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			    7,071 Adelaide = Piss poor crowd, looked like 4k.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +xIt did not look like 18k on tv   Cameras point forward and film what is in front of them. Each stadium has a broadcast side                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +xAFLW at Geelong 18400 What will West Melbourne get?  I wonder how many people A league teams would get if our games were free, like your games are.                 
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +x+xAFLW at Geelong 18400 What will West Melbourne get?  I wonder how many people A league teams would get if our games were free, like your games are.   Didn't Gold Coast play hallf a season with free attenance?                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +x+xAFLW at Geelong 18400 What will West Melbourne get?  I wonder how many people A league teams would get if our games were free, like your games are.   But that shows the difference between the business understanding of each code AFL: Launches the AFLW out of a bigger bucket and gets people to the games free. Win for the game A League: Waiting until a fully professional second division that pays for itself can be found before establishing a second tier Also, it isnt guarenteed that free tickets means a bigger crowd. Look at GWS for example. If the interest isnt there then neither are the fans. I doubt 18k people turned up to watch something they didnt like because it was free                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +x+x+xAFLW at Geelong 18400 What will West Melbourne get?  I wonder how many people A league teams would get if our games were free, like your games are.   But that shows the difference between the business understanding of each code AFL: Launches the AFLW out of a bigger bucket and gets people to the games free. Win for the game A League: Waiting until a fully professional second division that pays for itself can be found before establishing a second tier Also, it isnt guarenteed that free tickets means a bigger crowd. Look at GWS for example. If the interest isnt there then neither are the fans. I doubt 18k people turned up to watch something they didnt like because it was free  It is all so easy when you have $2 billion to waste on a competition only thought up to keep girls away from the Matilda's.  It is also very easy for AFL to do anything with cheerleading fans in the media, free promotion, but you want football to have a 2nd division.  When for 40 years no one from the NSL or A league had the will or means to establish one.                 
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +x+xAFLW at Geelong 18400 What will West Melbourne get?  I wonder how many people A league teams would get if our games were free, like your games are.   Gold Coast hosted a game for free, got 5k.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +x+x+xAFLW at Geelong 18400 What will West Melbourne get?  I wonder how many people A league teams would get if our games were free, like your games are.   Gold Coast hosted a game for free, got 5k.  They actually got 10k and the match was abandoned due to 200mil of rain and they 21k get tickets but obviously due to the weather only half turned up.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +x+x+x+xAFLW at Geelong 18400 What will West Melbourne get?  I wonder how many people A league teams would get if our games were free, like your games are.   Gold Coast hosted a game for free, got 5k.  They actually got 10k and the match was abandoned due to 200mil of rain and they 21k get tickets but obviously due to the weather only half turned up.  It was too. Was that against Brisbane as well.?                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +x+x+x+x+xAFLW at Geelong 18400 What will West Melbourne get?  I wonder how many people A league teams would get if our games were free, like your games are.   Gold Coast hosted a game for free, got 5k.  They actually got 10k and the match was abandoned due to 200mil of rain and they 21k get tickets but obviously due to the weather only half turned up.  It was too. Was that against Brisbane as well.?  Ccm                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +x+xAFLW at Geelong 18400 What will West Melbourne get?  I wonder how many people A league teams would get if our games were free, like your games are.   Didn't Melb City do that recently with the macca's promo                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +x+x+x+xAFLW at Geelong 18400 What will West Melbourne get?  I wonder how many people A league teams would get if our games were free, like your games are.   But that shows the difference between the business understanding of each code AFL: Launches the AFLW out of a bigger bucket and gets people to the games free. Win for the game A League: Waiting until a fully professional second division that pays for itself can be found before establishing a second tier Also, it isnt guarenteed that free tickets means a bigger crowd. Look at GWS for example. If the interest isnt there then neither are the fans. I doubt 18k people turned up to watch something they didnt like because it was free  but you want football to have a 2nd division.  When for 40 years no one from the NSL or A league had the will or means to establish one.   They do have the means. If there can be a national youth league then there can be a national second tier because thats all that is required. One to replace the other When you look at the PFA model of $5m fully professional second tier clubs you can see why we dont have one yet                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +x+x+x+x+xAFLW at Geelong 18400 What will West Melbourne get?  I wonder how many people A league teams would get if our games were free, like your games are.   But that shows the difference between the business understanding of each code AFL: Launches the AFLW out of a bigger bucket and gets people to the games free. Win for the game A League: Waiting until a fully professional second division that pays for itself can be found before establishing a second tier Also, it isnt guarenteed that free tickets means a bigger crowd. Look at GWS for example. If the interest isnt there then neither are the fans. I doubt 18k people turned up to watch something they didnt like because it was free  but you want football to have a 2nd division.  When for 40 years no one from the NSL or A league had the will or means to establish one.   They do have the means. If there can be a national youth league then there can be a national second tier because thats all that is required. One to replace the other When you look at the PFA model of $5m fully professional second tier clubs you can see why we dont have one yet  Bring Back the Starwars round                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +x+x+x+x+xAFLW at Geelong 18400 What will West Melbourne get?  I wonder how many people A league teams would get if our games were free, like your games are.   But that shows the difference between the business understanding of each code AFL: Launches the AFLW out of a bigger bucket and gets people to the games free. Win for the game A League: Waiting until a fully professional second division that pays for itself can be found before establishing a second tier Also, it isnt guarenteed that free tickets means a bigger crowd. Look at GWS for example. If the interest isnt there then neither are the fans. I doubt 18k people turned up to watch something they didnt like because it was free  but you want football to have a 2nd division.  When for 40 years no one from the NSL or A league had the will or means to establish one.   They do have the means. If there can be a national youth league then there can be a national second tier because thats all that is required. One to replace the other When you look at the PFA model of $5m fully professional second tier clubs you can see why we dont have one yet  The standard of the 2nd division has to be way above the NYL and to do that costs much more than the NYL.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +x+x+x+x+x+xAFLW at Geelong 18400 What will West Melbourne get?  I wonder how many people A league teams would get if our games were free, like your games are.   But that shows the difference between the business understanding of each code AFL: Launches the AFLW out of a bigger bucket and gets people to the games free. Win for the game A League: Waiting until a fully professional second division that pays for itself can be found before establishing a second tier Also, it isnt guarenteed that free tickets means a bigger crowd. Look at GWS for example. If the interest isnt there then neither are the fans. I doubt 18k people turned up to watch something they didnt like because it was free  but you want football to have a 2nd division.  When for 40 years no one from the NSL or A league had the will or means to establish one.   They do have the means. If there can be a national youth league then there can be a national second tier because thats all that is required. One to replace the other When you look at the PFA model of $5m fully professional second tier clubs you can see why we dont have one yet  The standard of the 2nd division has to be way above the NYL and to do that costs much more than the NYL.  Can they use a transfer market? Can they negotiate a tv deal? Can they organise their own sponsorship? That is such a bullshit cop out statement.                 
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +x+x+x+x+x+x+xAFLW at Geelong 18400 What will West Melbourne get?  I wonder how many people A league teams would get if our games were free, like your games are.   But that shows the difference between the business understanding of each code AFL: Launches the AFLW out of a bigger bucket and gets people to the games free. Win for the game A League: Waiting until a fully professional second division that pays for itself can be found before establishing a second tier Also, it isnt guarenteed that free tickets means a bigger crowd. Look at GWS for example. If the interest isnt there then neither are the fans. I doubt 18k people turned up to watch something they didnt like because it was free  but you want football to have a 2nd division.  When for 40 years no one from the NSL or A league had the will or means to establish one.   They do have the means. If there can be a national youth league then there can be a national second tier because thats all that is required. One to replace the other When you look at the PFA model of $5m fully professional second tier clubs you can see why we dont have one yet  The standard of the 2nd division has to be way above the NYL and to do that costs much more than the NYL.  Can they use a transfer market? Can they negotiate a tv deal? Can they organise their own sponsorship? That is such a bullshit cop out statement.   The 2nd division is intended to be better than the NPL which is way better than the NYL in the bigger states.  If it's not it's pointless.  The cost of the 2nd division will be greater than the NPL and way more than the NYL.  The AAFC indicated a $2.5m budget.  If clubs can't find that sort of money then I doubt they will be selected for the 2nd division.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Melbourne Victory   190,397   21,155   40,504 - Rnd 1 vs MCY   16,508 - Rnd 4 vs CCM
  Sydney FC   121,309   15,164   30,588 - Rnd 2 vs WSW   10,101 - Rnd 7 vs WEL
  Brisbane Roar   74,815   10,688   15,129 - Rnd 2 vs WEL   7,131 - Rnd 15 vs MVC
  Newcastle Jets   66,639   9,520   11,814 - Rnd 3 vs MVC   6,701 - Rnd 8 vs PER
  Perth Glory   95,134   9,513   11,393 - Rnd 16 vs NEW   7,213 - Rnd 15 vs ADL
  Melbourne City   73,735   9,217   24,306 - Rnd 9 vs MVC   5,149 - Rnd 15 vs WSW
  Adelaide United   88,246   8,825   12,115 - Rnd 12 vs MVC   7,071 - Rnd 17 vs BRI
  Western Sydney Wanderers   79,144   8,794   18,043 - Rnd 8 vs SYD   5,067 - Rnd 4 vs BRI
  Wellington Phoenix   65,685   7,298   10,186 - Rnd 13 vs CCM   4,829 - Rnd 6 vs PER
  Central Coast Mariners   50,743   6,343   8,923 - Rnd 9 vs NEW   4,103 - Rnd 12 vs MCY
  Total:   905,847   10,657   40,504 - MVC vs MCY   4,103 - CCM vs MCY                 
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +x+x+x+x+x+xAFLW at Geelong 18400 What will West Melbourne get?  I wonder how many people A league teams would get if our games were free, like your games are.   But that shows the difference between the business understanding of each code AFL: Launches the AFLW out of a bigger bucket and gets people to the games free. Win for the game A League: Waiting until a fully professional second division that pays for itself can be found before establishing a second tier Also, it isnt guarenteed that free tickets means a bigger crowd. Look at GWS for example. If the interest isnt there then neither are the fans. I doubt 18k people turned up to watch something they didnt like because it was free  but you want football to have a 2nd division.  When for 40 years no one from the NSL or A league had the will or means to establish one.   They do have the means. If there can be a national youth league then there can be a national second tier because thats all that is required. One to replace the other When you look at the PFA model of $5m fully professional second tier clubs you can see why we dont have one yet  The standard of the 2nd division has to be way above the NYL and to do that costs much more than the NYL.  Not initially If a second division the standard of the youth league gets us a second division then why not? Obviously it will grow over time                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAFLW at Geelong 18400 What will West Melbourne get?  I wonder how many people A league teams would get if our games were free, like your games are.   But that shows the difference between the business understanding of each code AFL: Launches the AFLW out of a bigger bucket and gets people to the games free. Win for the game A League: Waiting until a fully professional second division that pays for itself can be found before establishing a second tier Also, it isnt guarenteed that free tickets means a bigger crowd. Look at GWS for example. If the interest isnt there then neither are the fans. I doubt 18k people turned up to watch something they didnt like because it was free  but you want football to have a 2nd division.  When for 40 years no one from the NSL or A league had the will or means to establish one.   They do have the means. If there can be a national youth league then there can be a national second tier because thats all that is required. One to replace the other When you look at the PFA model of $5m fully professional second tier clubs you can see why we dont have one yet  The standard of the 2nd division has to be way above the NYL and to do that costs much more than the NYL.  Can they use a transfer market? Can they negotiate a tv deal? Can they organise their own sponsorship? That is such a bullshit cop out statement.   The 2nd division is intended to be better than the NPL which is way better than the NYL in the bigger states.  If it's not it's pointless.  The cost of the 2nd division will be greater than the NPL and way more than the NYL.  The AAFC indicated a $2.5m budget.  If clubs can't find that sort of money then I doubt they will be selected for the 2nd division.  The only thing pointless was this post. Of course a player scrapping in the NYL would prefer to play first team football. And it's not up to the league it's up to the club. Stop making stupid restrictions on clubs.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xAFLW at Geelong 18400 What will West Melbourne get?  I wonder how many people A league teams would get if our games were free, like your games are.   But that shows the difference between the business understanding of each code AFL: Launches the AFLW out of a bigger bucket and gets people to the games free. Win for the game A League: Waiting until a fully professional second division that pays for itself can be found before establishing a second tier Also, it isnt guarenteed that free tickets means a bigger crowd. Look at GWS for example. If the interest isnt there then neither are the fans. I doubt 18k people turned up to watch something they didnt like because it was free  but you want football to have a 2nd division.  When for 40 years no one from the NSL or A league had the will or means to establish one.   They do have the means. If there can be a national youth league then there can be a national second tier because thats all that is required. One to replace the other When you look at the PFA model of $5m fully professional second tier clubs you can see why we dont have one yet  The standard of the 2nd division has to be way above the NYL and to do that costs much more than the NYL.  Can they use a transfer market? Can they negotiate a tv deal? Can they organise their own sponsorship? That is such a bullshit cop out statement.   The 2nd division is intended to be better than the NPL which is way better than the NYL in the bigger states.  If it's not it's pointless.  The cost of the 2nd division will be greater than the NPL and way more than the NYL.  The AAFC indicated a $2.5m budget.  If clubs can't find that sort of money then I doubt they will be selected for the 2nd division.  The only thing pointless was this post. Of course a player scrapping in the NYL would prefer to play first team football. And it's not up to the league it's up to the club. Stop making stupid restrictions on clubs.  I haven't placed any restrictions on 2nd division clubs.  The context of my posts is Bluebird again wanting to close off the NYL and have the 2nd division initially be NYL quality and cost.  That certainly doesn't satisfy what the AAFC is talking about in their Championship document.  I simply agree that a budget of $2.5m as proposed by the AAFC is of the right order.  NPL teams in Sydney operate on budgets over $600k already so operating a club above that standard in a national competition will cost way above the cost of operating a NYL team in a competition lower than the NPL.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +xThe 2nd division is intended to be better than the NPL which is way better than the NYL in the bigger states.  If it's not it's pointless.  The cost of the 2nd division will be greater than the NPL and way more than the NYL.  The AAFC indicated a $2.5m budget.  If clubs can't find that sort of money then I doubt they will be selected for the 2nd division.  what is going on with the second division? haven't heard anything from the AAFC in ages. isn't it supposed to start in about 20 months? or is this just a pipe dream?                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +x+xThe 2nd division is intended to be better than the NPL which is way better than the NYL in the bigger states.  If it's not it's pointless.  The cost of the 2nd division will be greater than the NPL and way more than the NYL.  The AAFC indicated a $2.5m budget.  If clubs can't find that sort of money then I doubt they will be selected for the 2nd division.  what is going on with the second division? haven't heard anything from the AAFC in ages. isn't it supposed to start in about 20 months? or is this just a pipe dream?  Nagorotto has been appointed the chair of the committee by the FFA board and the committee work is supposed to feed into the NLWG process so it has to start its work soon because the members of the NLWG have been named.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    So what's FFA's reasoning behind tonight's fucked up decision to play on a Thursday night outside of the holidays period?                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Wasn’t tonight’s game scheduled to give Jets time for next weeks ACL game?                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    the average attendance is 10,618 i think it will go up after the victory/perth game melb derby, finals ect                 
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +xWasn’t tonight’s game scheduled to give Jets time for next weeks ACL game?   That's the one.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +x+xWasn’t tonight’s game scheduled to give Jets time for next weeks ACL game?   That's the one.  I still think this is stupid. The way it stands, A-league - Thursday night ACL - Tuesday night A-league - Friday night I would have gone with, A-league - Friday night ACL - Tuesday night A-league - Sunday night                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    +x+x+xWasn’t tonight’s game scheduled to give Jets time for next weeks ACL game?   That's the one.  I still think this is stupid. The way it stands, A-league - Thursday night ACL - Tuesday night A-league - Friday night I would have gone with, A-league - Friday night ACL - Tuesday night A-league - Sunday night  Foxtel mustn't've wanted to move the second match on the Friday.  If Newcastle v Melbourne City fell in the woods and nobody scored a Puskas Award nominated goal, would anyone hear it?                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    so who will get a bigger crowd tomorrow? Victory vs glory at AAMI or big bash Stars vs Sixers next door at the MCG? I'm going with Victory vs Glory                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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