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+x+x+x+xLike I said earlier we should try a new coach as there is nothing to lose.... Structurally, Cogger, Lewis, JMK and Meaney are all young players, they are improving but too slowly. We are lacking centres with speed who can also defend and run hard, We are lacking edge backrowers who can work with their centres in defence, run lines in attack, not drop the ball and and work hard for 80 mins. We are lacking props that can run hard for long minutes, hit hard in defence, and perhaps get an offload, or a quick play the ball. We might have 1-2 better options in reserve grade, but there isn't a whole NRL side playing in reserves.. All I am saying is it is a tough gig for the replacement coach, and Pay needs the kind of miracle we haven't seen for over 2,000 years... As always in sport if you hang in long enough and try hard enough it always turns around. The main advantage I can see with a new coach is it is a reset, the players might feel energised or perhaps a few changes in style and selection might help.... but like I say it is at all order...... Probably the main reason to change coach is it might give a few fans an incentive to turn up for a few more weeks... Georgallis has done it before and he can do it again until the new coach comes in. This is at lest a realistic option and something we can do quickly we don't have a lot to lose... The big issue is with the 'war chest' available for 21 we need to know who the coach is for that year by Nov this year so that person has a say in recruitment, but is also a carrot beyond $ to attract the right players... Im pretty sure extending Pay was more about short term perception of stability for the players rather than an indicator of a long term commitment by the club... And at $17.48 am hour it was worth the punt, this year... If we can find the right coach in the next 6 months, I expect Pay will be gone before a ball is kicked in anger next year... Or we need to be in the NRLols war about Flanagan now, but I don't expect any favours there... We might be able to get a new coach to take over the 2020 season at the end of the year, if we try to get that long term coach on board now, we risk making a rushed decision or not being able to get who we want and settling for 2nd best... It is fairly typical for the reserve grade coach to come on board,,, Georgalis has some experience and ability... We might have the 2020 coach by November, that gives us 4-5 months to find the right guy.
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Former Knights player Nathan Ross having a massive crack at Tony Ayoub on Twitter today....
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+xFormer Knights player Nathan Ross having a massive crack at Tony Ayoub on Twitter today.... I don't think Tony is the problem we are doing a good job at getting players back on the paddock, what they do on the paddock is the problem.
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+xLooking a the 2nd half defence, Martin was a big problem on the left side .... at least in the highlights... I think he adds something to the team in attack, in defence he seems slow and out of position a lot of the time...... Montoya reacted the same way Holland did, panic and rush out of the line.... bad decision by the centre, but the edge has to be working together and the 2nd rower has to be in the frame.... don't know if it was you or someone else, but someone posted earlier that it looked like we had 2 men short on the edges every time and saints looked like they had 2 extra players..... it certainly looked like that to me watching from birds eye view at the game. Saints outsmarted us badly. They counted numbers both left and right of the ruck and caught us napping many times. Do we not talk on the field? Do we not count numbers and number up? How can we be so poor defensively? As soon as the ball was played in the middle of the field and the ball was spread it looked like they already had an overlap. I notice too many times, our players make a tackle only to roll off and stack the short side (to get away from having to tackle in the middle) and we are invariably short on the far side. There needs to be more assertive talk and it needs to come from all players but especially the fullback. Meaney was one of our better players out there today along with JMK but he needs to direct the defensive line and ensure we man up. We cant be getting caught on the edges so badly.
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+x+x+x+x+xLike I said earlier we should try a new coach as there is nothing to lose.... Structurally, Cogger, Lewis, JMK and Meaney are all young players, they are improving but too slowly. We are lacking centres with speed who can also defend and run hard, We are lacking edge backrowers who can work with their centres in defence, run lines in attack, not drop the ball and and work hard for 80 mins. We are lacking props that can run hard for long minutes, hit hard in defence, and perhaps get an offload, or a quick play the ball. We might have 1-2 better options in reserve grade, but there isn't a whole NRL side playing in reserves.. All I am saying is it is a tough gig for the replacement coach, and Pay needs the kind of miracle we haven't seen for over 2,000 years... As always in sport if you hang in long enough and try hard enough it always turns around. The main advantage I can see with a new coach is it is a reset, the players might feel energised or perhaps a few changes in style and selection might help.... but like I say it is at all order...... Probably the main reason to change coach is it might give a few fans an incentive to turn up for a few more weeks... Georgallis has done it before and he can do it again until the new coach comes in. This is at lest a realistic option and something we can do quickly we don't have a lot to lose... The big issue is with the 'war chest' available for 21 we need to know who the coach is for that year by Nov this year so that person has a say in recruitment, but is also a carrot beyond $ to attract the right players... Im pretty sure extending Pay was more about short term perception of stability for the players rather than an indicator of a long term commitment by the club... And at $17.48 am hour it was worth the punt, this year... If we can find the right coach in the next 6 months, I expect Pay will be gone before a ball is kicked in anger next year... Or we need to be in the NRLols war about Flanagan now, but I don't expect any favours there... We might be able to get a new coach to take over the 2020 season at the end of the year, if we try to get that long term coach on board now, we risk making a rushed decision or not being able to get who we want and settling for 2nd best... It is fairly typical for the reserve grade coach to come on board,,, Georgalis has some experience and ability... We might have the 2020 coach by November, that gives us 4-5 months to find the right guy. Definitely don't rush it... November should be the target... In the mean time Steve G is definitely the best interim option... In all honesty by the look of Pay, I think he'd be happy to take just about anything to get out...
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+x+xLooking a the 2nd half defence, Martin was a big problem on the left side .... at least in the highlights... I think he adds something to the team in attack, in defence he seems slow and out of position a lot of the time...... Montoya reacted the same way Holland did, panic and rush out of the line.... bad decision by the centre, but the edge has to be working together and the 2nd rower has to be in the frame.... don't know if it was you or someone else, but someone posted earlier that it looked like we had 2 men short on the edges every time and saints looked like they had 2 extra players..... it certainly looked like that to me watching from birds eye view at the game. Saints outsmarted us badly. They counted numbers both left and right of the ruck and caught us napping many times. Do we not talk on the field? Do we not count numbers and number up? How can we be so poor defensively? As soon as the ball was played in the middle of the field and the ball was spread it looked like they already had an overlap. I notice too many times, our players make a tackle only to roll off and stack the short side (to get away from having to tackle in the middle) and we are invariably short on the far side. There needs to be more assertive talk and it needs to come from all players but especially the fullback. Meaney was one of our better players out there today along with JMK but he needs to direct the defensive line and ensure we man up. We cant be getting caught on the edges so badly. Just don't know if Meaneys got that assertiveness in him... To be honest the way he hits the line says plenty to me... it's as soft as I've seen... young though... I wonder who if anyone is working with him on that side the game you're talking about... no doubt you'd suggest slater would be the man for the job, and I'd agree...
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+x+x+xLooking a the 2nd half defence, Martin was a big problem on the left side .... at least in the highlights... I think he adds something to the team in attack, in defence he seems slow and out of position a lot of the time...... Montoya reacted the same way Holland did, panic and rush out of the line.... bad decision by the centre, but the edge has to be working together and the 2nd rower has to be in the frame.... don't know if it was you or someone else, but someone posted earlier that it looked like we had 2 men short on the edges every time and saints looked like they had 2 extra players..... it certainly looked like that to me watching from birds eye view at the game. Saints outsmarted us badly. They counted numbers both left and right of the ruck and caught us napping many times. Do we not talk on the field? Do we not count numbers and number up? How can we be so poor defensively? As soon as the ball was played in the middle of the field and the ball was spread it looked like they already had an overlap. I notice too many times, our players make a tackle only to roll off and stack the short side (to get away from having to tackle in the middle) and we are invariably short on the far side. There needs to be more assertive talk and it needs to come from all players but especially the fullback. Meaney was one of our better players out there today along with JMK but he needs to direct the defensive line and ensure we man up. We cant be getting caught on the edges so badly. Just don't know if Meaneys got that assertiveness in him... To be honest the way he hits the line says plenty to me... it's as soft as I've seen... young though... I wonder who if anyone is working with him on that side the game you're talking about... no doubt you'd suggest slater would be the man for the job, and I'd agree... Let’s be realistic..... Meaney is the Aidan Tolman of fullbacks Just another toiler that doesn’t do anything flashy
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+x+x+xLooking a the 2nd half defence, Martin was a big problem on the left side .... at least in the highlights... I think he adds something to the team in attack, in defence he seems slow and out of position a lot of the time...... Montoya reacted the same way Holland did, panic and rush out of the line.... bad decision by the centre, but the edge has to be working together and the 2nd rower has to be in the frame.... don't know if it was you or someone else, but someone posted earlier that it looked like we had 2 men short on the edges every time and saints looked like they had 2 extra players..... it certainly looked like that to me watching from birds eye view at the game. Saints outsmarted us badly. They counted numbers both left and right of the ruck and caught us napping many times. Do we not talk on the field? Do we not count numbers and number up? How can we be so poor defensively? As soon as the ball was played in the middle of the field and the ball was spread it looked like they already had an overlap. I notice too many times, our players make a tackle only to roll off and stack the short side (to get away from having to tackle in the middle) and we are invariably short on the far side. There needs to be more assertive talk and it needs to come from all players but especially the fullback. Meaney was one of our better players out there today along with JMK but he needs to direct the defensive line and ensure we man up. We cant be getting caught on the edges so badly. Just don't know if Meaneys got that assertiveness in him... To be honest the way he hits the line says plenty to me... it's as soft as I've seen... young though... I wonder who if anyone is working with him on that side the game you're talking about... no doubt you'd suggest slater would be the man for the job, and I'd agree... He is soft. He has been great taking bombs and getting to kicks but he can't break a tackle to save his life. Put him on the wing where he can use his pace that's if someone can pass it to him.
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If Pay had an ounce of footy smarts left In him, come 4pm tomorrow, he needs to name DWZ at 1
The one issue with DWZ is his hands.... but he more than makes up for it with his support play, aggressive running & speed.
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+xLooking a the 2nd half defence, Martin was a big problem on the left side .... at least in the highlights... I think he adds something to the team in attack, in defence he seems slow and out of position a lot of the time...... Montoya reacted the same way Holland did, panic and rush out of the line.... bad decision by the centre, but the edge has to be working together and the 2nd rower/half has to be in the frame.... OK not having Cogger might have messed that edge up.... but Martin and RFM were not in the frame a lot of the time... Martin went to 5/8 didn't he?
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+x+x+x+xLooking a the 2nd half defence, Martin was a big problem on the left side .... at least in the highlights... I think he adds something to the team in attack, in defence he seems slow and out of position a lot of the time...... Montoya reacted the same way Holland did, panic and rush out of the line.... bad decision by the centre, but the edge has to be working together and the 2nd rower has to be in the frame.... don't know if it was you or someone else, but someone posted earlier that it looked like we had 2 men short on the edges every time and saints looked like they had 2 extra players..... it certainly looked like that to me watching from birds eye view at the game. Saints outsmarted us badly. They counted numbers both left and right of the ruck and caught us napping many times. Do we not talk on the field? Do we not count numbers and number up? How can we be so poor defensively? As soon as the ball was played in the middle of the field and the ball was spread it looked like they already had an overlap. I notice too many times, our players make a tackle only to roll off and stack the short side (to get away from having to tackle in the middle) and we are invariably short on the far side. There needs to be more assertive talk and it needs to come from all players but especially the fullback. Meaney was one of our better players out there today along with JMK but he needs to direct the defensive line and ensure we man up. We cant be getting caught on the edges so badly. Just don't know if Meaneys got that assertiveness in him... To be honest the way he hits the line says plenty to me... it's as soft as I've seen... young though... I wonder who if anyone is working with him on that side the game you're talking about... no doubt you'd suggest slater would be the man for the job, and I'd agree... He is soft. He has been great taking bombs and getting to kicks but he can't break a tackle to save his life. Put him on the wing where he can use his pace that's if someone can pass it to him. Reimus doesn't see the ball so I guess hanging out on the other wing would work for him.
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WTF..... Tim Mannah off to the Tigers effective immediately
So I guess Parramatta will get Waqa Blake then?
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+x+x+x+xLooking a the 2nd half defence, Martin was a big problem on the left side .... at least in the highlights... I think he adds something to the team in attack, in defence he seems slow and out of position a lot of the time...... Montoya reacted the same way Holland did, panic and rush out of the line.... bad decision by the centre, but the edge has to be working together and the 2nd rower has to be in the frame.... don't know if it was you or someone else, but someone posted earlier that it looked like we had 2 men short on the edges every time and saints looked like they had 2 extra players..... it certainly looked like that to me watching from birds eye view at the game. Saints outsmarted us badly. They counted numbers both left and right of the ruck and caught us napping many times. Do we not talk on the field? Do we not count numbers and number up? How can we be so poor defensively? As soon as the ball was played in the middle of the field and the ball was spread it looked like they already had an overlap. I notice too many times, our players make a tackle only to roll off and stack the short side (to get away from having to tackle in the middle) and we are invariably short on the far side. There needs to be more assertive talk and it needs to come from all players but especially the fullback. Meaney was one of our better players out there today along with JMK but he needs to direct the defensive line and ensure we man up. We cant be getting caught on the edges so badly. Just don't know if Meaneys got that assertiveness in him... To be honest the way he hits the line says plenty to me... it's as soft as I've seen... young though... I wonder who if anyone is working with him on that side the game you're talking about... no doubt you'd suggest slater would be the man for the job, and I'd agree... Let’s be realistic..... Meaney is the Aidan Tolman of fullbacks Just another toiler that doesn’t do anything flashy There's at least 15 that fit that description atm.
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+xWTF..... Tim Mannah off to the Tigers effective immediately So I guess Parramatta will get Waqa Blake then? Thought Tigs didn't have a vacancy so missed out on DWZ? Musta been the money.
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+x+x+xLooking a the 2nd half defence, Martin was a big problem on the left side .... at least in the highlights... I think he adds something to the team in attack, in defence he seems slow and out of position a lot of the time...... Montoya reacted the same way Holland did, panic and rush out of the line.... bad decision by the centre, but the edge has to be working together and the 2nd rower has to be in the frame.... don't know if it was you or someone else, but someone posted earlier that it looked like we had 2 men short on the edges every time and saints looked like they had 2 extra players..... it certainly looked like that to me watching from birds eye view at the game. Saints outsmarted us badly. They counted numbers both left and right of the ruck and caught us napping many times. Do we not talk on the field? Do we not count numbers and number up? How can we be so poor defensively? As soon as the ball was played in the middle of the field and the ball was spread it looked like they already had an overlap. I notice too many times, our players make a tackle only to roll off and stack the short side (to get away from having to tackle in the middle) and we are invariably short on the far side. There needs to be more assertive talk and it needs to come from all players but especially the fullback. Meaney was one of our better players out there today along with JMK but he needs to direct the defensive line and ensure we man up. We cant be getting caught on the edges so badly. Just don't know if Meaneys got that assertiveness in him... To be honest the way he hits the line says plenty to me... it's as soft as I've seen... young though... I wonder who if anyone is working with him on that side the game you're talking about... no doubt you'd suggest slater would be the man for the job, and I'd agree... There's a reason I keep dropping the names Cronk and Slater all the time. They are very vocal and assertive players. The stuff they do off the ball is as important as the stuff they did with the ball. Even Barba at his young age would direct players in the defensive line. It helped that he was a star that performed in nearly every game so his teammates wouldnt dare question him. It's up to Dean Pay to spell it out to both Meaney and the rest of team that they need to listen to him and follow his instructions in defence and particularly close to the line. We also need a lesson on how to roll off tackles and get into marker or back to the short stacked side- not look for a breather near the winger.
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+xWTF..... Tim Mannah off to the Tigers effective immediately So I guess Parramatta will get Waqa Blake then? Wow another Tigers dud signing.
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+x+x+x+xLooking a the 2nd half defence, Martin was a big problem on the left side .... at least in the highlights... I think he adds something to the team in attack, in defence he seems slow and out of position a lot of the time...... Montoya reacted the same way Holland did, panic and rush out of the line.... bad decision by the centre, but the edge has to be working together and the 2nd rower has to be in the frame.... don't know if it was you or someone else, but someone posted earlier that it looked like we had 2 men short on the edges every time and saints looked like they had 2 extra players..... it certainly looked like that to me watching from birds eye view at the game. Saints outsmarted us badly. They counted numbers both left and right of the ruck and caught us napping many times. Do we not talk on the field? Do we not count numbers and number up? How can we be so poor defensively? As soon as the ball was played in the middle of the field and the ball was spread it looked like they already had an overlap. I notice too many times, our players make a tackle only to roll off and stack the short side (to get away from having to tackle in the middle) and we are invariably short on the far side. There needs to be more assertive talk and it needs to come from all players but especially the fullback. Meaney was one of our better players out there today along with JMK but he needs to direct the defensive line and ensure we man up. We cant be getting caught on the edges so badly. Just don't know if Meaneys got that assertiveness in him... To be honest the way he hits the line says plenty to me... it's as soft as I've seen... young though... I wonder who if anyone is working with him on that side the game you're talking about... no doubt you'd suggest slater would be the man for the job, and I'd agree... There's a reason I keep dropping the names Cronk and Slater all the time. They are very vocal and assertive players. The stuff they do off the ball is as important as the stuff they did with the ball. Even Barba at his young age would direct players in the defensive line. It helped that he was a star that performed in nearly every game so his teammates wouldnt dare question him. It's up to Dean Pay to spell it out to both Meaney and the rest of team that they need to listen to him and follow his instructions in defence and particularly close to the line. We also need a lesson on how to roll off tackles and get into marker or back to the short stacked side- not look for a breather near the winger. Whats Mitch Newton’s role at the club? He sits beside Pay.... has been for the past few weeks I’ve noticed
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+x+xWTF..... Tim Mannah off to the Tigers effective immediately So I guess Parramatta will get Waqa Blake then? Wow another Tigers dud signing. Yep. Not sure what Madge is thinking.... Afew years ago Mannah was ok without being brilliant. But he has gone downhill since then. Strange signing to say the least.
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+x+x+x+x+xLooking a the 2nd half defence, Martin was a big problem on the left side .... at least in the highlights... I think he adds something to the team in attack, in defence he seems slow and out of position a lot of the time...... Montoya reacted the same way Holland did, panic and rush out of the line.... bad decision by the centre, but the edge has to be working together and the 2nd rower has to be in the frame.... don't know if it was you or someone else, but someone posted earlier that it looked like we had 2 men short on the edges every time and saints looked like they had 2 extra players..... it certainly looked like that to me watching from birds eye view at the game. Saints outsmarted us badly. They counted numbers both left and right of the ruck and caught us napping many times. Do we not talk on the field? Do we not count numbers and number up? How can we be so poor defensively? As soon as the ball was played in the middle of the field and the ball was spread it looked like they already had an overlap. I notice too many times, our players make a tackle only to roll off and stack the short side (to get away from having to tackle in the middle) and we are invariably short on the far side. There needs to be more assertive talk and it needs to come from all players but especially the fullback. Meaney was one of our better players out there today along with JMK but he needs to direct the defensive line and ensure we man up. We cant be getting caught on the edges so badly. Just don't know if Meaneys got that assertiveness in him... To be honest the way he hits the line says plenty to me... it's as soft as I've seen... young though... I wonder who if anyone is working with him on that side the game you're talking about... no doubt you'd suggest slater would be the man for the job, and I'd agree... There's a reason I keep dropping the names Cronk and Slater all the time. They are very vocal and assertive players. The stuff they do off the ball is as important as the stuff they did with the ball. Even Barba at his young age would direct players in the defensive line. It helped that he was a star that performed in nearly every game so his teammates wouldnt dare question him. It's up to Dean Pay to spell it out to both Meaney and the rest of team that they need to listen to him and follow his instructions in defence and particularly close to the line. We also need a lesson on how to roll off tackles and get into marker or back to the short stacked side- not look for a breather near the winger. Whats Mitch Newton’s role at the club? He sits beside Pay.... has been for the past few weeks I’ve noticed Mitch is like a henchman standing behind a failed Spectre operative at a Spectre underground meeting. About to clobber Dean Pay.
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+x+x+x+x+xLooking a the 2nd half defence, Martin was a big problem on the left side .... at least in the highlights... I think he adds something to the team in attack, in defence he seems slow and out of position a lot of the time...... Montoya reacted the same way Holland did, panic and rush out of the line.... bad decision by the centre, but the edge has to be working together and the 2nd rower has to be in the frame.... don't know if it was you or someone else, but someone posted earlier that it looked like we had 2 men short on the edges every time and saints looked like they had 2 extra players..... it certainly looked like that to me watching from birds eye view at the game. Saints outsmarted us badly. They counted numbers both left and right of the ruck and caught us napping many times. Do we not talk on the field? Do we not count numbers and number up? How can we be so poor defensively? As soon as the ball was played in the middle of the field and the ball was spread it looked like they already had an overlap. I notice too many times, our players make a tackle only to roll off and stack the short side (to get away from having to tackle in the middle) and we are invariably short on the far side. There needs to be more assertive talk and it needs to come from all players but especially the fullback. Meaney was one of our better players out there today along with JMK but he needs to direct the defensive line and ensure we man up. We cant be getting caught on the edges so badly. Just don't know if Meaneys got that assertiveness in him... To be honest the way he hits the line says plenty to me... it's as soft as I've seen... young though... I wonder who if anyone is working with him on that side the game you're talking about... no doubt you'd suggest slater would be the man for the job, and I'd agree... There's a reason I keep dropping the names Cronk and Slater all the time. They are very vocal and assertive players. The stuff they do off the ball is as important as the stuff they did with the ball. Even Barba at his young age would direct players in the defensive line. It helped that he was a star that performed in nearly every game so his teammates wouldnt dare question him. It's up to Dean Pay to spell it out to both Meaney and the rest of team that they need to listen to him and follow his instructions in defence and particularly close to the line. We also need a lesson on how to roll off tackles and get into marker or back to the short stacked side- not look for a breather near the winger. Whats Mitch Newton’s role at the club? He sits beside Pay.... has been for the past few weeks I’ve noticed Bodyguard.
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+x+xWTF..... Tim Mannah off to the Tigers effective immediately So I guess Parramatta will get Waqa Blake then? Thought Tigs didn't have a vacancy so missed out on DWZ? Musta been the money. They had one spot open.
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+x+xLooking a the 2nd half defence, Martin was a big problem on the left side .... at least in the highlights... I think he adds something to the team in attack, in defence he seems slow and out of position a lot of the time...... Montoya reacted the same way Holland did, panic and rush out of the line.... bad decision by the centre, but the edge has to be working together and the 2nd rower/half has to be in the frame.... OK not having Cogger might have messed that edge up.... but Martin and RFM were not in the frame a lot of the time... Martin went to 5/8 didn't he? Yes possibly... Martin and RFM were defending on that side ... actually I do wonder how many tackles they made. I watched the first half of the last reserve grade game Renouf T seems to cover a lot of ground in defence, plays long minutes and runs hard.. I don't know why Pay is not picking Renouf, we need to try something.. I am also amazed that our club doesn't seem to have an 80 minute 2nd rower who is a good defender. Jacko and Elliott are better in the middle. Martin, CHN and RFM don't seem to have the mobility and work rate. Or perhaps the problems are elsewhere?
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+x+x+xLooking a the 2nd half defence, Martin was a big problem on the left side .... at least in the highlights... I think he adds something to the team in attack, in defence he seems slow and out of position a lot of the time...... Montoya reacted the same way Holland did, panic and rush out of the line.... bad decision by the centre, but the edge has to be working together and the 2nd rower/half has to be in the frame.... OK not having Cogger might have messed that edge up.... but Martin and RFM were not in the frame a lot of the time... Martin went to 5/8 didn't he? Yes possibly... Martin and RFM were defending on that side ... actually I do wonder how many tackles they made. I watched the first half of the last reserve grade game Renouf T seems to cover a lot of ground in defence, plays long minutes and runs hard.. I don't know why Pay is not picking Renouf, we need to try something.. I am also amazed that our club doesn't seem to have an 80 minute 2nd rower who is a good defender. Jacko and Elliott are better in the middle. Martin, CHN and RFM don't seem to have the mobility and work rate. Or perhaps the problems are elsewhere? Plays long minutes, runs hard and tackles who wants that in 1st grade? Martin was 5/8th.
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Nancy
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Can we sack that imposter Antonelli while we're at it. Our defence is a shambles.
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Villi
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+x+x+xLooking a the 2nd half defence, Martin was a big problem on the left side .... at least in the highlights... I think he adds something to the team in attack, in defence he seems slow and out of position a lot of the time...... Montoya reacted the same way Holland did, panic and rush out of the line.... bad decision by the centre, but the edge has to be working together and the 2nd rower/half has to be in the frame.... OK not having Cogger might have messed that edge up.... but Martin and RFM were not in the frame a lot of the time... Martin went to 5/8 didn't he? Yes possibly... Martin and RFM were defending on that side ... actually I do wonder how many tackles they made. I watched the first half of the last reserve grade game Renouf T seems to cover a lot of ground in defence, plays long minutes and runs hard.. I don't know why Pay is not picking Renouf, we need to try something.. I am also amazed that our club doesn't seem to have an 80 minute 2nd rower who is a good defender. Jacko and Elliott are better in the middle. Martin, CHN and RFM don't seem to have the mobility and work rate. Or perhaps the problems are elsewhere? All the noise about Martin has clearly effected him on field.... he’s nowhere near the same player from 2018
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Villi
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+xCan we sack that imposter Antonelli while we're at it. Our defence is a shambles. How & why is this guy anywhere near a 1st grade team Nancy? A terrible move by Pay
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Nancy
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+x+xCan we sack that imposter Antonelli while we're at it. Our defence is a shambles. How & why is this guy anywhere near a 1st grade team Nancy? A terrible move by Pay He's his mate no other reason. He was a crap winger with a few games for Penrith 30 years ago. How a winger ever becomes a defensive coach is a mystery.
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So the Mannah thing is only a Rothfield rumour at this stage, with the typical 'rumoured' 'sources' and even goes so far as to say it won't happen after saying it will happen...
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Wests Tigers entered negotiations late and look to have signed the veteran prop although there is still a possibility talks could fall over late.
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Shouldve know better than to read it... 30 seconds I'll never get back,,,
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+x+x+xLooking a the 2nd half defence, Martin was a big problem on the left side .... at least in the highlights... I think he adds something to the team in attack, in defence he seems slow and out of position a lot of the time...... Montoya reacted the same way Holland did, panic and rush out of the line.... bad decision by the centre, but the edge has to be working together and the 2nd rower/half has to be in the frame.... OK not having Cogger might have messed that edge up.... but Martin and RFM were not in the frame a lot of the time... Martin went to 5/8 didn't he? Yes possibly... Martin and RFM were defending on that side ... actually I do wonder how many tackles they made. I watched the first half of the last reserve grade game Renouf T seems to cover a lot of ground in defence, plays long minutes and runs hard.. I don't know why Pay is not picking Renouf, we need to try something.. I am also amazed that our club doesn't seem to have an 80 minute 2nd rower who is a good defender. Jacko and Elliott are better in the middle. Martin, CHN and RFM don't seem to have the mobility and work rate. Or perhaps the problems are elsewhere? The way the 3 of them are stuffed around with minutes, FG or CCup, their role in the team, Pay doesn't talk to them by all accounts, the whole 3's confidence would be shot. Excuses, excuses I know but most guys are confidence players and the team, let alone those 3 players apparently in the bad books, look like rock bottom.
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Which gives you no real hope of things improving in the foreseeable future cos there's no working towsrds improvement or any foundation for seeing anything to build on atm.
Something has to give shortly you'd think...can't see too many more results like this being tolerated. Roosters next week!
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