AUS v NZ 3rd Test


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Welcome back Mike!

Match winning knock from warner. Its been hard to score quickly all game and he did it on a 4th day pitch. Its why its useful to have an agressive batsmen or 2 in the side (much like its good to have 1 bowler with a lower strike rate and higher average) to turn draws into wins
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I actually don't mind enforcing the 5 run penalty
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Tim has pulled the pin. Too soon?
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grazorblade - 6 Jan 2020 1:53 PM
I actually don't mind enforcing the 5 run penalty

what was that about..I missed it?
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PS: Post on WP.. like to see what responses you get from the trolls to some of your over the top claims.

Who said I'm not on there using a different name? Don't worry Baggers I don't reply to anything you personally write, I let the others do the work LOL.  I personally have no problem with them, and see quite a bit of respect from fellow posters. Love the movie forums better though I will admit.

Whirlpool is far more entertaining, but finding sites that offer reasonable arguments, from intelligent international cricket followers like Paddles, are difficult to come by. I see you highjacked Gameplanet forums, but really Baggers threatening a New Zealander to be removed from a New Zealand based forum site (that's what .co.nz stands for) is a bit rich don't you think? You are a foreign guest there.
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Poor old Kiwis just can not absorb pressure. Latham unlucky but Blundell tried to smack the leather off the ball instead of playing himself in like in Melbourne. Almost ran himself out an over or two ago.
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baggygreenmania - 6 Jan 2020 2:33 PM
Poor old Kiwis just can not absorb pressure. Latham unlucky but Blundell tried to smack the leather off the ball instead of playing himself in like in Melbourne. Almost ran himself out an over or two ago.

in the past mental strength has been a feature of touring kiwi teams!
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MikeR - 6 Jan 2020 2:03 PM
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Who said I'm not on there using a different name? Don't worry Baggers I don't reply to anything you personally write, I let the others do the work LOL.  I personally have no problem with them, and see quite a bit of respect from fellow posters. Love the movie forums better though I will admit.

Whirlpool is far more entertaining, but finding sites that offer reasonable arguments, from intelligent international cricket followers like Paddles, are difficult to come by. I see you highjacked Gameplanet forums, but really Baggers threatening a New Zealander to be removed from a New Zealand based forum site (that's what .co.nz stands for) is a bit rich don't you think? You are a foreign guest there.

To my knowledge it is a co Kiwi/Aussie forum. I was pissed off with Paddles. Didnt mean it. He was posting soon after so he knew I didnt too. Like you he posts his opinions down your throat until you have had it. On this occasion I did have it incorrect and acknowledged that fact. But who the hell knows that the ICC does not make up its own FTP. Its name is on the home page which you will find on its website. If member nations do in fact make the FTP then what good is even having the ICC. It is a toothless tiger to allow the big three to walk all over it.

As I see it if we want to move cricket  from the backlot into a world sport we need to begin promoting more Associate nations. I wanna see a lower tier introduced for these nations to play each other and for it to run on a promotion/relegation process. Over time these minnow nations will  be the standard needed to play the stronger nations. Probably a pipe dream but if Test cricket is to survive over the white ball game some serious thinking outside the box is required.
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ripper delivery from lyon!
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baggygreenmania - 6 Jan 2020 2:45 PM
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To my knowledge it is a co Kiwi/Aussie forum. I was pissed off with Paddles. Didnt mean it. He was posting soon after so he knew I didnt too. Like you he posts his opinions down your throat until you have had it. On this occasion I did have it incorrect and acknowledged that fact. But who the hell knows that the ICC does not make up its own FTP. Its name is on the home page which you will find on its website. If member nations do in fact make the FTP then what good is even having the ICC. As I see it there needs to be more uniformity.. a more level playing field for the lesser Test nations to play the stronger ones more than currently. There needs to be greater promotion into Test cricket of the Associate nations. We havta grow cricket into a world sport..

WP Cricket site is a den for trolls mate. There is a certain clique of veteran posters who think they are cricket gods. You post something they disapprove of and within ten minutes at least four of them have replied for their troll mate.. with totally unconstructive, critical, insubstantive rubbish. You try to counter them and mods delete you. 
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another from lyon

he's gotten better in good conditions. Bodes well for india!
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MikeR - 6 Jan 2020 11:28 AM
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Not at all DC, here is the list of opening partnerships in the history of the game, that played 10 or more innings together. 215 in total

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=fow_average;partnership_wicketmax1=1;partnership_wicketval1=partnership_wicket;qualmin1=10;qualval1=fow_innings;spanmax2=6+jan+2020;spanmin2=01+jan+1880;spanval2=span;template=results;type=fow

Notice that burns and Warner have currently jumped ahead of Hayden and Langer, (probably will change after this innings is completed), better than Slater and Taylor, Better than Greenidge and Haynes (and that won't change after this innings is complete).

More recent in the last 20 years?

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=fow_average;partnership_wicketmax1=1;partnership_wicketval1=partnership_wicket;qualmin1=10;qualval1=fow_innings;spanmax2=6+jan+2020;spanmin2=01+jan+2000;spanval2=span;template=results;type=fow

Burns and Warner partnership is one of the best! 7 century partnerships now.

Not bad for an opener who has all these so-called technical batting problems, or maybe someone is just talking through his proverbial.

I thought Burns has too much of a gap between bat and pad with vertical shots? 

Like Wade and Paine. 

Your stats show they have had a fair bit of success though. 

Welcome back, Mike. Your input has been missed, mate. 
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baggygreenmania - 6 Jan 2020 1:57 PM
Tim has pulled the pin. Too soon?

I thought that too, Baggers. 

At 4-33 who can argue against him? 
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Decentric - 6 Jan 2020 3:38 PM
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I thought Burns has too much of a gap between bat and pad with vertical shots? 

Like Wade and Paine. 

Your stats show they have had a fair bit of success though. 

Welcome back, Mike. Your input has been missed, mate. 

game management is arguably more important than technique and burns allows quick strike rotation so a bowler can't build up pressure
not sure if we have anyone better for the opening spot but maybe khawaja anyway
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Good on Ross Taylor - now the leading run maker in NZ cricket! 

At a very good  average of 47 too! 
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baggygreenmania - 6 Jan 2020 2:45 PM
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To my knowledge it is a co Kiwi/Aussie forum. I was pissed off with Paddles. Didnt mean it. He was posting soon after so he knew I didnt too. Like you he posts his opinions down your throat until you have had it. On this occasion I did have it incorrect and acknowledged that fact. But who the hell knows that the ICC does not make up its own FTP. Its name is on the home page which you will find on its website. If member nations do in fact make the FTP then what good is even having the ICC. It is a toothless tiger to allow the big three to walk all over it.

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We need something to arrest the decline of red ball cricket. 
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nice delivery from cummins bowls taylor
a dire 5-38
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Decentric - 6 Jan 2020 3:48 PM
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We need something to arrest the decline of red ball cricket. 

is it really declining? Are crowds/viewship/number of games per year down?

I guess we have lost Zimbabwe recently as a force but gained afghanistan
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Taylor clean bowled by Cummins with a Jaffa! 

It swung in through the air, then seamed away off the pitch. 

Poor Ross. 

I was hoping he would go on. 



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grazorblade - 6 Jan 2020 3:50 PM
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is it really declining? Are crowds/viewship/number of games per year down?

I guess we have lost Zimbabwe recently as a force but gained afghanistan

It is dying compared to 20/20. 

Nobody attends Shield games. 
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Decentric - 6 Jan 2020 3:54 PM
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It is dying compared to 20/20. 

Nobody attends Shield games. 

thats sad, do you have crowd figures over the last few decades?
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starc getting unplayable on this pitch
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grazorblade - 6 Jan 2020 3:58 PM
Decentric - 6 Jan 2020 3:54 PM

thats sad, do you have crowd figures over the last few decades?

Yeh maximum 500 person per game. In other words poor. I honestly do not know why state red ball cricket is not better patronized. I attend every state game outside of the SCG. 
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Decentric - 6 Jan 2020 3:52 PM
Taylor clean bowled by Cummins with a Jaffa! 

It swung in through the air, then seamed away off the pitch. 

Poor Ross. 

I was hoping he would go on. 



Not up to what was needed as the team's most senior player. Time to hang up the bat now he has the Kiwi batting record.

I am hoping these two can take us to stumps. Wanna watch some cricket tomorrow.. not denied.. as this is the last Test we will see until mid year and that is only a shortie two tester.
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grazorblade - 6 Jan 2020 3:42 PM
Decentric - 6 Jan 2020 3:38 PM

game management is arguably more important than technique and burns allows quick strike rotation so a bowler can't build up pressure
not sure if we have anyone better for the opening spot but maybe khawaja anyway

With Burns having scored Test 4 tons and a Test 90, weight of runs probably has him a deserved opening spot. 

I had not noticed good strike rotation, which helps a bowler build pressure. 
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baggygreenmania - 6 Jan 2020 4:44 PM
Decentric - 6 Jan 2020 3:52 PM

Not up to what was needed as the team's most senior player. Time to hang up the bat. 

I am hoping these two can take us to stumps. Wanna watch some cricket tomorrow.. not denied.. as this is the last Test we will see until mid year and that is only a shortie two tester.

Plus we could be losing five day Tests altogether. 
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grazorblade - 6 Jan 2020 3:58 PM
Decentric - 6 Jan 2020 3:54 PM

thats sad, do you have crowd figures over the last few decades?

No. 

It is only what I’ve read from others. 
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Who said I'm not on there using a different name? Don't worry Baggers I don't reply to anything you personally write, I let the others do the work LOL.  I personally have no problem with them, and see quite a bit of respect from fellow posters. Love the movie forums better though I will admit.

Whirlpool is far more entertaining, but finding sites that offer reasonable arguments, from intelligent international cricket followers like Paddles, are difficult to come by. .

Apologies to Paddles if he is reading this, because what I’m going to post is hypocritical. 

Whirlpool is a terrible cricket forum. Some knowledgeable posters post there occasionally, and are immediately attacked by gangs of Forum regulars with little knowledge. They think because enough people say 2plus 1 makes 4, they are correct. 

They even ignore axiomatic cricket stats supporting the qualities, of lack of, or loss of form, of specific players. 

They’d hate Mike and Paddles’ usually well researched stats. 

Some posters on Whirlpool, devoid of any serious cricket background, think they know more than Aus’s top cricket coaches. 

Rather than being ridiculed, they become emboldened because they are supported by more cricket cretins. 

I’ve seen the same happen a little on FTBL Forum, but nothing like Whirlpool. 

Knowledgeable people can sometimes shake their heads and avoid participating, which could result in other posters thirsting for knowledge denied the opportunity in a number of sports. 
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Decentric - 6 Jan 2020 4:59 PM
grazorblade - 6 Jan 2020 3:42 PM

With Burns having scored Test 4 tons and a Test 90, weight of runs probably has him a deserved opening spot. 

I had not noticed good strike rotation, which helps a bowler build pressure. 

its easier to face 3 balls in a row against world class bowling with bad technique than it is to face 6 with good technique

both burns and warner are good at quick singles when batting together
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baggygreenmania - 6 Jan 2020 4:44 PM
Decentric - 6 Jan 2020 3:52 PM

Not up to what was needed as the team's most senior player. Time to hang up the bat. 



A bit harsh for Taylor, Baggers. 

He could have made more runs abroad than most current Aussies with a 47 average. 
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