Membership for 2019/2020


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someguyjc - 23 Aug 2019 9:19 AM
AJF - 23 Aug 2019 8:17 AM

Although there is plenty of time for that number to catch up it's a bit of a concern considering the positives that should be helping. In addition to WU being introduced, I'm surprised WSW members don't seem to be returning in solid numbers considering they have a fantastic new stadium.
Most clubs seem to be keeping the numbers to themselves but if we take that 45,128 and minus the numbers we know (MV 17,778, PG 5,984, MC 4,500) we get 16,866. If we average that between the remaining 8 clubs we get an average of 2,108 per club. Not great.
One thing to note about the Independent HAL is that it hasn't been completely finalised yet. The clubs still do not officially own their IP. Once that happens I reckon will see new marketing campaigns from all of the clubs. Especially when it comes to merch sales.

I understand that Wanderers had over 13,000 auto renewals so I doubt that the 45,18 is up to date.  I think clubs are majoring on marketing and building memberships rather than reporting numbers.
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someguyjc - 23 Aug 2019 9:19 AM
AJF - 23 Aug 2019 8:17 AM

Although there is plenty of time for that number to catch up it's a bit of a concern considering the positives that should be helping. In addition to WU being introduced, I'm surprised WSW members don't seem to be returning in solid numbers considering they have a fantastic new stadium.
Most clubs seem to be keeping the numbers to themselves but if we take that 45,128 and minus the numbers we know (MV 17,778, PG 5,984, MC 4,500) we get 16,866. If we average that between the remaining 8 clubs we get an average of 2,108 per club. Not great.
One thing to note about the Independent HAL is that it hasn't been completely finalised yet. The clubs still do not officially own their IP. Once that happens I reckon will see new marketing campaigns from all of the clubs. Especially when it comes to merch sales.

not sure if the numbers are completely accurate or being updated regularly. apparently the roar are tracking at similar numbers as last year. I think i have heard they are around the 5-6k mark at the moment. that would leave 10k for NJ, SFC, WSW, CCM, NIX, ADL and WU. there is no way that SFC is running below the roar, WSW should be about the same as the roar if not more, ADL i would guess is around MC same with NJ. Nix, WU and CCM i would guess around 2k each (though WU only just opened up memberships). 
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AJF - 23 Aug 2019 8:17 AM
Membership total from same day last year was 71,107 and today it's sitting at 45,128, down 37% year on year even though WU are also in.

Independent HAL better start popping some of those thought bubbles and do something otherwise this could get real ugly

Links below:
 https://forum.insidesport.com.au/FindPost2690159.aspx

https://www.a-league.com.au/membership

So where do this years numbers come from? 

The A League website isn’t updating so is there another source?
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Waz - 23 Aug 2019 10:10 AM
AJF - 23 Aug 2019 8:17 AM

So where do this years numbers come from? 

The A League website isn’t updating so is there another sousource? 

@Waz, thats the official HAL website, same as has been used in previous seasons. Cant blame FFA for this one, perhaps new Independent HAL should add this to their list of thought bubbles.









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AJF - 23 Aug 2019 10:14 AM
Waz - 23 Aug 2019 10:10 AM

@Waz, thats the official HAL website, same as has been used in previous seasons. Cant blame FFA for this one, perhaps new Independent HAL should add this to their list of thought bubbles.

When I checked the HAL site it was blank for all the clubs but just double checked after your post and saw the top has 45k even though the individual club entries are blank. 

So until the the individual club numbers open up we don’t know if we’re comparing apples to apples or not. 

45k for all clubs would be a disaster. 

45k for 2-3 clubs would be on par with last years finish (basically that looks like the auto renewals for Vuck, the drive-bys and the Smurfs).  



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I would expect Roar to crack 15,000 members easily this year - not because of any improvement in the team or better marketing but because of Redcliffe. 

Theyll likely get their 6k full season members again and another 6k of the 3/5 game memberships at Suncorp. 

Then the three games at Redcliffe will give them another 4-5k in 3 game memberships 
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Expecting Nix's to hit 5 to 6k this year. I think we will get more once the league becomes fully independent so the confidence will be there. 

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nomates - 23 Aug 2019 11:17 AM
Expecting Nix's to hit 5 to 6k this year. I think we will get more once the league becomes fully independent so the confidence will be there. 

Hey Nomates,
Surely there a 10,000 to 15,000 rectangular stadium in or around Auckland that the Nix could play out of? The cake tin has no atmosphere.

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Waz - 23 Aug 2019 10:25 AM
AJF - 23 Aug 2019 10:14 AM

When I checked the HAL site it was blank for all the clubs but just double checked after your post and saw the top has 45k even though the individual club entries are blank. 

So until the the individual club numbers open up we don’t know if we’re comparing apples to apples or not. 

45k for all clubs would be a disaster. 

45k for 2-3 clubs would be on par with last years finish (basically that looks like the auto renewals for Vuck, the drive-bys and the Smurfs).  



Don't we crack 100-120k each year in members?
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Footballismyreligion - 23 Aug 2019 12:51 PM
nomates - 23 Aug 2019 11:17 AM

Hey Nomates,
Surely there a 10,000 to 15,000 rectangular stadium in or around Auckland that the Nix could play out of? The cake tin has no atmosphere.

Best thing to do is build our own stadium near Wellington, Auckland can have there own team and play where ever they like.


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Burztur - 23 Aug 2019 1:58 PM
Waz - 23 Aug 2019 10:25 AM

Don't we crack 100-120k each year in members?

Pretty much
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Waz - 23 Aug 2019 2:03 PM
Burztur - 23 Aug 2019 1:58 PM

Pretty much

Are they good numbers? compared to other codes or just football in general. 


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nomates - 23 Aug 2019 2:18 PM

Are they good numbers? compared to other codes or just football in general. 

well the AFL pass 1 million every year, so what do you think?
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nomates - 23 Aug 2019 2:18 PM
Waz - 23 Aug 2019 2:03 PM

Are they good numbers? compared to other codes or just football in general. 

Hard to say. 

I think they’re too low personally Roar should be 20k members by now, not 15k, as should 3 other clubs and Victory should be cracking 30k (although it’s hard to criticise their numbers). 

The bottom line is attendance is the number number that matters 
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Waz - 23 Aug 2019 2:27 PM
nomates - 23 Aug 2019 2:18 PM

Hard to say. 

I think they’re too low personally Roar should be 20k members by now, not 15k, as should 3 other clubs and Victory should be cracking 30k (although it’s hard to criticise their numbers). 

The bottom line is attendance is the number number that matters 

i think victory have trouble hitting 30k due to the number of seats at aami park or something 
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Waz - 23 Aug 2019 2:27 PM
nomates - 23 Aug 2019 2:18 PM

Hard to say. 

I think they’re too low personally Roar should be 20k members by now, not 15k, as should 3 other clubs and Victory should be cracking 30k (although it’s hard to criticise their numbers). 

The bottom line is attendance is the number number that matters 

”The bottom line is attendance is the number number that matters”

Said the accountant never 
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Waz - 23 Aug 2019 10:29 AM
I would expect Roar to crack 15,000 members easily this year - not because of any improvement in the team or better marketing but because of Redcliffe. 

Theyll likely get their 6k full season members again and another 6k of the 3/5 game memberships at Suncorp. 

Then the three games at Redcliffe will give them another 4-5k in 3 game memberships 

That many really? I'd be very impressed and amazed with 15k.. 
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Melbcityguy - 23 Aug 2019 2:31 PM
Waz - 23 Aug 2019 2:27 PM

i think victory have trouble hitting 30k due to the number of seats at aami park or something 

Pretty much. AAMI holds 30,500. Then you need to look at how the stadium is zoned for MV:
  • 17 x General Admin Bays.
  • 16 x C Bays (including 6 active bays and 1 dry bay).
  • 12 x B Bays.
  • 18 x A Bays.
  • 1 x Away Bay.
In order to get close to that 30k they would need to either attract more people willing to shell out for the A memberships or re-zone it so there is more B & C bays.
Realistically, that 25-27k number is about all they can achieve without moving back to Marvel for all games. But nobody wants that.


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I think 45k total supplied from FFA is a very old figure and may possibly not include all the clubs numbers. My guess is around 60-70k currently. 
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Victory up to 18,270. Any other clubs with current visible totals?
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TheRealFootballSupporter - 26 Aug 2019 11:36 AM
Victory up to 18,270. Any other clubs with current visible totals?

Jets 11,634
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TheRealFootballSupporter - 26 Aug 2019 11:36 AM
Victory up to 18,270. Any other clubs with current visible totals?

Melbourne has a strong membership culture, always have & it puts into stark relief Melbourne City's failure to engage the community.  
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Waz - 26 Aug 2019 11:47 AM
TheRealFootballSupporter - 26 Aug 2019 11:36 AM

Jets 11,634

That seems too good to be true with so much time left. 

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marconi101 - 26 Aug 2019 12:10 PM
Waz - 26 Aug 2019 11:47 AM

That seems too good to be true with so much time left. 

They do have the by far the cheapest memberships in the league. It wasn't all that long ago that they consistently had the second highest membership numbers in the league. If it wasn't for their owner getting Trumped, they would be in a very strong position right now.
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marconi101 - 26 Aug 2019 12:10 PM
Waz - 26 Aug 2019 11:47 AM

That seems too good to be true with so much time left. 

Can’t argue with your thought process. That numbers the one up on the website though. 
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Melbcityguy - 23 Aug 2019 2:31 PM

i think victory have trouble hitting 30k due to the number of seats at aami park or something 

i don't think its that. Its more about the downturn of the league in recent years. our numbers haven't dropped like most teams, but has clearly plateaued. I think the club could do a bit better with initiatives to grow memberships as well. But I guess all clubs can improve in this area.

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http://www.fromthestandsal.com/membership-tracker/

if that is true newcastle has beaten their record 
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marconi101 - 26 Aug 2019 12:10 PM
Waz - 26 Aug 2019 11:47 AM

That seems too good to be true with so much time left. 

Pretty positive that was our 18/19 season final tally, not a snowflakes chance in hell that is for this coming season.
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Figures at 25 August 2018.
ADL===  3, 530
ROA===  6, 044
MAR===  2, 919
MEC===  6, 477
MEV===  18, 990
JETs===  6, 309
PhG===  5, 100
SFC===  8, 566
NIX===  1, 651
WSW===  14, 730
Total –  74, 316

Membership totals have been updated on the A-League website.
26 August 2019

Adelaide 3,175
Brisbane 6,806
Central Coast 2,262
Melbourne City 5,413
Melbourne Victory 17,778
Newcastle Jets 6,567
Perth Glory 5,901
Sydney FC 7,939
Wellington Phoenix 1,854
Western Sydney 12,639
Western United 1,044
TOTAL  71,378




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