According to Transfermarkt, the worst La Liga 2 team would finish 9th in the A-League.

That would imply that Isaias is correct.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jumplist/startseite/wettbewerb/AUS1
https://www.transfermarkt.com/jumplist/startseite/wettbewerb/ES2

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That's last season.
Both of those sides got promoted.

As I said, you are delusional.

laLiga2 is worth over 330 million Euros.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/jumplist/startseite/wettbewerb/ES2

HAL is worth less than a quarter of that.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jumplist/startseite/wettbewerb/AUS1

Transfermarkt squad values (in millions)

MVC: 12.49
SYD: 10.31
MCY: 9.32
PER: 8.55
BRI: 8.33
WSW: 7.22
NEW: 7.1
ADL: 6.62
Reus Deportiu: 6.60
WEL: 6.53
CCM: 6.28

hahahaha, that teamed is currently 20th in the league standings and is likely to be relegated.

So basically, you are saying the HAL is about as good as that. Bottom of LaLiga2 and LaLiga3

Wow, don't you aim high. lol

It's about bottom half of the Segunda which shows that the A-League is much better than what it was.

You do not have any evidence of how good the HAL was in years gone by.

I would agree that today's HAL is better than the first few years yes, but it is now in decline in the last 4 years.

And the only thing you have proven is that the bottom 4 teams of LaLiga2 is where the HAL is at. in other words, LaLiga3 level.

HAL is not the same level as LaLiga2

The quote by Isaias.

I give you links based on the true market values of the teams.

LaLiga2 = 330 million Euro
HAL = 82 million Euro

The bottom 10 of LaLiga2 is pretty much equivalent value wise as our 10 teams.

This.

Therefore Isaias' claim that the A-League is the same standard as La Liga 2 is correct.

How the hell is CCMs squad valued at more than $6m

and that's in pounds

Tommy Oar Left Winger

27

£1.35m

I'm sure clubs are falling over themselves to sign Tommy Oar for over $2m Australian.

The figures don't stack up.
Craig Goodwin is valued at almost a third of Tommy Oar

45

Craig Goodwin Left Winger

27

£540k

So! The bottom 10 of LaLiga 2 still need to play the top 10, which means the competition is just stronger all round.

No it doesn't because there are teams in that comp worth 30 and 40 million Euro. The most expensive HAL team is something like 9 million Euro.

Player valuations have next to nothing to do with current performances. They are more about contract value. So if a player is on a long contract (or have a long time left on their contract) their value can appear to be higher than expected. The value is about how much it would potentially cost a club to purchase the player as this typically involves paying out the current contract.

If Segunda Liga is so much better, how does a bloke who struggled over here then go an absolutely tear it up in the Segunda division?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergi_Guardiola

There have been players that have gone from the HAL to the EPL, Seria A, laLiga, Erevedisie, Bundeslige, Belgium and Greece and also forged great careers. Football players are aspiration and will always try their luck in better leagues. that is what it is all about.

But just because someone makes it in LaLiga2 or the EPL, or Serie A, does not mean that we are better or is in anyway a good comparison between the HAL and that other league. All it indicates is that this player has gone from the HAL to Segunda to further his career and prospects. If he makes it in LaLiga2 there will be more opportunity for him and more chance for him to be noticed but even better teams.

Please be logical....

Seems to indicate the A-league must be pretty decent then, perhaps better than League 2 Spain

Sorry Sub007 you are delusional there is loads of evidence being presented to you, you're simply not listening to it 

Isaias isn't delusional sure, but he isnt going to turn around and say the league is a low standard either he is being paid by the AU and at large the HAL he isnt going to bite the hand that feeds him that is just common sense. 

If you think this is the best season you have seen power to you but i would stay it is probably better then the 1st 4 season of the HAL but it was worst then seasons 5-7 in par with what we have seen in the past few years.... 

There has not been a single piece of evidence to back up your view. All of what you and Aikhme have posted are your opinions, which you two have presented as facts, yet have not displayed a single piece of evidence at all.

I'm also pretty sure that Bozza along with the other Fox Sports pundits have also said on air that the standard is the best it's ever been.

Most of the players that made it big over there, were actually NSL products or early A League. That generation.

Now there isn't much going on like there use to be, so that indicates something different to me.

Most of the players that made it big over there, were actually NSL products or early A League. That generation.

Now there isn't much going on like there use to be, so that indicates something different to me.

I have postd a lot of evidence that indicates that the HAL isn't anywhere close to the standard of LaLiga2. As mentioned above, you are not paying any attention to it.

LaLiga 2 is 4 times the value of the A League for a start. What does that tell you? They pay more right? Hence far better players too.

Yet again you have moved the goalposts. Coffee jackal said the league isn't as good as it was. Neither of you have provided any evidence to back up that claim.

As for the debate comparing the HAL to the Segunda division. A-League sides are similar in ability to the bottom half of the Segunda division. That means that Isaias is correct in saying the HAL is as good as the Segunda Division as HAL clubs are the same quality as the bottom half of the Segunda division. 

You could make the same argument with Oar at APOEL...

Yes Oar was in the Dutch League and was bought by Apoel so he went for 300K

He was always going to go for the money and glitz of Apoel. No player would go to the A League because Apoel play in the Champions League and are capable of anything.

Oar was getting pissed off because he wasn't getting any game time. After Bean was sacked it was pretty much the end of the road for Oar so he went to CCM. That was the only offer he had. Dutch didn't want him and the Cypriots didn't want him either.

Oar was a waste of money.

How can we compare on a 1 against 1 basis? That is impossible.

All we can do is compare the quality of players in that era to today. The facts indicate, there was more Australian talent in Europe and the Australian NT was stronger then to the dismal level of today.

And what more evidence can there be than declining spectators. People are switching off and not going to matches because they have had enough of the stale product on offer.

 4 years ago, average attendance was nearly 14000. Today it is 10900. And still in decline.

And secondly, you can say the A League might be similar to the bottom half of the Cyprus League, but certainly not the top half. therefore, Segunda and Cyprus are stronger leagues. the standard is NOT the same.

The evidence we have provided you is the net worth of the Segunda and compared it to the HAL. Segunda is 400% the value of the A League. You do the sums.

And then similarly, you replace the bottom half of the Segunda, with the 10 A-League clubs, do you get a comparable value?
You do the sums

Yep