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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it. This home advantage is unfair for Oz because we cant reciprocate as we no longer have traditional Oz tracks. That is hard, bouncy decks with some (1) lateral movement for quality quicks like Hazlewood. Most of our recent Test decks have been drop in roads. It was these we dished up 4 years ago to Kohli and Rahane..and they feasted on them. The only time Kohli failed was on the bouncy Gabba. (2) India did not have traditional decks on which to bat last time they toured England . The UK was going thru a heatwave (3) and the tracks were more like here in Oz than England. (4)That was why he prospered. Give him the (5)t raditional, damp, overcast English conditions where swing and lateral movement is prominent and he comes back to the field as was proven on the previous tour. So our only chance to provide a home advantage with the day/nite Adelaide Test was stymied by the BCCI. CA should have showed some intestinal fortitude. (6) Who schedules the Tests.. the hosts. Is that correct? (1) For lateral movement, I'll take Kumar, Shami and Bumrah over Hazelwood. (2) Those England conditions were swinging around corners, like England has done forever... See Woakes and Curran let alone Anderson... (3) No England swung around corners, all the England batsmen were sucking to swing - bar Curran who scored at a series winning average of 36.5.(4) No Kohli prospered because despite his entire team sucking, he scored centuries. It was brilliant batting in the worst conditions. Easily the best batsman by a mile of both teams. (in both SA and Eng). (5) It swung so much in England, the English bowlers were putting their keys in the bowl... (6) A contract requires an offer and acceptance. It needs to be agreed. You seem to be in an imaginary land. Kohli in the worst batting conditions ever, outshone ABdV and Amla (and everyone else) in SA, and Cook, Root, Curran and all the England team in England in the worst swinging conditions ever. You seem to be in denial. The Indian mistake was waiting too long to call up Pant ahead of Karthik. Could have changed the series entirely... #seriously... Aus may win in Australia this year. Because Indian bowlers lack pace. But to try and say it was not swinging in England this year is just imaginary and laughable. How else did I Sharma - the worst bowler to tour Australia - rip the England team apart? You're dreaming Baggers... Just dreaming... Kohli ripped it up in SA and Eng (his batsmen in the top order did not stand by him) - and there's no way Jimmy took all those Indian wickets in AUs like conditions... That's just laughable. Jimmy sucks in Australia - he rules in swing. And it was swinging. Just look at the wickets S Curran (a 10 pace trundler swinger took). (He really sucked in NZ last summer without swing - watched it myself). Where is this post going? Who or what are you trying to attack? Kohli? I watched a good spell of the series. It was a jekyll and hyde type series.. lowish scores first two tests with swinging conditions. last three produced far larger scores which suggests batting conditions had improved due to the heatwave hitting hard on the decks and drying them.. even parching them. I recall the comm saying these are very un English conditions. This was when Kohli really thrived and the wickets from swing dropped.. replaced by spin. We all know Indians feast on spin. I dont deny Kohli is India's premier batsman.. what I am saying is he is vulnerable to the moving ball.. and the steepling ball. I disagree - with respect.
1st test - Kohli scores 200 runs in a shoot out of a match. Ball is hooping with swing.2nd test - India rolled over. Woakes gets a century, and its game over.. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119550/england-vs-india-2nd-test-ind-in-eng-20183rd test - Pandya gets a 5/for in a 6 over spell. That is how much the ball was swinging. England were thrashed. Kohli scores 200 runs again. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119551/england-vs-india-3rd-test-ind-in-eng-20184th test - Shami had the ball hooping around corners. Ali recalled to the team - sliced through India bowling into the footmarks given to him by the Indian seamers who had swinging it from around the wicket. Kohli again makes runs as India are obliterated. Swing bowler Curran gets him with a ball across him in the first (Kohli plays for inswing), Ali gets him with spin in the second. This I might add - was selection genius to recall Ali. Because Shami and Sharma had been bowling around the wicket a lot. Suddenly there was a big rough patch outside the off stump for a right handed batsman. Ali just kept firing the ball at it - and it spun like it was an Indian dustbowl but variably so. This causes Ashwin to get dropped, because he was unable to replicate it. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119552/england-vs-india-4th-test-ind-in-eng-20185th test did have better batting conditions. I agree. Kohli makes a duck :P England had already won the series and was farewelling Cook - who had failed all series till he makes a final farewell 70 and 140 odd century. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119553/england-vs-india-5th-test-ind-in-eng-2018in my opinion, Kohli was the best batsman I have seen play in England for a very long time this year, and easily the best on show in South Africa this year by a mile. And of course he is good in Asia. And the last time in Aus he scored like nearly 600 runs. He passed every test. Kohli and Anderson's personal battle - that dates back to India when Anderson challenged Kohli to make runs in England - Kohli won it. Anderson did not get him once all series. For Kohli, like so many great batsmen before him, has now passed every challenge, the question is solely now - how long will he keep it up for? When will he start to decline? And he poses a dilemma for the passionate Indian fan worship of Tendulkar. Because Kohli looks like he will, in odi least, seriously break a lot of records... Between you and me - if I had to choose between Tendulkar or Kohli to bat for my life, I think I would take Kohli based on what I saw this year... Not every challenge. Has yet to conquer the true OZ conditions.. pace and bounce. Probably never will as those decks have now gone the way of the dinosaur. Those 600 runs he scored in 14/15 were on roads. Even the WACA was hospitable. Like I say his only failure was on the bouncy Gabba. Pandya is a seam bowler.. his fivefor was in seaming conditions. So is Woakes. Admit Sharma swung the ball for the first time I can remember. But the Duke is very obliging. Woakes is very much a swing bowler in England and always has been... "My main attribute was my ability to swing the ball and I didn't want to lose that. It's been over a period of about three years and it's good to see the rewards." https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/29209380Toby Roland Jones and Mark Wood are the seamers. Pandya very much swung it for his five for - (with 2 short ball wickets - 3 with swing) I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vFIEwKbIqAHere is day 2 of the 3rd test - you will see Stuart Broad (who is not a swing bowler) hooping it... Anderson is hooping it - Sharma is getting it to induck biggg time... 2.15 - Pandya bowls - even Gower commentates on the swing... 2;35 Gets Bairstow's wicket a swinging ball... 3:00 gentle outswinger for Pant to take the catch 3;10 Pandya gets broad with a lethal inswinger...
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Why are some state coaches not supporting NPS scholars in making the next step in their careers. David Grant is a promising bowler but he has played just 4 FC matches in two years. His numbers in FL have been more than respectable without being brilliant while he has always acquitted himself well for CAX1 sides. But the kid.. actually he is now 23..has to be given some confidence that he has the game to reach the next level and beyond. Being stuck in the lower tier he appears to have been forgotten by the SACA selectors. Luckily CA still rates him. This r/a seamer is good. I saw him give Hashim Amla a real workout before shattering his stumps with a pearler. He took a coupla more Saffer wickets that day if memory serves. He would have been 20 then. At that stage he should have been given a decent run in FC cricket to cement his position.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it. This home advantage is unfair for Oz because we cant reciprocate as we no longer have traditional Oz tracks. That is hard, bouncy decks with some (1) lateral movement for quality quicks like Hazlewood. Most of our recent Test decks have been drop in roads. It was these we dished up 4 years ago to Kohli and Rahane..and they feasted on them. The only time Kohli failed was on the bouncy Gabba. (2) India did not have traditional decks on which to bat last time they toured England . The UK was going thru a heatwave (3) and the tracks were more like here in Oz than England. (4)That was why he prospered. Give him the (5)t raditional, damp, overcast English conditions where swing and lateral movement is prominent and he comes back to the field as was proven on the previous tour. So our only chance to provide a home advantage with the day/nite Adelaide Test was stymied by the BCCI. CA should have showed some intestinal fortitude. (6) Who schedules the Tests.. the hosts. Is that correct? (1) For lateral movement, I'll take Kumar, Shami and Bumrah over Hazelwood. (2) Those England conditions were swinging around corners, like England has done forever... See Woakes and Curran let alone Anderson... (3) No England swung around corners, all the England batsmen were sucking to swing - bar Curran who scored at a series winning average of 36.5.(4) No Kohli prospered because despite his entire team sucking, he scored centuries. It was brilliant batting in the worst conditions. Easily the best batsman by a mile of both teams. (in both SA and Eng). (5) It swung so much in England, the English bowlers were putting their keys in the bowl... (6) A contract requires an offer and acceptance. It needs to be agreed. You seem to be in an imaginary land. Kohli in the worst batting conditions ever, outshone ABdV and Amla (and everyone else) in SA, and Cook, Root, Curran and all the England team in England in the worst swinging conditions ever. You seem to be in denial. The Indian mistake was waiting too long to call up Pant ahead of Karthik. Could have changed the series entirely... #seriously... Aus may win in Australia this year. Because Indian bowlers lack pace. But to try and say it was not swinging in England this year is just imaginary and laughable. How else did I Sharma - the worst bowler to tour Australia - rip the England team apart? You're dreaming Baggers... Just dreaming... Kohli ripped it up in SA and Eng (his batsmen in the top order did not stand by him) - and there's no way Jimmy took all those Indian wickets in AUs like conditions... That's just laughable. Jimmy sucks in Australia - he rules in swing. And it was swinging. Just look at the wickets S Curran (a 10 pace trundler swinger took). (He really sucked in NZ last summer without swing - watched it myself). Where is this post going? Who or what are you trying to attack? Kohli? I watched a good spell of the series. It was a jekyll and hyde type series.. lowish scores first two tests with swinging conditions. last three produced far larger scores which suggests batting conditions had improved due to the heatwave hitting hard on the decks and drying them.. even parching them. I recall the comm saying these are very un English conditions. This was when Kohli really thrived and the wickets from swing dropped.. replaced by spin. We all know Indians feast on spin. I dont deny Kohli is India's premier batsman.. what I am saying is he is vulnerable to the moving ball.. and the steepling ball. I disagree - with respect.
1st test - Kohli scores 200 runs in a shoot out of a match. Ball is hooping with swing.2nd test - India rolled over. Woakes gets a century, and its game over.. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119550/england-vs-india-2nd-test-ind-in-eng-20183rd test - Pandya gets a 5/for in a 6 over spell. That is how much the ball was swinging. England were thrashed. Kohli scores 200 runs again. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119551/england-vs-india-3rd-test-ind-in-eng-20184th test - Shami had the ball hooping around corners. Ali recalled to the team - sliced through India bowling into the footmarks given to him by the Indian seamers who had swinging it from around the wicket. Kohli again makes runs as India are obliterated. Swing bowler Curran gets him with a ball across him in the first (Kohli plays for inswing), Ali gets him with spin in the second. This I might add - was selection genius to recall Ali. Because Shami and Sharma had been bowling around the wicket a lot. Suddenly there was a big rough patch outside the off stump for a right handed batsman. Ali just kept firing the ball at it - and it spun like it was an Indian dustbowl but variably so. This causes Ashwin to get dropped, because he was unable to replicate it. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119552/england-vs-india-4th-test-ind-in-eng-20185th test did have better batting conditions. I agree. Kohli makes a duck :P England had already won the series and was farewelling Cook - who had failed all series till he makes a final farewell 70 and 140 odd century. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119553/england-vs-india-5th-test-ind-in-eng-2018in my opinion, Kohli was the best batsman I have seen play in England for a very long time this year, and easily the best on show in South Africa this year by a mile. And of course he is good in Asia. And the last time in Aus he scored like nearly 600 runs. He passed every test. Kohli and Anderson's personal battle - that dates back to India when Anderson challenged Kohli to make runs in England - Kohli won it. Anderson did not get him once all series. For Kohli, like so many great batsmen before him, has now passed every challenge, the question is solely now - how long will he keep it up for? When will he start to decline? And he poses a dilemma for the passionate Indian fan worship of Tendulkar. Because Kohli looks like he will, in odi least, seriously break a lot of records... Between you and me - if I had to choose between Tendulkar or Kohli to bat for my life, I think I would take Kohli based on what I saw this year... Not every challenge. Has yet to conquer the true OZ conditions.. pace and bounce. Probably never will as those decks have now gone the way of the dinosaur. Those 600 runs he scored in 14/15 were on roads. Even the WACA was hospitable. Like I say his only failure was on the bouncy Gabba. Pandya is a seam bowler.. his fivefor was in seaming conditions. So is Woakes. Admit Sharma swung the ball for the first time I can remember. But the Duke is very obliging.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it. This home advantage is unfair for Oz because we cant reciprocate as we no longer have traditional Oz tracks. That is hard, bouncy decks with some (1) lateral movement for quality quicks like Hazlewood. Most of our recent Test decks have been drop in roads. It was these we dished up 4 years ago to Kohli and Rahane..and they feasted on them. The only time Kohli failed was on the bouncy Gabba. (2) India did not have traditional decks on which to bat last time they toured England . The UK was going thru a heatwave (3) and the tracks were more like here in Oz than England. (4)That was why he prospered. Give him the (5)t raditional, damp, overcast English conditions where swing and lateral movement is prominent and he comes back to the field as was proven on the previous tour. So our only chance to provide a home advantage with the day/nite Adelaide Test was stymied by the BCCI. CA should have showed some intestinal fortitude. (6) Who schedules the Tests.. the hosts. Is that correct? (1) For lateral movement, I'll take Kumar, Shami and Bumrah over Hazelwood. (2) Those England conditions were swinging around corners, like England has done forever... See Woakes and Curran let alone Anderson... (3) No England swung around corners, all the England batsmen were sucking to swing - bar Curran who scored at a series winning average of 36.5.(4) No Kohli prospered because despite his entire team sucking, he scored centuries. It was brilliant batting in the worst conditions. Easily the best batsman by a mile of both teams. (in both SA and Eng). (5) It swung so much in England, the English bowlers were putting their keys in the bowl... (6) A contract requires an offer and acceptance. It needs to be agreed. You seem to be in an imaginary land. Kohli in the worst batting conditions ever, outshone ABdV and Amla (and everyone else) in SA, and Cook, Root, Curran and all the England team in England in the worst swinging conditions ever. You seem to be in denial. The Indian mistake was waiting too long to call up Pant ahead of Karthik. Could have changed the series entirely... #seriously... Aus may win in Australia this year. Because Indian bowlers lack pace. But to try and say it was not swinging in England this year is just imaginary and laughable. How else did I Sharma - the worst bowler to tour Australia - rip the England team apart? You're dreaming Baggers... Just dreaming... Kohli ripped it up in SA and Eng (his batsmen in the top order did not stand by him) - and there's no way Jimmy took all those Indian wickets in AUs like conditions... That's just laughable. Jimmy sucks in Australia - he rules in swing. And it was swinging. Just look at the wickets S Curran (a 10 pace trundler swinger took). (He really sucked in NZ last summer without swing - watched it myself). Where is this post going? Who or what are you trying to attack? Kohli? I watched a good spell of the series. It was a jekyll and hyde type series.. lowish scores first two tests with swinging conditions. last three produced far larger scores which suggests batting conditions had improved due to the heatwave hitting hard on the decks and drying them.. even parching them. I recall the comm saying these are very un English conditions. This was when Kohli really thrived and the wickets from swing dropped.. replaced by spin. We all know Indians feast on spin. I dont deny Kohli is India's premier batsman.. what I am saying is he is vulnerable to the moving ball.. and the steepling ball. I disagree - with respect.
1st test - Kohli scores 200 runs in a shoot out of a match. Ball is hooping with swing.2nd test - India rolled over. Woakes gets a century, and its game over.. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119550/england-vs-india-2nd-test-ind-in-eng-20183rd test - Pandya gets a 5/for in a 6 over spell. That is how much the ball was swinging. England were thrashed. Kohli scores 200 runs again. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119551/england-vs-india-3rd-test-ind-in-eng-20184th test - Shami had the ball hooping around corners. Ali recalled to the team - sliced through India bowling into the footmarks given to him by the Indian seamers who had swinging it from around the wicket. Kohli again makes runs as India are obliterated. Swing bowler Curran gets him with a ball across him in the first (Kohli plays for inswing), Ali gets him with spin in the second. This I might add - was selection genius to recall Ali. Because Shami and Sharma had been bowling around the wicket a lot. Suddenly there was a big rough patch outside the off stump for a right handed batsman. Ali just kept firing the ball at it - and it spun like it was an Indian dustbowl but variably so. This causes Ashwin to get dropped, because he was unable to replicate it. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119552/england-vs-india-4th-test-ind-in-eng-20185th test did have better batting conditions. I agree. Kohli makes a duck :P England had already won the series and was farewelling Cook - who had failed all series till he makes a final farewell 70 and 140 odd century. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119553/england-vs-india-5th-test-ind-in-eng-2018in my opinion, Kohli was the best batsman I have seen play in England for a very long time this year, and easily the best on show in South Africa this year by a mile. And of course he is good in Asia. And the last time in Aus he scored like nearly 600 runs. He passed every test. Kohli and Anderson's personal battle - that dates back to India when Anderson challenged Kohli to make runs in England - Kohli won it. Anderson did not get him once all series. For Kohli, like so many great batsmen before him, has now passed every challenge, the question is solely now - how long will he keep it up for? When will he start to decline? And he poses a dilemma for the passionate Indian fan worship of Tendulkar. Because Kohli looks like he will, in odi least, seriously break a lot of records... Between you and me - if I had to choose between Tendulkar or Kohli to bat for my life, I think I would take Kohli based on what I saw this year... Not every challenge. Has yet to conquer the true OZ conditions.. pace and bounce. Probably never will as those decks have now gone the way of the dinosaur. Those 600 runs he scored in 14/15 were on roads. Even the WACA was hospitable. Like I say his only failure was on the bouncy Gabba.
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+x+x+x+x+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it. This home advantage is unfair for Oz because we cant reciprocate as we no longer have traditional Oz tracks. That is hard, bouncy decks with some (1) lateral movement for quality quicks like Hazlewood. Most of our recent Test decks have been drop in roads. It was these we dished up 4 years ago to Kohli and Rahane..and they feasted on them. The only time Kohli failed was on the bouncy Gabba. (2) India did not have traditional decks on which to bat last time they toured England . The UK was going thru a heatwave (3) and the tracks were more like here in Oz than England. (4)That was why he prospered. Give him the (5)t raditional, damp, overcast English conditions where swing and lateral movement is prominent and he comes back to the field as was proven on the previous tour. So our only chance to provide a home advantage with the day/nite Adelaide Test was stymied by the BCCI. CA should have showed some intestinal fortitude. (6) Who schedules the Tests.. the hosts. Is that correct? (1) For lateral movement, I'll take Kumar, Shami and Bumrah over Hazelwood. (2) Those England conditions were swinging around corners, like England has done forever... See Woakes and Curran let alone Anderson... (3) No England swung around corners, all the England batsmen were sucking to swing - bar Curran who scored at a series winning average of 36.5.(4) No Kohli prospered because despite his entire team sucking, he scored centuries. It was brilliant batting in the worst conditions. Easily the best batsman by a mile of both teams. (in both SA and Eng). (5) It swung so much in England, the English bowlers were putting their keys in the bowl... (6) A contract requires an offer and acceptance. It needs to be agreed. You seem to be in an imaginary land. Kohli in the worst batting conditions ever, outshone ABdV and Amla (and everyone else) in SA, and Cook, Root, Curran and all the England team in England in the worst swinging conditions ever. You seem to be in denial. The Indian mistake was waiting too long to call up Pant ahead of Karthik. Could have changed the series entirely... #seriously... Aus may win in Australia this year. Because Indian bowlers lack pace. But to try and say it was not swinging in England this year is just imaginary and laughable. How else did I Sharma - the worst bowler to tour Australia - rip the England team apart? You're dreaming Baggers... Just dreaming... Kohli ripped it up in SA and Eng (his batsmen in the top order did not stand by him) - and there's no way Jimmy took all those Indian wickets in AUs like conditions... That's just laughable. Jimmy sucks in Australia - he rules in swing. And it was swinging. Just look at the wickets S Curran (a 10 pace trundler swinger took). (He really sucked in NZ last summer without swing - watched it myself). Where is this post going? Who or what are you trying to attack? Kohli? I watched a good spell of the series. It was a jekyll and hyde type series.. lowish scores first two tests with swinging conditions. last three produced far larger scores which suggests batting conditions had improved due to the heatwave hitting hard on the decks and drying them.. even parching them. I recall the comm saying these are very un English conditions. This was when Kohli really thrived and the wickets from swing dropped.. replaced by spin. We all know Indians feast on spin. I dont deny Kohli is India's premier batsman.. what I am saying is he is vulnerable to the moving ball.. and the steepling ball. I disagree - with respect.
1st test - Kohli scores 200 runs in a shoot out of a match. Ball is hooping with swing.2nd test - India rolled over. Woakes gets a century, and its game over.. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119550/england-vs-india-2nd-test-ind-in-eng-20183rd test - Pandya gets a 5/for in a 6 over spell. That is how much the ball was swinging. England were thrashed. Kohli scores 200 runs again. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119551/england-vs-india-3rd-test-ind-in-eng-20184th test - Shami had the ball hooping around corners. Ali recalled to the team - sliced through India bowling into the footmarks given to him by the Indian seamers who had swinging it from around the wicket. Kohli again makes runs as India are obliterated. Swing bowler Curran gets him with a ball across him in the first (Kohli plays for inswing), Ali gets him with spin in the second. This I might add - was selection genius to recall Ali. Because Shami and Sharma had been bowling around the wicket a lot. Suddenly there was a big rough patch outside the off stump for a right handed batsman. Ali just kept firing the ball at it - and it spun like it was an Indian dustbowl but variably so. This causes Ashwin to get dropped, because he was unable to replicate it. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119552/england-vs-india-4th-test-ind-in-eng-20185th test did have better batting conditions. I agree. Kohli makes a duck :P England had already won the series and was farewelling Cook - who had failed all series till he makes a final farewell 70 and 140 odd century. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18018/scorecard/1119553/england-vs-india-5th-test-ind-in-eng-2018in my opinion, Kohli was the best batsman I have seen play in England for a very long time this year, and easily the best on show in South Africa this year by a mile. And of course he is good in Asia. And the last time in Aus he scored like nearly 600 runs. He passed every test. Kohli and Anderson's personal battle - that dates back to India when Anderson challenged Kohli to make runs in England - Kohli won it. Anderson did not get him once all series. For Kohli, like so many great batsmen before him, has now passed every challenge, the question is solely now - how long will he keep it up for? When will he start to decline? And he poses a dilemma for the passionate Indian fan worship of Tendulkar. Because Kohli looks like he will, in odi least, seriously break a lot of records... Between you and me - if I had to choose between Tendulkar or Kohli to bat for my life, I think I would take Kohli based on what I saw this year...
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+xThe SCG decks has a decided greenish tinge to it after the deluge last two days. Are these CAX1 bowlers up to exploiting any movement there is? I am backing David Grant to. This Aaron Summers is supposed to have some heat about his bowling. Pity he does not accuracy to go with it.
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The SCG decks has a decided greenish tinge to it after the deluge last two days. Are these CAX1 bowlers up to exploiting any movement there is? I am backing David Grant to.
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+x+x+x+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it. This home advantage is unfair for Oz because we cant reciprocate as we no longer have traditional Oz tracks. That is hard, bouncy decks with some (1) lateral movement for quality quicks like Hazlewood. Most of our recent Test decks have been drop in roads. It was these we dished up 4 years ago to Kohli and Rahane..and they feasted on them. The only time Kohli failed was on the bouncy Gabba. (2) India did not have traditional decks on which to bat last time they toured England . The UK was going thru a heatwave (3) and the tracks were more like here in Oz than England. (4)That was why he prospered. Give him the (5)t raditional, damp, overcast English conditions where swing and lateral movement is prominent and he comes back to the field as was proven on the previous tour. So our only chance to provide a home advantage with the day/nite Adelaide Test was stymied by the BCCI. CA should have showed some intestinal fortitude. (6) Who schedules the Tests.. the hosts. Is that correct? (1) For lateral movement, I'll take Kumar, Shami and Bumrah over Hazelwood. (2) Those England conditions were swinging around corners, like England has done forever... See Woakes and Curran let alone Anderson... (3) No England swung around corners, all the England batsmen were sucking to swing - bar Curran who scored at a series winning average of 36.5.(4) No Kohli prospered because despite his entire team sucking, he scored centuries. It was brilliant batting in the worst conditions. Easily the best batsman by a mile of both teams. (in both SA and Eng). (5) It swung so much in England, the English bowlers were putting their keys in the bowl... (6) A contract requires an offer and acceptance. It needs to be agreed. You seem to be in an imaginary land. Kohli in the worst batting conditions ever, outshone ABdV and Amla (and everyone else) in SA, and Cook, Root, Curran and all the England team in England in the worst swinging conditions ever. You seem to be in denial. The Indian mistake was waiting too long to call up Pant ahead of Karthik. Could have changed the series entirely... #seriously... Aus may win in Australia this year. Because Indian bowlers lack pace. But to try and say it was not swinging in England this year is just imaginary and laughable. How else did I Sharma - the worst bowler to tour Australia - rip the England team apart? You're dreaming Baggers... Just dreaming... Kohli ripped it up in SA and Eng (his batsmen in the top order did not stand by him) - and there's no way Jimmy took all those Indian wickets in AUs like conditions... That's just laughable. Jimmy sucks in Australia - he rules in swing. And it was swinging. Just look at the wickets S Curran (a 10 pace trundler swinger took). (He really sucked in NZ last summer without swing - watched it myself). Where is this post going? Who or what are you trying to attack? Kohli? I watched a good spell of the series. It was a jekyll and hyde type series.. lowish scores first two tests with swinging conditions. last three produced far larger scores which meant batting conditions had improved due to the heatwave hitting hard on the decks and drying them.. even parching them. I recall the comms saying these are very un English conditions. This was when Kohli really thrived. By this time your trundler Curran had stopped swinging the ball. Anderson can swing the ball in his sleep.. but even was not as effective as earlier matches. Most wickets then fell to seam or spin. I dont deny Kohli is India's premier batsman.. what I am saying is he is vulnerable to the moving ball.. and the steepling ball.
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+x+x+xI am pretty sure India wont pick blokes with dodgy techniques. Neither should we with Handscomb. Did not know this for sure. But India has yet to win a series in Oz since they gained independence. Eleven attemps in fact.. only drawn three times. Even our record in India is better than that. This must weigh heavily on them when they arrive on our shores. Australia the last frontier. Without the phenomenal Smith this time round..India has probably its best chance to finally crack the duck. So it is imperative that Australia picks in form batsmen and not on reputation or incumbency. Based on this criteria.. my batting squad. Alex Doolan Marcus Harris Usman Khawaja Aaron Finch Tom Cooper Will Bosisto Reserves: Mitch Marsh (a/r), Marnus Labuchagne/Dan Hughes/Jake Lehmann/Sam Heazlett. I am adding Matthew Wade to that list. You picked 11 players for 5 spots not including MMarsh as the undeniable A/R since Kallis, Sobers and Miller... No I have not. I read 6 plus Mitch Marsh as reserve batsman/bowler. The remainder I bracketed. Choose one specialist bat from the list. You love being objectionable Paddles. Heh - but objectively so... :-) I am more than happy to agree as well. But after many, oh so many years of NZC and ECB suffering so many, oh so many bits and pieces cricketers... There are more than one or two NZC and ECB fans quite enjoying the Mitch Marsh situation among Australian fans. His brother and the Langer coach thing just tips it off. For the best part of two decades Australian cricket just dominated with an endless glut of talent. But now you're getting a few ideas of what it is like to have been a NZC or ECB fan in the 1990's. It was not easy going. :P Supporting in the bewilderment of "is this really the best cricketer in the country for this position?" When a player's all-round stats would come up on screen - and Lawry or Chappeli would say "what is he?" .... and someone else would say "geee - he must be good in the field or something".... and the Aussie fan would go as far to say... "why does your team pick so many no-rounders?"... So trust me, NZC and ECB fans are going to give a little bit back re: M Marsh...
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The India tour match is underway as the showers have now cleared from Sydney. Not in my neck of the wood tho. Still very overcast here in the south.
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+x+xI am pretty sure India wont pick blokes with dodgy techniques. Neither should we with Handscomb. Did not know this for sure. But India has yet to win a series in Oz since they gained independence. Eleven attemps in fact.. only drawn three times. Even our record in India is better than that. This must weigh heavily on them when they arrive on our shores. Australia the last frontier. Without the phenomenal Smith this time round..India has probably its best chance to finally crack the duck. So it is imperative that Australia picks in form batsmen and not on reputation or incumbency. Based on this criteria.. my batting squad. Alex Doolan Marcus Harris Usman Khawaja Aaron Finch Tom Cooper Will Bosisto Reserves: Mitch Marsh (a/r), Marnus Labuchagne/Dan Hughes/Jake Lehmann/Sam Heazlett. I am adding Matthew Wade to that list. You picked 11 players for 5 spots not including MMarsh as the undeniable A/R since Kallis, Sobers and Miller... No I have not. I read 6 plus Mitch Marsh as reserve batsman/bowler. The remainder I bracketed. Choose one specialist bat from the list. You love being objectionable Paddles.
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+xI am pretty sure India wont pick blokes with dodgy techniques. Neither should we with Handscomb. Did not know this for sure. But India has yet to win a series in Oz since they gained independence. Eleven attemps in fact.. only drawn three times. Even our record in India is better than that. This must weigh heavily on them when they arrive on our shores. Australia the last frontier. Without the phenomenal Smith this time round..India has probably its best chance to finally crack the duck. So it is imperative that Australia picks in form batsmen and not on reputation or incumbency. Based on this criteria.. my batting squad. Alex Doolan Marcus Harris Usman Khawaja Aaron Finch Tom Cooper Will Bosisto Reserves: Mitch Marsh (a/r), Marnus Labuchagne/Dan Hughes/Jake Lehmann/Sam Heazlett. I am adding Matthew Wade to that list. You picked 11 players for 5 spots not including MMarsh as the undeniable A/R since Kallis, Sobers and Miller...
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| POS | PLAYER | CURRENT TEAM | INN | RUNS | AVG | SR | 4s | 6s |
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| 1 | Virat Kohli | India | 10 | 593 | 59.30 | 57.85 | 67 | 1 | | 2 | Jos Buttler | England | 9 | 349 | 38.78 | 67.77 | 44 | 4 | | 3 | Alastair Cook | England | 9 | 327 | 36.33 | 45.54 | 39 | - | | 4 | Joe Root | England | 9 | 319 | 35.44 | 52.47 | 34 | 1 | | 5 | Lokesh Rahul | India | 10 | 299 | 29.90 | 66.44 | 44 | 1 | | 6 | Cheteshwar Pujara | India | 8 | 278 | 39.71 | 38.29 | 33 | - | | 7 | Sam Curran | England | 7 | 272 | 38.86 | 62.39 | 32 | 5 | | 8 | Ajinkya Rahane | India | 10 | 257 | 25.70 | 40.22 | 27 | - | | 9 | Jonny Bairstow | England | 9 | 230 | 25.56 | 63.54 | 32 | - | | 10 | Ben Stokes | England | 8 | 200 | 25.00 | 38.54 | 22 | 1 | | 11 | Hardik Pandya | India | 8 | 164 | 23.43 | 56.94 | 26 | 1 | | 12 | Keaton Jennings | England | 9 | 163 | 18.11 | 40.25 | 18 | - | | 13 | Rishabh Pant | India | 6 | 162 | 27.00 | 64.29 | 20 | 6 | | 14 | Shikhar Dhawan | India | 8 | 162 | 20.25 | 55.48 | 23 | - |
This is how far ahead Kohli was to the rest of the batsmen. He averaged 59. And this is how much it was swinging... | POS | PLAYER | CURRENT TEAM | MATCH | INNS | ECO | AVG | SR |
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| 1 | James Anderson | England | 5 | 10 | 2.37 | 18.12 | 45.92 | | 2 | Ravichandran Ashwin | India | 4 | 7 | 2.58 | 32.73 | 76.18 | | 3 | Jasprit Bumrah | India | 3 | 6 | 2.72 | 25.93 | 57.14 | | 4 | Chris Woakes | England | 2 | 4 | 2.88 | 20.88 | 43.50 | | 5 | Ishant Sharma | India | 5 | 9 | 2.89 | 24.28 | 50.33 | | 6 | Stuart Broad | England | 5 | 10 | 3.13 | 29.69 | 56.94 | | 7 | Umesh Yadav | India | 1 | 2 | 3.17 | 25.33 | 48.00 | | 8 | Moeen Ali | England | 2 | 4 | 3.32 | 21.00 | 38.00 | | 9 | Sam Curran | England | 4 | 8 | 3.33 | 23.55 | 42.36 | | 10 | Ravindra Jadeja | India | 1 | 2 | 3.35 | 36.86 | 66.00 |
Notice Anderson, Woakes, Sharma and Curran... Even Pandya got a 5/for in a 6 over spell! | POS | PLAYER | CURRENT TEAM | OVS | WKTS | RUNS | MAIDENS | ECON | VS |
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| 1 | James Anderson | England | 13.2 | 5 | 20 | 5 | 1.52 | India | | 2 | Hardik Pandya | India | 6.0 | 5 | 28 | 1 | 4.67 | England | | 3 | Ishant Sharma | India | 13.0 | 5 | 51 | - | 3.92 | England | | 4 | Moeen Ali | England | 16.0 | 5 | 63 | 1 | 3.94 | India | | 5 | Jasprit Bumrah | India | 29.0 | 5 | 85 | 8 | 2.93 | England | | 6 | James Anderson | England | 12.0 | 4 | 23 | 5 | 1.92 | India | | 7 | Ben Stokes | England | 14.2 | 4 | 40 | 2 | 2.82 | India | | 8 | Stuart Broad | England | 16.0 | 4 | 44 | 6 | 2.75 | India | | 9 | Mohammed Shami | India | 16.0 | 4 | 57 | - | 3.56 | England | | 10 | Ravichandran Ashwin | India | 26.0 | 4 | 62 | 7 | 2.38 | England |
South Africa was even worse... | POS | PLAYER | CURRENT TEAM | INN | RUNS | AVG | SR | 4s | 6s |
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| 1 | Virat Kohli | India | 6 | 286 | 47.67 | 60.21 | 35 | - | | 2 | AB de Villiers | South Africa | 6 | 211 | 35.17 | 62.99 | 26 | 2 | | 3 | Dean Elgar | South Africa | 6 | 207 | 41.40 | 38.26 | 25 | 2 | | 4 | Hashim Amla | South Africa | 6 | 203 | 33.83 | 45.21 | 27 | - | | 5 | Faf du Plessis | South Africa | 6 | 183 | 30.50 | 43.57 | 26 | - | | 6 | Aiden Markram | South Africa | 6 | 140 | 23.33 | 61.67 | 24 | - | | 7 | Hardik Pandya | India | 6 | 119 | 19.83 | 68.79 | 16 | 1 | | 8 | Murali Vijay | India | 6 | 102 | 17.00 | 28.41 | 11 | - | | 9 | Bhuvneshwar Kumar | India | 4 | 101 | 33.67 | 40.08 | 11 | - | | 10 | Cheteshwar Pujara | India | 6 | 100 | 16.67 | 29.24 | 15 | - |
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| 1 | Ishant Sharma | India | 2 | 4 | 2.17 | 18.75 | 51.75 | | 2 | Vernon Philander | South Africa | 3 | 6 | 2.47 | 15.87 | 38.53 | | 3 | Morne Morkel | South Africa | 3 | 6 | 2.65 | 20.00 | 45.31 | | 4 | Ravichandran Ashwin | India | 2 | 4 | 2.81 | 30.71 | 65.57 | | 5 | Kagiso Rabada | South Africa | 3 | 6 | 2.91 | 20.27 | 41.73 | | 6 | Lungi Ngidi | South Africa | 2 | 4 | 2.91 | 17.22 | 35.56 | | 7 | Dale Steyn | South Africa | 1 | 1 | 2.91 | 25.50 | 52.50 | | 8 | Bhuvneshwar Kumar | India | 2 | 4 | 3.03 | 20.30 | 40.20 | | 9 | Mohammed Shami | India | 3 | 6 | 3.07 | 17.07 | 33.40 | | 10 | Jasprit Bumrah | India | 3 | 6 | 3.15 | 25.21 | 48.07 |
Just look at the seamer's bowling averages... Kohli is the complete package. He's proven and passed every test in world cricket. His batting team mates have not however. His batsmen have failed in Safrica and England. His bowlers however were a success. SAfrica and England's spicey and swinging conditions put a serious dent into the test careers of Vijay, Dhawan, Karthik and Rahul who were all dropped. One of them has to open with Shaw in the first test. But who will it be?
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I've been honest and candid with you from the get go.
Aus needs roads.
You will not beat India on swinging tracks.
No chance at all.
Swing these days is the reserve of Ind, Pak, Eng, SA and NZ - not AFL players... #no offence...
WI with the Dukes may join my lists (I will confirm after England tour)
But 6'6" AFL players throwing down 156grms at 145km/h into concrete - that is where Aus shines...
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+x+x+x+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it. This home advantage is unfair for Oz because we cant reciprocate as we no longer have traditional Oz tracks. That is hard, bouncy decks with some (1) lateral movement for quality quicks like Hazlewood. Most of our recent Test decks have been drop in roads. It was these we dished up 4 years ago to Kohli and Rahane..and they feasted on them. The only time Kohli failed was on the bouncy Gabba. (2) India did not have traditional decks on which to bat last time they toured England . The UK was going thru a heatwave (3) and the tracks were more like here in Oz than England. (4)That was why he prospered. Give him the (5)t raditional, damp, overcast English conditions where swing and lateral movement is prominent and he comes back to the field as was proven on the previous tour. So our only chance to provide a home advantage with the day/nite Adelaide Test was stymied by the BCCI. CA should have showed some intestinal fortitude. (6) Who schedules the Tests.. the hosts. Is that correct? (1) For lateral movement, I'll take Kumar, Shami and Bumrah over Hazelwood. (2) Those England conditions were swinging around corners, like England has done forever... See Woakes and Curran let alone Anderson... (3) No England swung around corners, all the England batsmen were sucking to swing - bar Curran who scored at a series winning average of 36.5.(4) No Kohli prospered because despite his entire team sucking, he scored centuries. It was brilliant batting in the worst conditions. Easily the best batsman by a mile of both teams. (in both SA and Eng). (5) It swung so much in England, the English bowlers were putting their keys in the bowl... (6) A contract requires an offer and acceptance. It needs to be agreed. You seem to be in an imaginary land. Kohli in the worst batting conditions ever, outshone ABdV and Amla (and everyone else) in SA, and Cook, Root, Curran and all the England team in England in the worst swinging conditions ever. You seem to be in denial. Aus may win in Australia this year. Because Indian bowlers lack pace. But to try and say it was not swinging in England this year is just imaginary and laughable. How else did I Sharma - the worst bowler to tour Australia - rip the England team apart? You're dreaming Baggers... Just dreaming... Kohli ripped it up in SA and Eng (his batsmen in the top order did not stand by him) - and there's no way Jimmy took all those Indian wickets in AUs like conditions... That's just laughable. Jimmy sucks in Australia - he rules in swing. And it was swining. Just look at the wickets S Curran (a 10 pace trundler swinger took). Where is this post going? Who or what are you trying to attack? Kohli? Aus can still beat in Ind in Aus. But stop trying to reinvent who was better in SA or England. It was India hands down. For batting and bowling... That is the truth... I'm not lying to you. Eng swung, SA was spicey, India pushed the games to the nth. In SA - ABdV rose, for England - S Curran rose and (C Woakes tonned up). Kohli was the best in both series.... I don't get what you're trying to get me to say? Do I think Ind, SA and Eng are better than Aus in SA and Eng - Yes - Yes I do. All day - every day. Even with Smith and Warner. The only question is - can India beat Aus on Aus Roads... I do not know... I really don't. Your pitches break seamers and swingers without tall bouncy pace and metronomic accuracy... But please don't tell me that 5th placed Australia is as good as 1st placed India in 2nd placed SA or 3rd placed Eng. Because I am not buying it... Because it predates the bans... TBF... This may be tough pill to swallow - but CA lost its wheels a long time ago for global fan. We have kinda gotten use to CA losing in Asia or England. It has been happening for so long... Baggers I will let you into a secret, since you failed to beat England since 2001 in Eng, since you drew in Bangladesh WITHA LOST TEST, were thrashed in SL, lost at home and away to SA, lost back to back in the UAE, and not won in India since Gilly, noone - I mean noone - really ranks CA away. At all. Australia's entire global rep is "flat track bully". Now this may be a bitter pill to swallow. But its been this way for a very long time now. CA is only respected on ROADS... That is where CA shines... Now you can't beat the king of swing England on roads since 2001. Personally I think NZC outswing England - but that is neither here nor there. SA - kings of seam (but Eng beat them there last during an SA injury crisis). And noone is going to nominate CA over Pak or Ind in spin... Ind probably win here seeing SL upset Pak... CA is known for roads. That is your domain. That is where your cricket is respected. Nowhere else. Not swing, not seam, not spin... Don't make claims of lateral movement with no ability to support it in the past 5 years or so... (MJ bounced SA when Aus won there the tour before last - not lateral movement...) It is what it is... #elitehonesty... CA is only feared in Australia. Outside Australia - its game on. You don't seem to get it... You're like India - but India beats SA at home... And pushed SA and Eng all the way away... Look at Mitch Marsh. Look at Shaun Marsh. Look at your "world class attack" and what they average of late... Aus is not feared as a tourist. It is embraced. CA dont't swing. They don't seam. And they don't spin. Aus is like 1990's India in its respect globally - it wins at home... Bar the last three SA tours and England in 2010/11...
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+x+x+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it. This home advantage is unfair for Oz because we cant reciprocate as we no longer have traditional Oz tracks. That is hard, bouncy decks with some (1) lateral movement for quality quicks like Hazlewood. Most of our recent Test decks have been drop in roads. It was these we dished up 4 years ago to Kohli and Rahane..and they feasted on them. The only time Kohli failed was on the bouncy Gabba. (2) India did not have traditional decks on which to bat last time they toured England . The UK was going thru a heatwave (3) and the tracks were more like here in Oz than England. (4)That was why he prospered. Give him the (5)t raditional, damp, overcast English conditions where swing and lateral movement is prominent and he comes back to the field as was proven on the previous tour. So our only chance to provide a home advantage with the day/nite Adelaide Test was stymied by the BCCI. CA should have showed some intestinal fortitude. (6) Who schedules the Tests.. the hosts. Is that correct? (1) For lateral movement, I'll take Kumar, Shami and Bumrah over Hazelwood. (2) Those England conditions were swinging around corners, like England has done forever... See Woakes and Curran let alone Anderson... (3) No England swung around corners, all the England batsmen were sucking to swing - bar Curran who scored at a series winning average of 36.5.(4) No Kohli prospered because despite his entire team sucking, he scored centuries. It was brilliant batting in the worst conditions. Easily the best batsman by a mile of both teams. (in both SA and Eng). (5) It swung so much in England, the English bowlers were putting their keys in the bowl... (6) A contract requires an offer and acceptance. It needs to be agreed. You seem to be in an imaginary land. Kohli in the worst batting conditions ever, outshone ABdV and Amla (and everyone else) in SA, and Cook, Root, Curran and all the England team in England in the worst swinging conditions ever. You seem to be in denial. The Indian mistake was waiting too long to call up Pant ahead of Karthik. Could have changed the series entirely... #seriously... Aus may win in Australia this year. Because Indian bowlers lack pace. But to try and say it was not swinging in England this year is just imaginary and laughable. How else did I Sharma - the worst bowler to tour Australia - rip the England team apart? You're dreaming Baggers... Just dreaming... Kohli ripped it up in SA and Eng (his batsmen in the top order did not stand by him) - and there's no way Jimmy took all those Indian wickets in AUs like conditions... That's just laughable. Jimmy sucks in Australia - he rules in swing. And it was swinging. Just look at the wickets S Curran (a 10 pace trundler swinger took). (He really sucked in NZ last summer without swing - watched it myself). Where is this post going? Who or what are you trying to attack? Kohli?
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+xYoure right. Was thinking Patterson was 27/28. Patterson is your 75,48,24, 88, 67, 31 type batsman. Add those and you have a fair average.
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Maxwell also averages 41 in first class but its also somehow not up there because he doesnt convert. Handscomb with back to back 50s in the shield should be palying a test next
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Youre right. Was thinking Patterson was 27/28.
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+x+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it. This home advantage is unfair for Oz because we cant reciprocate as we no longer have traditional Oz tracks. That is hard, bouncy decks with some lateral movement for quality quicks like Hazlewood. Most of our recent Test decks have been drop in roads. It was these we dished up 4 years ago to Kohli and Rahane..and they feasted on them. The only time Kohli failed was on the bouncy Gabba. India did not have traditional decks on which to bat last time they toured England . The UK was going thru a heatwave and the tracks were more like here in Oz than England. That was why he prospered. Give him the traditional, damp, overcast English conditions where swing and lateral movement is prominent and he comes back to the field as was proven on the previous tour. So our only chance to provide a home advantage with the day/nite Adelaide Test was stymied by the BCCI. CA should have showed some intestinal fortitude. Who schedules the Tests.. the hosts. Is that correct?
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+xHow are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies. CA and BCCI get along like two peas in a pod. CA beats India (and everyone bar Safrica) on roads with its fastmen, India beats CA (and everyone else) on dustbowls - further helped by the fact that they don't ever play Pakistan anymore. But when Bangladesh turn up in India - they get a fast bouncy track that had the ball carrying through like the Gabba. I still chuckle at this. I mean - India would probably beat Bangladesh in a dustbowl, but they knew that they'd thrash them on a fast bouncy Australian-type track. Preparing favourable tracks for home advantage is very universal. It has nothing to do with kow towing. England keeps its greenies for swing bowlers. Bangladesh and SL dustbowl it. Safrica spice it up for swing and seam. WI has just gone to greenie swing and Dukes after years of failing with spinning tracks... It is all about home advantage. Nothing to do with helping Kohli's average. That guy just scored runs in Eng and SA on the worst pitches imaginable. He is like ABdV - he just finds a way to make runs when the rest of team is disintegrating around him. I personally think NZ should green it up like England, but NZC is more timid. 4 tests in 2 years will do that to a Board. Now where BCCI bent CA over and smacked its bottom in dictating terms was over the Day/Night test at Adelaide with its "no thanks - we'll play in the day time". Which I have to day is incredibly daft of BCCI - because this is when conditions would have been more favourable for them. That said, they were worried about the pink ball and Australia's greater pink-ball experience. They would have seen Aus had won all its day night tests and thought - not worth it.
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How are relations between CA and BCCI? This may sour them. Hoping CA has stopped kow towing to them and will now produce decks that dont boost Kohli and co's averages. India is now top of the pile so no freebies.
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+xThere is nothing in that report about India being upset about it... India as I read elsewhere is going to play its entire squad of 18 making sure it has no FC status and simply use it as an outdoor net... You meant the complaint URL. I heard it the other day and it was confirmed in this mornings Telegraph.
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There is nothing in that report about India being upset about it... India as I read elsewhere is going to play its entire squad of 18 making sure it has no FC status and simply use it as an outdoor net...
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Rain has delayed play the SCG. Even the Super Sopper will have its work cut out if we are see any play today.
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+x+xWe may get some play in the tour match at the SCG today. There has been severe thunderstorms in Sydney overnite and this morning but the forecast is for some drying sun from about midday. I did say this yesterday . Evidently India/BCCI is seething over the quality of the opposition for this tour game. I said it was an insult to the #1 ranked side .. and it is. Gotta url for this? http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/25338553/sam-whiteman-lead-inexperienced-ca-xi-india
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+xWe may get some play in the tour match at the SCG today. There has been severe thunderstorms in Sydney overnite and this morning but the forecast is for some drying sun from about midday. I did say this yesterday . Evidently India/BCCI is seething over the quality of the opposition for this tour game. I said it was an insult to the #1 ranked side .. and it is. Gotta url for this?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xRicky Pointing has placed his support behind Finch opening the batting. Why Ricky when Finch averages @18 opening in FC cricket? Seam expert Kumar says he thrives on opening the bowling against r/h batsmen. His record backs up this. He strikes at under 20 against r/hs compared to hi 30s against l/hs. Kumar is way to slow to bowl on roads... He needs something in the deck to exploit. Finch will pummel him on a road imo. Would not most of his bowling be on Asian roads? No. He has only played 11 of 21 tests in Asia, and bowled far more overs outside of Asia than inside Asia. :P Also India roads up far far less often than Australia does. When they leave something in the pitch for the seamers - often like when Sri Lanka or Bangladesh tours, Kumar and Shami often used to get a call up. India tricked NZC doing this in 2016 in the 2nd test. NZ played a long tail to accommodate spinners when it was the seamers on both sides wrecking havoc until the last day. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/10716/scorecard/1030215/india-vs-new-zealand-2nd-test-nz-tour-of-india-2016-17The Indian curators have mastered pitch creation... they can create anything they want over there, including bouncy pitches... The last pitch Bangladesh got in India looked it had been extracted from the GABBA. If there is no lateral movement in it for the seamers in India, U Yadav typically plays. Bumrah is now a spanner in the works of the combos cos he seems to be a complete conditions bowler. Also Kumar is bowling much slower now than he used to. Kumar is like their Safrica and England specialist for seam and swing pitches (that are not roads). And they and the fans missed him in England this year to see where he is at with swing as against Jimmy. Kumar knows how to get lateral movement. He isn't some tall guy just banging it in the road day at 145km/h. He is more subtle and looks to exploit swing and seam. He plays a lot of odi and t20 for India because he has a good yorker and slower ball variations. Kumar will be eaten alive on Aussie roads imo. He is very skilled. But not fast. I do not think he is fast enough for Aussie roads where there is no lateral movement to extract. It will be like watching Boult, Anderson or Philander struggling. Aus roads need pacier men with height to get the trajectory for bounce. Even Shami I fear may be too skiddy for Australia. I'd still give him a try at some stage, but he is a swing bowler also. The Indian attack hinges around what seamers with inswingers Bumrah, ISharma with bounce bowler Yadav can do to Finch, Khawaja, and SMarsh - and then try and get the middle order to collapse. Still - with the current Aus batting line-up - anything is possible... Also I read you criticized Finch's playing of spin, tbh - Finch despite concrete feet, is very adept at slapping the spinners through the on side at will. Not much sweeping, not much foot movement, but he gets a lot of easy singles and twos and can find the boundary when he wants. Finch has a lot of IPL runs batting in the middle order against the spinners. He is more than useful against top quality spin bowling. It doesn't always look great, but is effective. A touch harsh perhaps on Finchy. He survived batting time against spin in the UAE. Never seen him in IPL but I saw him in these T20s and he looked all at sea. But as you say looks can be deceptive.. Finch's nemesis is outswing/outseam starting on off stump, and in/swing, in/seam starting on 4th stump (offside). That is when his concrete fail him. He makes no attempt to get his pad out of line for the inball - and does not follow the outball (same foot movement would achieve both). On the flat, and against the spinners, he is better than people think. He actually picks it from the hand and plays for the spin. He hasn't scored all his odi and t20i runs by being a total muppet like many Aussie fans suggest he is. His concrete feet make him look worse than he is. Him playing spinners is rather funny, and yes - looks are deceptive. He looks ungainly - but he makes contact cos he picks the delivery type and scores runs. When he loses his eye, he's stuffed as he has no technique. But - he has not lost his eye yet... And you really should watch some IPL, England games, India games, SA games, just to see what the world is upto besides Australia and how people play in foreign conditions... It really is enjoyable to follow and watch... I followed the BBL before IPL - but for the past 4 or 5 years, the BBL drop off has been huge to the point the last few years I have not followed it much at all... The IPL however, isn't bad at all. My major criticism of the IPL is the low standard of fielding. Sure - the imports like Boult take rippers, but for the Indian domestic players - a much lower standard. Like its Benny Hill-esque at times. But the bowling and batting - not too shabby at all.. The 4 imports per team really helps on the death bowling beyond Kumar and Bumrah. Mustafizur, Bravo, Malinga, Starc formerly, and many more. And of course the batting of ABdV and Jos Buttler et al is always a treat, then Warner and KW, let alone the Indian batsmen. David Warner is a force in the IPL. He just controls chases so well. Smith much much much less so. Smith lets the run rate get out of all control and stuffs things up. This said, Warner's team has had the luxury of intl stars like Kumar (ind), R Khan (Afg), Mustafizur (Bng), M Nabi (Afg), Shakib Al Hasan (Bng), S Kaul (ind), C Jordan (eng)and more like even Braitwaite (WI), Boult (NZ) and Stanlake (Aus) in recent years - so chasing may look easier for a reason... But you may not recognize all these names... But I will tell you one thing, Tom Moody is an amazing coach... I rate Tom the best coach in world cricket right now... And Bayliss isn't going along too badly and permitted Frabraze to continue with the extreme England ODI style... Mickey Arthur has shown with Pakistan that perhaps Aussies were too swift to dismiss him - because Pak is on the up and up... And Hesson has already proved his credentials over and over... I do watch other nations play Test cricket. I have been watching some of the England v Sri Lanka game. Also how your Black Caps are going in the UAE. IPL or even BBL does not really interest me as much as it used to. Finch's nemesis is outswing/outseam starting on off stump, and in/swing, in/seam starting on 4th stump (offside). Then if India has done its homework they will soon work out Finch's weakness No point in Australia. If Boult and Anderson are unable to swing it, and if Philander gets no seam, its just pointless to try. Aus is all about getting some 6'6" knuckledragger hurling down 150 km/h if there's no grass on the pitch. Forget swing. seam or spin these days. It is a road. Aus test cricket pitches is the king of highways in the past 6-8 years or so. Gets worse all the time too... Still Kohli loved it last time... KW feasted the year after with Taylor. Faf the year after that. It is a batsman's paradise and lanky fast bowler's paradise. It's crap for everyone else tbf. There is no sure and fast rule that says CA has to serve up roads for touring sides. Australia does have curators that can produce a deck to aid the bowler. Just take a look at the tracks being used for the Shield. Grassy providing plenty of seam and swing. The ICC should impel Test tour hosts to produce a track that provides a fair contest between bat and ball. Sadly,the ICC and its deputy. CA are both as weak as each other..kow towing to the one entity holding the purse strings..the BCCI. Disgusts me the way the put the mitey dollar ahead of the people that keep cricket at the forefront .. the fans. Absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the ICC. The ICC merely has a match referee suggest when the pitch was entirely unsatisfactory - like the dustbowls India served SA or the road at the MCG CA served England... CA answers to the ICC in no way at all ever! Ever! It fines and suspends poor on-field conduct, overrates and ball tampering only.. ICC has no say over pitch production. At all. CA voted to join the BIG 3 and make it official at first instance! The only thing the ICC does is supply umpires, the world cups, champs trophy, world t20 tournaments and redistribute the funds of these tournaments... CA controls cricket in Australia... and where the CA team tours and when... The ICC does not rule CA - the ICC has no say over CA - CA does what CA wants to do - if CA wants BCCI rupees - that is nothing at all to do the the ICC... The ICC only gets revenue from the world tournaments - they get no money at all from the BCCI - AT ALL! The ICC is a club that does tournaments and supplies umpires. Tours are a relationship, an affair, a romance. All the ICC does is supply an umpire or two... I know I have informed you of this before, but I will keep doing it until people understand - the ICC is no excuse for ANY and EVERY single Board's behaviour... because the ICC DOES NOT GOVERN CRICKET - it is like the UN or APEC - it is simply a forum that provides some peace keepers. If China, Russia and USA want to goto war (the Big 3) they do as they please - and this very much includes CA... Baggers - I like you - but you seriously need to read about world cricket is funded and how it operates. You seem to ingore my posts. Read up on it. Jarrod Kimber is a good start. He's an aussie - read his articles - watch his doco "death of a gentleman". He will tell you how it is... The ICC has no control at all over CA, ECB or BCCI... they're the Big 3 for a reason... Trying to hide CA behind the ICC is insulting to SA, SL, Bang, WI , NZL, Afg, and all the fans of the small guys... because we know the truth... If CA wants money - it wants money - not the ICC - it gets none from tours. The host gets the money - not the touring team. But more importantly - nothing at all to do with the ICC at all EVER... The ICC does not get a penny from the tours... It gets some expenses for supplying an umpire and referee at best... (which is taken out of the redistribution from WC, WT20 funds..) Now CA may very well pander to the BCCI for rupees - but that is nothing to do with the iCC outside of BCCI buying CA's vote for some rupees. And that was CA's choice... Which they exercise regularly - see the Bangladesh tour cancelled of CA this year.. Ok so who controls the big three. Or are they the Mafiosa of sport? CA should not be allowed to pander to the dollar at the expense of the cricket paying public of this country. Their attitude over the past two decades has created situations where our Baggy Greens continue to be humiliated when they play away. CA sugar coat the fact it is doing something to turn around our deplorable records in India and England. India.. with sub continental like decks at the NCC. Big deal these are only for practice. They employ a man as our spin consultant who never played Test cricket and has a deplorable First Class record in his home country. For England; we use the English Duke ball for only half of our Shield season.. not the full 10 rounds. Why? Specially in an Ashes year. How many of our Test batsmen are impelled to play English County cricket in the off season. How many of our best young talents are told to play English League cricket to cut their teeth in English conditions? In days past this was almost a rite of passage for our best youngsters. Noone controls the big 3, ECB, CA and BCCI. The ICC is a "club" (originally the MCC did its role) with no oversight of the national Boards and the big 3 may leverage and buy votes, BCCI may simply threaten boycotts. Hence their refusal to play Pakistan. Noone can make the big 3 do anything. Noone can make any of the members do anything, but the rest may be easily bought as everyone else is struggling for crumbs, so they fall into someone's pocket and fall into line. CA, ECB and BCCI make sure that they get plenty of test matches and limited overs fixtures between themselves, and Pak, SA, WI, NZ, SL, Bang, Zim, Afg are all very much after thoughts. The only series outside the world cups (which India takes credit for and unequal distribution of the revenue) that make big money are the Ashes, and whenever India plays someone anywhere. So everyone wants India to tour their shores... Everyone. A big 3 solely playing test world is quite imaginable, imagine Eng touring one year, India the next, Eng the year after. Ditto for yearly away tours, India that year, England the next, India the year after... As I have said before, think of the ICC as the UN. If the USA, Russia or China want to goto war, and the UN says no, who's going to stop USA, Russia or China from doing what they want? When they want? Want to know how bad it is? NZ has just gone two years, TWO YEARS with no away tests. Hopefully the ICC test championship improves on things.. In this time - there was one mini limited overs tour of India. That's it. 3 odi matches away in 2 years. No away tests. 4 tests, all at home, in over 20 months. Thank you Big 3 :P http://stats.espncricinfo.com/newzealand/engine/records/team/series_results.html?class=1;id=5;type=teamThe players will play more tests in Australia so they need to learn the Kookaburra as well. Best coach NZ has had never even played FC cricket - let alone international cricket.
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