Don't really want to talk about AFL, but there's a comment about streaming that got my attention.

A Sports Industry tweet is quoting something from Ch 7: "AFLW TV & Streaming audiences up 60%, AFL audiences up 16% overall. Take it from Channel 7 direct."

Unfortunately, no break down of the streaming numbers - would love to finally see some concrete evidence of where we are at with streaming.

Extra time is usually higher

90+ minutes of football is not appetising, People might flip over from time to time to see whose winning and arent really engaged throughout the whole game

But when it comes to extra time they know they only have to commit to 30 minutes and somebody is going to win, or penalties which can be nail biting

I think you'll find in most games extra time is significantly higher than regular time. Its just a shame the City defence was predictably carved apart in the last minute (I called the goal from when the Adelaide player got the ball on the wing). If it went to penalties the ratings would have been even higher

Fair enough, Im just so used to people trying to find negatives. Sorry.

My point was that the a league final overlapped into scheduled pre show of moto gp. Therefore the 122k recorded could be last 20 mins of adelaide melbourne city game.

Why do we care how many watched moto GP?

Should we try and make our game more like MotoGP?

122k watched pre game of Motogp on 10 bold, was that the end of extra time (last 15-20 mins) of Melbourne City vs Adelaide? Race started at 10 I believe

ok that seems pretty good is that one of the highest rating games for the season at 80k? 

my error. 80k watched extra time.
the coding on the split sheets isnt really clear.

wtf 80k watched shootout on 10 bold?

Sun Aleague Final @TV_Blackbox
Adelaide v Melbourne City
Match: 56k 10 bold (metro only). 51k Fox,
Extra time: 80k 10 Bold (metro only)
Source Oztam, @mediaspyorg


https://twitter.com/footyindustryAU/status/1125256019561463808

and FTA?

I think the defenders and the attackers of the current system are full of it and both wrong.

There are some out there who think a change in operating models will suddenly engage the nation and Football will rise from the ashes... others who see changing to much to fast cannot be paid for and will see us fall over... both are extreme positions nowhere near the truth IMO ..

In simple terms in any population you have a certain % of people who watch sport, in Australia the chosen sports are AFL, NRL & Cricket with everyone else trying to get traction... 

For me its always been simple, engage the player base and to do that you need to engage the regional associations and their park teams.

For me the best way to engage and impower an engagement of the player base is develop a model we can all sorta agree with, say for arguments sake, 32 professional teams over two divisions both male and female with P & R between them and with enough funding for national programs and national teams.

Lets not burden the model with other issues, like salary cap, transfers, finals, etc... just simply agree this is what we want and say we have to make this work and assume it can't happen overnight, equally we don't want it in 50 years, so set an achievable target time frame and chip away at it year on year.

Other issues like the salary cap, transfers etc will work themselves out as the model develops.

If we continue with our dick measuring positions in that my ideas are better than your ideas we will continue to be divided and that means failure .

I hope, pray, wish, not sure if I believe, that someone or some group will come along and take control of the conversation and set us up, as if we continue the toxic environment and infighting,  we have now no one or very few will want to deal with us ...

My reading of the tea leafs is we have a lot of hard work in front of us and there is no easy answer and we have to earn hhhmmmm better word is command respect  from the public, we can't demand a system change and expect people to come flooding in... essentially command not demand respect and to do that and engage the association s we need a model to work with and a leadership team to drive it.

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51,000

Just saw that SBS viceland got 80K for 2 screenings of "The Fifth Element" . They had it on repeat yesterday and I actually watched one waiting for HAL to start. Will be interesting to see what HAL got.

77k i believe. i think that says more about how much foxtel not having the EPL affects the HAL. 

So the SBS EPL broadcast got 70k+.

this doesn't surprise me as no one watches Wellington games on TV in Australia. but lets see how last nights game went. no clash with the other major codes and 2 Australian teams playing. plus extra time. should be a lot higher.  

I don't think the Adelaide/City game is going to tweet as high but still up there with the AFL/NRL games today. `1800 at the moment

Let's not make a habit out of this ok?

And stay for the final too.

We need to gather some evidence about the sense of humour levels of Footie fans too.

We counting tweets now? :laugh::laugh:

I think it's another piece of evidence that supports the (very reasonable) assumption that football fans tend to skew younger than AFL/NRL fans, so therefore they're more likely to be tech-savvy so you'd expect a higher proportion of people to be streaming online compared to the traditional codes. 

The thread follows the exact same pattern every fucking time, it's so predictable and sad. 

Someone (typically Waz or Eldar) will reasonably point to a piece of evidence that indicates things aren't so bad as they appear and that TV ratings may not be a true reflection of the amount of people watching the games, and then people like SelectFew and RossL will jump down their throats and straw-man them as if they claimed that an extra 100000 people are watching online.

It really must get tiresome being so negative all the time.

For once I agree with you 

An indication of the literacy and numeracy skills of the average Soccer fan. 

They can usually speak in sentences, don’t swear as much, get pissed as much, shower daily whether they need it or not, can count to 21 without using their fingers and toes whilst the average AFL supporter doesn’t. 

Soccer fans also also have a full set of teeth because they brush and floss and are more likely to be on Twitter. 

Maybe a lot of people in NZ were tweeting, their ratings are up 70%

Oh yes the billions of billions of Kayo subscribers. Chances are they were watching something else.

Them and South Melbourne (the AFL team).

Some pretend that Fitzroy and South Melbourne live on in Brisbane and Sydney respectively, but they're kidding themselves.

So, as of this point, the Melbourne/Wellington match is the second most tweeted about football match of all codes this weekend. I know, I know, it is just because people at the game are tweeting instead of watching and fans of other codes don't know how to use technology yet...but it is still a slight positive light of optimism for our game.

What good is plonking games on FTA if there's little interest in the product