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Bunch of Hacks - 20 Jan 2020 6:49 PM
Is metcalfe a 6, 8 or a 10???



IMO his best position is as an 8 or second 10. Mel city play 2 x 8/10’s and a sitting 6 and he has been excellent. Arnold is playing a 4 2 4 where the  mids are two sitting 6’s and the wingers drop in behind the 9’s in attack as defacto 10’s and this is creating a 4 222 ala Sydney FC. This negates the role of box to box 8’s. having said that I believe he easily has the skill sets to play one of the the twin sitting 6 in Arnold’s system. Get him on over Duncan any day. This would stop the disposition and poor distribution in the mid field that we have seen in the past two games. I also think the 4222 is far too narrow and doesn’t draw out oppo centre backs and give us any width ie space in the final third. 
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Bunch of Hacks - 20 Jan 2020 4:00 PM
Weiry - 20 Jan 2020 11:12 AM

i think Uzkekistans best teams (bundyonkor and the other forgot the name) pay their players very very handsomely but being in an exotic and faraway part of the world they dont atrract many foreign players so all the best uzbek players end up at these 2 clubs and dont really push themselves further.

Pakhtakor. They were right up there with the big Russian teams in the Soviet league back in the day until an air crash tragedy in the 70s.

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fanoffootball - 20 Jan 2020 9:07 PM
Bunch of Hacks - 20 Jan 2020 6:49 PM

IMO his best position is as an 8 or second 10. Mel city play 2 x 8/10’s and a sitting 6 and he has been excellent. Arnold is playing a 4 2 4 where the  mids are two sitting 6’s and the wingers drop in behind the 9’s in attack as defacto 10’s and this is creating a 4 222 ala Sydney FC. This negates the role of box to box 8’s. having said that I believe he easily has the skill sets to play one of the the twin sitting 6 in Arnold’s system. Get him on over Duncan any day. This would stop the disposition and poor distribution in the mid field that we have seen in the past two games. I also think the 4222 is far too narrow and doesn’t draw out oppo centre backs and give us any width ie space in the final third. 

thanks, although a decond 10?! i believe you mean hes an 8 then in a 433 system! no such thing as 2 10's that is unless you are playing a 343 and use narrow wingers. 
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so when are the we getting their kit updates?
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Bunch of Hacks - 20 Jan 2020 10:43 PM
fanoffootball - 20 Jan 2020 9:07 PM

thanks, although a decond 10?! i believe you mean hes an 8 then in a 433 system! no such thing as 2 10's that is unless you are playing a 343 and use narrow wingers. 

Yes there is. In the Arnieball system that Corica and Talay have been playing this season both deploy two wider 10s. 
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Bunch of Hacks - 20 Jan 2020 10:43 PM
fanoffootball - 20 Jan 2020 9:07 PM

thanks, although a decond 10?! i believe you mean hes an 8 then in a 433 system! no such thing as 2 10's that is unless you are playing a 343 and use narrow wingers. 

That’s why I said 2 x 8’s at the start. But he and Adrian Luna share the role occasionally is what I mean. He is not a dedicated solo 10 really. From stuff I have read the 10 is dying spot and is being replaced by more 8’s. I think Liverpool have sometimes a flat set of three 8’s. anyway Metcalfe is wasted on the pine in this u23 side. He is classy and has a good brain for the role. We are poorer team without him. 
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Bunch of Hacks - 20 Jan 2020 10:43 PM
fanoffootball - 20 Jan 2020 9:07 PM

thanks, although a decond 10?! i believe you mean hes an 8 then in a 433 system! no such thing as 2 10's that is unless you are playing a 343 and use narrow wingers. 

Also city play a 3 22 3 in attack sometimes with the left wing back dropping into midfield. 
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paladisious - 20 Jan 2020 9:16 PM
Bunch of Hacks - 20 Jan 2020 4:00 PM

Pakhtakor. They were right up there with the big Russian teams in the Soviet league back in the day until an air crash tragedy in the 70s.

thats the one!
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Ryan Strain is apparently going to be eligible for Australia by the time of the Olympics. Big boost for Australia in probably their weakest position. 
That leaves the strongest Olympics side excluding overage players looking probably like this.  
Glover
Strain, Deng, Souttar, Gersbach
Baccus
Genreau, McGree
Piscopo, Toure, Arzani

Pretty good side and if you add a couple of overage players it looks really good. 
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sportaddict - 21 Jan 2020 8:42 PM
Ryan Strain is apparently going to be eligible for Australia by the time of the Olympics. Big boost for Australia in probably their weakest position. 
That leaves the strongest Olympics side excluding overage players looking probably like this.  
Glover
Strain, Deng, Souttar, Gersbach
Baccus
Genreau, McGree
Piscopo, Toure, Arzani

Pretty good side and if you add a couple of overage players it looks really good. 

He's better than Atkinson, Lesiotis, Cleur and Deng at RB? 

I havent seen him play at all
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Wonder if Robertson will get picked
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Bunch of Hacks - 21 Jan 2020 10:18 PM
sportaddict - 21 Jan 2020 8:42 PM

He's better than Atkinson, Lesiotis, Cleur and Deng at RB? 

I havent seen him play at all

Atkinson can’t be picked, although I think Atkinson is better. Cleur is a one dimensional defensive fullback which doesn’t really suit the system, and Deng should probably play CB. I like Lesiotis a lot, and he’s been good at RB, but he’s a far far better central midfielder than a fullback. 
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Anyone got the stream? Is not on Foxtel.

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UpRoar - 22 Jan 2020 12:13 AM
Anyone got the stream? Is not on Foxtel.

You’re 24 hours too early
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Keeper66 - 22 Jan 2020 12:18 AM
UpRoar - 22 Jan 2020 12:13 AM

You’re 24 hours too early

Hahaha. thanks, just arrived from o'seas, still kinda disoriented.


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sportaddict - 21 Jan 2020 8:42 PM
Ryan Strain is apparently going to be eligible for Australia by the time of the Olympics. Big boost for Australia in probably their weakest position. 
That leaves the strongest Olympics side excluding overage players looking probably like this.  
Glover
Strain, Deng, Souttar, Gersbach
Baccus
Genreau, McGree
Piscopo, Toure, Arzani

Pretty good side and if you add a couple of overage players it looks really good. 

That's really solid. I'm not a baccus fan, so would love to see an overage 6 come in, but I'm a bit stuck for options assuming you're gonna leave our best players where they are.

I'd also think another CB should be overage to beef it out a bit, and even a RB since Strain is still pretty green (I do rate him pretty highly though)
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Bunch of Hacks - 21 Jan 2020 10:18 PM
sportaddict - 21 Jan 2020 8:42 PM

He's better than Atkinson, Lesiotis, Cleur and Deng at RB? 

I havent seen him play at all

Yeah I'd say so. 
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dunno if i can stay up for this match if i miss it i can watch final or 3rd place playoff which are bigger matches 
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Melbcityguy - 22 Jan 2020 2:45 PM
dunno if i can stay up for this match if i miss it i can watch final or 3rd place playoff which are bigger matches 

Well, this is a pretty big match nonetheless. Hopefully, it's the one that shuts up all the Arnie-haters. 
I mean.. I get some of the gripes against him. But a win in the morning, to me, means everything everyone says against him is invalid until he starts losing some WCQ.
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NicCarBel - 22 Jan 2020 5:49 PM
Melbcityguy - 22 Jan 2020 2:45 PM

Well, this is a pretty big match nonetheless. Hopefully, it's the one that shuts up all the Arnie-haters. 
I mean.. I get some of the gripes against him. But a win in the morning, to me, means everything everyone says against him is invalid until he starts losing some WCQ.

Tbf he had a pretty bad Asian Cup. Is that forgotten already?
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The other semi final is on now - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqDlCYV4NVU
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NicCarBel - 22 Jan 2020 5:49 PM
Melbcityguy - 22 Jan 2020 2:45 PM

Well, this is a pretty big match nonetheless. Hopefully, it's the one that shuts up all the Arnie-haters. 
I mean.. I get some of the gripes against him. But a win in the morning, to me, means everything everyone says against him is invalid until he starts losing some WCQ.

Im sorry one or two results won't change it for me, he is just the exact opposite of Ange. A man who is God like in my eyes and what i want Australian football to be.
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Well, Uzbekistan like most AFC countries are squandering a lot of chances could easily be 2-0 up right now. 
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lebo_roo - 22 Jan 2020 9:41 PM
NicCarBel - 22 Jan 2020 5:49 PM

Im sorry one or two results won't change it for me, he is just the exact opposite of Ange. A man who is God like in my eyes and what i want Australian football to be.
You remember when he sat Mooy on the bench in our WCQ against syria?
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Pasquali - 22 Jan 2020 11:02 PM
lebo_roo - 22 Jan 2020 9:41 PM
You remember when he sat Mooy on the bench in our WCQ against syria?

Do you remember when Arnie left Djite and Burns out of Beijing or when he plays players like Simon. What's your point.
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lebo_roo - 22 Jan 2020 11:05 PM
Pasquali - 22 Jan 2020 11:02 PM

Do you remember when Arnie left Djite and Burns out of Beijing or when he plays players like Simon. What's your point.

I never compared Arnie to god though
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Saudi Arabia score in the 86th minute to book their place in the final and the Olympics. They could've won 2-0 but the goal was ruled out by VAR - Uzbek keeper up for corner and Saudi breakaway and score in an open net only for it to be ruled offside by VAR

Uzbekistan really should've scored a few. If we don't win tonight I would have much rather played the Saudis in the third place playoff.
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Hmm I wouldn't have started Toure or Buhagiar - For me Toure is an impact sub at the moment in my opinion although I don't think anyone else warrants a start.

How is Cleaur in the 11?? Benching Piscopo is questionable too although I don't get the 'hype' about him I would have had him ahead of Buhagiar and probably Italiano. 
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Weiry - 22 Jan 2020 11:21 PM
Hmm I wouldn't have started Toure or Buhagiar - For me Toure is an impact sub at the moment in my opinion although I don't think anyone else warrants a start.

How is Cleaur in the 11?? Benching Piscopo is questionable too although I don't get the 'hype' about him I would have had him ahead of Buhagiar and probably Italiano. 

It’s simply a fitness thing. The heat is sapping and these guys have played 4 games now in two weeks.. most would play 4 games in 5 weeks usually 
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