get rid of it. reward clubs who invest in their own squad.

That means regional clubs will have no chance and we’ll have a constant lopsided competition. We’ll know what boring really means then.

“That means regional clubs will have no chance and we’ll have a constant lopsided competition. We’ll know what boring really means then.“

No one watches the A league for the Mariners.

Fixed

Most people would rather the Mariners be successful than a club like Victory.

How many times do we have to go over this

Undecided

@sub007 - I get what you mean now with the cap floor.

What I mean is the floor should simply be squad size x min wage as a base protection for the players.

That should be the min spend for a club and not 90% of some number determined by the FFA.

A minimum wage for adult players and a minimum senior squad size would have the same effect as a salary floor.

The floor being 90% of the ceiling is a laugh.

Scrap it and the floor.
It’s actually a rule that prevents us from bringing in better players and improving the overall quality of the league.

Happy to bring in FFP to ensure wages are paid on time etc

“Most people would rather the Mariners be successful than a club like Victory.”

Irrelevant. No one knows who the Mariners are let alone give a tenpenny fuck about them.

Yes and no. 

If you keep it should be a hard cap. This arrangement at the moment where there are so many exemptions and where the FFA subsidies a strong team with Honda is stupid. It is not doing its job as an equalization measure so it is useless.

Once you get to that stage it should be no cap.

  

No to the cap

Yeah because no one knows about the side that won the league with a few future Socceroos and the future Socceroos manager... lol k

This is basically what I mean when there is a floor. You can't have nothing otherwise a club would just field part timers.

This. I don't get how people can support the current setup. It's significantly flawed.

If you don't have regional clubs the comp will be run from the main cities only. How will this enhance the growth of the sport or give potential youth star players a professional club within reasonable distance. The expansion of the HAL will be regional after this but without a cap they stand little hope.

Gotta fish where there is fish :)

But seriously, how/why do you think a regional club would not be able to compete with a 'City' team? 

Depends on what your goal is with said cap:

If the goal is competition equalisation, than it needs to be a hard cap. As others have already mentioned, there are too many loopholes in the current cap for it to be effective as an equalisation measure.

If the goal is financial security, then it needs to be scrapped and replaced with FFP (or a form of it). This will allow clubs to expand and contract as necessary, whilst ensuring they don't over reach their financial capability.

My preference would be overwhelmingly the latter - implement a proper football environment and we'll get a much improved professional scene.

60% of Australia do not live in Sydney and Melbourne. A regional club will always have a different challenges - but they also have a more parochial supporter base. 

well it failed anyway because sydney fc and melbourne victory are winning title most of the titles so just scrap it

Agree that there will be different challenges but that doesn't lead to paulc's conclusion that only city clubs will be winning if a cap is gone. A more parochial supporter base might be what's needed to get a team over the line... 

I voted no. Get rid of it, more negatives than positives with the cap.

isnt there a lock on squad numbers? if that is the case then it certainly does? 

I think something like this makes sense. Once p&r is introduced, then scrap the cap and let everyone sort it out from there.
Keep it for now but heavily amend it.

“well it failed anyway because sydney fc and melbourne victory are winning title most of the titles so just scrap it”

In the last 7 years there’s been 5 different champions.

In the last 8 years SFC have been champions once

Sounds like the cap is equalising things after all

but see i dont see a problem with a team fielding 'part timers' we dont have enough support to have 28 teams 14 in div 1 and 14 in div 2 some of those clubs will have to have significantly lower wage bills then others but it also gives players more of a chance to play due to increase number of clubs. 

Honestly id rather see Sydney and Melbourne dominate the league but have two of the strongest clubs in Asia so everytime we go to the ACL we are talked about as favourites to win it. That is how you improve a league you create a brand you think anyone is talking about MVFC in the UAE of course not but that should be our goal especially if we can out reach into china/India a country with a billion people get them watching HAL and the league will fund it self.

 As long as the TV rights money is fair distributed the cap should be booted!

I'd say the cap has made the competition fairer most clubs have felt some level of success but it has NOT grown the competition TV views and attendance has stalled if not gone a little backwards lately because the games gone stale. 

It is great there is a few new clubs joining the league. Which will hopefully increase interest next season however if Nix leave we are back to a 10 teams (11 when South Sydney join) season so i hope they can get there sh*t together. 

Just because the league is competitive doesnt make it 'good' and it doesnt seem to be making it more entertaining, wouldnt you agree? 

Cap should be kept, Its done wonders for the Nix & CCM.

@ coffee jackal

Agree with all that. I’m not in favour of the cap. I was just pointing out the reality of recent winners in light of an earlier comment