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sub007
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+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat’s pathetic is the lynch mob for George Pell, just be honest and admit that the main driver of all this spite isn’t because he’s been convicted as a paedo but because he’s a high ranking Catholic church officer. If he was a Muslim/teacher/baptist this barely would’ve made the news. Also there was no evidence, no eyewitnesses, someone told a story and the police and jury believed them, or at least really wanted to. Everyone in their hearts knows that this was a doubtful conviction but they are so consumed with hate for Pell and the Church they can’t think straight. Even if the was found innocent you would all say he got away with it. There’s no committment to the truth or facts here, just a committment to hate and destruction. I agree with this. This trial seems to be more of a lynching. I can't say for sure whether he is guilty or not, and if he is he deserves to be punished but the entire ramblings of the general public in social media has been disgusting. This isn't justice but vigilante ramblings. This case has only reviewed notoriety because it's the Catholic Church. If it was an Islamic Imam, you just watch the same people brush it under the carpet saying "nothing to see here". I am not against the conviction if he is truly guilty. I can only condemn any man that has done such vulgar sexually predatory acts against minors from a position of power and trust (whether religious or secular), but there is a lot more to this case that meets the eye. He was found guilty IN A FAIR TRIAL. Just because you didn't want him to be guilty, it doesn't mean there's an ulterior motive to this case. Pell copping shit for his crimes isn't disgusting. It's the least that he deserves. What is disgusting is that people are defending a convicted pedo and are trying to de-legitimise the jury and the legal system in general. Bullshit. This would have been front page news regardless of what religion the offender is from. And how would you know that there is more to this than what meets the eye? You weren't in the jury or the courtroom. I am not in a position to say either way because I am not privy to the evidence they have or the statements made by witnesses or have any technical knowledge of the case wahtsoever. And I would suspect that the majority of people are in the same boat. Are you for real? I doubt very much if someone asked you your thoughts on any particular case where the defendant has been found guilty, whether that be Adrian Bayley or Brett Peter Cowan for example that you would say "I'm not privy to all the evidence/information of the case, so I can't say but he's not guilty in my eyes yet, you sheeple hahaha". It's fucking absurd, you sound like a nutjob. You are the one who is clearly biased in this case. Pell had the best defense team in the land and even then he was found guilty, he deserves every bit of the abuse he cops even moreso, what a vile disgusting man. It doesn't take away from the fact that everyone actually has an opinion about this case despite being ignorant of the evidence at hand. And no I ver said he wasn't guilty. It is possible he is guilty. It is also very possible that he isn't guilty at all. No smoking gun evidence anywhere, just pure hearsay. You are being ignorant of the evidence at hand. Pell was found guilty even with the best defence team there is. You may not have said directly that he was not guilty (to cover your ass) but you have obviously implied it.
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mouflonrouge
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xWhat’s pathetic is the lynch mob for George Pell, just be honest and admit that the main driver of all this spite isn’t because he’s been convicted as a paedo but because he’s a high ranking Catholic church officer. If he was a Muslim/teacher/baptist this barely would’ve made the news. Also there was no evidence, no eyewitnesses, someone told a story and the police and jury believed them, or at least really wanted to. Everyone in their hearts knows that this was a doubtful conviction but they are so consumed with hate for Pell and the Church they can’t think straight. Even if the was found innocent you would all say he got away with it. There’s no committment to the truth or facts here, just a committment to hate and destruction. I agree with this. This trial seems to be more of a lynching. I can't say for sure whether he is guilty or not, and if he is he deserves to be punished but the entire ramblings of the general public in social media has been disgusting. This isn't justice but vigilante ramblings. This case has only reviewed notoriety because it's the Catholic Church. If it was an Islamic Imam, you just watch the same people brush it under the carpet saying "nothing to see here". I am not against the conviction if he is truly guilty. I can only condemn any man that has done such vulgar sexually predatory acts against minors from a position of power and trust (whether religious or secular), but there is a lot more to this case that meets the eye. He was found guilty IN A FAIR TRIAL. Just because you didn't want him to be guilty, it doesn't mean there's an ulterior motive to this case. Pell copping shit for his crimes isn't disgusting. It's the least that he deserves. What is disgusting is that people are defending a convicted pedo and are trying to de-legitimise the jury and the legal system in general. Bullshit. This would have been front page news regardless of what religion the offender is from. And how would you know that there is more to this than what meets the eye? You weren't in the jury or the courtroom. I am not in a position to say either way because I am not privy to the evidence they have or the statements made by witnesses or have any technical knowledge of the case wahtsoever. And I would suspect that the majority of people are in the same boat. Are you for real? I doubt very much if someone asked you your thoughts on any particular case where the defendant has been found guilty, whether that be Adrian Bayley or Brett Peter Cowan for example that you would say "I'm not privy to all the evidence/information of the case, so I can't say but he's not guilty in my eyes yet, you sheeple hahaha". It's fucking absurd, you sound like a nutjob. You are the one who is clearly biased in this case. Pell had the best defense team in the land and even then he was found guilty, he deserves every bit of the abuse he cops even moreso, what a vile disgusting man. It doesn't take away from the fact that everyone actually has an opinion about this case despite being ignorant of the evidence at hand. And no I ver said he wasn't guilty. It is possible he is guilty. It is also very possible that he isn't guilty at all. No smoking gun evidence anywhere, just pure hearsay. You are being ignorant of the evidence at hand. Pell was found guilty even with the best defence team there is. You may not have said directly that he was not guilty (to cover your ass) but you have obviously implied it. Ignorant of what? I feel my IQ dropping by engaging with a dimwit!
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Carlito
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Wow two idiots still trying to defend a paedophile because they wanna argue. Seriously this is becoming sad that two people who should know better . Don't care about the victims . And they wonder why no one comes gow are with rape allegations when people like to judge the victims instead of the perp
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+xWow two idiots still trying to defend a paedophile because they wanna argue. Seriously this is becoming sad that two people who should know better . Don't care about the victims . And they wonder why no one comes gow are with rape allegations when people like to judge the victims instead of the perp No one tried to defend anyone, or have we presumed anything unlike you. In fact, we do not have any intention whatsoever, to defend a pedophile. I suggest you go back to school because you lack basic comprehension.
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sub007
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+x+xWow two idiots still trying to defend a paedophile because they wanna argue. Seriously this is becoming sad that two people who should know better . Don't care about the victims . And they wonder why no one comes gow are with rape allegations when people like to judge the victims instead of the perp No one tried to defend anyone, or have we presumed anything unlike you. In fact, we do not have any intention whatsoever, to defend a pedophile. I suggest you go back to school because you lack basic comprehension. You refused to accept Pell's verdict. You also defended Milo when he said "molestation is completely consensual". https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1309671/The-Australian-Politics-thread-Prime-Minister-Scott-Morrison?PageIndex=693
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+x+x+xThat’s probably true, but it’s clinically proven that people can invent memories from thin air and come to believe they are completely true. Look at all the loons who believe they were abducted by aliens and probed in the ***. The mind is a fragile thing.In regards to Pell I find it hard it really implausible that a respected Priest, after delivering M*** on a Sunday, would suddenly corner a couple of boys and rape them in broad daylight in a public space. It just doesn’t add up. I do not find that implausible at all. It shows what power the Catholic priests think they have and that they think they can get away with anything. There is nothing respectable about being a Catholic priest. A prejudiced statement against from the outset! Definitely
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+x+x+x+xThe accuser took the stand and withstood Robert Richter's notoriously withering line of questioning. This is one of the best defense attorneys money can buy, and the evidence the accuser gave was still enough to convict him. Unless you have any proof that the verdict was prejudiced, you have to accept the decision of the court even if it means your world view crashes around you. Pell being guilty fits brilliantly into my world view, but Pell being innocent does not effect it. I do not have any evidence that this verdict was prejudiced but there is no doubt that in general jurors are going to be influenced by their own personal biases. This will effect who or what they are more likely to believe or reject as being true. The accuser withstanding cross examination is a good sign he was telling the truth but it certainly does not guarantee it. No ***, that's why it's the verdict needs to be proven "beyond reasonable doubt" and not "100% absolute certainty". So your argument basically boils down to "Although I don't have any proof the conviction is biased, there's a possibility it is so I'm not going to believe the verdict". That means you wouldn't accept any conviction ever because there is always a chance of it being wrong. As you chose to falsely accuse me of defending paedophiles in another thread I am done talking to you, you are beneath contempt. Lel, just admit you've been blown the fuck out because your pathetic excuse of an "argument" does not hold up to any scrutiny.
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What a shock, and oddly short sentence. Wonder if he will actually be housed in Maxsec, and if so if he will last the 3-4 years before parole. -PB
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The judgement is pretty detailed & spells out why he should remain in prison. Good.
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Where's moronflorugue gone? Bit of egg on face here.
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+xWhere's moronflorugue gone? Bit of egg on face here. If you don't like the laws of this country, leave! \o/
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Eat the biggest bag of shit. No surprise Bolt and Co are lining up to defend a fucking pedo. -PB
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Carlito
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+xEat the biggest bag of shit. No surprise Bolt and Co are lining up to defend a fucking pedo. -PB You should read caffpol . And amps on facey . The amount of edgelords trying to say he is innocent because they want to start a fight is grating
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rusty
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Worth noting that one of the appeal judges found in Pell’s favour, finding the complainant concocted the whole shebang.
At the end of the day the courts are ruled by left wing Church hating zealots. Pell never stood a chance.
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Carlito
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+xWorth noting that one of the appeal judges found in Pell’s favour, finding the complainant concocted the whole shebang. At the end of the day the courts are ruled by left wing Church hating zealots. Pell never stood a chance. What? Also judges are apolitical and were not America. The judges get into the courts via merit and not by right wing left politics. And Pell is guilty
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I don’t think Pell is guilty, it just seems too much like a hit on the Catholic Church, the scapegoat being a Cardinal the ultimate prize. I didn’t know in order to convict someone you could just make criminal allegations about them and be really convincing about it, and that other evidence or lack of didn’t matter.
Anyway no one really know for sure if he did it or not, either you hate the church and believe he did or you don’t and believe he’s possibly innocent.
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tsf
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History tells us:
he associated with paedos.
He enabled paedos
he turned a blind eye to victims
he created more victims by give his mates access to other kids
Children who were suicidal he would not help
and a jury, police and finally judges found he was a paedo too
just a shame hell doesn’t exist.
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Carlito
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+xI don’t think Pell is guilty, it just seems too much like a hit on the Catholic Church, the scapegoat being a Cardinal the ultimate prize. I didn’t know in order to convict someone you could just make criminal allegations about them and be really convincing about it, and that other evidence or lack of didn’t matter. Anyway no one really know for sure if he did it or not, either you hate the church and believe he did or you don’t and believe he’s possibly innocent. Hate the church? I'm catholic. And he is guilty and most of us Catholics belive he is.
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rusty
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+x+xI don’t think Pell is guilty, it just seems too much like a hit on the Catholic Church, the scapegoat being a Cardinal the ultimate prize. I didn’t know in order to convict someone you could just make criminal allegations about them and be really convincing about it, and that other evidence or lack of didn’t matter. Anyway no one really know for sure if he did it or not, either you hate the church and believe he did or you don’t and believe he’s possibly innocent. Hate the church? I'm catholic. And he is guilty and most of us Catholics belive he is. Bullshit you’re Catholic. When was the last time you confessed? Fucking pretender lol
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rusty
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+xLeft wing church hating media outlets tells us: he associated with paedos. He enabled paedos he turned a blind eye to victims he created more victims by give his mates access to other kids Children who were suicidal he would not help and a jury, police and finally judges found he was a paedo too just a shame hell doesn’t exist. I made a slight correction to your comment there
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+xI don’t think Pell is guilty, what part of the 300 page report didn't you agree with?
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Rusty just outed himself as a pedo defender.
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+xWhere's moronflorugue gone? Bit of egg on face here. I think he stopped posting when people started realising that we was a troll multi and stopped replying to his posts.
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rusty
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+xRusty just outed himself as a pedo defender. Is the judge who upheld the appeal a pedo defender as well,
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+x+xI don’t think Pell is guilty, what part of the 300 page report didn't you agree with? I’m just a skeptic of courts, judges and the justice system I spose. Especially 300 page reports.
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+x+x+xI don’t think Pell is guilty, what part of the 300 page report didn't you agree with? I’m just a skeptic of courts, judges and the justice system I spose. Especially 300 page reports. Well to be fair you’re a catholic so of course you’re skeptical of evidence.
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rusty
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+x+x+x+xI don’t think Pell is guilty, what part of the 300 page report didn't you agree with? I’m just a skeptic of courts, judges and the justice system I spose. Especially 300 page reports. Well to be fair you’re a catholic so of course you’re skeptical of evidence. I’m agnostic
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tsf
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+x+x+x+x+xI don’t think Pell is guilty, what part of the 300 page report didn't you agree with? I’m just a skeptic of courts, judges and the justice system I spose. Especially 300 page reports. Well to be fair you’re a catholic so of course you’re skeptical of evidence. I’m agnostic Don’t mess with my wise cracks!
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Carlito
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+x+x+xI don’t think Pell is guilty, it just seems too much like a hit on the Catholic Church, the scapegoat being a Cardinal the ultimate prize. I didn’t know in order to convict someone you could just make criminal allegations about them and be really convincing about it, and that other evidence or lack of didn’t matter. Anyway no one really know for sure if he did it or not, either you hate the church and believe he did or you don’t and believe he’s possibly innocent. Hate the church? I'm catholic. And he is guilty and most of us Catholics belive he is. Bullshit you’re Catholic. When was the last time you confessed? Fucking pretender lol Two weeks ago actually. Went to confess when I went to church . Also why are you trying to defend a convicted pedophiles? Most Catholics know he is guilty or are u doing the Andrew bolt defence because you're so beholden to your rightie ideals that you cant comprehend that he is guilty
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