Welcome back Mike!

Match winning knock from warner. Its been hard to score quickly all game and he did it on a 4th day pitch. Its why its useful to have an agressive batsmen or 2 in the side (much like its good to have 1 bowler with a lower strike rate and higher average) to turn draws into wins

I actually don't mind enforcing the 5 run penalty

Tim has pulled the pin. Too soon?

what was that about..I missed it?

Who said I'm not on there using a different name? Don't worry Baggers I don't reply to anything you personally write, I let the others do the work LOL.  I personally have no problem with them, and see quite a bit of respect from fellow posters. Love the movie forums better though I will admit.

Whirlpool is far more entertaining, but finding sites that offer reasonable arguments, from intelligent international cricket followers like Paddles, are difficult to come by. I see you highjacked Gameplanet forums, but really Baggers threatening a New Zealander to be removed from a New Zealand based forum site (that's what .co.nz stands for) is a bit rich don't you think? You are a foreign guest there.

Poor old Kiwis just can not absorb pressure. Latham unlucky but Blundell tried to smack the leather off the ball instead of playing himself in like in Melbourne. Almost ran himself out an over or two ago.

in the past mental strength has been a feature of touring kiwi teams!

To my knowledge it is a co Kiwi/Aussie forum. I was pissed off with Paddles. Didnt mean it. He was posting soon after so he knew I didnt too. Like you he posts his opinions down your throat until you have had it. On this occasion I did have it incorrect and acknowledged that fact. But who the hell knows that the ICC does not make up its own FTP. Its name is on the home page which you will find on its website. If member nations do in fact make the FTP then what good is even having the ICC. It is a toothless tiger to allow the big three to walk all over it.

As I see it if we want to move cricket  from the backlot into a world sport we need to begin promoting more Associate nations. I wanna see a lower tier introduced for these nations to play each other and for it to run on a promotion/relegation process. Over time these minnow nations will  be the standard needed to play the stronger nations. Probably a pipe dream but if Test cricket is to survive over the white ball game some serious thinking outside the box is required.

ripper delivery from lyon!

WP Cricket site is a den for trolls mate. There is a certain clique of veteran posters who think they are cricket gods. You post something they disapprove of and within ten minutes at least four of them have replied for their troll mate.. with totally unconstructive, critical, insubstantive rubbish. You try to counter them and mods delete you. 

another from lyon

he's gotten better in good conditions. Bodes well for india!

I thought Burns has too much of a gap between bat and pad with vertical shots? 

Like Wade and Paine. 

Your stats show they have had a fair bit of success though. 

Welcome back, Mike. Your input has been missed, mate. 

I thought that too, Baggers. 

At 4-33 who can argue against him? 

game management is arguably more important than technique and burns allows quick strike rotation so a bowler can't build up pressure
not sure if we have anyone better for the opening spot but maybe khawaja anyway

Good on Ross Taylor - now the leading run maker in NZ cricket! 

At a very good  average of 47 too! 

We need something to arrest the decline of red ball cricket. 

nice delivery from cummins bowls taylor
a dire 5-38

is it really declining? Are crowds/viewship/number of games per year down?

I guess we have lost Zimbabwe recently as a force but gained afghanistan

Taylor clean bowled by Cummins with a Jaffa! 

It swung in through the air, then seamed away off the pitch. 

Poor Ross. 

I was hoping he would go on. 

It is dying compared to 20/20. 

Nobody attends Shield games. 

thats sad, do you have crowd figures over the last few decades?

starc getting unplayable on this pitch

Yeh maximum 500 person per game. In other words poor. I honestly do not know why state red ball cricket is not better patronized. I attend every state game outside of the SCG. 

Not up to what was needed as the team's most senior player. Time to hang up the bat now he has the Kiwi batting record.

I am hoping these two can take us to stumps. Wanna watch some cricket tomorrow.. not denied.. as this is the last Test we will see until mid year and that is only a shortie two tester.

With Burns having scored Test 4 tons and a Test 90, weight of runs probably has him a deserved opening spot. 

I had not noticed good strike rotation, which helps a bowler build pressure. 

Plus we could be losing five day Tests altogether. 

No. 

It is only what I’ve read from others. 

Apologies to Paddles if he is reading this, because what I’m going to post is hypocritical. 

Whirlpool is a terrible cricket forum. Some knowledgeable posters post there occasionally, and are immediately attacked by gangs of Forum regulars with little knowledge. They think because enough people say 2plus 1 makes 4, they are correct. 

They even ignore axiomatic cricket stats supporting the qualities, of lack of, or loss of form, of specific players. 

They’d hate Mike and Paddles’ usually well researched stats. 

Some posters on Whirlpool, devoid of any serious cricket background, think they know more than Aus’s top cricket coaches. 

Rather than being ridiculed, they become emboldened because they are supported by more cricket cretins. 

I’ve seen the same happen a little on FTBL Forum, but nothing like Whirlpool. 

Knowledgeable people can sometimes shake their heads and avoid participating, which could result in other posters thirsting for knowledge denied the opportunity in a number of sports. 

its easier to face 3 balls in a row against world class bowling with bad technique than it is to face 6 with good technique

both burns and warner are good at quick singles when batting together

A bit harsh for Taylor, Baggers. 

He could have made more runs abroad than most current Aussies with a 47 average.