Ashes First Test


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Decentric - 3 Aug 2019 9:39 PM
baggygreenmania - 3 Aug 2019 9:27 PM

You are a fan boy of Hazlewood, Baggers! 

From what I have seen here of Patto and Cummins.. feel Haze and Siddle partnership wudda done better. Yes Cummins has improved.. but his poor day yesterday helped the Pommies to parity with us.
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baggygreenmania - 3 Aug 2019 9:47 PM
Decentric - 3 Aug 2019 9:33 PM

Me. 

You must be joking to suggest dropping GOAT, Baggers! 
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Decentric - 3 Aug 2019 9:51 PM
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You must be joking to suggest dropping GOAT, Baggers! 

Not so much dropping him..rather use him in a horses for courses manner.

Paddles has a point. Lyon leaked runs and let off pressure yesterday when introduced too early because we went into this game one bowler short.
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Broad is going well for a number 10.
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baggygreenmania - 3 Aug 2019 9:54 PM
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Not so much dropping him..rather use him for horses for courses manner.

Paddles has a point. Lyon leaked runs and let off pressure yesterday when introduced too early because we went into this game one bowler short.

Lyon has been very good today and had  plenty of good moments yesterday. He only conceded just over 2  per over as well yesterday.
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Lyon is all over Woakes.
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You are a fan boy of Hazlewood, Baggers! 

Yes I am DC. I happen to think that a specialist seamer is more skilful than a tearaway. He has to put the ball on a handkerchief  and not just let rip which requires brawn not brain.  Despite Haze's drop in wicket taking form.. he remains the best seamer in the country imho..
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Keyboard Warrior - 3 Aug 2019 10:01 PM
baggygreenmania - 3 Aug 2019 9:54 PM

Lyon has been very good today and had  plenty of good moments yesterday. He only conceded just over 2  per over as well yesterday.

Lyon always looks good when he has ruff to assist him.  He leaked early runs yesterday. Check the commentary. Went for a boundary almost off his first 5/6 overs. I dont altogether blame him as he was forced to bowl with a newish ball as we lack a fourth paceman in this game.
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baggygreenmania - 3 Aug 2019 10:07 PM

You are a fan boy of Hazlewood, Baggers! 

Yes I am DC. I happen to think that a specialist seamer is more skilful than a tearaway. He has to put the ball on a handkerchief  and not just let rip which requires brawn not brain.  Despite Haze's drop in wicket taking form.. he remains the best seamer in the country imho..

In cricket we have stats. 

Why fo you think H struggled to take wickets in the last 12 months of Tests. 
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Will anderson bat? I think a 50 run lead puts australia slightly back in front

We're in a good position considering some rotten luck (to be fair that luck is balanced by andersons injury)
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Decentric - 3 Aug 2019 10:20 PM
baggygreenmania - 3 Aug 2019 10:07 PM

In cricket we have stats. 

Why fo you think H struggled to take wickets in the last 12 months of Tests. 

Dunno to be honest. Looked to be bowling the same pressure building stuff he has always bowled. Just a lack of wickets phase his career is having?
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yesterday lyon was bowling hand granades without luck

a paradox of his career is he has not taken as many wickets as you would expect when conditions are favorable yet often finds a way in tough conditions

O'keefe by contrast is a bit like jadeja. Looks innocuous but takes wickets!
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baggygreenmania - 3 Aug 2019 10:07 PM

You are a fan boy of Hazlewood, Baggers! 

Yes I am DC. I happen to think that a specialist seamer is more skilful than a tearaway. He has to put the ball on a handkerchief  and not just let rip which requires brawn not brain.  Despite Haze's drop in wicket taking form.. he remains the best seamer in the country imho..

Actually, H may be quicker than Patto over an entire Test at this point in time. 
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grazorblade - 3 Aug 2019 10:27 PM
Will anderson bat? I think a 50 run lead puts australia slightly back in front

We're in a good position considering some rotten luck (to be fair that luck is balanced by andersons injury)

Max 75 lead grazor otherwise we are behind the 8 ball. Thankfully they dont have a class spinner as this deck is turning and it is only the second day. Hope also Anderson is not fit to bowl.
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Decentric - 3 Aug 2019 10:30 PM
baggygreenmania - 3 Aug 2019 10:07 PM

Actually, H may be quicker than Patto over an entire Test at this point in time. 

Pace is not everything. Hazlewood does not need pace to take wickets.. he needs guile and skill and luck.. specialist seamers need luck as they dont always get the conditions that best suit them. 
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grazorblade - 3 Aug 2019 10:30 PM
yesterday lyon was bowling hand granades without luck


I thought so too when I was watching. 
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grazorblade - 3 Aug 2019 10:30 PM
yesterday lyon was bowling hand granades without luck

a paradox of his career is he has not taken as many wickets as you would expect when conditions are favorable yet often finds a way in tough conditions

O'keefe by contrast is a bit like jadeja. Looks innocuous but takes wickets!

I rate Jadeja over O'Keefe. 
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baggygreenmania - 3 Aug 2019 10:07 PM

You are a fan boy of Hazlewood, Baggers! 

Yes I am DC. I happen to think that a specialist seamer is more skilful than a tearaway. He has to put the ball on a handkerchief  and not just let rip which requires brawn not brain.  Despite Haze's drop in wicket taking form.. he remains the best seamer in the country imho..

Most of the posters on WP agree with me.
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Ok can we win it from here?  50/50.
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baggygreenmania - 3 Aug 2019 10:32 PM
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Max 75 lead grazor otherwise we are behind the 8 ball. Thankfully they dont have a class spinner as this deck is turning and it is only the second day. Hope also Anderson is not fit to bowl.

I’d prefer to see a victory with England having all players being fully fit. 
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baggygreenmania - 3 Aug 2019 10:42 PM
Ok can we win it from here?  50/50.

We need to take the next 2 wickets quickly.
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Sangakarra just released a stat that stated Lyon has beaten the bat over 30 times. 

How does Broad manage to keep sweeping him from wide of off stump to leg? 
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Decentric - 3 Aug 2019 10:51 PM
Sangakarra just released a stat that stated Lyon has beaten the bat over 30 times. 

How does Broad manage to keep sweeping him from wide of off stump to leg? 

He is getting good assistance from the ruff. Some of those plays and misses may have been negated with some smart footwork too.
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Keyboard Warrior - 3 Aug 2019 10:45 PM
baggygreenmania - 3 Aug 2019 10:42 PM

We need to take the next 2 wickets quickly.

52 lead. Pattinson needs to rip out these last two soon.
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baggygreenmania - 3 Aug 2019 10:56 PM
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52 lead. Pattinson needs to rip out these last two soon.

Anyone needs to get them! 
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Why the lack of short balls? 
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baggygreenmania - 3 Aug 2019 10:56 PM
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52 lead. Pattinson needs to rip out these last two soon.

Times like this we miss Starc.. the best tail remover in the business.
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Decentric - 3 Aug 2019 11:01 PM
baggygreenmania - 3 Aug 2019 10:56 PM

Anyone needs to get them! 

Patto needs to do something to warrant reselection for Lords.
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lead getting a little more dangerous here
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bit of a disaster this session you have to say

we havent looked likely
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