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hounddog - 15 Jan 2020 7:54 PM
Marki - 15 Jan 2020 7:48 PM

Sound like MTM FTTN "node lotto" to me,,,

FTTN was the LNP's way of introducing good or bad luck into the NBN...... the cable mess is not much better...

StarLink might obsolete the NBN, unless they get proactive about upgrades to sort out the mess.

I get it now...

LMFAO

Ok, who’s next?



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Marki - what brand+model modem for internode? 
If you're trying to use a Telstra modem, it'll be locked to all their settings.

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Marki - 15 Jan 2020 7:56 PM
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I never could get into the Simpsons but I admit, that was funny!

It’s no family guy, but in its time was the benchmark show for social commentary and  things we’re not allowed to say...
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hounddog - 15 Jan 2020 7:57 PM
Villi - 15 Jan 2020 7:13 PM

Surely Dman's company can throw in a TPA for 750K .... he knows the boss man's signature... :)

MTM LNP NTTB TPA...

WTF???.., 
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dman2018 - 15 Jan 2020 8:08 PM

MTM LNP NTTB TPA...

WTF???.., 

It means - have you tried switching it off & on again...

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BloodyNora - 15 Jan 2020 8:11 PM
dman2018 - 15 Jan 2020 8:08 PM

It means - have you tried switching it off & on again...

Looks like we have an IT professional on the page... What’s the weather like in Delhi today???,,,
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dman2018 - 15 Jan 2020 8:17 PM
BloodyNora - 15 Jan 2020 8:11 PM

Looks like we have an IT professional on the page... What’s the weather like in Delhi today???,,,


BN..... your middle initial isn’t V?

For Virat

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Villi - 15 Jan 2020 8:30 PM


BN..... your middle initial isn’t V?

For Virat

Close...it's Virenda.

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Marki - 15 Jan 2020 7:48 PM

BN and Zef, 
In case you're wondering.... I still have my Telstra ADSL connected but for some reason just prior to New Years we lost ADSL and phone line connection so Telstra sent me their latest modem with built in backup 4G sim. I still dont get ADSL (some problem) but the 4G is active. I get 5Mb/s download at 7.30pm. At the same time, I run a check with my Vodafone 4G on my mobile and get similar 5-6Mb/s.

Yet when I run the test on the Internode NBN I get about 1-1.5Mb/s download. I'm on the 50Mb/s plan. 

Something is amiss.

Did they not run a speed check on your line and tell you what you could get - I bet they did because they do. And have you since called them?




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I’ve got an issue with a lawnmower...

Wont kick over. 

Rang the Victa helpline, someone that sounded like Dman suggested I use 98-VB not the 91 stuff

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Villi - 15 Jan 2020 8:42 PM
I’ve got an issue with a lawnmower...

Wont kick over. 

Rang the Victa helpline, someone that sounded like Dman suggested I use 98-VB not the 91 stuff

Yeah but you said “my wife (the lawn mower) doesn’t drink beer”...
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A little 5min sneak peak video of the Ashes test series just went up on Twitter. 

The behind the scenes of that Lords test.... very intense, got to watch more of it. 

The battle between Smith & Archer, Steve Waugh barking in the sheds, the hit to the head

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Villi - 15 Jan 2020 9:47 PM
A little 5min sneak peak video of the Ashes test series just went up on Twitter. 

The behind the scenes of that Lords test.... very intense, got to watch more of it. 

The battle between Smith & Archer, Steve Waugh barking in the sheds, the hit to the head

That was such an awesome spell of fast bowling...
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Zef - 15 Jan 2020 8:41 PM
Marki - 15 Jan 2020 7:48 PM

Did they not run a speed check on your line and tell you what you could get - I bet they did because they do. And have you since called them?




The guy wanted to get out as quick as he could.
I had to plead with him to check and confirm it was activated and worked. He reluctantly came back in and we checked it. It was 11am. I connected with my mobile (having disconnected mobile data) and standing next to it I got a download rate of 24 and upload of around 10.

Downstairs in my study, it was about 12-14 for download, but in the living room at 7.30pm and around afew other rooms it was down to about 1.5. 

I know the distance from router affects the speed but this is beyond ridiculous given my 4G on both mobile and the backup on the Telstra modem can provide about 5Mb/s to just about the whole house and at any time....

Havent called them. Will do it tomorrow. 
Best I calm myself down before they get an earful.
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Marki - 15 Jan 2020 10:36 PM

The guy wanted to get out as quick as he could.
I had to plead with him to check and confirm it was activated and worked. He reluctantly came back in and we checked it. It was 11am. I connected with my mobile (having disconnected mobile data) and standing next to it I got a download rate of 24 and upload of around 10.

Downstairs in my study, it was about 12-14 for download, but in the living room at 7.30pm and around afew other rooms it was down to about 1.5. 

I know the distance from router affects the speed but this is beyond ridiculous given my 4G on both mobile and the backup on the Telstra modem can provide about 5Mb/s to just about the whole house and at any time....

Havent called them. Will do it tomorrow. 
Best I calm myself down before they get an earful.

That's all WIFI related. 
I'll ask again, what brand/model modem/router are you using? 
Some basic modem/routers are fine for just connecting a PC to the wall using a cable, but some are crap if you activate the built-in WIFI to access the net (unless you're right next to it). Some models can get the signal through walls, obstacles & further distances much better than others.
If you're in a multi-story abode, you'll need a stronger model than the basic ones to get the WIFI up to speed.
None of the modem/routers any ISP offer are ever good for WIFI. It's why you have to research which ISP lets you bring your own modem & avoid ISP's that force you to use their crappy modems, especially when they lock you into a long term contract. Internode allow you to buy a better one, so you'll be fine. 

I bought another modem/router earlier this month. My reason wasn't WIFI, it was to get one with a Broadcom chipset which holds the line better than non-Broadcom based modems. Download speed went up about 20%, upload speed up about 30%. Enough to make a difference.
Now to the WIFI part. Basic models have approx. 300MB p/s on the 2.4Ghz band & approx. 1300MB p/s on the 5Ghz band. 
The new one I bought does 600MB p/s on the 2.4Ghz band & 2167MB p/s on the 5Ghz band, it also has 4 large external antennas. There's other models above this one too, but that's when you start ending up with huge looking beasts with 8 antennas etc. I rarely use WIFI, so that's why I settled for one being more mid-to-higher end. If I did need WIFI, people staying, whatever, this thing would do the job well enough. A basic model wouldn't cover this house. If I relied on WIFI daily for multiple rooms, I'd buy one of those bigger monstrosities to be done with it.





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BloodyNora - 16 Jan 2020 6:32 AM
Marki - 15 Jan 2020 10:36 PM

That's all WIFI related. 
I'll ask again, what brand/model modem/router are you using? 
Some basic modem/routers are fine for just connecting a PC to the wall using a cable, but some are crap if you activate the built-in WIFI to access the net (unless you're right next to it). Some models can get the signal through walls, obstacles & further distances much better than others.
If you're in a multi-story abode, you'll need a stronger model than the basic ones to get the WIFI up to speed.
None of the modem/routers any ISP offer are ever good for WIFI. It's why you have to research which ISP lets you bring your own modem & avoid ISP's that force you to use their crappy modems, especially when they lock you into a long term contract. Internode allow you to buy a better one, so you'll be fine. 

I bought another modem/router earlier this month. My reason wasn't WIFI, it was to get one with a Broadcom chipset which holds the line better than non-Broadcom based modems. Download speed went up about 20%, upload speed up about 30%. Enough to make a difference.
Now to the WIFI part. Basic models have approx. 300MB p/s on the 2.4Ghz band & approx. 1300MB p/s on the 5Ghz band. 
The new one I bought does 600MB p/s on the 2.4Ghz band & 2167MB p/s on the 5Ghz band, it also has 4 large external antennas. There's other models above this one too, but that's when you start ending up with huge looking beasts with 8 antennas etc. I rarely use WIFI, so that's why I settled for one being more mid-to-higher end. If I did need WIFI, people staying, whatever, this thing would do the job well enough. A basic model wouldn't cover this house. If I relied on WIFI daily for multiple rooms, I'd buy one of those bigger monstrosities to be done with it.





I'll check the model number and let you know...
I see what you mean with the hardware.
My gripe is that I sign up for a plan that claims X, but get Y. And sounds like the response is going to be "you are achieving X if you plug a cable in, but not if you're 5m away" 

This whole process of NBN install is bad.
I wasnt even made aware that a technician (some arrogant comms sparky) would be making decisions as to where the modem/router would go. After all the myriad of pamphlets and warning letters that I had to get NBN otherwise I risk losing internet and phone, not 1 if them gave an indication that I should think about which bloody room on the house it should be based in.

The tech guy of course picked a room easiest for him. When quizzed about whether it will work everywhere, the response was "yeah it will be fine"

All they had to do is advise me the process.
They couldnt even do that.
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Marki - 16 Jan 2020 6:43 AM
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I'll check the model number and let you know...
I see what you mean with the hardware.
My gripe is that I sign up for a plan that claims X, but get Y. And sounds like the response is going to be "you are achieving X if you plug a cable in, but not if you're 5m away" 

This whole process of NBN install is bad.
I wasnt even made aware that a technician (some arrogant comms sparky) would be making decisions as to where the modem/router would go. After all the myriad of pamphlets and warning letters that I had to get NBN otherwise I risk losing internet and phone, not 1 if them gave an indication that I should think about which bloody room on the house it should be based in.

The tech guy of course picked a room easiest for him. When quizzed about whether it will work everywhere, the response was "yeah it will be fine"

All they had to do is advise me the process.
They couldnt even do that.

Just checked it.
Tp-link with the 300 + 1300 on the 2 frequencies you noted.
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Marki - 16 Jan 2020 6:43 AM

I'll check the model number and let you know...
I see what you mean with the hardware.
My gripe is that I sign up for a plan that claims X, but get Y. And sounds like the response is going to be "you are achieving X if you plug a cable in, but not if you're 5m away" 

This whole process of NBN install is bad.
I wasnt even made aware that a technician (some arrogant comms sparky) would be making decisions as to where the modem/router would go. After all the myriad of pamphlets and warning letters that I had to get NBN otherwise I risk losing internet and phone, not 1 if them gave an indication that I should think about which bloody room on the house it should be based in.

The tech guy of course picked a room easiest for him. When quizzed about whether it will work everywhere, the response was "yeah it will be fine"

All they had to do is advise me the process.
They couldnt even do that.

That's the NBN for you. Half the people that get on it go through at least a month of hell before they get things close to how they want or expected it to be, which is rarely as fast as they'd hoped, but if you're getting 24 download, that's good enough for a 50 plan. It's the WIFI part of your router that isn't pushing a good speed around your building.
A LOT of people learn the WIFI lesson the hard way, often too late, after they were told by some schnapperhead "you'll be fine" with a basic/budget modem/router that the ISP provides.
The problem with the majority of ISP's is they re-write the actual firmware in the modems with their own settings which means 2 things - their modem is locked to that ISP, can't be used with any other ISP & secondly, you can't buy a better modem/router because the ISP refuses to give the settings, they're all hidden & locked in the firmware. 
Well done to internode for making the settings available so people with needs for better WIFI or whatever else can buy the best hardware available & use it, instead of being forced to use some rubbish obsolete modem with weak WIFI courtesy of some greedy inconsiderate ISP that wont allow you to buy one elsewhere or refuses to sell you a better model.

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Marki - 16 Jan 2020 6:50 AM

Just checked it.
Tp-link with the 300 + 1300 on the 2 frequencies you noted.

I suspected as much. 

Was it this white one on the left? : https://www.internode.on.net/residential/broadband/nbn/hardware/

For starters I can't see any external WIFI antennas...

Nothing wrong with TP-Link brand, but they have better models than that.
The new one I bought is TP-Link vr2800. Look at all that WIFI sticking out, 4 antennas better than none :
https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/tp-link-ac2800-mu-mimo-wireless-modem-router-vr2800-tpmdvr2800

If you wanted to go even more berserk with WIFI, check out D-Link Cobra...

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I’m with Telstra nbn & 100% A1 I’m very happy & also my mobile Telstra best for mobile 
if you need wi fi  help there’s a gadget call 
wi fi repeater & it boosts the wi fi speed by 300 bits on e bay 
you can get one for around $18 delieved  
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& his dad will help hi. As a manager prfff greedy kaylin 
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tony v_1 - 16 Jan 2020 7:30 AM
I’m with Telstra nbn & 100% A1 I’m very happy & also my mobile Telstra best for mobile 
if you need wi fi  help there’s a gadget call 
wi fi repeater & it boosts the wi fi speed by 300 bits on e bay 
you can get one for around $18 delieved  

I'm with Telstra for mobile too. The only provider that offers pay as you go pre-paid without locking you into long term contracts (that I'm aware of).

They're not so good for NBN though. They're one of the ISP's that force you to use their own crappy modems. For anyone that wants better WIFI, you're stuffed. Anyone that wanted the best WIFI, such as that D-Link Cobra, could only use it without phones because of the way Telstra push their own crappy modems with re-written hidden firmware & they wont tell you their secret settings for setting up your phones with any other products. Some people might conclude they're happy to make do with mobile phones, don't want landlines or Voip phones, but for me it's a matter of principle, I'd rather the option to use what I wanted without their greedy way of going about it.

Another point, when you consider their basic modem/routers only put out 300+1300 for WIFI (AC1600 is the term), those extenders only add another 300, taking it to 1900, so it's still slow. The D-Link Cobra is 5300 out of the box. Big speed difference. Mine is 2800, but WIFI isn't a priority, it's just there if needed.

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Love kaylin pongs he is his on man he just sacked his manager & is said his wants 1 mill a season on his next deal 
& his dad will help hi. As a manager prfff greedy kaylin 

He'll look great in Roosters or South's colours...
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I'm also with Telstra. I have FTTN, my residence is apparently at the end of the copper and I co share with another resident. My NBN is absolute rubbish and no other ISP can give me any better service. The NBN rollout that was altered by the LNP is an absolute abortion of a system and Tony Abbott and Malcolm Turnbull both need their nuts kicked in for what they did.
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ODF - 16 Jan 2020 8:22 AM
I'm also with Telstra. I have FTTN, my residence is apparently at the end of the copper and I co share with another resident. My NBN is absolute rubbish and no other ISP can give me any better service. The NBN rollout that was altered by the LNP is an absolute abortion of a system and Tony Abbott and Malcolm Turnbull both need their nuts kicked in for what they did.

Also, Rupert wanted Foxtel protected from competitors such as Netflix & other streaming services, which went hand in hand with the LNP wanting favorable media coverage to stay in power at the time, compared to the unfavorable alternative coverage & losing power...beyond frustrating for millions of people.

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To be fair to the NBN guy, he's only payed to go to the first point of access, that's his job. If you want it wired through walls and cavities to your preferred room - that's your job, You pay for someone to come out and do that, like I did (Jim's Antennas - yes THAT Jim of lawnmower fame, he does f***in' everything now).

You know Marki, you got to do some buyers research yourself. You can get it hard-wired through to whatever room(s) in the house as you want, but that's your responsibility. And as Nora pointed out you can get yourself an appropriate modem, and that's your responsibility too (and get one with antennas and plenty of them if you want wi-fi). And another tip, when you buy one make sure you tell the salesman if you're on FTTP OR FTTN because they're different modems.

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And to clarify, the bloke that came out to your house was an NBN bloke, not a Internode bloke.

And once it was all wired up, Internode can run a speed test and tell you what you can get. And I bet you can get as good as anyone on FTTN and better than your 4G when you get yourself a modem that wasn't made in the 90's.
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tony v_1 - 16 Jan 2020 7:30 AM
I’m with Telstra nbn & 100% A1 I’m very happy & also my mobile Telstra best for mobile 
if you need wi fi  help there’s a gadget call 
wi fi repeater & it boosts the wi fi speed by 300 bits on e bay 
you can get one for around $18 delieved  

Now...if they could only improve their spell check!

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I should also add there is a workaround for people stuck on long term contracts with Telstra, iinet etc that want better WIFI than they can get from their ISP's weak modems. All these basic modem/routers have one socket to plug into the wall to the NBN (usually RJ11 cable) & 4 sockets to plug in your gear (usually RJ45 cables). Your gear could include anything from one or more desktop PC's, laptops, TV's, streaming boxes from Foxtel or wherever, game consoles, fancy alarm /surveillance systems, medical equipment etc. But, you're limited to a maximum of 4. So the workaround is buying that fancy WIFI router but it would take up 1 of your 4 sockets on your weak ISP modem & it also means having 2 physical units & 2 power supplies instead of just one which is obviously a more rational way of doing it with Internode which also keeps your 4th socket available. There are modem/routers available with more than 4 sockets, but they're useless with Telstra etc because they wont give you the settings to use them, which adds to the point of this post. Also those basic modems only have a slow processor in them, so the more gear you plug in, the more they slow down. The newer models have faster dual or quad processors with additional co-processors to control the WIFI & modem functions separately, so basically more can happen at once without slow downs.
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