Far right politics in Australia, how it affects Australian football


Far right politics in Australia, how it affects Australian football

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Munrubenmuz - 21 Mar 2019 4:41 PM
Boca J - 21 Mar 2019 4:28 PM

I'm a 'sheeple'.

You got that right!

Sorry couldn't resist as you linked the thread. BTW, Boca J did not say anything like what you accused him of. He just stated, quite correctly, people should validate their sources and not trust the media because the media cleverly sue words to skew a most clever slant on things.

The 2 examples he provided were correct.

(Actually, I just noticed this thread is in the wrong section - therefore shouldn't have responded)



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Munrubenmuz - 24 Mar 2019 7:37 AM
NicCarBel - 23 Mar 2019 9:17 PM

Ha. I was at a fundraising function last night here on the mid north coast and they had some items for auction.

The Balmain jersey signed by Blocker Roach went for $750.  The Ben Simmons signed jersey $850 and a Socceroos shirt, signed by the whole team that played against Korea last year in Brisbane went for $120.

Wow. They literally paid Rebel for the jersey.
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NicCarBel - 23 Mar 2019 9:17 PM
zord - 18 Mar 2019 5:52 PM

This is the bit I will respond to.
But I think it says more about EuroSnobs:

I've grown up in Griffith all my life, but now live in Canberra. For the 2010 World Cup, a couple of my mates and I went out on a Saturday night (in Griffith) in our Socceroos kits, and there was a club that was showing the World Cup games on one of the TV's.

After both us and Ghana scored, some guy drunkenly comes up to us and says, "Who's playing?", looks and squints at the screen: "Oh fuck the socceroos, ITALIA!!!"

Ha. I was at a fundraising function last night here on the mid north coast and they had some items for auction.

The Balmain jersey signed by Blocker Roach went for $750.  The Ben Simmons signed jersey $850 and a Socceroos shirt, signed by the whole team that played against Korea last year in Brisbane went for $120.


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Anyway, I honestly think the far right is less of a problem than the far left, even the left.
You want to have a good relationship with the Islamic societies, the left is anathema to their ideals, it's just another religion bs.
Same sex relationships is a death sentence, freedom of religion can also be a death sentence (see apostasy), patriarchal hierarchy you can't get a better example than Islam, there are problems on both sides.
The problem is that Europeans had the enlightenment period where we separated state from religion, Islamic societies haven't, we approach things differently.
The far right might have violent tendencies, but it's in your face, something you can tackle with. But the left challenges their ideology, which is much more serious, you are expecting people to question their beliefs.
Just chill and except there are differences, most people are shit kickers anyway, the world will still turn.
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 23 Mar 2019 11:15 PM
robstazzz - 23 Mar 2019 10:42 PM

Dude . Do you  read what you post? For someone who claims the left are nothing more than snow flakes your sure proving  yourself a lefty. Attacking my thoughts . Seriously 

 Haha seriously you're one weak fuck. I have no idea what you're on but again credit to Sterling for being a tough cunnt.
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robstazzz - 23 Mar 2019 10:42 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 23 Mar 2019 9:13 PM

Well I just don't get you, claiming all this shit about bullying and crap, what's that got to do with anything I said?

Dude . Do you  read what you post? For someone who claims the left are nothing more than snow flakes your sure proving  yourself a lefty. Attacking my thoughts . Seriously 
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 23 Mar 2019 9:13 PM
robstazzz - 23 Mar 2019 8:23 PM

😂😂😂😂😂 attacking  your thoughts 😂😂😂 seriously that's some epic mind bending 

Well I just don't get you, claiming all this shit about bullying and crap, what's that got to do with anything I said?
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zord - 18 Mar 2019 5:52 PM


But say Im in a rural anglo country town, just about every bar around will only be interested in AFL or NRL. Ask to watch football and youll probably be met with resistance or dissapointment. Ive actually never even tried to do this in a rural country town.



This is the bit I will respond to.
But I think it says more about EuroSnobs:

I've grown up in Griffith all my life, but now live in Canberra. For the 2010 World Cup, a couple of my mates and I went out on a Saturday night (in Griffith) in our Socceroos kits, and there was a club that was showing the World Cup games on one of the TV's.

After both us and Ghana scored, some guy drunkenly comes up to us and says, "Who's playing?", looks and squints at the screen: "Oh fuck the socceroos, ITALIA!!!"
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robstazzz - 23 Mar 2019 8:23 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 23 Mar 2019 7:30 PM

Mate I'm giving credit to a football player for being strong minded to the point he simply couldn't give a fuck what negative shit is thrown at him by opposing fans. 
And you're attacking my thoughts, WTF seriously. 

😂😂😂😂😂 attacking  your thoughts 😂😂😂 seriously that's some epic mind bending 
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 23 Mar 2019 7:30 PM
robstazzz - 23 Mar 2019 7:12 PM

You know people have died from constant trolling yeah? People need to realize some people do take things to heart . But a lot of people think oh its just banter. No theres banter and then theres abuse. Which a lot of trolls forget.  Look at facebook and the concern trolls .  

Mate I'm giving credit to a football player for being strong minded to the point he simply couldn't give a fuck what negative shit is thrown at him by opposing fans. 
And you're attacking my thoughts, WTF seriously. 
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 23 Mar 2019 10:50 AM

No you guessed wrong but nice try. I'm talking about a man being man enough to not let dickheads comments get to him, and you compare that with a man who gives his wife zero say. Honestly that's one sad comment.

You know people have died from constant trolling yeah? People need to realize some people do take things to heart . But a lot of people think oh its just banter. No theres banter and then theres abuse. Which a lot of trolls forget.  Look at facebook and the concern trolls .  
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Boca J - 23 Mar 2019 11:26 AM
Munrubenmuz - 23 Mar 2019 10:37 AM

If we ‘loons’ are now so ‘commonplace’ then what does that suggest......

......and here i was thinking I am ‘special and unique’😔

seeking shelter in the comfort of your fellow 🐑🐑🐑 and labelling others derogatory terms for having an alternative viewpoint, you lack the brains to comprehend, is a final act of desperation and sign of insecurity & ignorance🤭

Conspiracy theories arent a different viewpoint. People have died and you say oh their crisis actors.  
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 23 Mar 2019 10:50 AM
robstazzz - 23 Mar 2019 9:14 AM

Wait what? So you're saying men have to the stereotypical macho man of the past? Let me guess you want your women to be obedient to your every word? Clearly still living In the 50s 

No you guessed wrong but nice try. I'm talking about a man being man enough to not let dickheads comments get to him, and you compare that with a man who gives his wife zero say. Honestly that's one sad comment.
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Munrubenmuz - 23 Mar 2019 10:37 AM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 23 Mar 2019 9:01 AM

Yes you are reading that correctly.  These are the loons that are now commonplace unfortunately.

If we ‘loons’ are now so ‘commonplace’ then what does that suggest......

......and here i was thinking I am ‘special and unique’😔

seeking shelter in the comfort of your fellow 🐑🐑🐑 and labelling others derogatory terms for having an alternative viewpoint, you lack the brains to comprehend, is a final act of desperation and sign of insecurity & ignorance🤭
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robstazzz - 23 Mar 2019 9:14 AM
jas88 - 22 Mar 2019 4:46 PM

He's a man that's how he gets through it. People can say whatever they want but he's the one on the field doing damage, making millions, and can pretty much have anything he wants in life. 
He's definitely not the modern type of men we see around today who have become mentally so weak, insecure, and soft. 
Full credit to Sterling and I'm not even a Man City or England fan.

Wait what? So you're saying men have to the stereotypical macho man of the past? Let me guess you want your women to be obedient to your every word? Clearly still living In the 50s 
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 23 Mar 2019 9:01 AM
Wait   so a you're saying that Christchurch was a false flag? Dear God people have been killed and you post this absolute drivel . 

Yes you are reading that correctly.  These are the loons that are now commonplace unfortunately.


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It scares and annoys me. People litterally  have died and people are like they're  crisis actors and blah blah blah  tell that to their families . Same goes for the Florida shootings and the others . 
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 23 Mar 2019 9:01 AM
Wait   so a you're saying that Christchurch was a false flag? Dear God people have been killed and you post this absolute drivel . 

has to be a troll. Nobody could not only believe this was staged but then believe a group of people so inept and pathetic as politicians could organise something on such a grand scale. 
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jas88 - 22 Mar 2019 4:46 PM
its hilarious seeing athletes whinge about online trolls... get some to manage your insta or something...

try being Raheem Sterling for a day... Imagine being in a stadium of 80k+ and being booed by the entire stadium every time you touch the ball... being spat at and called a black - oops, I just ate my own poop... every time he gets near a corner... fuck we got some whinging babies here.... how did Sterling deal with this? he fucking dominated and is now the best winger in the EPL.....

He's a man that's how he gets through it. People can say whatever they want but he's the one on the field doing damage, making millions, and can pretty much have anything he wants in life. 
He's definitely not the modern type of men we see around today who have become mentally so weak, insecure, and soft. 
Full credit to Sterling and I'm not even a Man City or England fan.
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Wait   so a you're saying that Christchurch was a false flag? Dear God people have been killed and you post this absolute drivel . 
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Munrubenmuz - 23 Mar 2019 6:50 AM
Boca J - 23 Mar 2019 1:03 AM

A desire to feel special and unique.  Sounds familiar.

https://www.livescience.com/63658-why-people-believe-conspiracy-theories.html

Schizotypy is the strongest predictor of conspiracy belief. In addition to experiencing the world in unusual ways, we found that people higher in schizotypy have an elevated need to feel unique, which has previously been linked with conspiracism. Why? Probably because believing in non-mainstream ideas allows people to stand out from their peers, but at the same time take refuge in a community of like-minded believers.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4373633/

https://cosmosmagazine.com/society/faking-reality-why-people-embrace-conspiracy-theories

In a 2016 paper exploring the link between schooling and conspiracy theories, published in the journal Applied Cognitive Psychology, researcher Jan-Willem van Prooijen from the Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam in the Netherlands says well-educated people are less likely to believe in them.

He cites three factors: “a belief in simple solutions for complex problems; feelings of powerlessness; and subjective social class”.

Joseph Uscinski, from the University of Miami in the US who, with Joseph Parent, authored the 2014 book American Conspiracy Theories (Oxford University Press), tells Cosmos that their research found that “conspiracy thinking is higher among people with less education and less wealth”.


https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/the-best-way-to-fight-back-against-conspiracy-theorists-like-alex-jones.html

That means conspiracy theories will probably always be this us to some extent, but there are also demographic and psychological factors that make it more likely people will believe in them, including:

  • Being less educated. This one hardly needs much explaining.
  • A desire to feel special. Those who want to stand out from the crowd (aka those with narcissistic tendencies) can adopt extreme beliefs in order to do so.
  • Feelings of powerlessness. An explanation for events beyond a person's control -- no matter how ludicrous those explanations sound to others -- can still be psychologically preferable to being the victim of blind chance or happenstance.
  • A need for certainty. "Seeking explanations for events is a natural human desire,""explains psychology professor David Ludden. "And we don't just ask questions. We also quickly find answers to those questions--not necessarily the true answers, but rather answers that comfort us or that fit into our worldview."




Wow, you went to a lot of trouble to copy & paste all that..I guess I AM SPECIAL & UNIQUE🙂😊😁😀🤣😆😂

If you don’t understand something...you simply label it as waffle😆

Again this applies: eventually when the opponent is challenged or questioned, it means the victims investment and thus his intelligence is questioned, no one can accept that. Not even to themselves.

keep digging that hole😁


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Boca J - 23 Mar 2019 1:03 AM
Munrubenmuz - 22 Mar 2019 7:54 AM
1. It is waffle to YOU because you lack the capacity to ‘think’ outside of the ‘prism created for your mind’🤯
2. I will tell you what i don’t think;  
    and that’s the official story. you mean to tell me that you believe every word of the official story...honestly.....
3. Batshit according to who😆..you & others like you....what happened to your leftist views of ‘everyone is entitled to an opinion’...
4. What, you mean they are not ?😮..😆
5. Teasing out little dribs? ....more like giving you the keys to unlock the ‘critical thinking’ vaults that both inhabit and inhibit your mind. I’m not forcing you to use them.

Truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self evident.
-Schopenhauer 

I challenge you, or anyone for that matter, to live without tv for one year..including cable..and see the positive changes that take place in you...begin by substituting it with reading and music🙃

A desire to feel special and unique.  Sounds familiar.

https://www.livescience.com/63658-why-people-believe-conspiracy-theories.html

Schizotypy is the strongest predictor of conspiracy belief. In addition to experiencing the world in unusual ways, we found that people higher in schizotypy have an elevated need to feel unique, which has previously been linked with conspiracism. Why? Probably because believing in non-mainstream ideas allows people to stand out from their peers, but at the same time take refuge in a community of like-minded believers.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4373633/

https://cosmosmagazine.com/society/faking-reality-why-people-embrace-conspiracy-theories

In a 2016 paper exploring the link between schooling and conspiracy theories, published in the journal Applied Cognitive Psychology, researcher Jan-Willem van Prooijen from the Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam in the Netherlands says well-educated people are less likely to believe in them.

He cites three factors: “a belief in simple solutions for complex problems; feelings of powerlessness; and subjective social class”.

Joseph Uscinski, from the University of Miami in the US who, with Joseph Parent, authored the 2014 book American Conspiracy Theories (Oxford University Press), tells Cosmos that their research found that “conspiracy thinking is higher among people with less education and less wealth”.


https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/the-best-way-to-fight-back-against-conspiracy-theorists-like-alex-jones.html

That means conspiracy theories will probably always be this us to some extent, but there are also demographic and psychological factors that make it more likely people will believe in them, including:

  • Being less educated. This one hardly needs much explaining.
  • A desire to feel special. Those who want to stand out from the crowd (aka those with narcissistic tendencies) can adopt extreme beliefs in order to do so.
  • Feelings of powerlessness. An explanation for events beyond a person's control -- no matter how ludicrous those explanations sound to others -- can still be psychologically preferable to being the victim of blind chance or happenstance.
  • A need for certainty. "Seeking explanations for events is a natural human desire,""explains psychology professor David Ludden. "And we don't just ask questions. We also quickly find answers to those questions--not necessarily the true answers, but rather answers that comfort us or that fit into our worldview."






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Munrubenmuz - 22 Mar 2019 7:54 AM
Boca J - 22 Mar 2019 12:43 AM

1.What a bunch of waffle.  It's a simple yes or no.

2.Do you think the Christchurch shooting were a false flag or staged operation?

3.And it is important we know what you think because judgements are made on people's mental state based on what sort of batshit things they believe.

4.If you believe shape-shifting reptillians are the illuminati and are running a world government then the chances are I'm not going to take serious anything that comes out of your head.

5.As for calling me an approval junkie listen to you.  Teasing out little dribs as if you're the only one  not drinking the kool-aid.  Look at me I know better than all you MSM brainwashed sheeple.  




1. It is waffle to YOU because you lack the capacity to ‘think’ outside of the ‘prism created for your mind’🤯
2. I will tell you what i don’t think;  
    and that’s the official story. you mean to tell me that you believe every word of the official story...honestly.....
3. Batshit according to who😆..you & others like you....what happened to your leftist views of ‘everyone is entitled to an opinion’...
4. What, you mean they are not ?😮..😆
5. Teasing out little dribs? ....more like giving you the keys to unlock the ‘critical thinking’ vaults that both inhabit and inhibit your mind. I’m not forcing you to use them.

Truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self evident.
-Schopenhauer 

I challenge you, or anyone for that matter, to live without tv for one year..including cable..and see the positive changes that take place in you...begin by substituting it with reading and music🙃
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redcup - 22 Mar 2019 4:27 PM
Reading George Orwell's books taught me many, many things. One of which was keeping the masses occupied with football and beer.

Besides his dystopian classic...... ‘Homage to Catalonia’;  about his time spent in the Spanish civil war..I recommend for anyone...
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tsf - 22 Mar 2019 12:27 PM
sydneyfc1987 - 22 Mar 2019 12:09 PM

I'd say most serious jounalists around the world lean towards the left, although most try to keep their personal view out of reporting. O'brian tbf was a press officer which a lot of political journalists are at one point or PR, and he hasn't been at the ABC for 5 years

I’d say it’s like any other industry - if you can’t cut it ad a serious journalist in the commercial world, you go work for the Public Service/ABC. 

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tsf - 22 Mar 2019 1:03 PM
Captain Haddock - 22 Mar 2019 12:39 PM

How many white people have been booed like this for their style of play?



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BA81 - 22 Mar 2019 1:37 PM
The extreme Left and Right are as evil as each other. Fact👍

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory

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its hilarious seeing athletes whinge about online trolls... get some to manage your insta or something...

try being Raheem Sterling for a day... Imagine being in a stadium of 80k+ and being booed by the entire stadium every time you touch the ball... being spat at and called a black - oops, I just ate my own poop... every time he gets near a corner... fuck we got some whinging babies here.... how did Sterling deal with this? he fucking dominated and is now the best winger in the EPL.....

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Feed_The_Brox - 22 Mar 2019 10:49 AM
sub007 - 21 Mar 2019 11:01 PM

yep. totally agree.

Enzo Bearzot - 21 Mar 2019 11:09 PM

its amazing how many poeple get communism and socialism mixed up. Bernie is not a communist. Communism is not the natural outcome of the Far Left. Its hilarious to suggest that. Democratic Socialism is the natural outcome for a leftie such as myself. And while people will refuse to admit this, Australia is in many ways a Socialist Democracy. 

Its the same shit wrapped in different paper.  Socialism is but a stepping stone to Communism.

There's only one difference between capitalism and all the other socialist/communist derivatives.  And that's personal incentive.  Everything else is detail.  Socialism/Communism fail because they deny that incentive.

What Australia does is it treads a fine line between giving enough workers incentive for personal betterment, and skim some of their wealth  to support the rest who don't give a rats.  I don't what you call that, but that's what it is.




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Reading George Orwell's books taught me many, many things. One of which was keeping the masses occupied with football and beer.

" Far right politics in Australia, how it affects Australian football " is something to write your dissertation on. To try to isolate it to one country and the concept of equality via politics is too big an ask'

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