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I suggest you watch a little less Chomsky and a little more Jordan B Peterson. https://www.youtube.com/user/JordanPetersonVideosjust looking out for your mental health bro.
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No thanks, I'd rather listen to the world's best political intellectual rather than a psychologist who's a wannabe intellectual.
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+xNo thanks, I'd rather listen to the world's best political intellectual rather than a psychologist who's a wannabe intellectual. You rather listen to a proper political intellectual than a person who think he is but is just a showman? How daft .
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+x+xNo thanks, I'd rather listen to the world's best political intellectual rather than a psychologist who's a wannabe intellectual. You rather listen to a proper political intellectual than a person who think he is but is just a showman? How daft . I know right! How stupid of me!
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I listen to a lot political vids and shows. My coworker try to tell me to listen to Alex Jones 🤣🤣. Yes my coworker is a fox news and breitbart and infowars fan
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+xI listen to a lot political vids and shows. My coworker try to tell me to listen to Alex Jones 🤣🤣. Yes my coworker is a fox news and breitbart and infowars fan Your co-worker can't be very bright then. I honestly have no idea how anyone can believe the shit Alex Jones says. Is this the same co-worker you've mentioned on here before?
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That was pretty good and pretty much spot on. Having said that if I was American I would have voted Trump over Hillary anyday of the week. Like they say, with these sort of politicians it's best to pick the less of the two evils, and for me that's Trump. We all know they all will work with the elites, regardless of what party, otherwise they wouldn't be in those high positions. I'd much rather a Trump who will make more tax cuts for the rich, over a Hillary who won't help the poor, and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent lives around the world and giggle and brag about it like a evil witch. Hillary will claim she supports refugees into America making herself look so loving, however ignore the fact they've only become refugees because she bombed the fuck out of their countries, and supported the rebels who made them flee their country.
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+xThat was pretty good and pretty much spot on. Having said that if I was American I would have voted Trump over Hillary anyday of the week. Like they say, with these sort of politicians it's best to pick the less of the two evils, and for me that's Trump. We all know they all will work with the elites, regardless of what party, otherwise they wouldn't be in those high positions. I'd much rather a Trump who will make more tax cuts for the rich, over a Hillary who won't help the poor, and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent lives around the world. Hillary will claim she supports refugees into America making herself look so loving, however ignore the fact they've only become refugees because she bombed the fuck out of their countries, and supported the rebels who made them flee their country. Trump is literally doing this as did Obama and Bush. He has increased drone strikes and is bombing 8 different countries. He is arming the Saudi blockade of Yemen. The Saudi's are fighting alongside Al-Qaeda. Hillary didn't bomb those countries, Bush and Obama did and now Trump is but on a larger scale.
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+xThat was pretty good and pretty much spot on. Having said that if I was American I would have voted Trump over Hillary anyday of the week. Like they say, with these sort of politicians it's best to pick the less of the two evils, and for me that's Trump. We all know they all will work with the elites, regardless of what party, otherwise they wouldn't be in those high positions. Agree on most of that except I would have voted for Hillary. For me, there are only two maybe Presidential candidates running in 2020 that won't work for the elites and will fight for the American people. They are Bernie Sanders, Tulsi Gabbard and maybe Elizabeth Warren. Andrew Yang has some interesting ideas (Universal basic income for example) but I'm not entirely convinced by him.
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+x+xThat was pretty good and pretty much spot on. Having said that if I was American I would have voted Trump over Hillary anyday of the week. Like they say, with these sort of politicians it's best to pick the less of the two evils, and for me that's Trump. We all know they all will work with the elites, regardless of what party, otherwise they wouldn't be in those high positions. I'd much rather a Trump who will make more tax cuts for the rich, over a Hillary who won't help the poor, and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent lives around the world. Hillary will claim she supports refugees into America making herself look so loving, however ignore the fact they've only become refugees because she bombed the fuck out of their countries, and supported the rebels who made them flee their country. Trump is literally doing this as did Obama and Bush. He has increased drone strikes and is bombing 8 different countries. He is arming the Saudi blockade of Yemen. The Saudi's are fighting alongside Al-Qaeda. Hillary didn't bomb those countries, Bush and Obama did and now Trump is but on a larger scale. I can't agree with Saudi Arabia because they've all supported them for so long now, Trump isn't doing anything different, he's just simply ignoring that matter. Hillary had alot to do with the war in Libya it wasn't only Bush and Obama her hands were extremely dirty there. Also while campaigning she clearly stated we need to get rid of Asad ect ect and kept talking bad about Putin too. At no point did she show any signs of creating peace around the world. And let's not forget the rebels she has backed for years and continues to do so are nothing other than extremist terrorist groups. Personally I'm just glad it was Trump because since he's been in ISIS in Syria has been defeated by the help of Putin, and Trump didn't stand in his way to make that mission difficult, something Hillary would have done. I agree with you 100% about Trump turning a blind eye on Saudi but again, that's been the case regardless of who's been in power for years, and like Chomsky said, the elite pull the strings at the end of the day so that issue could be something Trump has no power over if he intends to remain as president. You mentioned Bernie. With him I have no bad words he seemed genuine, but not Hillary. For me if she was ejected she would have been the most evil president America would have had. Her and her husband have nothing but form of one crime after another, and the blood of thousands of innocent people on their hands already.
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+x+x+xThat was pretty good and pretty much spot on. Having said that if I was American I would have voted Trump over Hillary anyday of the week. Like they say, with these sort of politicians it's best to pick the less of the two evils, and for me that's Trump. We all know they all will work with the elites, regardless of what party, otherwise they wouldn't be in those high positions. I'd much rather a Trump who will make more tax cuts for the rich, over a Hillary who won't help the poor, and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent lives around the world. Hillary will claim she supports refugees into America making herself look so loving, however ignore the fact they've only become refugees because she bombed the fuck out of their countries, and supported the rebels who made them flee their country. Trump is literally doing this as did Obama and Bush. He has increased drone strikes and is bombing 8 different countries. He is arming the Saudi blockade of Yemen. The Saudi's are fighting alongside Al-Qaeda. Hillary didn't bomb those countries, Bush and Obama did and now Trump is but on a larger scale. I can't agree with Saudi Arabia because they've all supported them for so long now, Trump isn't doing anything different, he's just simply ignoring that matter. Hillary had alot to do with the war in Libya it wasn't only Bush and Obama her hands were extremely dirty there. Also while campaigning she clearly stated we need to get rid of Asad ect ect and kept talking bad about Putin too. At no point did she show any signs of creating peace around the world. And let's not forget the rebels she has backed for years and continues to do so are nothing other than extremist terrorist groups. Personally I'm just glad it was Trump because since he's been in ISIS in Syria has been defeated by the help of Putin, and Trump didn't stand in his way to make that mission difficult, something Hillary would have done. I agree with you 100% about Trump turning a blind eye on Saudi but again, that's been the case regardless of who's been in power for years, and like Chomsky said, the elite pull the strings at the end of the day so that issue could be something Trump has no power over if he intends to remain as president. You mentioned Bernie. With him I have no bad words he seemed genuine, but not Hillary. For me if she was ejected she would have been the most evil president America would have had. Her and her husband have nothing but form of one crime after another, and the blood of thousands of innocent people on their hands already. Don't get me wrong I hate Hillary and I agree that she is very hawkish on foreign policy which is terrible but Trump's record on foreign policy is just as bad if not worse. To be fair to Trump, he campaigned on some anti-war rhetoric but has done the complete opposite. The Iraqi, Syrian and Kurdish armies have done most of the work in defeating ISIS although the US and Russia have both played a part. I'm not sure whether Hillary would have made it harder for Russia to help or not. Sure the elite maybe be helping Saudi but it certainly wouldn't be as bad as it it under Trump. The Saudi's are literally bribing him by paying for hotel rooms,and then getting veterans to stay there and to lobby against policies that the Saudi's oppose. Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/saudi-funded-lobbyist-paid-for-500-rooms-at-trumps-hotel-after-2016-election/2018/12/05/29603a64-f417-11e8-bc79-68604ed88993_story.html?utm_term=.add8532198b1"For me if she was ejected she would have been the most evil president America would have had. Her and her husband have nothing but form of one crime after another, and the blood of thousands of innocent people on their hands already. " That's literally Trump and he will be surely be indicted for many financial crimes as soon as he leaves office. Hillary is bad and you are right in saying she would be terrible president but Trump is even more corrupt and has the blood of thousands on innocent people on his hands too.
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+x+x+x+xThat was pretty good and pretty much spot on. Having said that if I was American I would have voted Trump over Hillary anyday of the week. Like they say, with these sort of politicians it's best to pick the less of the two evils, and for me that's Trump. We all know they all will work with the elites, regardless of what party, otherwise they wouldn't be in those high positions. I'd much rather a Trump who will make more tax cuts for the rich, over a Hillary who won't help the poor, and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent lives around the world. Hillary will claim she supports refugees into America making herself look so loving, however ignore the fact they've only become refugees because she bombed the fuck out of their countries, and supported the rebels who made them flee their country. Trump is literally doing this as did Obama and Bush. He has increased drone strikes and is bombing 8 different countries. He is arming the Saudi blockade of Yemen. The Saudi's are fighting alongside Al-Qaeda. Hillary didn't bomb those countries, Bush and Obama did and now Trump is but on a larger scale. I can't agree with Saudi Arabia because they've all supported them for so long now, Trump isn't doing anything different, he's just simply ignoring that matter. Hillary had alot to do with the war in Libya it wasn't only Bush and Obama her hands were extremely dirty there. Also while campaigning she clearly stated we need to get rid of Asad ect ect and kept talking bad about Putin too. At no point did she show any signs of creating peace around the world. And let's not forget the rebels she has backed for years and continues to do so are nothing other than extremist terrorist groups. Personally I'm just glad it was Trump because since he's been in ISIS in Syria has been defeated by the help of Putin, and Trump didn't stand in his way to make that mission difficult, something Hillary would have done. I agree with you 100% about Trump turning a blind eye on Saudi but again, that's been the case regardless of who's been in power for years, and like Chomsky said, the elite pull the strings at the end of the day so that issue could be something Trump has no power over if he intends to remain as president. You mentioned Bernie. With him I have no bad words he seemed genuine, but not Hillary. For me if she was ejected she would have been the most evil president America would have had. Her and her husband have nothing but form of one crime after another, and the blood of thousands of innocent people on their hands already. Don't get me wrong I hate Hillary and I agree that she is very hawkish on foreign policy which is terrible but Trump's record on foreign policy is just as bad if not worse. To be fair to Trump, he campaigned on some anti-war rhetoric but has done the complete opposite. The Iraqi, Syrian and Kurdish armies have done most of the work in defeating ISIS although the US and Russia have both played a part. I'm not sure whether Hillary would have made it harder for Russia to help or not. Sure the elite maybe be helping Saudi but it certainly wouldn't be as bad as it it under Trump. The Saudi's are literally bribing him by paying for hotel rooms,and then getting veterans to stay there and to lobby against policies that the Saudi's oppose. Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/saudi-funded-lobbyist-paid-for-500-rooms-at-trumps-hotel-after-2016-election/2018/12/05/29603a64-f417-11e8-bc79-68604ed88993_story.html?utm_term=.add8532198b1"For me if she was ejected she would have been the most evil president America would have had. Her and her husband have nothing but form of one crime after another, and the blood of thousands of innocent people on their hands already. " That's literally Trump and he will be surely be indicted for many financial crimes as soon as he leaves office. Hillary is bad and you are right in saying she would be terrible president but Trump is even more corrupt and has the blood of thousands on innocent people on his hands too. So in your honest opinion on Hillary, do you truly believe if elected she would have put a stop to Saudi Arabia bombing Yemen? Especially with the very well known knowledge we have of how close the Clintons are to the Saudi's. And also we already know she was behind supporting rebels in Syria, this only means the job of Syria and Russia working together to defeat these terrorist groups would have become much harder, just like it was under Obama. Forget all the corruption crimes for a minute and focus on those crimes where innocent people are bombed, and thousands murdered by so called terrorist groups we all know as rebels by the mainstream media. I honestly don't see how there can be a debate about who wanted to invade countries more between Trump and Hillary. There simply can't be a debate there. Before the election it would be fair to think so, because many were saying how Trump is short fused and he'll start one war after another ect ect, but to be fair and I'm sure you'll agree about it, he's done no such thing so far. Ignoring atrocities around the world is so much better than those committing atrocities around the world. And that's how I make my opinion up on who has more blood on their hands. It's one thing to turn a blind eye on evil acts you know about, but whole different thing when it is you committing this evil acts where hundreds of thousands of people are murdered.
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+xThat was pretty good and pretty much spot on. Having said that if I was American I would have voted Trump over Hillary anyday of the week. Like they say, with these sort of politicians it's best to pick the less of the two evils, and for me that's Trump. We all know they all will work with the elites, regardless of what party, otherwise they wouldn't be in those high positions. I'd much rather a Trump who will make more tax cuts for the rich, over a Hillary who won't help the poor, and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent lives around the world and giggle and brag about it like a evil witch. Hillary will claim she supports refugees into America making herself look so loving, however ignore the fact they've only become refugees because she bombed the fuck out of their countries, and supported the rebels who made them flee their country. I watched it and agree with some of it apart from when he said they are giving lavish gifts to the very wealthy through tax concessions - obviously referring to the reduction of the company tax rate. There was a very big economic necessity to reduce the company tax rate to be in line with other countries who are doing the same, in order to attract investment. It's the same in Australia. if Australia maintains a 30% company tax rate whilst Asia Pacific countries are reducing their rate to 10% to 15%, then we are looking at a dire recession. The LNP has a policy to reduce it to 25% I believe and then further to 22% The detractors are saying that they are looking after the big end of town, whereas the reality is that the biggest benefit is derived by small to medium enterprise not the top 1%. The big end of town are mobile and will avoid paying the 30% anyway, so the reduction is just designed to keep them invested in Australia rather than flee.
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+x+xNo thanks, I'd rather listen to the world's best political intellectual rather than a psychologist who's a wannabe intellectual. You rather listen to a proper political intellectual than a person who think he is but is just a showman? How daft . Well he stole the floor on Q&A recently and rubbed your faces in it.
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+x+xThat was pretty good and pretty much spot on. Having said that if I was American I would have voted Trump over Hillary anyday of the week. Like they say, with these sort of politicians it's best to pick the less of the two evils, and for me that's Trump. We all know they all will work with the elites, regardless of what party, otherwise they wouldn't be in those high positions. I'd much rather a Trump who will make more tax cuts for the rich, over a Hillary who won't help the poor, and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent lives around the world and giggle and brag about it like a evil witch. Hillary will claim she supports refugees into America making herself look so loving, however ignore the fact they've only become refugees because she bombed the fuck out of their countries, and supported the rebels who made them flee their country. I watched it and agree with some of it apart from when he said they are giving lavish gifts to the very wealthy through tax concessions - obviously referring to the reduction of the company tax rate. There was a very big economic necessity to reduce the company tax rate to be in line with other countries who are doing the same, in order to attract investment. It's the same in Australia. if Australia maintains a 30% company tax rate whilst Asia Pacific countries are reducing their rate to 10% to 15%. If we stay where we are, we are looking at a dire recession. The LNP has a policy to reduce it to 25% I believe and then further to 22% The detractors are saying that they are looking after the big end of town, whereas the reality is that the biggest enefit is derived by small to medium enterprise not the top 1%. The big end of town are mobile and will avoid paying the 30% anyway, so the reduction is just designed to keep them invested in Australia rather than flee. Can't argue with anything you've said there to be honest.
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+x+x+xNo thanks, I'd rather listen to the world's best political intellectual rather than a psychologist who's a wannabe intellectual. You rather listen to a proper political intellectual than a person who think he is but is just a showman? How daft . Well he stole the floor on Q&A recently and rubbed your faces in it. You have to be pretty ignorant and arrogant to ignore what Jordan says. I don't think I've done across anything he's said which I disagree with because everything he says makes perfect sense. I did agree with alot of what Chomsky said too though, he was pretty spot on, but that clip was the only thing I've seen from him.
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+x+x+x+xNo thanks, I'd rather listen to the world's best political intellectual rather than a psychologist who's a wannabe intellectual. You rather listen to a proper political intellectual than a person who think he is but is just a showman? How daft . Well he stole the floor on Q&A recently and rubbed your faces in it. You have to be pretty ignorant and arrogant to ignore what Jordan says. I don't think I've done across anything he's said which I disagree with because everything he says makes perfect sense. I did agree with alot of what Chomsky said too though, he was pretty spot on, but that clip was the only thing I've seen from him. Jordan says a lot of dumb shit and is ignorant on some of the issues he talks about.
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+x+x+xThat was pretty good and pretty much spot on. Having said that if I was American I would have voted Trump over Hillary anyday of the week. Like they say, with these sort of politicians it's best to pick the less of the two evils, and for me that's Trump. We all know they all will work with the elites, regardless of what party, otherwise they wouldn't be in those high positions. I'd much rather a Trump who will make more tax cuts for the rich, over a Hillary who won't help the poor, and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent lives around the world and giggle and brag about it like a evil witch. Hillary will claim she supports refugees into America making herself look so loving, however ignore the fact they've only become refugees because she bombed the fuck out of their countries, and supported the rebels who made them flee their country. I watched it and agree with some of it apart from when he said they are giving lavish gifts to the very wealthy through tax concessions - obviously referring to the reduction of the company tax rate. There was a very big economic necessity to reduce the company tax rate to be in line with other countries who are doing the same, in order to attract investment. It's the same in Australia. if Australia maintains a 30% company tax rate whilst Asia Pacific countries are reducing their rate to 10% to 15%. If we stay where we are, we are looking at a dire recession. The LNP has a policy to reduce it to 25% I believe and then further to 22% The detractors are saying that they are looking after the big end of town, whereas the reality is that the biggest enefit is derived by small to medium enterprise not the top 1%. The big end of town are mobile and will avoid paying the 30% anyway, so the reduction is just designed to keep them invested in Australia rather than flee. Can't argue with anything you've said there to be honest. Yeah you can. There's other ways you can stop outsourcing other than cutting taxes. And the claim that big corporations will always getting out of paying taxes is BS. They will pay their taxes if a President implements policies which force them to. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren will do this should they be elected. Tulsi Gabbard probably will too.
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+x+x+x+xThat was pretty good and pretty much spot on. Having said that if I was American I would have voted Trump over Hillary anyday of the week. Like they say, with these sort of politicians it's best to pick the less of the two evils, and for me that's Trump. We all know they all will work with the elites, regardless of what party, otherwise they wouldn't be in those high positions. I'd much rather a Trump who will make more tax cuts for the rich, over a Hillary who won't help the poor, and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent lives around the world and giggle and brag about it like a evil witch. Hillary will claim she supports refugees into America making herself look so loving, however ignore the fact they've only become refugees because she bombed the fuck out of their countries, and supported the rebels who made them flee their country. I watched it and agree with some of it apart from when he said they are giving lavish gifts to the very wealthy through tax concessions - obviously referring to the reduction of the company tax rate. There was a very big economic necessity to reduce the company tax rate to be in line with other countries who are doing the same, in order to attract investment. It's the same in Australia. if Australia maintains a 30% company tax rate whilst Asia Pacific countries are reducing their rate to 10% to 15%. If we stay where we are, we are looking at a dire recession. The LNP has a policy to reduce it to 25% I believe and then further to 22% The detractors are saying that they are looking after the big end of town, whereas the reality is that the biggest enefit is derived by small to medium enterprise not the top 1%. The big end of town are mobile and will avoid paying the 30% anyway, so the reduction is just designed to keep them invested in Australia rather than flee. Can't argue with anything you've said there to be honest. Yeah you can. There's other ways you can stop outsourcing other than cutting taxes. And the claim that big corporations will always getting out of paying taxes is BS. They will pay their taxes if a President implements policies which force them to. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren will do this should they be elected. Tulsi Gabbard probably will too. Yeh but don't you think by targeting them they'll simply take their business elsewhere, and then affect the lower income workers? Or simply reduce the amount of workers they have to make up for the increase in tax? Overall hasn't the American economy boosted since Trumps come in?
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+x+x+x+x+xNo thanks, I'd rather listen to the world's best political intellectual rather than a psychologist who's a wannabe intellectual. You rather listen to a proper political intellectual than a person who think he is but is just a showman? How daft . Well he stole the floor on Q&A recently and rubbed your faces in it. You have to be pretty ignorant and arrogant to ignore what Jordan says. I don't think I've done across anything he's said which I disagree with because everything he says makes perfect sense. I did agree with alot of what Chomsky said too though, he was pretty spot on, but that clip was the only thing I've seen from him. Jordan says a lot of dumb shit and is ignorant on some of the issues he talks about. He sure is. Watch Sam Harris take him to pieces. Also any evolutionary biologist with half a brain debunks a lot of his talking points. There are plenty of others. People love him though. He ' DESTROYS' SJW's which seems to be a big thing on the interwebs.
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+x+x+x+x+xNo thanks, I'd rather listen to the world's best political intellectual rather than a psychologist who's a wannabe intellectual. You rather listen to a proper political intellectual than a person who think he is but is just a showman? How daft . Well he stole the floor on Q&A recently and rubbed your faces in it. You have to be pretty ignorant and arrogant to ignore what Jordan says. I don't think I've done across anything he's said which I disagree with because everything he says makes perfect sense. I did agree with alot of what Chomsky said too though, he was pretty spot on, but that clip was the only thing I've seen from him. Jordan says a lot of dumb shit and is ignorant on some of the issues he talks about. He never refuses to answer questions though. That's what I love about his debates. And he backs up his claims with examples related to the question being thrown at him. Anyways overall love him or hate him, I think it's highly ignorant to claim people should simply ignore him, because believe me there is so much to learn from him. Don't get me wrong I don't watch him daily or subscribe, I'm just going off maybe 10 or so fill interviews I've seen with him and he's extremely smart in the way he answers questions. And his listening skills are unbelievable he listens closely to every single question asked, and gives a straight forward answer, which is unusual compared with many others.
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+x+x+x+x+xThat was pretty good and pretty much spot on. Having said that if I was American I would have voted Trump over Hillary anyday of the week. Like they say, with these sort of politicians it's best to pick the less of the two evils, and for me that's Trump. We all know they all will work with the elites, regardless of what party, otherwise they wouldn't be in those high positions. I'd much rather a Trump who will make more tax cuts for the rich, over a Hillary who won't help the poor, and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent lives around the world. Hillary will claim she supports refugees into America making herself look so loving, however ignore the fact they've only become refugees because she bombed the fuck out of their countries, and supported the rebels who made them flee their country. Trump is literally doing this as did Obama and Bush. He has increased drone strikes and is bombing 8 different countries. He is arming the Saudi blockade of Yemen. The Saudi's are fighting alongside Al-Qaeda. Hillary didn't bomb those countries, Bush and Obama did and now Trump is but on a larger scale. I can't agree with Saudi Arabia because they've all supported them for so long now, Trump isn't doing anything different, he's just simply ignoring that matter. Hillary had alot to do with the war in Libya it wasn't only Bush and Obama her hands were extremely dirty there. Also while campaigning she clearly stated we need to get rid of Asad ect ect and kept talking bad about Putin too. At no point did she show any signs of creating peace around the world. And let's not forget the rebels she has backed for years and continues to do so are nothing other than extremist terrorist groups. Personally I'm just glad it was Trump because since he's been in ISIS in Syria has been defeated by the help of Putin, and Trump didn't stand in his way to make that mission difficult, something Hillary would have done. I agree with you 100% about Trump turning a blind eye on Saudi but again, that's been the case regardless of who's been in power for years, and like Chomsky said, the elite pull the strings at the end of the day so that issue could be something Trump has no power over if he intends to remain as president. You mentioned Bernie. With him I have no bad words he seemed genuine, but not Hillary. For me if she was ejected she would have been the most evil president America would have had. Her and her husband have nothing but form of one crime after another, and the blood of thousands of innocent people on their hands already. Don't get me wrong I hate Hillary and I agree that she is very hawkish on foreign policy which is terrible but Trump's record on foreign policy is just as bad if not worse. To be fair to Trump, he campaigned on some anti-war rhetoric but has done the complete opposite. The Iraqi, Syrian and Kurdish armies have done most of the work in defeating ISIS although the US and Russia have both played a part. I'm not sure whether Hillary would have made it harder for Russia to help or not. Sure the elite maybe be helping Saudi but it certainly wouldn't be as bad as it it under Trump. The Saudi's are literally bribing him by paying for hotel rooms,and then getting veterans to stay there and to lobby against policies that the Saudi's oppose. Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/saudi-funded-lobbyist-paid-for-500-rooms-at-trumps-hotel-after-2016-election/2018/12/05/29603a64-f417-11e8-bc79-68604ed88993_story.html?utm_term=.add8532198b1"For me if she was ejected she would have been the most evil president America would have had. Her and her husband have nothing but form of one crime after another, and the blood of thousands of innocent people on their hands already. " That's literally Trump and he will be surely be indicted for many financial crimes as soon as he leaves office. Hillary is bad and you are right in saying she would be terrible president but Trump is even more corrupt and has the blood of thousands on innocent people on his hands too. So in your honest opinion on Hillary, do you truly believe if elected she would have put a stop to Saudi Arabia bombing Yemen? Especially with the very well known knowledge we have of how close the Clintons are to the Saudi's. And also we already know she was behind supporting rebels in Syria, this only means the job of Syria and Russia working together to defeat these terrorist groups would have become much harder, just like it was under Obama. Forget all the corruption crimes for a minute and focus on those crimes where innocent people are bombed, and thousands murdered by so called terrorist groups we all know as rebels by the mainstream media. I honestly don't see how there can be a debate about who wanted to invade countries more between Trump and Hillary. There simply can't be a debate there. Before the election it would be fair to think so, because many were saying how Trump is short fused and he'll start one war after another ect ect, but to be fair and I'm sure you'll agree about it, he's done no such thing so far. Ignoring atrocities around the world is so much better than those committing atrocities around the world. And that's how I make my opinion up on who has more blood on their hands. It's one thing to turn a blind eye on evil acts you know about, but whole different thing when it is you committing this evil acts where hundreds of thousands of people are murdered. "So in your honest opinion on Hillary, do you truly believe if elected she would have put a stop to Saudi Arabia bombing Yemen? Especially with the very well known knowledge we have of how close the Clintons are to the Saudi's." She might not be able to get the Saudi's to stop it but she wouldn't be bribed by the Saudi and arm the Saudi blockade of Yemen. "Forget all the corruption crimes for a minute and focus on those crimes where innocent people are bombed, and thousands murdered by so called terrorist groups we all know as rebels by the mainstream media. " Trump has increased drone strikes and is bombing 8 different countries. Many of the victims are innocent civilians too. Also many of the rebels in Syria are in fact jihadists. The US government is also trying to implement regime change in Iran and Venezuela. This could result in even more war. Trump even tweeted that the US doesn't recognise the Venezuelan President and the US instead recognises the opposition leader. You cannot do that. Just imagine if another random country around the world took a dislike to ScoMo and declared Bill Shorten as Prime Minister.
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+x+x+x+x+xThat was pretty good and pretty much spot on. Having said that if I was American I would have voted Trump over Hillary anyday of the week. Like they say, with these sort of politicians it's best to pick the less of the two evils, and for me that's Trump. We all know they all will work with the elites, regardless of what party, otherwise they wouldn't be in those high positions. I'd much rather a Trump who will make more tax cuts for the rich, over a Hillary who won't help the poor, and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent lives around the world and giggle and brag about it like a evil witch. Hillary will claim she supports refugees into America making herself look so loving, however ignore the fact they've only become refugees because she bombed the fuck out of their countries, and supported the rebels who made them flee their country. I watched it and agree with some of it apart from when he said they are giving lavish gifts to the very wealthy through tax concessions - obviously referring to the reduction of the company tax rate. There was a very big economic necessity to reduce the company tax rate to be in line with other countries who are doing the same, in order to attract investment. It's the same in Australia. if Australia maintains a 30% company tax rate whilst Asia Pacific countries are reducing their rate to 10% to 15%. If we stay where we are, we are looking at a dire recession. The LNP has a policy to reduce it to 25% I believe and then further to 22% The detractors are saying that they are looking after the big end of town, whereas the reality is that the biggest enefit is derived by small to medium enterprise not the top 1%. The big end of town are mobile and will avoid paying the 30% anyway, so the reduction is just designed to keep them invested in Australia rather than flee. Can't argue with anything you've said there to be honest. Yeah you can. There's other ways you can stop outsourcing other than cutting taxes. And the claim that big corporations will always getting out of paying taxes is BS. They will pay their taxes if a President implements policies which force them to. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren will do this should they be elected. Tulsi Gabbard probably will too. Yeh but don't you think by targeting them they'll simply take their business elsewhere, and then affect the lower income workers? Or simply reduce the amount of workers they have to make up for the increase in tax? Overall hasn't the American economy boosted since Trumps come in? So you reduce taxes to stop them leaving and then another country cuts their's to attract business so then you have to cut yours and so on and so on ad infinitum. It's a race to the bottom. Pure and simple. And then where does the money come from to pay for services? If you're not taxing the rich, and you're not taxing companies then you have to be taxing the lower and middle classes. Yeah nah. Fuck that.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xNo thanks, I'd rather listen to the world's best political intellectual rather than a psychologist who's a wannabe intellectual. You rather listen to a proper political intellectual than a person who think he is but is just a showman? How daft . Well he stole the floor on Q&A recently and rubbed your faces in it. You have to be pretty ignorant and arrogant to ignore what Jordan says. I don't think I've done across anything he's said which I disagree with because everything he says makes perfect sense. I did agree with alot of what Chomsky said too though, he was pretty spot on, but that clip was the only thing I've seen from him. Jordan says a lot of dumb shit and is ignorant on some of the issues he talks about. He sure is. Watch Sam Harris take him to pieces. Also any evolutionary biologist with half a brain debunks a lot of his talking points. There are plenty of others. People love him though. He ' DESTROYS' SJW's which seems to be a big thing on the interwebs. I'll have to watch this one. Just had a look on YouTube is it roughly 2 hours? If so I'll have a listen after work.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xNo thanks, I'd rather listen to the world's best political intellectual rather than a psychologist who's a wannabe intellectual. You rather listen to a proper political intellectual than a person who think he is but is just a showman? How daft . Well he stole the floor on Q&A recently and rubbed your faces in it. You have to be pretty ignorant and arrogant to ignore what Jordan says. I don't think I've done across anything he's said which I disagree with because everything he says makes perfect sense. I did agree with alot of what Chomsky said too though, he was pretty spot on, but that clip was the only thing I've seen from him. Jordan says a lot of dumb shit and is ignorant on some of the issues he talks about. He never refuses to answer questions though. That's what I love about his debates. And he backs up his claims with examples related to the question being thrown at him. Anyways overall love him or hate him, I think it's highly ignorant to claim people should simply ignore him, because believe me there is so much to learn from him. Don't get me wrong I don't watch him daily or subscribe, I'm just going off maybe 10 or so fill interviews I've seen with him and he's extremely smart in the way he answers questions. And his listening skills are unbelievable he listens closely to every single question asked, and gives a straight forward answer, which is unusual compared with many others. Yes he does refuse to answer questions. Watch any clip where they ask him if he believes in God. Would've thought that'd be pretty cut and dried. It's either, yes, no or I'm not sure. Watch him waffle for 20 minutes or more with a non-answer. I was sucked in for a bit by the cult of Peterson but you only have to watch him for a while to see he repeats his talking points over and over and most of those, particularly where he strays away from his field of expertise, are easily misproven or debunked by experts in the other fields he has no qualifications in.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xNo thanks, I'd rather listen to the world's best political intellectual rather than a psychologist who's a wannabe intellectual. You rather listen to a proper political intellectual than a person who think he is but is just a showman? How daft . Well he stole the floor on Q&A recently and rubbed your faces in it. You have to be pretty ignorant and arrogant to ignore what Jordan says. I don't think I've done across anything he's said which I disagree with because everything he says makes perfect sense. I did agree with alot of what Chomsky said too though, he was pretty spot on, but that clip was the only thing I've seen from him. Jordan says a lot of dumb shit and is ignorant on some of the issues he talks about. He sure is. Watch Sam Harris take him to pieces. Also any evolutionary biologist with half a brain debunks a lot of his talking points. There are plenty of others. People love him though. He ' DESTROYS' SJW's which seems to be a big thing on the interwebs. I'll have to watch this one. Just had a look on YouTube is it roughly 2 hours? If so I'll have a listen after work. It's not just one clip. Search 'Peterson' and every second clip is 'destroys'. It's the go-to click bait title.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xThat was pretty good and pretty much spot on. Having said that if I was American I would have voted Trump over Hillary anyday of the week. Like they say, with these sort of politicians it's best to pick the less of the two evils, and for me that's Trump. We all know they all will work with the elites, regardless of what party, otherwise they wouldn't be in those high positions. I'd much rather a Trump who will make more tax cuts for the rich, over a Hillary who won't help the poor, and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent lives around the world. Hillary will claim she supports refugees into America making herself look so loving, however ignore the fact they've only become refugees because she bombed the fuck out of their countries, and supported the rebels who made them flee their country. Trump is literally doing this as did Obama and Bush. He has increased drone strikes and is bombing 8 different countries. He is arming the Saudi blockade of Yemen. The Saudi's are fighting alongside Al-Qaeda. Hillary didn't bomb those countries, Bush and Obama did and now Trump is but on a larger scale. I can't agree with Saudi Arabia because they've all supported them for so long now, Trump isn't doing anything different, he's just simply ignoring that matter. Hillary had alot to do with the war in Libya it wasn't only Bush and Obama her hands were extremely dirty there. Also while campaigning she clearly stated we need to get rid of Asad ect ect and kept talking bad about Putin too. At no point did she show any signs of creating peace around the world. And let's not forget the rebels she has backed for years and continues to do so are nothing other than extremist terrorist groups. Personally I'm just glad it was Trump because since he's been in ISIS in Syria has been defeated by the help of Putin, and Trump didn't stand in his way to make that mission difficult, something Hillary would have done. I agree with you 100% about Trump turning a blind eye on Saudi but again, that's been the case regardless of who's been in power for years, and like Chomsky said, the elite pull the strings at the end of the day so that issue could be something Trump has no power over if he intends to remain as president. You mentioned Bernie. With him I have no bad words he seemed genuine, but not Hillary. For me if she was ejected she would have been the most evil president America would have had. Her and her husband have nothing but form of one crime after another, and the blood of thousands of innocent people on their hands already. Don't get me wrong I hate Hillary and I agree that she is very hawkish on foreign policy which is terrible but Trump's record on foreign policy is just as bad if not worse. To be fair to Trump, he campaigned on some anti-war rhetoric but has done the complete opposite. The Iraqi, Syrian and Kurdish armies have done most of the work in defeating ISIS although the US and Russia have both played a part. I'm not sure whether Hillary would have made it harder for Russia to help or not. Sure the elite maybe be helping Saudi but it certainly wouldn't be as bad as it it under Trump. The Saudi's are literally bribing him by paying for hotel rooms,and then getting veterans to stay there and to lobby against policies that the Saudi's oppose. Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/saudi-funded-lobbyist-paid-for-500-rooms-at-trumps-hotel-after-2016-election/2018/12/05/29603a64-f417-11e8-bc79-68604ed88993_story.html?utm_term=.add8532198b1"For me if she was ejected she would have been the most evil president America would have had. Her and her husband have nothing but form of one crime after another, and the blood of thousands of innocent people on their hands already. " That's literally Trump and he will be surely be indicted for many financial crimes as soon as he leaves office. Hillary is bad and you are right in saying she would be terrible president but Trump is even more corrupt and has the blood of thousands on innocent people on his hands too. So in your honest opinion on Hillary, do you truly believe if elected she would have put a stop to Saudi Arabia bombing Yemen? Especially with the very well known knowledge we have of how close the Clintons are to the Saudi's. And also we already know she was behind supporting rebels in Syria, this only means the job of Syria and Russia working together to defeat these terrorist groups would have become much harder, just like it was under Obama. Forget all the corruption crimes for a minute and focus on those crimes where innocent people are bombed, and thousands murdered by so called terrorist groups we all know as rebels by the mainstream media. I honestly don't see how there can be a debate about who wanted to invade countries more between Trump and Hillary. There simply can't be a debate there. Before the election it would be fair to think so, because many were saying how Trump is short fused and he'll start one war after another ect ect, but to be fair and I'm sure you'll agree about it, he's done no such thing so far. Ignoring atrocities around the world is so much better than those committing atrocities around the world. And that's how I make my opinion up on who has more blood on their hands. It's one thing to turn a blind eye on evil acts you know about, but whole different thing when it is you committing this evil acts where hundreds of thousands of people are murdered. "So in your honest opinion on Hillary, do you truly believe if elected she would have put a stop to Saudi Arabia bombing Yemen? Especially with the very well known knowledge we have of how close the Clintons are to the Saudi's." She might not be able to get the Saudi's to stop it but she wouldn't be bribed by the Saudi and arm the Saudi blockade of Yemen. "Forget all the corruption crimes for a minute and focus on those crimes where innocent people are bombed, and thousands murdered by so called terrorist groups we all know as rebels by the mainstream media. " Trump has increased drone strikes and is bombing 8 different countries. Many of the victims are innocent civilians too. Also many of the rebels in Syria are in fact jihadists. The US government is also trying to implement regime change in Iran and Venezuela. This could result in even more war. Trump even tweeted that the US doesn't recognise the Venezuelan President and the US instead recognises the opposition leader. You cannot do that. Just imagine if another random country around the world took a dislike to ScoMo and declared Bill Shorten as Prime Minister. America has been doing this for years already, especially the Clintons. Sorry but I just can't agree with anything you say about either Clinton. I'd agree with you about Bernie but not Hillary. Also I've already been saying that the rebels are terrorists all along, it's the mainstream media refereeing to people beheading others as rebels, not me.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xNo thanks, I'd rather listen to the world's best political intellectual rather than a psychologist who's a wannabe intellectual. You rather listen to a proper political intellectual than a person who think he is but is just a showman? How daft . Well he stole the floor on Q&A recently and rubbed your faces in it. You have to be pretty ignorant and arrogant to ignore what Jordan says. I don't think I've done across anything he's said which I disagree with because everything he says makes perfect sense. I did agree with alot of what Chomsky said too though, he was pretty spot on, but that clip was the only thing I've seen from him. Jordan says a lot of dumb shit and is ignorant on some of the issues he talks about. He never refuses to answer questions though. That's what I love about his debates. And he backs up his claims with examples related to the question being thrown at him. Anyways overall love him or hate him, I think it's highly ignorant to claim people should simply ignore him, because believe me there is so much to learn from him. Don't get me wrong I don't watch him daily or subscribe, I'm just going off maybe 10 or so fill interviews I've seen with him and he's extremely smart in the way he answers questions. And his listening skills are unbelievable he listens closely to every single question asked, and gives a straight forward answer, which is unusual compared with many others. Yes he does refuse to answer questions. Watch any clip where they ask him if he believes in God. Would've thought that'd be pretty cut and dried. It's either, yes, no or I'm not sure. Watch him waffle for 20 minutes or more with a non-answer. I was sucked in for a bit by the cult of Peterson but you only have to watch him for a while to see he repeats his talking points over and over and most of those, particularly where he strays away from his field of expertise, are easily misproven or debunked by experts in the other fields he has no qualifications in. On the question of God I saw one interview where he asked what do you mean, as in there are people who say they believe in God, yet do nothing that prove they actually do believe, and then there's those that believe, and actually follow the scripture. After the question was repeated, I'm pretty sure he said he does, unless I'm wrong. But anyways I'll have a look at the 2 hour clip you mentioned first.
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+xThe US government is also trying to implement regime change in Iran and Venezuela. This could result in even more war. Trump even tweeted that the US doesn't recognise the Venezuelan President and the US instead recognises the opposition leader. You cannot do that. Just imagine if another random country around the world took a dislike to ScoMo and declared Bill Shorten as Prime Minister. I agree with pretty much everything you're saying but in the case of Venezuela its a bit of a special case. Maduro has done some real dodgy and undemocratic stuff. According to the constitution of Venezuela, the President of the National Assembly should be the president in this situation which is Guiado. What Trump is doing with Iran is perplexing though.
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+x+x+x+xNo thanks, I'd rather listen to the world's best political intellectual rather than a psychologist who's a wannabe intellectual. You rather listen to a proper political intellectual than a person who think he is but is just a showman? How daft . Well he stole the floor on Q&A recently and rubbed your faces in it. You have to be pretty ignorant and arrogant to ignore what Jordan says. I don't think I've done across anything he's said which I disagree with because everything he says makes perfect sense. I did agree with alot of what Chomsky said too though, he was pretty spot on, but that clip was the only thing I've seen from him. He is pretty good. I find most of his stuff quite reasoned actually. As i said, Chomsky is an intelligent fella and puts in great arguments with everything. Lots of stuff I agree with him over. Fundamentally though, he is a socialist and subscribes to this failed philosophy. Some arguments he puts forward are still valid but he does let a lot of socialist ideology get in the way and this is where he fails. He is an ideologue. He subscribes to the theory that the GOP is for the big end of town and always have been and he cites the tax cuts as proof. I completely disagree with this because I believe that reducing the company tax rate is a completely rational and realistic thing to do which ultimately attracts investment, creates more jobs and keeps the economy going. What these people always seem to forget is that the top 1% will always flee to the lower tax havens and take their money and jobs out of Australia. Is the little corner deli that is however stuck and condemned to pay the 30%
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