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With an election due in the next 12 months do people think it will be Gillard v Abbott or will either side make a change?
Personally I think Labor would rather lose than have Rudd, but I think he is their only chance. Abbott is likely to win but I doubt anyone including the Libs really want Abbott as leader...interesting times.
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Good week for Liberals (sorry first three days of the week) who knows what will happen by the end of the week?
I’ll have to remind some of you what happened since Australian Politics thread is turning in to Abbott hate thread:
1/ Labour down in the polls, on the two preferred it is a wipe out for Labour, first time since voting has began ruling party has to win seats at the next election..
2/Labour defends Peter Slipper in the parliament by attacking T Abbott for being sexist(with out any proof of Abbott being sexist), later P. Slipper resigns as the Parliament Speaker, Labour lost one vote on the floor of the lower house.
3/Authorney General Nikola Roxon had to apologise for interfering in Peter Slipper’s sexual harassment case:
a) Approved Court House car park space for P S;
b) Personally briefs the defence team; she should step down for this breaches
4/ PM J Gillard out of blue uses her dead father and shame claim in the Parliament (Abbott did not mention her dead father in his attack on P Slipper) and supports something unsupportive in the Parliament, P Slipper and the disgusting messages about female members of the parliament.
5/ Yesterday 175 boat people arrived.
6/ Wind Turbine Company close down in Australia this week.
There are other forms of information in Australia other than ABC and even they are running out of patience with this Labour government, A. Albanese and Tania Pluwashick got a grilling last night, up to their old tricks instead of answering questions: Why are they defending P. Slipper they went on Abbott attack.
Elections are nearing and is not Abbott who should be worried!
Darren Hinch should never go into politics Shame, Shame, Shame
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i can only imagine the outrage if Abbott called Giallard a misandrist..?????
we wouldnt here the end of it......double standards much
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ozboy wrote:RJL25 wrote:What would be thick, ozboy, would be to reference the Alan Jones issue! No one could be that stupid, so for that reason it's entirely plausible that he wasn't thinking when he made that statement.
Doesn't make it any less dumb, mind you
I said to myself a few weeks ago that I shouldn't step into this thread. With the above statement, you have confirmed why. Cheerio! promise...:d :d please tell me it's true.....:lol: :lol: so left you fell off the page
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RJL25 wrote:imonfourfourtwo wrote:RJL25 wrote:Roar_Brisbane wrote:RJL25 wrote:What would be thick, ozboy, would be to reference the Alan Jones issue! No one could be that stupid, so for that reason it's entirely plausible that he wasn't thinking when he made that statement.
Doesn't make it any less dumb, mind you
Still no comment on the Peter Slipper issue though ozboy?
Edited by RJL25: 9/10/2012 10:16:36 PM I wouldn't put that past Tony, he has really put his foot in it. Absolutely, but I think it's more plausible that he fucked up and didn't realise what he was saying when he said it, rather then that he deliberately said it knowing that it would only reinforce the perceived links between Jones and Abbott It's quite possible. But the fact he used the 'shame' three times in one sentence doesn't bode well for him. Maybe he was trying to make a point that he has being using the "dying of shame" line for months and he's ignoring what Alan Jones has done with that phrase. If that was the case then, while it's not connecting Jones comments to him, it is doing his friend a favour by white washing over the now tainted phrase so it can be used against the government. To be fair, if you actually watch parliament, the word "shame" is used incredibly frequently by both sides when describing the other. The words "hear hear" and "shame" are the most frequent interjections during question time! Also I think your drawing a rather long bow in suggesting that Abbott was using the term to somehow make the term acceptable again and do a favour for Jones,, fact is, Tony simply isn't that smart! Oh most definitely! The support it shows from the party when they all say "shame" or "hear hear" is a great quirk of the Westminster System and is a tribute to the culture of sticking by one's party. However saying the government should "die of shame" shows a lack of respect for the the events of the last week. If Labor is quick to link Abbott to wingnuts with signs saying "Ditch the Witch" then he would have know these comments wouldn't do him any favours. On your last point, touché Edited by imonfourfourtwo: 9/10/2012 10:48:03 PM
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imonfourfourtwo wrote:RJL25 wrote:Roar_Brisbane wrote:RJL25 wrote:What would be thick, ozboy, would be to reference the Alan Jones issue! No one could be that stupid, so for that reason it's entirely plausible that he wasn't thinking when he made that statement.
Doesn't make it any less dumb, mind you
Still no comment on the Peter Slipper issue though ozboy?
Edited by RJL25: 9/10/2012 10:16:36 PM I wouldn't put that past Tony, he has really put his foot in it. Absolutely, but I think it's more plausible that he fucked up and didn't realise what he was saying when he said it, rather then that he deliberately said it knowing that it would only reinforce the perceived links between Jones and Abbott It's quite possible. But the fact he used the 'shame' three times in one sentence doesn't bode well for him. Maybe he was trying to make a point that he has being using the "dying of shame" line for months and he's ignoring what Alan Jones has done with that phrase. If that was the case then, while it's not connecting Jones comments to him, it is doing his friend a favour by white washing over the now tainted phrase so it can be used against the government. To be fair, if you actually watch parliament, the word "shame" is used incredibly frequently by both sides when describing the other. The words "hear hear" and "shame" are the most frequent interjections during question time! Also I think your drawing a rather long bow in suggesting that Abbott was using the term to somehow make the term acceptable again and do a favour for Jones,, fact is, Tony simply isn't that smart! Edited by RJL25: 9/10/2012 10:39:54 PM
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RJL25 wrote:Roar_Brisbane wrote:RJL25 wrote:What would be thick, ozboy, would be to reference the Alan Jones issue! No one could be that stupid, so for that reason it's entirely plausible that he wasn't thinking when he made that statement.
Doesn't make it any less dumb, mind you
Still no comment on the Peter Slipper issue though ozboy?
Edited by RJL25: 9/10/2012 10:16:36 PM I wouldn't put that past Tony, he has really put his foot in it. Absolutely, but I think it's more plausible that he fucked up and didn't realise what he was saying when he said it, rather then that he deliberately said it knowing that it would only reinforce the perceived links between Jones and Abbott It's quite possible. But the fact he used the 'shame' three times in one sentence doesn't bode well for him. Maybe he was trying to make a point that he has being using the "dying of shame" line for months and he's ignoring what Alan Jones has done with that phrase. If that was the case then, while it's not connecting Jones comments to him, it is doing his friend a favour by white washing over the now tainted phrase so it can be used against the government.
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ozboy wrote:RJL25 wrote:What would be thick, ozboy, would be to reference the Alan Jones issue! No one could be that stupid, so for that reason it's entirely plausible that he wasn't thinking when he made that statement.
Doesn't make it any less dumb, mind you
I said to myself a few weeks ago that I shouldn't step into this thread. With the above statement, you have confirmed why. Cheerio! I notice that you edited out my line about Peter Slipper ozboy! Mate your dodging that issue faster then the ALP who you claim not to support... Edited by RJL25: 9/10/2012 10:28:14 PM
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ozboy wrote:RedKat wrote:But on the bright side it increases my hopes of Turnbull challenging So do I, but in the eyes of the Liberal Party he is not nasty enough. But that's just it. You could see Turnbull as a level headed Prime Minister capable of leading the nation. If Gillard or Abbott won it would be three more years of the same poisonous culture. Gillard could just possibly win next year with the "lesser of two evils" vote. With Turnbull as leader the Coalition would win in a landslide taking nearly all the moderate vote. The benefit of Turnbull leading the Liberal party too is the opportunity to re-think Abbott's promises in regards to removing the carbon tax, which would be incredibly difficult for any government to completely repeal. I could imagine the carbon tax for Abbott being similar to Guantanamo Bay for Obama.
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:RJL25 wrote:What would be thick, ozboy, would be to reference the Alan Jones issue! No one could be that stupid, so for that reason it's entirely plausible that he wasn't thinking when he made that statement.
Doesn't make it any less dumb, mind you
Still no comment on the Peter Slipper issue though ozboy?
Edited by RJL25: 9/10/2012 10:16:36 PM I wouldn't put that past Tony, he has really put his foot in it. Absolutely, but I think it's more plausible that he fucked up and didn't realise what he was saying when he said it, rather then that he deliberately said it knowing that it would only reinforce the perceived links between Jones and Abbott
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RJL25 wrote:What would be thick, ozboy, would be to reference the Alan Jones issue! No one could be that stupid, so for that reason it's entirely plausible that he wasn't thinking when he made that statement.
Doesn't make it any less dumb, mind you
I said to myself a few weeks ago that I shouldn't step into this thread. With the above statement, you have confirmed why. Cheerio!
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RJL25 wrote:What would be thick, ozboy, would be to reference the Alan Jones issue! No one could be that stupid, so for that reason it's entirely plausible that he wasn't thinking when he made that statement.
Doesn't make it any less dumb, mind you
Still no comment on the Peter Slipper issue though ozboy?
Edited by RJL25: 9/10/2012 10:16:36 PM I wouldn't put that past Tony, he has really put his foot in it.
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What would be thick, ozboy, would be to reference the Alan Jones issue! No one could be that stupid, so for that reason it's entirely plausible that he wasn't thinking when he made that statement.
Doesn't make it any less dumb, mind you
Still no comment on the Peter Slipper issue though ozboy?
Edited by RJL25: 9/10/2012 10:16:36 PM
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RJL25 wrote:ozboy wrote:RJL25 wrote:ozboy wrote:RJL25 wrote:Ahh the good old days... When the barbs in question time were (mostly) good natured and mainly for show. Nothing like the acid laced pure hate filled crap that gets dished up daily by the current lot on both sides What has been on par with what Tony Abbott said about Julia Gillard today? Gillard said plenty about Abbott today in Parliament too, every bit as harsh and strong as what Abbott is alleged to have meant (he actually didn't say anything personal about her, people are just saying he was implying something). But in any case ozboy, I clearly said that this shit happens ON BOTH SIDES! I'm not standing up for anyone here, as far as I'm concerned, BOTH sides are out of line! What Abbott said was far worse than Gillard. You are just downplaying it. No I'm not, what he said was "this government is dieing of shame". His political opponents are saying that he was referencing the Alan Jones issue, he is saying that he wasn't even thinking about the Alan Jones issue, he argues it was just a figure of speech and that he wouldn't be so stupid to intentionally reference the Jones issue because it would be political suicide. What an utter crock of shit. If that were the case Abbott would have to be the thickest party leader in living memory.
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ozboy wrote:RJL25 wrote:ozboy wrote:RJL25 wrote:Ahh the good old days... When the barbs in question time were (mostly) good natured and mainly for show. Nothing like the acid laced pure hate filled crap that gets dished up daily by the current lot on both sides What has been on par with what Tony Abbott said about Julia Gillard today? Gillard said plenty about Abbott today in Parliament too, every bit as harsh and strong as what Abbott is alleged to have meant (he actually didn't say anything personal about her, people are just saying he was implying something). But in any case ozboy, I clearly said that this shit happens ON BOTH SIDES! I'm not standing up for anyone here, as far as I'm concerned, BOTH sides are out of line! What Abbott said was far worse than Gillard. You are just downplaying it. No I'm not, what he said was "this government is dieing of shame". His political opponents are saying that he was referencing the Alan Jones issue, he is saying that he wasn't even thinking about the Alan Jones issue, he argues it was just a figure of speech and that he wouldn't be so stupid to intentionally reference the Jones issue because it would be political suicide. Those are the facts, my opinions are not in there at all ozboy and I'm not trying to downplay anything. As for Gillard, she didn't imply anything, she straight up made a lot of accusations about Abbott being a misogynist which many people would consider to be a direct and personal insult. If anyone's downplaying anything ozboy, it's you who has not said a single word on the Slipper issue which is hugely embarrassing for he Government, instead your trying to distract people by rehashing the Abbott is a misogynist issue, yet you claim to not be a Labor supporter? Edited by RJL25: 9/10/2012 10:07:23 PM
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RedKat wrote:But on the bright side it increases my hopes of Turnbull challenging So do I, but in the eyes of the Liberal Party he is not nasty enough.
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RJL25 wrote:ozboy wrote:RJL25 wrote:Ahh the good old days... When the barbs in question time were (mostly) good natured and mainly for show. Nothing like the acid laced pure hate filled crap that gets dished up daily by the current lot on both sides What has been on par with what Tony Abbott said about Julia Gillard today? Gillard said plenty about Abbott today in Parliament too, every bit as harsh and strong as what Abbott is alleged to have meant (he actually didn't say anything personal about her, people are just saying he was implying something). But in any case ozboy, I clearly said that this shit happens ON BOTH SIDES! I'm not standing up for anyone here, as far as I'm concerned, BOTH sides are out of line! What Abbott said was far worse than Gillard. You are just downplaying it.
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ozboy wrote:RJL25 wrote:Ahh the good old days... When the barbs in question time were (mostly) good natured and mainly for show. Nothing like the acid laced pure hate filled crap that gets dished up daily by the current lot on both sides What has been on par with what Tony Abbott said about Julia Gillard today? Gillard said plenty about Abbott today in Parliament too, every bit as harsh and strong as what Abbott is alleged to have meant (he actually didn't say anything personal about her, people are just saying he was implying something). But in any case ozboy, I clearly said that this shit happens ON BOTH SIDES! I'm not standing up for anyone here, as far as I'm concerned, BOTH sides are out of line!
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RJL25 wrote:Ahh the good old days... When the barbs in question time were (mostly) good natured and mainly for show. Nothing like the acid laced pure hate filled crap that gets dished up daily by the current lot on both sides What has been on par with what Tony Abbott said about Julia Gillard today?
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Keating would cut these numpties to tears in about 2 minutes
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RJL25 wrote:Ahh the good old days... When the barbs in question time were (mostly) good natured and mainly for show. Nothing like the acid laced pure hate filled crap that gets dished up daily by the current lot on both sides Agree.
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imonfourfourtwo wrote:UnitedGal wrote:imonfourfourtwo wrote:Quote: REVEALED: What Peter Slipper's sexist text messages actually saidhttp://www.news.com.au/national/revealed-what-peter-slippers-sexist-text-messages-actually-said/story-fndo4eg9-1226492172640"LUCY is very available and keen! Could turn you from your wayward ways," Peter Slipper texted to adviser James Ashby on September 3. It was just one of hundreds of text messages the Speaker sent about sexual matters. In a document before the Federal Court, Mr Ashby says that, with hindsight, "he understood the reference to 'wayward ways' to be reference to his homosexuality but at the time was unsure as to what it meant." It wasn't just sex between men that occupied Mr Slipper's many texting moments. Their chief political interest was former Liberal minister Mal Brough, who wanted to take the seat of Fisher from Mr Slipper. "Brough is a c..t,'' Mr Slipper said in a text on October 10 last year. Soon after, he said: ''Funny how we say that a person is a c..t when many guys like c..ts.''About five minutes later Mr Slipper began what the Opposition has called "'vile anatomical references''. Referring to women's private parts, he said: ''They look like mussell (sic) removed from its shell. Look at a bottle of mussel meat. Salty C..ts in brine.''That day Mr Ashby attempted to get the SMS conversation back to politics, but Mr Slipper persisted. "Been to thw (sic) fish shop yet to buy the bottle of shell less Mussells (sic)?''On October 12 Mr Slipper referred to Liberal front bencher Sophie Mirabella, who had criticised him. "Yes i agree she did push it too far. But did she do it because you're mates or she's just an ignorant botch (sic)?'' he said in a text. By early October last year, Mr Slipper was aware of Mr Ashby's interest in an insurance agent the Speaker called "Bill" because he reminded him of former US President Bill Clinton. On October 14, Mr Slipper questioned the relationship between Mr Ashby and "Bill". "Is he a special friend or just business?" he asked Mr Ashby about the man. Then, on October 16, Mr Slipper enquired whether Mr Ashby, after a night out, was not just tired but "shagged". Mr Ashby took that as a reference to sexual relations. There was another Bill reference on October 16 when Mr Slipper said: "Sounds to me that you may have broken the drought." And on October 28, "Did you lose your maidenhood", followed by a reference to Mr Ashby's "virtual hymen". Attention went back to Mr Brough, whom on December 3 Mr Slipper called "that little f..ker on the Bolt Report."Late in December, Mr Slipper playfully reprimanded Mr Ashby by saying: "I'm going to smack u. Arhhhhhhhh."Mr Ashby replied, "Ah I might like it. Tho I'm not into pain." On January 18, after Mr Slipper had not heard from his adviser for a while, Mr Ashby joked he had quit. "Y r a cccc....tttttt :)," Mr Slipper replied. "Cccccccc.....t."Mr Ashby's response was: "You love it but." As much as I understand Gillard's premise that Abbott has had some sexist things in the past the ALP did the wrong thing letting Slipper keep the speakership in light of these messages. Edited by imonfourfourtwo: 9/10/2012 05:50:14 PM I haven't been reading up a lot on the slipper thing but has he been found guilty yet? Last time I checked our institution is based on innocent until proven guilty I understand the presumption of innocence, that is why he should remain in the parliament. But as the Speaker of the House he could not have demanded the respect required to manage the House of Representatives, that is why Harry Jenkins fitted the role perfectly. Thankfully Slipper has resigned for the good of the parliament. Yeah I agree And he has
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ozboy wrote:Not sure I this guy's credentials - what training does he have in psychology?
Why is he writing on a blog & not involved in the peer review response to the editor of the journal?
I'll have to look into it. He's a University Professor, that's a "credential" isn't it? There have actually been more comprehensive studies of intelligence along the political spectrum, and those found to be swinging voters, that are those who don't align with any political party, or particularly left or right ideology, are the most intelligent. That's because they don't box themselves into simplistic left v right thinking and are able think laterally about a variety of complex social and economic issues rather than being guided by a party line.
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UnitedGal wrote:imonfourfourtwo wrote:Quote: REVEALED: What Peter Slipper's sexist text messages actually saidhttp://www.news.com.au/national/revealed-what-peter-slippers-sexist-text-messages-actually-said/story-fndo4eg9-1226492172640"LUCY is very available and keen! Could turn you from your wayward ways," Peter Slipper texted to adviser James Ashby on September 3. It was just one of hundreds of text messages the Speaker sent about sexual matters. In a document before the Federal Court, Mr Ashby says that, with hindsight, "he understood the reference to 'wayward ways' to be reference to his homosexuality but at the time was unsure as to what it meant." It wasn't just sex between men that occupied Mr Slipper's many texting moments. Their chief political interest was former Liberal minister Mal Brough, who wanted to take the seat of Fisher from Mr Slipper. "Brough is a c..t,'' Mr Slipper said in a text on October 10 last year. Soon after, he said: ''Funny how we say that a person is a c..t when many guys like c..ts.''About five minutes later Mr Slipper began what the Opposition has called "'vile anatomical references''. Referring to women's private parts, he said: ''They look like mussell (sic) removed from its shell. Look at a bottle of mussel meat. Salty C..ts in brine.''That day Mr Ashby attempted to get the SMS conversation back to politics, but Mr Slipper persisted. "Been to thw (sic) fish shop yet to buy the bottle of shell less Mussells (sic)?''On October 12 Mr Slipper referred to Liberal front bencher Sophie Mirabella, who had criticised him. "Yes i agree she did push it too far. But did she do it because you're mates or she's just an ignorant botch (sic)?'' he said in a text. By early October last year, Mr Slipper was aware of Mr Ashby's interest in an insurance agent the Speaker called "Bill" because he reminded him of former US President Bill Clinton. On October 14, Mr Slipper questioned the relationship between Mr Ashby and "Bill". "Is he a special friend or just business?" he asked Mr Ashby about the man. Then, on October 16, Mr Slipper enquired whether Mr Ashby, after a night out, was not just tired but "shagged". Mr Ashby took that as a reference to sexual relations. There was another Bill reference on October 16 when Mr Slipper said: "Sounds to me that you may have broken the drought." And on October 28, "Did you lose your maidenhood", followed by a reference to Mr Ashby's "virtual hymen". Attention went back to Mr Brough, whom on December 3 Mr Slipper called "that little f..ker on the Bolt Report."Late in December, Mr Slipper playfully reprimanded Mr Ashby by saying: "I'm going to smack u. Arhhhhhhhh."Mr Ashby replied, "Ah I might like it. Tho I'm not into pain." On January 18, after Mr Slipper had not heard from his adviser for a while, Mr Ashby joked he had quit. "Y r a cccc....tttttt :)," Mr Slipper replied. "Cccccccc.....t."Mr Ashby's response was: "You love it but." As much as I understand Gillard's premise that Abbott has had some sexist things in the past the ALP did the wrong thing letting Slipper keep the speakership in light of these messages. Edited by imonfourfourtwo: 9/10/2012 05:50:14 PM I haven't been reading up a lot on the slipper thing but has he been found guilty yet? Last time I checked our institution is based on innocent until proven guilty I understand the presumption of innocence, that is why he should remain in the parliament. But as the Speaker of the House he could not have demanded the respect required to manage the House of Representatives, that is why Harry Jenkins fitted the role perfectly. Thankfully Slipper has resigned for the good of the parliament.
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I made the unfortunate error of watching Q&A last night, pretty much the only watchable part of the program was when Lindsay Tanner spoke and the main quote I took away from it, and he was referring specifically to the ALP but he may as well have been referring to the lot of them, was that in his day people entered politics to change the world, today they enter simply to run the world
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imonfourfourtwo wrote:Quote: REVEALED: What Peter Slipper's sexist text messages actually saidhttp://www.news.com.au/national/revealed-what-peter-slippers-sexist-text-messages-actually-said/story-fndo4eg9-1226492172640"LUCY is very available and keen! Could turn you from your wayward ways," Peter Slipper texted to adviser James Ashby on September 3. It was just one of hundreds of text messages the Speaker sent about sexual matters. In a document before the Federal Court, Mr Ashby says that, with hindsight, "he understood the reference to 'wayward ways' to be reference to his homosexuality but at the time was unsure as to what it meant." It wasn't just sex between men that occupied Mr Slipper's many texting moments. Their chief political interest was former Liberal minister Mal Brough, who wanted to take the seat of Fisher from Mr Slipper. "Brough is a c..t,'' Mr Slipper said in a text on October 10 last year. Soon after, he said: ''Funny how we say that a person is a c..t when many guys like c..ts.''About five minutes later Mr Slipper began what the Opposition has called "'vile anatomical references''. Referring to women's private parts, he said: ''They look like mussell (sic) removed from its shell. Look at a bottle of mussel meat. Salty C..ts in brine.''That day Mr Ashby attempted to get the SMS conversation back to politics, but Mr Slipper persisted. "Been to thw (sic) fish shop yet to buy the bottle of shell less Mussells (sic)?''On October 12 Mr Slipper referred to Liberal front bencher Sophie Mirabella, who had criticised him. "Yes i agree she did push it too far. But did she do it because you're mates or she's just an ignorant botch (sic)?'' he said in a text. By early October last year, Mr Slipper was aware of Mr Ashby's interest in an insurance agent the Speaker called "Bill" because he reminded him of former US President Bill Clinton. On October 14, Mr Slipper questioned the relationship between Mr Ashby and "Bill". "Is he a special friend or just business?" he asked Mr Ashby about the man. Then, on October 16, Mr Slipper enquired whether Mr Ashby, after a night out, was not just tired but "shagged". Mr Ashby took that as a reference to sexual relations. There was another Bill reference on October 16 when Mr Slipper said: "Sounds to me that you may have broken the drought." And on October 28, "Did you lose your maidenhood", followed by a reference to Mr Ashby's "virtual hymen". Attention went back to Mr Brough, whom on December 3 Mr Slipper called "that little f..ker on the Bolt Report."Late in December, Mr Slipper playfully reprimanded Mr Ashby by saying: "I'm going to smack u. Arhhhhhhhh."Mr Ashby replied, "Ah I might like it. Tho I'm not into pain." On January 18, after Mr Slipper had not heard from his adviser for a while, Mr Ashby joked he had quit. "Y r a cccc....tttttt :)," Mr Slipper replied. "Cccccccc.....t."Mr Ashby's response was: "You love it but." As much as I understand Gillard's premise that Abbott has had some sexist things in the past the ALP did the wrong thing letting Slipper keep the speakership in light of these messages. Edited by imonfourfourtwo: 9/10/2012 05:50:14 PM I haven't been reading up a lot on the slipper thing but has he been found guilty yet? Last time I checked our institution is based on innocent until proven guilty
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Peter Slipper resigns as Speaker
Edited by imonfourfourtwo: 9/10/2012 07:21:33 PM
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Ahh the good old days... When the barbs in question time were (mostly) good natured and mainly for show. Nothing like the acid laced pure hate filled crap that gets dished up daily by the current lot on both sides
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Tony Abbott gaaawnnn? Let's hope so
Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has referenced shock jock Alan Jones' controversial remarks about Julia Gillard's late father, saying the government "should already have died of shame". Mr Abbott told parliament this afternoon that Ms Gillard should be ashamed of herself and her judgment for appointing Peter Slipper as Speaker. "Should she rise in this place now to try and defend the Speaker, to try and say that she retains confidence in this Speaker, she will shame this parliament again," he said. "And every day the prime minister stands in this parliament to defend this Speaker will be another day of shame for this parliament, another day of shame for a government which should already have died of shame." The comments reference a speech Jones gave to a Sydney University Liberal function two weeks ago in which he said Ms Gillard's recently deceased father had "died of shame". http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8544976/government-should-have-died-of-shame-abbott
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