BETHFC
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+xIs there something in the water in WA? :/ Shocking sad stuff. -PB Love seeing the comments blaming cops for this.... people are seriously misguided.
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+xIs there something in the water in WA? :/ Shocking sad stuff. -PB Not that I am aware of (not even fluoride in the water where I live). The three major family murders have been on fairly different social scales too (rural, northern suburb, inner city suburb) ... Mental health services in WA have been heavily criticised for a few election campaigns now, perhaps this is an accumulation of government ignoring mental health issues in the state???
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paulbagzFC
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Is there something in the water in WA? :/ Shocking sad stuff. -PB
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Are VicPol the dodgiest police force in the country or what? -PB
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+x+xPell is going to trial! -PB Where is old mate who used to defend this terrible man? On Sky News, with his show "The Bolt Report".
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+x+xPell is going to trial! -PB Where is old mate who used to defend this terrible man? The guy that believed the Orthodox church was basically infallible..... He'll tell you it's just a show trial. And he may be right
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BETHFC
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+xPell is going to trial! -PB Where is old mate who used to defend this terrible man? The guy that believed the Orthodox church was basically infallible.....
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paulbagzFC
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Pell is going to trial! -PB
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+xAnd Dastiyari is a traitorous, treasonous dog who needs to go now. Fucking idiot. *In my best snowflake voice* "but sir this is just a LNP beat up to have a go at brown people representing Australians and in any case the LNP is worse so lets just ignore this treasonous behavior". Go on ABC news FB and look at comments to some of these articles haha
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+x+x+xIs it a bit of a media beat up all this issue regarding Triple J changing the date of the Hottest 100?? I know I was amazed that it was labelled as "breaking news" on the ABC website when it happened (but they are an ABC service so I could understand). But for the Communications Minister to get involved ... I can't imagine he has listened to the radio station for some 20 plus years. For me I don't really care, it sounds like Triple J asked their audience and they responded. Most radio stations programs are determined by the listeners, so don't really see the problem. I personally don't listen to Triple J (although I will listen to some of their interview podcasts) and haven't done for over 10 years ... they sort of lose their relevance after your early 20's. Which is fine because their target audience is for the younger generations. The scheduling for Australia Day is now going to focus on Australian music (inc. indigenous artists), crosses to the Australian of the Year awards, and other features relating to the history (and future) of Australia. Triple J are wankers and I'll tell you why. They want Australia Day moved from Jan 26 BUT according to the ABC charter they have to be apolitical so as a way around this they've moved the hottest 100 instead. The same way those councils in Victoria have said they won't perform citizenship ceremonies on Jan 26. (As a stance against Jan 26 as Australia Day.) What they really should be doing is lobbying for Australia Day to be moved BUT they can't. So they've come up with this abortion of a stance to assuage their little lefty whinging SJW's. Personally I think that Australia Day should be moved. (And as a bonus it would shut that fat fuck Briggs up). And I say all of this as a 30 year rabid Triple J listener and supporter. Pretty sure noone cared when the hottest 100 wasnt done on jan 26. It used to be in march and or april. You sound like a dude i know who complained that jan 26 should stay aussie day as its sons birthday. You've completely misrepresented what I've said. Read what I wrote again.
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Carlito
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+x+xIs it a bit of a media beat up all this issue regarding Triple J changing the date of the Hottest 100?? I know I was amazed that it was labelled as "breaking news" on the ABC website when it happened (but they are an ABC service so I could understand). But for the Communications Minister to get involved ... I can't imagine he has listened to the radio station for some 20 plus years. For me I don't really care, it sounds like Triple J asked their audience and they responded. Most radio stations programs are determined by the listeners, so don't really see the problem. I personally don't listen to Triple J (although I will listen to some of their interview podcasts) and haven't done for over 10 years ... they sort of lose their relevance after your early 20's. Which is fine because their target audience is for the younger generations. The scheduling for Australia Day is now going to focus on Australian music (inc. indigenous artists), crosses to the Australian of the Year awards, and other features relating to the history (and future) of Australia. Triple J are wankers and I'll tell you why. They want Australia Day moved from Jan 26 BUT according to the ABC charter they have to be apolitical so as a way around this they've moved the hottest 100 instead. The same way those councils in Victoria have said they won't perform citizenship ceremonies on Jan 26. (As a stance against Jan 26 as Australia Day.) What they really should be doing is lobbying for Australia Day to be moved BUT they can't. So they've come up with this abortion of a stance to assuage their little lefty whinging SJW's. Personally I think that Australia Day should be moved. (And as a bonus it would shut that fat fuck Briggs up). And I say all of this as a 30 year rabid Triple J listener and supporter. Pretty sure noone cared when the hottest 100 wasnt done on jan 26. It used to be in march and or april. You sound like a dude i know who complained that jan 26 should stay aussie day as its sons birthday.
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+xAnd Dastiyari is a traitorous, treasonous dog who needs to go now. Fucking idiot. But...but...he's witty, approachable and makes funny jokes! He's for SSM, there's no way he's morally questionable! Seriously though he should resign, taking payments from and supporting the policy of communist totalitarians is unforgivable, especially for a public servant
He was a man of specific quirks. He believed that all meals should be earned through physical effort. He also contended, zealously like a drunk with a political point, that the third dimension would not be possible if it werent for the existence of water.
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Muz
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And Dastiyari is a traitorous, treasonous dog who needs to go now. Fucking idiot.
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Muz
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+xIs it a bit of a media beat up all this issue regarding Triple J changing the date of the Hottest 100?? I know I was amazed that it was labelled as "breaking news" on the ABC website when it happened (but they are an ABC service so I could understand). But for the Communications Minister to get involved ... I can't imagine he has listened to the radio station for some 20 plus years. For me I don't really care, it sounds like Triple J asked their audience and they responded. Most radio stations programs are determined by the listeners, so don't really see the problem. I personally don't listen to Triple J (although I will listen to some of their interview podcasts) and haven't done for over 10 years ... they sort of lose their relevance after your early 20's. Which is fine because their target audience is for the younger generations. The scheduling for Australia Day is now going to focus on Australian music (inc. indigenous artists), crosses to the Australian of the Year awards, and other features relating to the history (and future) of Australia. Triple J are wankers and I'll tell you why. They want Australia Day moved from Jan 26 BUT according to the ABC charter they have to be apolitical so as a way around this they've moved the hottest 100 instead. The same way those councils in Victoria have said they won't perform citizenship ceremonies on Jan 26. (As a stance against Jan 26 as Australia Day.) What they really should be doing is lobbying for Australia Day to be moved BUT they can't. So they've come up with this abortion of a stance to assuage their little lefty whinging SJW's. Personally I think that Australia Day should be moved. (And as a bonus it would shut that fat fuck Briggs up). And I say all of this as a 30 year rabid Triple J listener and supporter.
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Is it a bit of a media beat up all this issue regarding Triple J changing the date of the Hottest 100?? I know I was amazed that it was labelled as "breaking news" on the ABC website when it happened (but they are an ABC service so I could understand).
But for the Communications Minister to get involved ... I can't imagine he has listened to the radio station for some 20 plus years.
For me I don't really care, it sounds like Triple J asked their audience and they responded. Most radio stations programs are determined by the listeners, so don't really see the problem. I personally don't listen to Triple J (although I will listen to some of their interview podcasts) and haven't done for over 10 years ... they sort of lose their relevance after your early 20's. Which is fine because their target audience is for the younger generations. The scheduling for Australia Day is now going to focus on Australian music (inc. indigenous artists), crosses to the Australian of the Year awards, and other features relating to the history (and future) of Australia.
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+xInteresting to see the allegations hitting the newspaper, these stories have been floating around northern Sydney for 25 years, same as they did about Robert Hughes. Assuming you are talking about Don Burke?? I can't imagine the "victims" would have much to gain from speaking out now other than justice / truth. But every man deserves their presumption of not guilty.
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Interesting to see the allegations hitting the newspaper, these stories have been floating around northern Sydney for 25 years, same as they did about Robert Hughes.
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+xhttp://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-18/nbn-complaints-to-tio-surge-in-last-financial-year/9058336?section=technologyIt would be interesting to know how many of these complainers voted for the Coalition and their modified NBN plan. I don't like any particular party, but when the solution to improving our internet infrastructure is to cut costs by reducing the quality of the product being installed can we really be surprised with the number of issues with the service it then provides?? Our NBN at home is slower than the ADLS 2 we use to have. I have notified our service provider but unfortunately they've said it is what it is ... It's what happens when elections are based off a fear of brown people rather than actual policies.
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+xhttp://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-18/nbn-complaints-to-tio-surge-in-last-financial-year/9058336?section=technologyIt would be interesting to know how many of these complainers voted for the Coalition and their modified NBN plan. I don't like any particular party, but when the solution to improving our internet infrastructure is to cut costs by reducing the quality of the product being installed can we really be surprised with the number of issues with the service it then provides?? Our NBN at home is slower than the ADLS 2 we use to have. I have notified our service provider but unfortunately they've said it is what it is ... I literally voted in small tech based parties.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-18/nbn-complaints-to-tio-surge-in-last-financial-year/9058336?section=technologyIt would be interesting to know how many of these complainers voted for the Coalition and their modified NBN plan. I don't like any particular party, but when the solution to improving our internet infrastructure is to cut costs by reducing the quality of the product being installed can we really be surprised with the number of issues with the service it then provides?? Our NBN at home is slower than the ADLS 2 we use to have. I have notified our service provider but unfortunately they've said it is what it is ...
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paulbagzFC
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If people don't wanna marry others that's fine, all the more market share for those that choose too. -PB
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+x+x+x+x+x+xVote No. You know Australia will despite the left wing fascists who will probably riot & attempt to blow up something Christian despite those of the Islamic faith who hold very firm beliefs on gay marriage will all vote no. Of course because the left wing fascists are conveniently using those of the Islamic faith to further their sick fuck anti freedom agenda they won't say a word against their Islamic brothers who will get the no vote over the line. Vote No. Wouldn't allowing same sex marriage be seen as gaining freedoms for the individual? Depends If you are forcing priests to marry gay couples then you are not impeding religious freedom? Why would priests be forced to marry couples that don't follow their religious dogma?? They already don't allow this, why would this change afterwards?? You are incredibly naive if you don't there will be a push to change that. As Scott21 pointed out they are pushing it in Sweden. For the church of Sweden, the state religion. Pretty different scenario. Like he said, dont be naive. I dont think it matters if it is state or not. What happens after this happens? Go for the other churches....
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+x+x+x+x+xVote No. You know Australia will despite the left wing fascists who will probably riot & attempt to blow up something Christian despite those of the Islamic faith who hold very firm beliefs on gay marriage will all vote no. Of course because the left wing fascists are conveniently using those of the Islamic faith to further their sick fuck anti freedom agenda they won't say a word against their Islamic brothers who will get the no vote over the line. Vote No. Wouldn't allowing same sex marriage be seen as gaining freedoms for the individual? Depends If you are forcing priests to marry gay couples then you are not impeding religious freedom? Why would priests be forced to marry couples that don't follow their religious dogma?? They already don't allow this, why would this change afterwards?? You are incredibly naive if you don't there will be a push to change that. As Scott21 pointed out they are pushing it in Sweden. For the church of Sweden, the state religion. Pretty different scenario.
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+x+x+xVote No. You know Australia will despite the left wing fascists who will probably riot & attempt to blow up something Christian despite those of the Islamic faith who hold very firm beliefs on gay marriage will all vote no. Of course because the left wing fascists are conveniently using those of the Islamic faith to further their sick fuck anti freedom agenda they won't say a word against their Islamic brothers who will get the no vote over the line. Vote No. Wouldn't allowing same sex marriage be seen as gaining freedoms for the individual? Depends If you are forcing priests to marry gay couples then you are not impeding religious freedom? Yeah. I got married in Australia, to a woman. I found a guy to marry us, thorugh a church. The guy was a pastor, but not head pastor. He married us and we got to choose how much "god" we wanted, from zero to much. This was his private company/business. I would not want him forced to perform gay weddings if he didnt see fit. I can agree with venues (outside of religous ownerships), restuarants, florists, but not the individual. Why? Because there wont be a shortage of people willing to perfom them any way and state/government should also perform them. Its not like it will be legal but no one will do it. If someone can prove membership or connection to church or mosque or temple etc they should be able to say no. Ottherwise I would vote no.
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+x+x+x+xVote No. You know Australia will despite the left wing fascists who will probably riot & attempt to blow up something Christian despite those of the Islamic faith who hold very firm beliefs on gay marriage will all vote no. Of course because the left wing fascists are conveniently using those of the Islamic faith to further their sick fuck anti freedom agenda they won't say a word against their Islamic brothers who will get the no vote over the line. Vote No. Wouldn't allowing same sex marriage be seen as gaining freedoms for the individual? Depends If you are forcing priests to marry gay couples then you are not impeding religious freedom? Why would priests be forced to marry couples that don't follow their religious dogma?? They already don't allow this, why would this change afterwards?? You are incredibly naive if you don't there will be a push to change that. As Scott21 pointed out they are pushing it in Sweden.
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+x+x+x+xVote No. You know Australia will despite the left wing fascists who will probably riot & attempt to blow up something Christian despite those of the Islamic faith who hold very firm beliefs on gay marriage will all vote no. Of course because the left wing fascists are conveniently using those of the Islamic faith to further their sick fuck anti freedom agenda they won't say a word against their Islamic brothers who will get the no vote over the line. Vote No. Wouldn't allowing same sex marriage be seen as gaining freedoms for the individual? Depends If you are forcing priests to marry gay couples then you are not impeding religious freedom? Why would priests be forced to marry couples that don't follow their religious dogma?? They already don't allow this, why would this change afterwards?? This. -PB
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+x+x+xVote No. You know Australia will despite the left wing fascists who will probably riot & attempt to blow up something Christian despite those of the Islamic faith who hold very firm beliefs on gay marriage will all vote no. Of course because the left wing fascists are conveniently using those of the Islamic faith to further their sick fuck anti freedom agenda they won't say a word against their Islamic brothers who will get the no vote over the line. Vote No. Wouldn't allowing same sex marriage be seen as gaining freedoms for the individual? Depends If you are forcing priests to marry gay couples then you are not impeding religious freedom? Why would priests be forced to marry couples that don't follow their religious dogma?? They already don't allow this, why would this change afterwards??
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+x+xVote No. You know Australia will despite the left wing fascists who will probably riot & attempt to blow up something Christian despite those of the Islamic faith who hold very firm beliefs on gay marriage will all vote no. Of course because the left wing fascists are conveniently using those of the Islamic faith to further their sick fuck anti freedom agenda they won't say a word against their Islamic brothers who will get the no vote over the line. Vote No. Wouldn't allowing same sex marriage be seen as gaining freedoms for the individual? Depends If you are forcing priests to marry gay couples then you are not impeding religious freedom?
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sokorny
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+xVote No. You know Australia will despite the left wing fascists who will probably riot & attempt to blow up something Christian despite those of the Islamic faith who hold very firm beliefs on gay marriage will all vote no. Of course because the left wing fascists are conveniently using those of the Islamic faith to further their sick fuck anti freedom agenda they won't say a word against their Islamic brothers who will get the no vote over the line. Vote No. Wouldn't allowing same sex marriage be seen as gaining freedoms for the individual?
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+x+x+xI think they should be allowed to marry. But, that individuals and churches have the right to refuse to do it and not be charged with discrimination. As stated under current laws in Australia a church can refuse to marry people on a myriad of issues (that normally would be illegally under discrimination laws) due to exemptions in those laws (maybe in the other Australian politics thread??). I think this is where people get confused. It is not a matter of children as adoption and child protection laws are completely separate to the Marriage Act. Similarly the Anti-Discrimination laws are separate to the Marriage Act (and already give exemption on religious matters). But what of the individual? A person that performs marriages as a job outside a religious institution may they deny a couple their service? I think they should be able to say no in this instance. The murky area is whether a venue, cake maker, suit hire etc can say no because people will be against and it will challenge their views. The argument could be that there are other places that will sell you that service so go there. As for the church thing, I look at the country I live in - No priest working for the Church of Sweden should be allowed to refuse to wed same-sex couples, Swedish Prime Minister Stefan Löfven said in an interview with a church newspaper. "Us Social Democrats work to ensure that all priests should wed all people, including same-sex couples. If you are a midwife you either have to carry out abortions, or you have to find another profession. The same goes for priests who do not want to wed homosexuals," Löfven told the paper. 'All priests should wed same-sex couples': Swedish PM - The LocalThis will happen in Australia also. If the act is passed, the left will push for a change in the marriage act. Because of what lollywood says, the destruction of the nuclear family, loss of freedom and destroy christianity are their goals... Australia has an anti-discrimination law that already gives religions exemptions for marriage, so doesn't matter if the marriage act changes the anti-discrimination law would also have to remove religious exemptions (which is a completely different matter) and unlikely to happen (then people not of that denomination would also have to married by that religion as otherwise it would be discrimination). In regards to the individual, no they can't discriminate. That is why we have anti-discrimination laws in Australia. You would have to repeal the anti-discrimination laws to allow the businesses to discriminate against consumers (which then allows them to not serve people because they are black, Asian, different religion, atheists, disabled etc. etc.)
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