crap for everyone else tbf. There is no sure and fast rule that says CA has to serve up roads for touring sides. Australia does have curators that can produce a deck to aid the bowler. Just take a look at the tracks being used for the Shield. Grassy providing plenty of seam and swing. The ICC should impel Test tour hosts to produce a track that provides a fair contest between bat and ball. Sadly,the ICC and its deputy. CA are both as weak as each other..kow towing to the one entity holding the purse strings..the BCCI. Disgusts me the way the put the mitey dollar ahead of the people that keep cricket at the forefront .. the fans.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xRicky Pointing has placed his support behind Finch opening the batting. Why Ricky when Finch averages @18 opening in FC cricket? Seam expert Kumar says he thrives on opening the bowling against r/h batsmen. His record backs up this. He strikes at under 20 against r/hs compared to hi 30s against l/hs. Kumar is way to slow to bowl on roads... He needs something in the deck to exploit. Finch will pummel him on a road imo. Would not most of his bowling be on Asian roads? No. He has only played 11 of 21 tests in Asia, and bowled far more overs outside of Asia than inside Asia. :P Also India roads up far far less often than Australia does. When they leave something in the pitch for the seamers - often like when Sri Lanka or Bangladesh tours, Kumar and Shami often used to get a call up. India tricked NZC doing this in 2016 in the 2nd test. NZ played a long tail to accommodate spinners when it was the seamers on both sides wrecking havoc until the last day. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/10716/scorecard/1030215/india-vs-new-zealand-2nd-test-nz-tour-of-india-2016-17The Indian curators have mastered pitch creation... they can create anything they want over there, including bouncy pitches... The last pitch Bangladesh got in India looked it had been extracted from the GABBA. If there is no lateral movement in it for the seamers in India, U Yadav typically plays. Bumrah is now a spanner in the works of the combos cos he seems to be a complete conditions bowler. Also Kumar is bowling much slower now than he used to. Kumar is like their Safrica and England specialist for seam and swing pitches (that are not roads). And they and the fans missed him in England this year to see where he is at with swing as against Jimmy. Kumar knows how to get lateral movement. He isn't some tall guy just banging it in the road day at 145km/h. He is more subtle and looks to exploit swing and seam. He plays a lot of odi and t20 for India because he has a good yorker and slower ball variations. Kumar will be eaten alive on Aussie roads imo. He is very skilled. But not fast. I do not think he is fast enough for Aussie roads where there is no lateral movement to extract. It will be like watching Boult, Anderson or Philander struggling. Aus roads need pacier men with height to get the trajectory for bounce. Even Shami I fear may be too skiddy for Australia. I'd still give him a try at some stage, but he is a swing bowler also. The Indian attack hinges around what seamers with inswingers Bumrah, ISharma with bounce bowler Yadav can do to Finch, Khawaja, and SMarsh - and then try and get the middle order to collapse. Still - with the current Aus batting line-up - anything is possible... Also I read you criticized Finch's playing of spin, tbh - Finch despite concrete feet, is very adept at slapping the spinners through the on side at will. Not much sweeping, not much foot movement, but he gets a lot of easy singles and twos and can find the boundary when he wants. Finch has a lot of IPL runs batting in the middle order against the spinners. He is more than useful against top quality spin bowling. It doesn't always look great, but is effective. A touch harsh perhaps on Finchy. He survived batting time against spin in the UAE. Never seen him in IPL but I saw him in these T20s and he looked all at sea. But as you say looks can be deceptive.. Finch's nemesis is outswing/outseam starting on off stump, and in/swing, in/seam starting on 4th stump (offside). That is when his concrete fail him. He makes no attempt to get his pad out of line for the inball - and does not follow the outball (same foot movement would achieve both). On the flat, and against the spinners, he is better than people think. He actually picks it from the hand and plays for the spin. He hasn't scored all his odi and t20i runs by being a total muppet like many Aussie fans suggest he is. His concrete feet make him look worse than he is. Him playing spinners is rather funny, and yes - looks are deceptive. He looks ungainly - but he makes contact cos he picks the delivery type and scores runs. When he loses his eye, he's stuffed as he has no technique. But - he has not lost his eye yet... And you really should watch some IPL, England games, India games, SA games, just to see what the world is upto besides Australia and how people play in foreign conditions... It really is enjoyable to follow and watch... I followed the BBL before IPL - but for the past 4 or 5 years, the BBL drop off has been huge to the point the last few years I have not followed it much at all... The IPL however, isn't bad at all. My major criticism of the IPL is the low standard of fielding. Sure - the imports like Boult take rippers, but for the Indian domestic players - a much lower standard. Like its Benny Hill-esque at times. But the bowling and batting - not too shabby at all.. The 4 imports per team really helps on the death bowling beyond Kumar and Bumrah. Mustafizur, Bravo, Malinga, Starc formerly, and many more. And of course the batting of ABdV and Jos Buttler et al is always a treat, then Warner and KW, let alone the Indian batsmen. David Warner is a force in the IPL. He just controls chases so well. Smith much much much less so. Smith lets the run rate get out of all control and stuffs things up. This said, Warner's team has had the luxury of intl stars like Kumar (ind), R Khan (Afg), Mustafizur (Bng), M Nabi (Afg), Shakib Al Hasan (Bng), S Kaul (ind), C Jordan (eng)and more like even Braitwaite (WI), Boult (NZ) and Stanlake (Aus) in recent years - so chasing may look easier for a reason... But you may not recognize all these names... But I will tell you one thing, Tom Moody is an amazing coach... I rate Tom the best coach in world cricket right now... And Bayliss isn't going along too badly and permitted Frabraze to continue with the extreme England ODI style... Mickey Arthur has shown with Pakistan that perhaps Aussies were too swift to dismiss him - because Pak is on the up and up... And Hesson has already proved his credentials over and over... I do watch other nations play Test cricket. I have been watching some of the England v Sri Lanka game. Also how your Black Caps are going in the UAE. IPL or even BBL does not really interest me as much as it used to. Finch's nemesis is outswing/outseam starting on off stump, and in/swing, in/seam starting on 4th stump (offside). Then if India has done its homework they will soon work out Finch's weakness No point in Australia. If Boult and Anderson are unable to swing it, and if Philander gets no seam, its just pointless to try. Aus is all about getting some 6'6" knuckledragger hurling down 150 km/h if there's no grass on the pitch. Forget swing. seam or spin these days. It is a road. Aus test cricket pitches is the king of highways in the past 6-8 years or so. Gets worse all the time too... Still Kohli loved it last time... KW feasted the year after with Taylor. Faf the year after that. It is a batsman's paradise and lanky fast bowler's paradise. It's crap for everyone else tbf. There is no sure and fast rule that says CA has to serve up roads for touring sides. Australia does have curators that can produce a deck to aid the bowler. Just take a look at the tracks being used for the Shield. Grassy providing plenty of seam and swing. The ICC should impel Test tour hosts to produce a track that provides a fair contest between bat and ball. Sadly,the ICC and its deputy. CA are both as weak as each other..kow towing to the one entity holding the purse strings..the BCCI. Disgusts me the way the put the mitey dollar ahead of the people that keep cricket at the forefront .. the fans. Absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the ICC. The ICC merely has a match referee suggest when the pitch was entirely unsatisfactory - like the dustbowls India served SA or the road at the MCG CA served England... CA answers to the ICC in no way at all ever! Ever! It fines and suspends poor on-field conduct, overrates and ball tampering only.. ICC has no say over pitch production. At all. CA voted to join the BIG 3 and make it official at first instance! The only thing the ICC does is supply umpires, the world cups, champs trophy, world t20 tournaments and redistribute the funds of these tournaments... CA controls cricket in Australia... and where the CA team tours and when... The ICC does not rule CA - the ICC has no say over CA - CA does what CA wants to do - if CA wants BCCI rupees - that is nothing at all to do the the ICC... The ICC only gets revenue from the world tournaments - they get no money at all from the BCCI - AT ALL! The ICC is a club that does tournaments and supplies umpires. Tours are a relationship, an affair, a romance. All the ICC does is supply an umpire or two... I know I have informed you of this before, but I will keep doing it until people understand - the ICC is no excuse for ANY and EVERY single Board's behaviour... because the ICC DOES NOT GOVERN CRICKET - it is like the UN or APEC - it is simply a forum that provides some peace keepers. If China, Russia and USA want to goto war (the Big 3) they do as they please - and this very much includes CA... Baggers - I like you - but you seriously need to read about world cricket is funded and how it operates. You seem to ingore my posts. Read up on it. Jarrod Kimber is a good start. He's an aussie - read his articles - watch his doco "death of a gentleman". He will tell you how it is... The ICC has no control at all over CA, ECB or BCCI... they're the Big 3 for a reason... Trying to hide CA behind the ICC is insulting to SA, SL, Bang, WI , NZL, Afg, and all the fans of the small guys... because we know the truth... If CA wants money - it wants money - not the ICC - it gets none from tours. The host gets the money - not the touring team. But more importantly - nothing at all to do with the ICC at all EVER... The ICC does not get a penny from the tours... It gets some expenses for supplying an umpire and referee at best... (which is taken out of the redistribution from WC, WT20 funds..) Now CA may very well pander to the BCCI for rupees - but that is nothing to do with the iCC outside of BCCI buying CA's vote for some rupees. And that was CA's choice... Which they exercise regularly - see the Bangladesh tour cancelled of CA this year..
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+xThe idea you have to be fast on Aussie decks is misguided. Philander had an average of 23 here in 2016 and he bowled better than his figures suggested. If youre good enough to get the ball moving like Philander is pace doesnt matter. A point well made. It was surprising that at the same time Darren Lehman said Aussie pace bowlers had to bowl 140kph to be selected. Then Philander and Abbott skittled Australia in two tests, by bowling a little over medium pace on Australian wickets.
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+x+xThe idea you have to be fast on Aussie decks is misguided. Philander had an average of 23 here in 2016 and he bowled better than his figures suggested. If youre good enough to get the ball moving like Philander is pace doesnt matter. A point well made. It was surprising that at the same time Darren Lehman said Aussie pace bowlers had to bowl 140kph to be selected. Then Philander and Abbott skittled Australia in two tests, by bowling a little over medium pace on Australian wickets. Point well made? An ATG who averages 21.54 overall and over 30 in Aus... I stand by my argument. In 2016 - he got Adelaide day/night and Hobart... India get neither... Context is everything! Esp since I already discounted these 2 situations :-)... Take out Hobart and day/night Adelaide (Where Anderson and Boult liked) - what's his average then? Just to make my point even better :-) Baggers, Bollinger look up his career end... Aus is roads for seamers outside nights at Adelaide night and Hobart... Even Philander averages over 30 there! :-) even with his one bag at the Waca in 2016...
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+x+x+xThe idea you have to be fast on Aussie decks is misguided. Philander had an average of 23 here in 2016 and he bowled better than his figures suggested. If youre good enough to get the ball moving like Philander is pace doesnt matter. A point well made. It was surprising that at the same time Darren Lehman said Aussie pace bowlers had to bowl 140kph to be selected. Then Philander and Abbott skittled Australia in two tests, by bowling a little over medium pace on Australian wickets. Point well made? An ATG who averages 21.54 overall and over 30 in Aus... I stand by my argument. In 2016 - he got Adelaide day/night and Hobart... India get neither... Context is everything! Esp since I already discounted these 2 situations :-)... Take out Hobart and day/night Adelaide (Where Anderson and Boult liked) - what's his average then? Just to make my point even better :-) Baggers, Bollinger look up his career end... Aus is roads for seamers outside nights at Adelaide night and Hobart... Even Philander averages over 30 there! :-) even with his one bag at the Waca in 2016... And his demo job at Hobart... I'll put this in the simplest terms possible - if Aus pitches seam and swing, why do Broad (seam) and Anderson (swing) suck in Australia but own the Australian bowlers in England? Why are England desperate to find pace bowlers for Australia the Ashes after next? The answer is - only Adelaide at night (Anderson and Boult) and Hobart (Philander) have typically been lively. Deny it as much as you like. But it is the reality... Until CA fans accept this, until CA officials accept this - you will not even draw in England like Pakistan and NZ do... You will not challenge England or win in England like SA do... You will just keep losing there... England will keep grassing it up... You may deny your pitches are roads.. for whatever reason, whilst you're in denial - your away record will continue to suck - I mean suck so much that Pak and NZ does better in England than your team... Forget SA... Seriously...
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+x+x+x+xThe idea you have to be fast on Aussie decks is misguided. Philander had an average of 23 here in 2016 and he bowled better than his figures suggested. If youre good enough to get the ball moving like Philander is pace doesnt matter. A point well made. It was surprising that at the same time Darren Lehman said Aussie pace bowlers had to bowl 140kph to be selected. Then Philander and Abbott skittled Australia in two tests, by bowling a little over medium pace on Australian wickets. Point well made? An ATG who averages 21.54 overall and over 30 in Aus... I stand by my argument. In 2016 - he got Adelaide day/night and Hobart... India get neither... Context is everything! Esp since I already discounted these 2 situations :-)... Take out Hobart and day/night Adelaide (Where Anderson and Boult liked) - what's his average then? Just to make my point even better :-) Baggers, Bollinger look up his career end... Aus is roads for seamers outside nights at Adelaide night and Hobart... Even Philander averages over 30 there! :-) even with his one bag at the Waca in 2016... And his demo job at Hobart... I'll put this in the simplest terms possible - if Aus pitches seam and swing, why do Broad (seam) and Anderson (swing) suck in Australia but own the Australian bowlers in England? Why are England desperate to find pace bowlers for Australia the Ashes after next? The answer is - only Adelaide at night (Anderson and Boult) and Hobart (Philander) have typically been lively. Deny it as much as you like. But it is the reality... Until CA fans accept this, until CA officials accept this - you will not even draw in England like Pakistan and NZ do... You will not challenge England or win in England like SA do... You will just keep losing there... England will keep grassing it up... You may deny your pitches are roads.. for whatever reason, whilst you're in denial - your away record will continue to suck - I mean suck so much that Pak and NZ does better in England than your team... Forget SA... Seriously... I am not denying our Test pitches are roads. What I did say Paddles is there are Shield decks presently that provide seam and some swing even without use of the English Duke ball. If CA wanted to it could make our Test decks more lively.. a fair contest between bat and ball. But they will not as they want to ensure the coffers are full by playing a five day match. Green, grassy decks do not ensure five day games.. grassless roads do. If they can curate good domestic cricket pitches then they should do the same for Test matches. But they will not for reasons I have ALREADY OUTLINED.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xRicky Pointing has placed his support behind Finch opening the batting. Why Ricky when Finch averages @18 opening in FC cricket? Seam expert Kumar says he thrives on opening the bowling against r/h batsmen. His record backs up this. He strikes at under 20 against r/hs compared to hi 30s against l/hs. Kumar is way to slow to bowl on roads... He needs something in the deck to exploit. Finch will pummel him on a road imo. Would not most of his bowling be on Asian roads? No. He has only played 11 of 21 tests in Asia, and bowled far more overs outside of Asia than inside Asia. :P Also India roads up far far less often than Australia does. When they leave something in the pitch for the seamers - often like when Sri Lanka or Bangladesh tours, Kumar and Shami often used to get a call up. India tricked NZC doing this in 2016 in the 2nd test. NZ played a long tail to accommodate spinners when it was the seamers on both sides wrecking havoc until the last day. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/10716/scorecard/1030215/india-vs-new-zealand-2nd-test-nz-tour-of-india-2016-17The Indian curators have mastered pitch creation... they can create anything they want over there, including bouncy pitches... The last pitch Bangladesh got in India looked it had been extracted from the GABBA. If there is no lateral movement in it for the seamers in India, U Yadav typically plays. Bumrah is now a spanner in the works of the combos cos he seems to be a complete conditions bowler. Also Kumar is bowling much slower now than he used to. Kumar is like their Safrica and England specialist for seam and swing pitches (that are not roads). And they and the fans missed him in England this year to see where he is at with swing as against Jimmy. Kumar knows how to get lateral movement. He isn't some tall guy just banging it in the road day at 145km/h. He is more subtle and looks to exploit swing and seam. He plays a lot of odi and t20 for India because he has a good yorker and slower ball variations. Kumar will be eaten alive on Aussie roads imo. He is very skilled. But not fast. I do not think he is fast enough for Aussie roads where there is no lateral movement to extract. It will be like watching Boult, Anderson or Philander struggling. Aus roads need pacier men with height to get the trajectory for bounce. Even Shami I fear may be too skiddy for Australia. I'd still give him a try at some stage, but he is a swing bowler also. The Indian attack hinges around what seamers with inswingers Bumrah, ISharma with bounce bowler Yadav can do to Finch, Khawaja, and SMarsh - and then try and get the middle order to collapse. Still - with the current Aus batting line-up - anything is possible... Also I read you criticized Finch's playing of spin, tbh - Finch despite concrete feet, is very adept at slapping the spinners through the on side at will. Not much sweeping, not much foot movement, but he gets a lot of easy singles and twos and can find the boundary when he wants. Finch has a lot of IPL runs batting in the middle order against the spinners. He is more than useful against top quality spin bowling. It doesn't always look great, but is effective. A touch harsh perhaps on Finchy. He survived batting time against spin in the UAE. Never seen him in IPL but I saw him in these T20s and he looked all at sea. But as you say looks can be deceptive.. Finch's nemesis is outswing/outseam starting on off stump, and in/swing, in/seam starting on 4th stump (offside). That is when his concrete fail him. He makes no attempt to get his pad out of line for the inball - and does not follow the outball (same foot movement would achieve both). On the flat, and against the spinners, he is better than people think. He actually picks it from the hand and plays for the spin. He hasn't scored all his odi and t20i runs by being a total muppet like many Aussie fans suggest he is. His concrete feet make him look worse than he is. Him playing spinners is rather funny, and yes - looks are deceptive. He looks ungainly - but he makes contact cos he picks the delivery type and scores runs. When he loses his eye, he's stuffed as he has no technique. But - he has not lost his eye yet... And you really should watch some IPL, England games, India games, SA games, just to see what the world is upto besides Australia and how people play in foreign conditions... It really is enjoyable to follow and watch... I followed the BBL before IPL - but for the past 4 or 5 years, the BBL drop off has been huge to the point the last few years I have not followed it much at all... The IPL however, isn't bad at all. My major criticism of the IPL is the low standard of fielding. Sure - the imports like Boult take rippers, but for the Indian domestic players - a much lower standard. Like its Benny Hill-esque at times. But the bowling and batting - not too shabby at all.. The 4 imports per team really helps on the death bowling beyond Kumar and Bumrah. Mustafizur, Bravo, Malinga, Starc formerly, and many more. And of course the batting of ABdV and Jos Buttler et al is always a treat, then Warner and KW, let alone the Indian batsmen. David Warner is a force in the IPL. He just controls chases so well. Smith much much much less so. Smith lets the run rate get out of all control and stuffs things up. This said, Warner's team has had the luxury of intl stars like Kumar (ind), R Khan (Afg), Mustafizur (Bng), M Nabi (Afg), Shakib Al Hasan (Bng), S Kaul (ind), C Jordan (eng)and more like even Braitwaite (WI), Boult (NZ) and Stanlake (Aus) in recent years - so chasing may look easier for a reason... But you may not recognize all these names... But I will tell you one thing, Tom Moody is an amazing coach... I rate Tom the best coach in world cricket right now... And Bayliss isn't going along too badly and permitted Frabraze to continue with the extreme England ODI style... Mickey Arthur has shown with Pakistan that perhaps Aussies were too swift to dismiss him - because Pak is on the up and up... And Hesson has already proved his credentials over and over... I do watch other nations play Test cricket. I have been watching some of the England v Sri Lanka game. Also how your Black Caps are going in the UAE. IPL or even BBL does not really interest me as much as it used to. Finch's nemesis is outswing/outseam starting on off stump, and in/swing, in/seam starting on 4th stump (offside). Then if India has done its homework they will soon work out Finch's weakness No point in Australia. If Boult and Anderson are unable to swing it, and if Philander gets no seam, its just pointless to try. Aus is all about getting some 6'6" knuckledragger hurling down 150 km/h if there's no grass on the pitch. Forget swing. seam or spin these days. It is a road. Aus test cricket pitches is the king of highways in the past 6-8 years or so. Gets worse all the time too... Still Kohli loved it last time... KW feasted the year after with Taylor. Faf the year after that. It is a batsman's paradise and lanky fast bowler's paradise. It's crap for everyone else tbf. There is no sure and fast rule that says CA has to serve up roads for touring sides. Australia does have curators that can produce a deck to aid the bowler. Just take a look at the tracks being used for the Shield. Grassy providing plenty of seam and swing. The ICC should impel Test tour hosts to produce a track that provides a fair contest between bat and ball. Sadly,the ICC and its deputy. CA are both as weak as each other..kow towing to the one entity holding the purse strings..the BCCI. Disgusts me the way the put the mitey dollar ahead of the people that keep cricket at the forefront .. the fans. Absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the ICC. The ICC merely has a match referee suggest when the pitch was entirely unsatisfactory - like the dustbowls India served SA or the road at the MCG CA served England... CA answers to the ICC in no way at all ever! Ever! It fines and suspends poor on-field conduct, overrates and ball tampering only.. ICC has no say over pitch production. At all. CA voted to join the BIG 3 and make it official at first instance! The only thing the ICC does is supply umpires, the world cups, champs trophy, world t20 tournaments and redistribute the funds of these tournaments... CA controls cricket in Australia... and where the CA team tours and when... The ICC does not rule CA - the ICC has no say over CA - CA does what CA wants to do - if CA wants BCCI rupees - that is nothing at all to do the the ICC... The ICC only gets revenue from the world tournaments - they get no money at all from the BCCI - AT ALL! The ICC is a club that does tournaments and supplies umpires. Tours are a relationship, an affair, a romance. All the ICC does is supply an umpire or two... I know I have informed you of this before, but I will keep doing it until people understand - the ICC is no excuse for ANY and EVERY single Board's behaviour... because the ICC DOES NOT GOVERN CRICKET - it is like the UN or APEC - it is simply a forum that provides some peace keepers. If China, Russia and USA want to goto war (the Big 3) they do as they please - and this very much includes CA... Baggers - I like you - but you seriously need to read about world cricket is funded and how it operates. You seem to ingore my posts. Read up on it. Jarrod Kimber is a good start. He's an aussie - read his articles - watch his doco "death of a gentleman". He will tell you how it is... The ICC has no control at all over CA, ECB or BCCI... they're the Big 3 for a reason... Trying to hide CA behind the ICC is insulting to SA, SL, Bang, WI , NZL, Afg, and all the fans of the small guys... because we know the truth... If CA wants money - it wants money - not the ICC - it gets none from tours. The host gets the money - not the touring team. But more importantly - nothing at all to do with the ICC at all EVER... The ICC does not get a penny from the tours... It gets some expenses for supplying an umpire and referee at best... (which is taken out of the redistribution from WC, WT20 funds..) Now CA may very well pander to the BCCI for rupees - but that is nothing to do with the iCC outside of BCCI buying CA's vote for some rupees. And that was CA's choice... Which they exercise regularly - see the Bangladesh tour cancelled of CA this year.. Ok so who controls the big three. Or are they the Mafiosa of sport? CA should not be allowed to pander to the dollar at the expense of the cricket paying public of this country. Their attitude over the past two decades has created situations where our Baggy Greens continue to be humiliated when they play away. CA sugar coat the fact it is doing something to turn around our deplorable records in India and England. India.. with sub continental like decks at the NCC. Big deal these are only for practice. They employ a man as our spin consultant who never played Test cricket and has a deplorable First Class record in his home country. For England; we use the English Duke ball for only half of our Shield season.. not the full 10 rounds. Why? Specially in an Ashes year. How many of our Test batsmen are impelled to play English County cricket in the off season. How many of our best young talents are told to play English League cricket to cut their teeth in English conditions? In days past this was almost a rite of passage for our best youngsters.
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We may get some play in the tour match at the SCG today. There has been severe thunderstorms in Sydney overnite and this morning but the forecast is for some drying sun from about midday.
I did say this yesterday. Evidently India/BCCI is seething over the quality of the opposition for this tour game. I said it was an insult to the #1 ranked side .. and it is.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xRicky Pointing has placed his support behind Finch opening the batting. Why Ricky when Finch averages @18 opening in FC cricket? Seam expert Kumar says he thrives on opening the bowling against r/h batsmen. His record backs up this. He strikes at under 20 against r/hs compared to hi 30s against l/hs. Kumar is way to slow to bowl on roads... He needs something in the deck to exploit. Finch will pummel him on a road imo. Would not most of his bowling be on Asian roads? No. He has only played 11 of 21 tests in Asia, and bowled far more overs outside of Asia than inside Asia. :P Also India roads up far far less often than Australia does. When they leave something in the pitch for the seamers - often like when Sri Lanka or Bangladesh tours, Kumar and Shami often used to get a call up. India tricked NZC doing this in 2016 in the 2nd test. NZ played a long tail to accommodate spinners when it was the seamers on both sides wrecking havoc until the last day. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/10716/scorecard/1030215/india-vs-new-zealand-2nd-test-nz-tour-of-india-2016-17The Indian curators have mastered pitch creation... they can create anything they want over there, including bouncy pitches... The last pitch Bangladesh got in India looked it had been extracted from the GABBA. If there is no lateral movement in it for the seamers in India, U Yadav typically plays. Bumrah is now a spanner in the works of the combos cos he seems to be a complete conditions bowler. Also Kumar is bowling much slower now than he used to. Kumar is like their Safrica and England specialist for seam and swing pitches (that are not roads). And they and the fans missed him in England this year to see where he is at with swing as against Jimmy. Kumar knows how to get lateral movement. He isn't some tall guy just banging it in the road day at 145km/h. He is more subtle and looks to exploit swing and seam. He plays a lot of odi and t20 for India because he has a good yorker and slower ball variations. Kumar will be eaten alive on Aussie roads imo. He is very skilled. But not fast. I do not think he is fast enough for Aussie roads where there is no lateral movement to extract. It will be like watching Boult, Anderson or Philander struggling. Aus roads need pacier men with height to get the trajectory for bounce. Even Shami I fear may be too skiddy for Australia. I'd still give him a try at some stage, but he is a swing bowler also. The Indian attack hinges around what seamers with inswingers Bumrah, ISharma with bounce bowler Yadav can do to Finch, Khawaja, and SMarsh - and then try and get the middle order to collapse. Still - with the current Aus batting line-up - anything is possible... Also I read you criticized Finch's playing of spin, tbh - Finch despite concrete feet, is very adept at slapping the spinners through the on side at will. Not much sweeping, not much foot movement, but he gets a lot of easy singles and twos and can find the boundary when he wants. Finch has a lot of IPL runs batting in the middle order against the spinners. He is more than useful against top quality spin bowling. It doesn't always look great, but is effective. A touch harsh perhaps on Finchy. He survived batting time against spin in the UAE. Never seen him in IPL but I saw him in these T20s and he looked all at sea. But as you say looks can be deceptive.. Finch's nemesis is outswing/outseam starting on off stump, and in/swing, in/seam starting on 4th stump (offside). That is when his concrete fail him. He makes no attempt to get his pad out of line for the inball - and does not follow the outball (same foot movement would achieve both). On the flat, and against the spinners, he is better than people think. He actually picks it from the hand and plays for the spin. He hasn't scored all his odi and t20i runs by being a total muppet like many Aussie fans suggest he is. His concrete feet make him look worse than he is. Him playing spinners is rather funny, and yes - looks are deceptive. He looks ungainly - but he makes contact cos he picks the delivery type and scores runs. When he loses his eye, he's stuffed as he has no technique. But - he has not lost his eye yet... And you really should watch some IPL, England games, India games, SA games, just to see what the world is upto besides Australia and how people play in foreign conditions... It really is enjoyable to follow and watch... I followed the BBL before IPL - but for the past 4 or 5 years, the BBL drop off has been huge to the point the last few years I have not followed it much at all... The IPL however, isn't bad at all. My major criticism of the IPL is the low standard of fielding. Sure - the imports like Boult take rippers, but for the Indian domestic players - a much lower standard. Like its Benny Hill-esque at times. But the bowling and batting - not too shabby at all.. The 4 imports per team really helps on the death bowling beyond Kumar and Bumrah. Mustafizur, Bravo, Malinga, Starc formerly, and many more. And of course the batting of ABdV and Jos Buttler et al is always a treat, then Warner and KW, let alone the Indian batsmen. David Warner is a force in the IPL. He just controls chases so well. Smith much much much less so. Smith lets the run rate get out of all control and stuffs things up. This said, Warner's team has had the luxury of intl stars like Kumar (ind), R Khan (Afg), Mustafizur (Bng), M Nabi (Afg), Shakib Al Hasan (Bng), S Kaul (ind), C Jordan (eng)and more like even Braitwaite (WI), Boult (NZ) and Stanlake (Aus) in recent years - so chasing may look easier for a reason... But you may not recognize all these names... But I will tell you one thing, Tom Moody is an amazing coach... I rate Tom the best coach in world cricket right now... And Bayliss isn't going along too badly and permitted Frabraze to continue with the extreme England ODI style... Mickey Arthur has shown with Pakistan that perhaps Aussies were too swift to dismiss him - because Pak is on the up and up... And Hesson has already proved his credentials over and over... I do watch other nations play Test cricket. I have been watching some of the England v Sri Lanka game. Also how your Black Caps are going in the UAE. IPL or even BBL does not really interest me as much as it used to. Finch's nemesis is outswing/outseam starting on off stump, and in/swing, in/seam starting on 4th stump (offside). Then if India has done its homework they will soon work out Finch's weakness No point in Australia. If Boult and Anderson are unable to swing it, and if Philander gets no seam, its just pointless to try. Aus is all about getting some 6'6" knuckledragger hurling down 150 km/h if there's no grass on the pitch. Forget swing. seam or spin these days. It is a road. Aus test cricket pitches is the king of highways in the past 6-8 years or so. Gets worse all the time too... Still Kohli loved it last time... KW feasted the year after with Taylor. Faf the year after that. It is a batsman's paradise and lanky fast bowler's paradise. It's crap for everyone else tbf. There is no sure and fast rule that says CA has to serve up roads for touring sides. Australia does have curators that can produce a deck to aid the bowler. Just take a look at the tracks being used for the Shield. Grassy providing plenty of seam and swing. The ICC should impel Test tour hosts to produce a track that provides a fair contest between bat and ball. Sadly,the ICC and its deputy. CA are both as weak as each other..kow towing to the one entity holding the purse strings..the BCCI. Disgusts me the way the put the mitey dollar ahead of the people that keep cricket at the forefront .. the fans. Absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the ICC. The ICC merely has a match referee suggest when the pitch was entirely unsatisfactory - like the dustbowls India served SA or the road at the MCG CA served England... CA answers to the ICC in no way at all ever! Ever! It fines and suspends poor on-field conduct, overrates and ball tampering only.. ICC has no say over pitch production. At all. CA voted to join the BIG 3 and make it official at first instance! The only thing the ICC does is supply umpires, the world cups, champs trophy, world t20 tournaments and redistribute the funds of these tournaments... CA controls cricket in Australia... and where the CA team tours and when... The ICC does not rule CA - the ICC has no say over CA - CA does what CA wants to do - if CA wants BCCI rupees - that is nothing at all to do the the ICC... The ICC only gets revenue from the world tournaments - they get no money at all from the BCCI - AT ALL! The ICC is a club that does tournaments and supplies umpires. Tours are a relationship, an affair, a romance. All the ICC does is supply an umpire or two... I know I have informed you of this before, but I will keep doing it until people understand - the ICC is no excuse for ANY and EVERY single Board's behaviour... because the ICC DOES NOT GOVERN CRICKET - it is like the UN or APEC - it is simply a forum that provides some peace keepers. If China, Russia and USA want to goto war (the Big 3) they do as they please - and this very much includes CA... Baggers - I like you - but you seriously need to read about world cricket is funded and how it operates. You seem to ingore my posts. Read up on it. Jarrod Kimber is a good start. He's an aussie - read his articles - watch his doco "death of a gentleman". He will tell you how it is... The ICC has no control at all over CA, ECB or BCCI... they're the Big 3 for a reason... Trying to hide CA behind the ICC is insulting to SA, SL, Bang, WI , NZL, Afg, and all the fans of the small guys... because we know the truth... If CA wants money - it wants money - not the ICC - it gets none from tours. The host gets the money - not the touring team. But more importantly - nothing at all to do with the ICC at all EVER... The ICC does not get a penny from the tours... It gets some expenses for supplying an umpire and referee at best... (which is taken out of the redistribution from WC, WT20 funds..) Now CA may very well pander to the BCCI for rupees - but that is nothing to do with the iCC outside of BCCI buying CA's vote for some rupees. And that was CA's choice... Which they exercise regularly - see the Bangladesh tour cancelled of CA this year.. Ok so who controls the big three. Or are they the Mafiosa of sport? CA should not be allowed to pander to the dollar at the expense of the cricket paying public of this country. Their attitude over the past two decades has created situations where our Baggy Greens continue to be humiliated when they play away. CA sugar coat the fact it is doing something to turn around our deplorable records in India and England. India.. with sub continental like decks at the NCC. Big deal these are only for practice. They employ a man as our spin consultant who never played Test cricket and has a deplorable First Class record in his home country. For England; we use the English Duke ball for only half of our Shield season.. not the full 10 rounds. Why? Specially in an Ashes year. How many of our Test batsmen are impelled to play English County cricket in the off season. How many of our best young talents are told to play English League cricket to cut their teeth in English conditions? In days past this was almost a rite of passage for our best youngsters. Noone controls the big 3, ECB, CA and BCCI. The ICC is a "club" (originally the MCC did its role) with no oversight of the national Boards and the big 3 may leverage and buy votes, BCCI may simply threaten boycotts. Hence their refusal to play Pakistan. Noone can make the big 3 do anything. Noone can make any of the members do anything, but the rest may be easily bought as everyone else is struggling for crumbs, so they fall into someone's pocket and fall into line. CA, ECB and BCCI make sure that they get plenty of test matches and limited overs fixtures between themselves, and Pak, SA, WI, NZ, SL, Bang, Zim, Afg are all very much after thoughts. The only series outside the world cups (which India takes credit for and unequal distribution of the revenue) that make big money are the Ashes, and whenever India plays someone anywhere. So everyone wants India to tour their shores... Everyone. A big 3 solely playing test world is quite imaginable, imagine Eng touring one year, India the next, Eng the year after. Ditto for yearly away tours, India that year, England the next, India the year after... As I have said before, think of the ICC as the UN. If the USA, Russia or China want to goto war, and the UN says no, who's going to stop USA, Russia or China from doing what they want? When they want? Want to know how bad it is? NZ has just gone two years, TWO YEARS with no away tests. Hopefully the ICC test championship improves on things.. In this time - there was one mini limited overs tour of India. That's it. 3 odi matches away in 2 years. No away tests. 4 tests, all at home, in over 20 months. Thank you Big 3 :P http://stats.espncricinfo.com/newzealand/engine/records/team/series_results.html?class=1;id=5;type=teamThe players will play more tests in Australia so they need to learn the Kookaburra as well. Best coach NZ has had never even played FC cricket - let alone international cricket.
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+xWe may get some play in the tour match at the SCG today. There has been severe thunderstorms in Sydney overnite and this morning but the forecast is for some drying sun from about midday. I did say this yesterday . Evidently India/BCCI is seething over the quality of the opposition for this tour game. I said it was an insult to the #1 ranked side .. and it is. Gotta url for this?
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+x+xWe may get some play in the tour match at the SCG today. There has been severe thunderstorms in Sydney overnite and this morning but the forecast is for some drying sun from about midday. I did say this yesterday . Evidently India/BCCI is seething over the quality of the opposition for this tour game. I said it was an insult to the #1 ranked side .. and it is. Gotta url for this? http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/25338553/sam-whiteman-lead-inexperienced-ca-xi-india
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Rain has delayed play the SCG. Even the Super Sopper will have its work cut out if we are see any play today.
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There is nothing in that report about India being upset about it... India as I read elsewhere is going to play its entire squad of 18 making sure it has no FC status and simply use it as an outdoor net...
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