Nabbout was playing in the Malaysian second division because no other HAL club wanted him. 

As for Elvis. he clearly didn't do enough in either of his trials at AU.

Exhibit A:

Djulbic was signed because one of Australia's best young players was away on International duty. Real kick in the teeth for promising players there!

Exhibit B: 

Jeggo was behind Milligan in the pecking order. Terrible decision from us to not play him infront of one of Australia's best players of the past 10 years.

Exhibit C:

Nabbout was passed on by EVERY A-League club after he was released by Victory, because he wasn't focussed on football. Only after resetting in Malysia did he come back with an attitude suited to professional football. 

Exhbit D:

How is giving a 22 year old from the state leagues an opportunity a dig against giving opportunities to young players? Lol

Elvis was considered to be technically good enough by Adelaide, but lacking the physical presence they felt was required for the A-League.  They weren't prepared to invest the time and effort to get him up to the right physicality.
Victory signed him and have spent a lot of time getting him in shape - not just to run for 90 minutes, but to be able to resist challenges and put himself about a bit.  Long term thinking by Victory, short term laziness by Adelaide.

Not sure if that's true. They spent plenty of time getting Mileusnic ready for the HAL. Not sure why they'd do it for him and not Elvis.

Send him to WSW please :)

@AJF

You've taken the arguement from making up I said WU want him as a starting to player to inventing that I said something about Ajax not being better than victory at development to now arguing about victorys player development track record. I think you're lost. Jog on buddy you've been exposed. End of discussion.

Even the Mariners famously rejected Nabbout

Probably wasn't a coincidence that he was training with Victory for pretty much the whole season until the January window when the deal was sealed.

and re Ajax, the club would be buzzing right down to Development squads having knocked out Real Madrid convincingly from CL today.
Into the last 8, huge UP for the club.

Did anyone watch the Ajax v Real Madrid game this morning? That is why he's back here. Realised he needed first team experience before trying again.

Just out of interest does anyone know how many of the players from today’s starting 11 came from Ajax’s development team

Out of the 14 players who took to the pitch this morning, 8 of them are listed as having come through the Ajax youth system (de Light, van den Beek, Mazraoui, Blind, de Jong, Veltman, Dolberg and de Wit)

And to think Pasquali was better staying at Victory? Ajax destroyed Real Madrid with a majority of academy grads and useful bargain signings.

Will be interesting to see where's development is at now given he was at one of the best football academies in the world.

thanks 

Nah Mileusnic's shit :)

The guy you want is this Ken Ilso bloke. He's this gun that can play anywhere in the front third and can take any game by the scruff of it's neck. 

Oh is that why he's come back - yer ok ;)
We will never know the real reason but disregarding his manager but as a parent I would have said son, stay in EU there is not much here but getting a good wage seeing the fam but not the football dev.

Its ok to be a FERAL , if you really need game time and regular salary. The A-league really does welcome Australian players back with open arms.
But this is not really going to take the Socceroos to the next level. That is why I admire the determination at grit of the golden generation.

FERAL = Failed in Europe, Return to A League

Greatness comes with grit. 

I don't know what people's obsessions are with Mooy (ie look at what Mooy did by coming back to the A-league). Aaron is a talented player no doubt, but he is the archetypal average Big 5 league player. He is no more or no less than that. 

I want to hear more Kewell & Cahill type successes from our young players and less "He can be the next Mooy". 

As I have reiterated earlier, this is a bad move by Seb. It will only hamper his development by not fighting for his right to be noticed in Europe. 

So for Exhibit A, MV had no defenders in their youth program to promote so they were forced to sign a has been.

Exhibit's B&C highlight the point that youth in the 1st team don't get opportunities at MV and need to go elsewhere to develop

Exhibit D shows there is no point in being in MV's youth system as you wont get a shot in the 1st's despite wearing the tracksuit.

I understand it may be difficult for you with so many different discussion points bouncing around but let me simplify it for you
- you stated Seb should have stayed as "By now he could have been almost a starting player"
- I disagreed as training at Ajax is significantly better than training at MV, so he should not have stayed
- historically MV is not a great place for yoof to develop so you stating he would be a starting player for MV is comical
- if he hadnt gone to Ajax, there is no way he would have got a contract with WU

Only thing that's been exposed is your ignorance. HAL is a graveyard for youth development so any suggeston that players are better of staying here is delusional.



 

Whilst on this subject re Pasquali due to Ajax's last 16 CL win this article came up not long ago.
http://www.espn.com.au/football/blog/espn-fc-united/68/post/3757094/for-most-clubs-losing-a-star-like-frenkie-de-jong-would-be-a-killer-for-ajax-its-their-business-model
Some very telling comments regards to development going through the grades.
What a set up as some of us know from the past - and no matter their lack of success in recent times its still an awesum set up that Australia couldn't get near.........
Our potentials imo should always stick it out once in EU just as many GG did as well no matter not making it in xyz Club just get yourself ready to trial for another and another, bugga the AL it just doesn't cut it let alone our Asian neighbors who are a step above as well in most countries.

Ajax is the harvard of football in europe where any kid around the world wants to be apart of, if your kid gets a chance to be part of the academy then make the most it as its quite a short window to impress at best! 

yes mate I know, you know I feel the same, I mostly put this up for those who are not familiar with Ajax's history and set up.

Have to agree with the above poster.
Pound for pound Melbourne victory have a terrible record at producing their own.
I agree my team (sydney) have the same issue, I’m not trying to be bias here.

Every year IMO under muscat is the same. Give the 18 year old two games a year against the mariners and the rest 5 minute cameo’s

MV and Youth aren't synonymous that's for sure. 

For the most part, historically MV, SFC and WSW (in previous years) have appeared to have been weaker clubs at giving opportunities to youth players in the senior squads. They were getting the results, but it didn’t seem to be a focus on developing the next generation as a top priority.

It is a hard balancing act to get right, but the amount of players that are wasting away in the youth leagues around the globe does make it very challenging to get the opportunities players need. It isn’t a local issue only, but it is exacerbated by the limited amount of professional teams here, and the gap between tiers, although it does seem to be reducing somewhat to a few years ago.

Fuck off the salary cap and squad restrictions and give us a 2nd division to loan players to, and watch the bigger clubs become youth development production lines.

The current system disincentivises this.

^^ Valid point that. It strengthens the overall game if it’s done right.

Let’s hope whatever is being worked on currently does come up with a viable model for growth in this country, from fan, revenue and player pathway perspectives.

Ajax only need to hit the jackpot with a fat transfer fee about once every five years to make their massive academy system turn a profit.

ANY update on this bloke?