You Know What Really Grinds My Gears?


You Know What Really Grinds My Gears?

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Everyone's anti-abortion until they've had an early 20's pregnancy scare lul
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robstazzz - 15 May 2019 10:05 PM
Munrubenmuz - 15 May 2019 9:33 PM

Are people seriously that stupid that to think they wouldn't go for a check up after being raped, knowing very well this law exists?
You can still get an abortion so long as it's done before 6 weeks. If after 6 weeks you're that fucking dumb that you can't understand what to do, then you shouldn't be given the green light to kill your own baby. 
I can't understand how anyone supports abortion once there is a heartbeat. 
At what point do people need to be responsible and make their decision in a certain time frame?


Yeah so a 14 or 15 year old girl who was pressured into having sex for the first time is going to know they're pregnant after 6 weeks. I'd imagine in some of these backward joints you can't even get a pregnancy test from the supermarket. And even if you could in a small town everyone is going to know you bought one. The pressure and shame on these poor girls must be awful.

Honestly, until they start showing, they're going to be hoping they're not pregnant.  This is awful in every way.

It's ironic that America went to fight against the Taliban, in part, because of their religious extremism and as sub007 is saying they're effectively on the same page.




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Munrubenmuz - 16 May 2019 7:44 AM
robstazzz - 15 May 2019 10:05 PM

Yeah so a 14 or 15 year old girl who was pressured into having sex for the first time is going to know they're pregnant after 6 weeks. I'd imagine in some of these backward joints you can't even get a pregnancy test from the supermarket. And even if you could in a small town everyone is going to know you bought one. The pressure and shame on these poor girls must be awful.

Honestly, until they start showing, they're going to be hoping they're not pregnant.  This is awful in every way.

It's ironic that America went to fight against the Taliban, in part, because of their religious extremism and as sub007 is saying they're effectively on the same page.


A girl that is 14 or 15 should be responsible and not have sex. I actually blame the parents for being unfit and not teaching their daughter to protect their bodies.

They have a lifetime to have sex. Why have it at 14 years of age?

People are also neglecting the rights of the unborn being carried inside. They too are a living being and people are denying this fact.

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mouflonrouge - 16 May 2019 8:12 AM
Munrubenmuz - 16 May 2019 7:44 AM

A girl that is 14 or 15 should be responsible and not have sex. I actually blame the parents for being unfit and not teaching their daughter to protect their bodies.

They have a lifetime to have sex. Why have it at 14 years of age?

Welp, there it is.
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433 - 16 May 2019 11:54 AM
mouflonrouge - 16 May 2019 8:12 AM

Welp, there it is.

Yep.


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433 - 16 May 2019 11:54 AM
mouflonrouge - 16 May 2019 8:12 AM

Welp, there it is.

Literally nothing but a bait troll.

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433 - 16 May 2019 11:54 AM
mouflonrouge - 16 May 2019 8:12 AM

Welp, there it is.

So you find it acceptable that your 14 year old daughter should be having sex?

Mmmm....rightio....

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There it is again. Fails with the first two bites then tries a totally untrue accusation for the third. 

Classic.

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Munrubenmuz - 16 May 2019 7:44 AM
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Yeah so a 14 or 15 year old girl who was pressured into having sex for the first time is going to know they're pregnant after 6 weeks. I'd imagine in some of these backward joints you can't even get a pregnancy test from the supermarket. And even if you could in a small town everyone is going to know you bought one. The pressure and shame on these poor girls must be awful.

Honestly, until they start showing, they're going to be hoping they're not pregnant.  This is awful in every way.

It's ironic that America went to fight against the Taliban, in part, because of their religious extremism and as sub007 is saying they're effectively on the same page.


You're pretending to be delusional if you think a 14 year old having sex in 2019 and onwards doesn't understand there's a chance she could be pregnant. 
Also what's your take on a man who kicks his beats his partner up and she loses the baby, personally for me I'd charge him for murder of the baby. So considering you don't think abortion is murder then basically under your law you'd charge this man with something as little as assault right?
Because remember the baby was only 2 months old. 
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Jesus fucking christ.


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robstazzz - 16 May 2019 5:52 PM
Munrubenmuz - 16 May 2019 7:44 AM

You're pretending to be delusional if you think a 14 year old having sex in 2019 and onwards doesn't understand there's a chance she could be pregnant. 
Also what's your take on a man who kicks his beats his partner up and she loses the baby, personally for me I'd charge him for murder of the baby. So considering you don't think abortion is murder then basically under your law you'd charge this man with something as little as assault right?
Because remember the baby was only 2 months old. 

Of course they understand they can get pregnant.  Do they think it will happen to them?  Of course not.

You people sicken me.  Under the proposed laws someone who gets an abortion, travels outside the state for an abortion or performs an abortion can be jailed for 99 years or possibly be sentenced to death.

Meanwhile the rapist would be out of jail anywhere from 1 year to 10 years.  What the fuck world do you pigs live in where you think that is fair, just or right?  



As for assaulting a partner and causing a miscarriage I definitely think that should have some bearing on their sentence.  100% it should.  I wouldn't classify a foetus without a nervous system a 'person' as such but there is a line there somewhere.  For fuckheads like ol mate it's at conception, for others it's 12 weeks and for others again it's later than that.


And BTW.  You do know that even with contraception a woman can get pregnant.  Think you're so special and wonderful and think that it couldn't happen to you?  Next time you're in the bathroom pick up the wife's pill packet.  If she's on the mini-pill, which a lot of girls are, then you can clearly read where it says it is 95% effective.  

In other words you have a 1 in 20 chance of having a baby EVEN on the pill.  Have any sort of semblance of an average 3 times a week sex life and after a while you could be unlucky enough to be picking up nappies from Woolies in very short order.

You sanctimonious religious nutcases won't be happy until we are all living an evangelical lifestyle.  So much for turning the other cheek.

And before you kick off at me have a look at the vast majority or Christians who take contraception in direct contravention of the teaching and edicts of the bible, the pope and the church.  Fucking hypocrites all of them. 

And unless you're willing to have 14 children or more you're just as pathetic and hypocritical as the rest of them. 

You and others don't believe in abortion then good for you, don't have one.  But there's no way in a free society should any religious nutjobs be telling any athiest, agnostic or secular person what the hell they should be able to do with their life.

It's a disgrace.

I feel ill having even responded to your drivel.






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Munrubenmuz - 16 May 2019 6:22 PM
robstazzz - 16 May 2019 5:52 PM

Of course they understand they can get pregnant.  Do they think it will happen to them?  Of course not.

You people sicken me.  Under the proposed laws someone who gets an abortion, travels outside the state for an abortion or performs an abortion can be jailed for 99 years or possibly be sentenced to death.

Meanwhile the rapist would be out of jail anywhere from 1 year to 10 years.  What the fuck world do you pigs live in where you think that is fair, just or right?  



As for assaulting a partner and causing a miscarriage I definitely think that should have some bearing on their sentence.  100% it should.  I wouldn't classify a foetus without a nervous system a 'person' as such but there is a line there somewhere.  For fuckheads like ol mate it's at conception, for others it's 12 weeks and for others again it's later than that.


And BTW.  You do know that even with contraception a woman can get pregnant.  Think you're so special and wonderful and think that it couldn't happen to you?  Next time you're in the bathroom pick up the wife's pill packet.  If she's on the mini-pill, which a lot of girls are, then you can clearly read where it says it is 95% effective.  

In other words you have a 1 in 20 chance of having a baby EVEN on the pill.  Have any sort of semblance of an average 3 times a week sex life and after a while you could be unlucky enough to be picking up nappies from Woolies in very short order.

You sanctimonious religious nutcases won't be happy until we are all living an evangelical lifestyle.  So much for turning the other cheek.

And before you kick off at me have a look at the vast majority or Christians who take contraception in direct contravention of the teaching and edicts of the bible, the pope and the church.  Fucking hypocrites all of them. 

And unless you're willing to have 14 children or more you're just as pathetic and hypocritical as the rest of them. 

You and others don't believe in abortion then good for you, don't have one.  But there's no way in a free society should any religious nutjobs be telling any athiest, agnostic or secular person what the hell they should be able to do with their life.

It's a disgrace.

I feel ill having even responded to your drivel.




Thank you. In future shut the fuck up you piece of shit and don't ever tell me what I should or shouldn't believe in, what I teach my kids to believe in, and what a Christian school has a right to teach or not to teach, and let the Christians live there life the way they choose you hypocritical fuckwit. 
I asked a simple question and you went all retarded talking about things I didn't bring up, talked about a rapist getting 10 years as if I'm okay with it, then brought in how there's a chance of getting pregnant even when you've tried not to ect ect ect. All these things that had fuck all to do with what I said. 
Abortion before 6 weeks is fine you fruit loop, if by then you haven't made up your mind and there's a heartbeat then it's murder for me that's what I believe. People need to learn to be responsible. 
I just find it so fucking retarded that it's perfectly normal for a dumb fuck like you to continue to attack Christians at every attempt, yet complain when a Christian hasn't attacked you, but simply tells you their belief. 
Fuck I'd hate to see how disrespectful and pathetic your kids turn out considering how badly you lack any morals. 
For someone who thinks he's so smart you clearly don't have a clue about how to debate anything. 
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robstazzz - 16 May 2019 6:50 PM
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Thank you. In future shut the fuck up you piece of shit and don't ever tell me what I should or shouldn't believe in, what I teach my kids to believe in, and what a Christian school has a right to teach or not to teach, and let the Christians live there life the way they choose you hypocritical fuckwit. 
I asked a simple question and you went all retarded talking about things I didn't bring up, talked about a rapist getting 10 years as if I'm okay with it, then brought in how there's a chance of getting pregnant even when you've tried not to ect ect ect. All these things that had fuck all to do with what I said. 
Abortion before 6 weeks is fine you fruit loop, if by then you haven't made up your mind and there's a heartbeat then it's murder for me that's what I believe. People need to learn to be responsible. 
I just find it so fucking retarded that it's perfectly normal for a dumb fuck like you to continue to attack Christians at every attempt, yet complain when a Christian hasn't attacked you, but simply tells you their belief. 
Fuck I'd hate to see how disrespectful and pathetic your kids turn out considering how badly you lack any morals. 
For someone who thinks he's so smart you clearly don't have a clue about how to debate anything. 

Let me guess you found God later in life ? I found that the biggest religious fundamentalists are born again Christians.  As someone who was born catholic I find your type of religiousness mind numbing 
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> 'You lack morals'
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> Implies that a woman choosing to get an abortion should carry the same consequences as a man murdering an unborn child

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Abortion before this completely arbitrary point (a heartbeat) is 100% ok, but anything after that is baby-murder? So in Robstazz eyes, the only thing that qualifies personhood is a heartbeat? Seems kinda stupid and arbitrary tbh, you could make the same argument for animals being worthy of personhood in that case.

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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 16 May 2019 6:57 PM
robstazzz - 16 May 2019 6:50 PM

Let me guess you found God later in life ? I found that the biggest religious fundamentalists are born again Christians.  As someone who was born catholic I find your type of religiousness mind numbing 

No I was born into it, always been Christian and never doubted. Nice try hero. 


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jlm8695 - 16 May 2019 7:08 PM
> 'You lack morals'
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> Implies that a woman choosing to get an abortion should carry the same consequences as a man murdering an unborn child

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Did I? Or did I simply ask the question of what his views were?


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433 - 16 May 2019 7:35 PM
Abortion before this completely arbitrary point (a heartbeat) is 100% ok, but anything after that is baby-murder? So in Robstazz eyes, the only thing that qualifies personhood is a heartbeat? Seems kinda stupid and arbitrary tbh, you could make the same argument for animals being worthy of personhood in that case.

Yes I'm sure you could. So sad. 
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My point is that you’re full of shit Rob. If you honestly thought that life begins at conception and that all life is sacred yadda yadda, you wouldn’t think having an abortion before 6 weeks is acceptable. Either it’s all acceptable or none of it is, otherwise you think it’s cool to murder a week-old living thing.
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robstazzz - 16 May 2019 5:52 PM
Munrubenmuz - 16 May 2019 7:44 AM

You're pretending to be delusional if you think a 14 year old having sex in 2019 and onwards doesn't understand there's a chance she could be pregnant. 
Also what's your take on a man who kicks his beats his partner up and she loses the baby, personally for me I'd charge him for murder of the baby. So considering you don't think abortion is murder then basically under your law you'd charge this man with something as little as assault right?
Because remember the baby was only 2 months old. 

I would accuse this man of murder as well, on top of assault against the mother.

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robstazzz - 16 May 2019 6:50 PM
Munrubenmuz - 16 May 2019 6:22 PM

Thank you. In future shut the fuck up you piece of shit and don't ever tell me what I should or shouldn't believe in, what I teach my kids to believe in, and what a Christian school has a right to teach or not to teach, and let the Christians live there life the way they choose you hypocritical fuckwit. 
I asked a simple question and you went all retarded talking about things I didn't bring up, talked about a rapist getting 10 years as if I'm okay with it, then brought in how there's a chance of getting pregnant even when you've tried not to ect ect ect. All these things that had fuck all to do with what I said. 
Abortion before 6 weeks is fine you fruit loop, if by then you haven't made up your mind and there's a heartbeat then it's murder for me that's what I believe. People need to learn to be responsible. 
I just find it so fucking retarded that it's perfectly normal for a dumb fuck like you to continue to attack Christians at every attempt, yet complain when a Christian hasn't attacked you, but simply tells you their belief. 
Fuck I'd hate to see how disrespectful and pathetic your kids turn out considering how badly you lack any morals. 
For someone who thinks he's so smart you clearly don't have a clue about how to debate anything. 

Exactly right. And let's face it. It is about 1000 times less likely that our daughters will face such a predicament, because they are taught to be modest and protect their bodies.

This is the whole issue with society today. More children are going to get pregnant and the State is going to murder more unborn children which are living organisms because people are being taught to not worry about being responsible for their actions.

It's ok to bonk yourselves silly at 14, because it doesn't matter if you get pregnant. We will just let you get an abortion.

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433 - 16 May 2019 7:47 PM
My point is that you’re full of shit Rob. If you honestly thought that life begins at conception and that all life is sacred yadda yadda, you wouldn’t think having an abortion before 6 weeks is acceptable. Either it’s all acceptable or none of it is, otherwise you think it’s cool to murder a week-old living thing.

Again you're putting words in my mouth. Religiously I know it isn't acceptable and a sin regardless, however in the case of rape I'm saying I'd understand if someone chose to get an abortion so long as it is before the 6 weeks. 
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mouflonrouge - 16 May 2019 7:52 PM
robstazzz - 16 May 2019 5:52 PM

I would accuse this man of murder as well, on top of assault against the mother.

 Agreed. 
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robstazzz - 16 May 2019 8:05 PM
433 - 16 May 2019 7:47 PM

Again you're putting words in my mouth. Religiously I know it isn't acceptable and a sin regardless, however in the case of rape I'm saying I'd understand if someone chose to get an abortion so long as it is before the 6 weeks. 

So you're happy for an innocent living thing to die if it so happens that it was conceived by rape? Why do living things conceived in consexual sex deserve to live more than things conceived by rape?
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jlm8695 - 16 May 2019 7:08 PM
> 'You lack morals'
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> Implies that a woman choosing to get an abortion should carry the same consequences as a man murdering an unborn child

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My favourite is the standard "don't tell me what to believe in" that always goes hand in hand with literally forcing their beliefs on others, in this case through FUCKING LAW. 

Organised religion and hypocrisy: Irrevocably joined. 

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433 - 16 May 2019 8:08 PM
robstazzz - 16 May 2019 8:05 PM

So you're happy for an innocent living thing to die if it so happens that it was conceived by rape? Why do living things conceived in consexual sex deserve to live more than things conceived by rape?

Only in exceptional circumstances he told you - such as rape or to protect the mother.

Religiously it isn't acceptable at all but most Christians are giving due regard to victims of rape. Christians are compassionate because that is what we are taught. Compassionate to the mother and the unborn. You are only being compassionate to the mother and blatantly disregarding the unborn and that is wrong.

Now, also remember, blessed is the mother who goes through with the birth...I will leave you with that one to ponder over.

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sydneyfc1987 - 16 May 2019 8:12 PM
jlm8695 - 16 May 2019 7:08 PM

My favourite is the standard "don't tell me what to believe in" that always goes hand in hand with literally forcing their beliefs on others, in this case through FUCKING LAW. 

Organised religion and hypocrisy: Irrevocably joined. 

My religion does not force its beliefs on any other and my religion was founded in circa 33 AD. You have to seek and ask for yourself.

our Church's are open to all who want to come. It's high traditional that still practices age old sacriments.

So please do not generalize. There are many religions that are not pure but that doesn't mean all are like that. The religion I belong to, has not changed for 2000 years and was founded by Paul.

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mouflonrouge - 16 May 2019 8:26 PM
433 - 16 May 2019 8:08 PM

Only in exceptional circumstances he told you - such as rape or to protect the mother.

Religiously it isn't acceptable at all but most Christians are giving due regard to victims of rape. Christians are compassionate because that is what we are taught. Compassionate to the mother and the unborn.

It's not really compassionate to the unborn child of a rapist if you think they're not as worthy of life as someone borne of consexual sex. 

Personally, I don't consider a lump of cells a person, so I don't care about aborting either of them. But for someone who claims that that lump of cells is a person and therefore should be protected, I don't know how you can make a distinction based on the manner of their conception. Seems hypocritical to me, or it's just that you don't believe the lump of cells is a person. 
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433 - 16 May 2019 8:39 PM
mouflonrouge - 16 May 2019 8:26 PM

It's not really compassionate to the unborn child of a rapist if you think they're not as worthy of life as someone borne of consexual sex. 

It's compassionate to the Mother who was raped.

if it must be done, it should be done as early as possible.

It also encourages people to be more mindful of their actions because not all pregnant girls are victims of rape. Some just want to Abort because it was unplanned or because they are too young but if people are more responsible they will think more about the consequences of their actions.

Do you want us to be less compromising so you can maintain your "all or nothing" demands?

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