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MarkfromCroydon - 17 Feb 2020 2:10 PM
Was watching the Western United V Roar match on Kayo yesterday, but had to go out and pick up kids at halftime.
The match was not broadcast AT ALL on any radio station in Melbourne. I know, I checked every station (about 50 that I can get in the Eastern suburbs) in the car.

How do we expect anyone to care about this league when it has zero promotion and marketing?

Its just gonna get worse, we wont even have a TV deal in 3 years.


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n0mates - 17 Feb 2020 3:58 PM
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Its just gonna get worse, we wont even have a TV deal in 3 years.

We probably won't have a TV deal - but we might have a streaming deal!

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Top 20 for yesterday's Fox ratings, cut off at 26k, no HAL, interesting that very little sport is actually making the top 20:

RankDescriptionChannel\Market(r) National STV
1LIVE: FIRE FIGHT AUSTRALIAFOX8138,000
2MAKE YOU LAUGH OUT LOUDFOX8105,000
3OUTSIDERSSky News Live67,000
4OUTSIDERSSky News Live66,000
5FRESH [V]ID: JUSTIN BIEBER FT. QUAVO[V]56,000
6LIVE: FIRE FIGHT AUSTRALIA PRE SHOWFOX855,000
7FIRE FIGHT AUSTRALIA[V]45,000
8THE TRIAL OF CHRISTINE KEELERBBC First41,000
9LIVE: NBA ALL-STAR SATURDAY NIGHTESPN39,000
10MIDSOMER MURDERSUKTV33,000
11LIVE: AFLW: ADELAIDE V ST KILDAFOX FOOTY33,000
12LIVE: AFLW: CARLTON V COLLINGWOODFOX FOOTY31,000
13PAUL MURRAY LIVESky News Live30,000
14YESTERDAYMovies Premiere30,000
15THE SIMPSONSFOX830,000
16MIXED HITS[V]29,000
17LIVE: AFLW: GEELONG V BRISBANEFOX FOOTY29,000
18SELLING HOUSES AUSTRALIALifestyle Channel29,000
19TEEN MOM: YOUNG & PREGNANTMTV28,000
20DEATH IN PARADISEBBC First26,000


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bettega - 17 Feb 2020 5:04 PM
Top 20 for yesterday's Fox ratings, cut off at 26k, no HAL, interesting that very little sport is actually making the top 20:

RankDescriptionChannel\Market(r) National STV
1LIVE: FIRE FIGHT AUSTRALIAFOX8138,000
2MAKE YOU LAUGH OUT LOUDFOX8105,000
3OUTSIDERSSky News Live67,000
4OUTSIDERSSky News Live66,000
5FRESH [V]ID: JUSTIN BIEBER FT. QUAVO[V]56,000
6LIVE: FIRE FIGHT AUSTRALIA PRE SHOWFOX855,000
7FIRE FIGHT AUSTRALIA[V]45,000
8THE TRIAL OF CHRISTINE KEELERBBC First41,000
9LIVE: NBA ALL-STAR SATURDAY NIGHTESPN39,000
10MIDSOMER MURDERSUKTV33,000
11LIVE: AFLW: ADELAIDE V ST KILDAFOX FOOTY33,000
12LIVE: AFLW: CARLTON V COLLINGWOODFOX FOOTY31,000
13PAUL MURRAY LIVESky News Live30,000
14YESTERDAYMovies Premiere30,000
15THE SIMPSONSFOX830,000
16MIXED HITS[V]29,000
17LIVE: AFLW: GEELONG V BRISBANEFOX FOOTY29,000
18SELLING HOUSES AUSTRALIALifestyle Channel29,000
19TEEN MOM: YOUNG & PREGNANTMTV28,000
20DEATH IN PARADISEBBC First26,000


very little televised sport on yesterday.
NBL was FTA, one HAL game on Fox. Left pretty much just AFLW and the nba
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bettega - 17 Feb 2020 5:04 PM
Top 20 for yesterday's Fox ratings, cut off at 26k, no HAL, interesting that very little sport is actually making the top 20:

RankDescriptionChannel\Market(r) National STV
1LIVE: FIRE FIGHT AUSTRALIAFOX8138,000
2MAKE YOU LAUGH OUT LOUDFOX8105,000
3OUTSIDERSSky News Live67,000
4OUTSIDERSSky News Live66,000
5FRESH [V]ID: JUSTIN BIEBER FT. QUAVO[V]56,000
6LIVE: FIRE FIGHT AUSTRALIA PRE SHOWFOX855,000
7FIRE FIGHT AUSTRALIA[V]45,000
8THE TRIAL OF CHRISTINE KEELERBBC First41,000
9LIVE: NBA ALL-STAR SATURDAY NIGHTESPN39,000
10MIDSOMER MURDERSUKTV33,000
11LIVE: AFLW: ADELAIDE V ST KILDAFOX FOOTY33,000
12LIVE: AFLW: CARLTON V COLLINGWOODFOX FOOTY31,000
13PAUL MURRAY LIVESky News Live30,000
14YESTERDAYMovies Premiere30,000
15THE SIMPSONSFOX830,000
16MIXED HITS[V]29,000
17LIVE: AFLW: GEELONG V BRISBANEFOX FOOTY29,000
18SELLING HOUSES AUSTRALIALifestyle Channel29,000
19TEEN MOM: YOUNG & PREGNANTMTV28,000
20DEATH IN PARADISEBBC First26,000


It was two days earlier when it was dominated by NRL.
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Those are some low ratings all round. Can anyone dig out what would be the number of viewers for a top 20 show same time 5 years ago? I'd imagine it would be much higher.
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Burztur - 18 Feb 2020 1:19 PM
Those are some low ratings all round. Can anyone dig out what would be the number of viewers for a top 20 show same time 5 years ago? I'd imagine it would be much higher.

INteresting question.
I went on the TV Tonight ratings website, and just flicked backwards until I landed on a similar time of year, which ended up being Saturday 25 February 2012.
Here are the results:

Rank

Description Channel\Market

(r) National STV

1

LIVE: SUPER RUGBY: WARATAHS V REDSFOX SPORTS 3

193,000

2

CRICKET: ICC CRICKET SHOWFOX SPORTS 2

166,000

3

LIVE: AFL: NAB CUP MELBOURNE V LIONSFOX FOOTY

147,000

4

LIVE: AFL: NAB CUP GOLD COAST V MELBFOX FOOTY

141,000

5

LIVE: CRICKET: ONE DAY SERIESFOX SPORTS 2

130,000

6

LIVE: AFL: NAB CUP LIONS V GOLD COASTFOX FOOTY

115,000

7

LIVE: CRICKET: ONE DAY SERIESFOX SPORTS 2

97,000

8

THE SIMPSONSFOX8

81,000

9

THE SIMPSONSFOX8

79,000

10

LIVE: SUPER RUGBY: CHIEFS V H’LANDERSFOX SPORTS 3

79,000

11

THE SIMPSONSFOX8

78,000

12

THE SIMPSONSFOX8

77,000

13

CRICKET: WORLD SERIES CLASSICSFOX SPORTS 2

71,000

14

LIVE: SUPER RUGBY: POST GAME SHOWFOX SPORTS 3

62,000

15

LIVE: FOOTBALL: A-LEAGUE PERTH V BRISFOX SPORTS 1

56,000

16

SKY NEWS NOWSKY NEWS

56,000

17

GOOD LUCK CHARLIEDisney Channel

55,000

18

THE SIMPSONSFOX8

55,000

19

WIZARDS OF WAVERLY PLACEDisney Channel

52,000

20

THE SIMPSONSFOX8

51,000


Worth noting:
a.  it's a higher cut-off than we normally see for this time of year
b.  check out the Super Rugby ratings - 193k!!
c.  even the Lions and Suns are getting decent ratings for a pre-season comp, which I doubt they would get these days.
d.  at no. 10 you have decent ratings for two non-Aust rugby teams, not sure they'd get that now.
e.  A-League in no. 15 with more than double the ratings what that game would get now.
f.  interest in The Simpsons has dropped off!

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https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2020/02/18/channel-seven/

Seven slumps as younger viewers desert TV for online
10:10pm, Feb 18, 2020

The fall from grace of the once-glamorous commercial television sector has continued with Seven West Media reporting a $67 million half-year loss on Tuesday.

Seven’s slump was driven by falls in advertising and write-downs of the value of its TV licence and cricket broadcasting contracts.

Its share price consequently fell 21.15 per cent to a record-low 20.05 cents.

The company said it expected similar conditions in the second half of the year.

But independent media analyst Peter Cox said things could get even worse for Seven.

“Nine’s Married at First Sight has been a success and it will capitalise on that this year as it takes time to see the benefits of a successful show. Meanwhile, Seven’s MKR [My Kitchen Rules] is an utter disaster,” Mr Cox said.

“The only hope for Seven now is the [AFL] football season and the Olympics, although people lose money on the Olympics.

“The tennis [now with Nine] did well but [Seven’s] cricket was not a huge success.”

Commercial televisions audiences have fallen significantly over time and that cuts the prices advertisers are prepared to pay for access to eyeballs.

In the December half, Seven saw its TV advertising revenue fall 4 per cent to $603.3 million.

That was better than the industry as a whole, with free-to-air (FTA) TV revenues falling 7 per cent and the ad market overall losing 8.5 per cent.

Seven also did better with overall revenues, gaining the largest industry share of 38.8 per cent.

However, that was a larger share of a declining audience that was not in an attractive demographic for advertisers.

“Along with declining revenues, the other scary thing is how old the audience is,” Mr Cox said.

“Free-to-air audiences are predominately over 50 and Foxtel’s Fire Aidconcert over the weekend’s audience was over 50 also.

“Look at who the performers were – Alice Cooper, John Farnham, Olivia Newton-John, Cold Chisel.”

Those older audiences “are the death knell for free to air and Foxtel,” because they are shrinking and advertisers don’t want to pay a lot for them.

Although FTA audiences are declining, there is strong growth in the broadcast video on demand [BVOD] sector.

Seven’s BVOD catchup service 7plus recorded a 33 per cent jump in usage and a 205 per cent revenue increase, but it only accounted for $11.9 million in earnings.

“It’s growing off a very low base,” an analyst said.

Seven is caught outside the growth area of streaming dominated by Netflix and Stan as well as offers from others including Foxtel and Amazon.

Managing director James Warburton would say only that SVOD [streaming] opportunities were “under review”.

The fragmenting of the television market is not necessarily a disaster for free-to-air television.

“Young people are turning away from free to air and increasingly consuming content on devices and watching on demand,” said Matt Nunn, managing director of media buyer Nunn Media.

“Clients’ budgets are what they are, so we’re seeing a diversification [of the ad spend]. But agencies still spend 43 per cent of their advertising budgets with television.

“Watching on demand might be 2 per cent or 20 per cent of the market for some shows, so it’s not a drastic change of form.

“There is still a big older audience out there that are couch potatoes and huge consumers of free-to-air TV.”

Those FTA catch-up services run ads that fund the industry.

But video streaming groups don’t run ads, living instead on subscriptions.


The climate is clearly changing and this is where Football could have an advantage down the track over other sports due to our perceived younger demographic. 

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MarkfromCroydon - 17 Feb 2020 2:10 PM
Was watching the Western United V Roar match on Kayo yesterday, but had to go out and pick up kids at halftime.
The match was not broadcast AT ALL on any radio station in Melbourne. I know, I checked every station (about 50 that I can get in the Eastern suburbs) in the car.

How do we expect anyone to care about this league when it has zero promotion and marketing?

It’s broadcast on ABC Radio. Every game (the commentary is quite good and way better than Fox imo) 

Which ABC station carries each game seems to vary but that is the nature of modern media 
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Super Rugby is still getting better ratings then the HAL and they have no TV deal next year.

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I'm going to call a spade a spade here and ask the question who really gives a toss about sport in this country apart from casual interest?  None of teh 20 somethings I know have any interest in sport at all and most of them played football into their teens, and in a champion side.  None of them watch the game at all now, despite growing up with it.

What streaming has done like never before is put sport head to head with innumerable other past time options.  Also, in the local context, we're not like Europe, where huge numbers of people have stuff all else to do for much of the year in their cities and God awful climates but watch football.

For what it's worth, for football to survive here we MUST switch to winter.  Summer football is a bad idea on so many levels now that to list them would be like shooting fish in a barrel.
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CS - 19 Feb 2020 3:11 PM
For what it's worth, for football to survive here we MUST switch to winter.  Summer football is a bad idea on so many levels now that to list them would be like shooting fish in a barrel.

I'm starting to see the merit of switching back to Winter.

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https://tvtonight.com.au/2020/02/wednesday-19-february-2020.html

no sport on last night you'd think the acl could crack the top 20 
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CS - 19 Feb 2020 3:11 PM
I'm going to call a spade a spade here and ask the question who really gives a toss about sport in this country apart from casual interest?  None of teh 20 somethings I know have any interest in sport at all and most of them played football into their teens, and in a champion side.  None of them watch the game at all now, despite growing up with it.
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I have to say, Im 38 and I fall into that category too.
I have very little interest in sport (generally) anymore.
I grew up watching basically any sport that was on if I was home on a weekend. From AFL to lawn bowls.

Now I get youtube on the tele and watch shows about guitars or whatever I feel like when I have the time.

I do still watch the A-League as much as I can but I used to watch all sports
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Davide82 - 20 Feb 2020 12:29 PM
CS - 19 Feb 2020 3:11 PM

I have to say, Im 38 and I fall into that category too.
I have very little interest in sport (generally) anymore.
I grew up watching basically any sport that was on if I was home on a weekend. From AFL to lawn bowls.

Now I get youtube on the tele and watch shows about guitars or whatever I feel like when I have the time.

I do still watch the A-League as much as I can but I used to watch all sports

And that comment “whatever I feel like” sums it up. Football (sports) have to create complementary content that’s not just the game or highlights but everything from tic-tok to YouTube and all platforms in between. It has to be content that hits some people, some of the time looking for “whatever I want”. It’s not easy but can be find. 
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Football needs to produce elite players and teams, the rest will take care of itself.

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CS - 19 Feb 2020 3:11 PM

Now I get youtube on the tele and watch shows about guitars or whatever I feel like when I have the time.

That Pedal Show?

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CS - 19 Feb 2020 3:11 PM
I'm going to call a spade a spade here and ask the question who really gives a toss about sport in this country apart from casual interest?  None of teh 20 somethings I know have any interest in sport at all and most of them played football into their teens, and in a champion side.  None of them watch the game at all now, despite growing up with it.

What streaming has done like never before is put sport head to head with innumerable other past time options.  Also, in the local context, we're not like Europe, where huge numbers of people have stuff all else to do for much of the year in their cities and God awful climates but watch football.

For what it's worth, for football to survive here we MUST switch to winter.  Summer football is a bad idea on so many levels now that to list them would be like shooting fish in a barrel.

You have a good point and its changed the way people buy and watch sport and what are the new metrics..

In olden times say the time of FTA... it was ratings.... in less olden times we had FTA & Subscription TV... ratings where still a major part of the sports life cycle...
What has changed is the audience and what they want... Fox could charge a small fortune and a person would watch many games ... these people were known as multi watchers and the NRL & AFL had many people who watched  many games..

Today people want access to something and choose what parts they watch... for Football we have overseas leagues, FFA Cup, International matches, and State leagues.
If I had say the top three European leagues plus J-League plus MLS, then added A-League, FFA Cup, State league competitions, and international matches and I controlled all of these I could see a massive product to a streaming company and argue for some FTA as well. If I had such a product many people would watch their preferred part and then look sometimes at the others.

The chief issue FFA & iHal have is they only control the A-League... 

FFA don't control the media deal for WWC & ACQ, nor do they control the various state bases leagues, and at this stage the envisioned second division.

IMO to make the media work work, FFA & iHal need to buy the rights from AFC if possible for the WCQ & ACQ, buy off the states their broadcast rights..

I am told by an Optus employee [very senior] one of the main reason Qptus did not bid for the A-League rights aside from the broadcasting issue was FFA could not guarantee Optus would get WCQ & ACQ and Optus were concerned Fox or a FTA would outbid them for these rights...

This is an actual problem that faced both old FFA & new FFA / iHal, ...

Streaming companies want a sport not bits of a sport, they don't care about any particular ratings ... they care about people wanting a sport and many people if the joining cost is low say $15 to $ 20 a month will buy it in big numbers... for Optus its not only the $15.00 its in many cases a phone and internet plan as well so the $ 15 becomes $ 90...

How we get back control of WCQ & ACQ is anyone"s guess... but losing those rights has been the single biggest hit to Footballs revenue in the last 7 years...  the compensation paid is a fraction of what the rights used to be sold for and a smaller fraction of what they could get for them today... AFC fund all Asian teams from this fund which is why so many smaller Asian nations can take part.

The bigger question today is how or what we take to the market ... IMO IHal is not enough... 

The thinking on the new media deal needs to understand that many buyers today want the availability to watch the parts they want.... this is a totally different mindset to the past when a person would watch many matches in their choosen sport.
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^ some very good points Midfielder

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That Pedal Show?

Ha ha yeah that's one of them for sure
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ICC Women’s T20 World Cup Gem
Australia v India 291,000 (Metro 174,000 Regional 117,000)
Supercars Adelaide 500 10Bold
73,000 (Metro)
Friday Sports TV Subscription
ICC Women’s T20 World Cup: Fox Cricket
Australia v India
Session 1: 121,000
Session 2: 193,000
Test Cricket Fox Cricket
New Zealand v India 79,000
Supercars Adelaide 500 Fox Sports
70,000
AFL Pre-season Marsh Series Fox Footy
Western Bulldogs v North Melbourne 64,000
AFLW Fox Footy
St Kilda v Melbourne 18,000
Super Rugby Fox Sports
Crusaders v Highlanders 30,000
A-League Fox Sports
Wellington v Western United 8,000
Wanderers v Adelaide United 25,000



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bluebird - 22 Feb 2020 11:35 AM
ICC Women’s T20 World Cup Gem
Australia v India 291,000 (Metro 174,000 Regional 117,000)
Supercars Adelaide 500 10Bold
73,000 (Metro)
Friday Sports TV Subscription
ICC Women’s T20 World Cup: Fox Cricket
Australia v India
Session 1: 121,000
Session 2: 193,000
Test Cricket Fox Cricket
New Zealand v India 79,000
Supercars Adelaide 500 Fox Sports
70,000
AFL Pre-season Marsh Series Fox Footy
Western Bulldogs v North Melbourne 64,000
AFLW Fox Footy
St Kilda v Melbourne 18,000
Super Rugby Fox Sports
Crusaders v Highlanders 30,000
A-League Fox Sports
Wellington v Western United 8,000
Wanderers v Adelaide United 25,000

Outrated AFLW!!! Huge winnnnn
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Fair to say all those ratings are turgid. Foxtel really seems to be in it's end days.

On the plus side, I finally got OPTUS Sport and it is so much better, the quality of the stream, the interface, the presentation and the price. Really hope Optus goes after A-league but doesn't overpay for NRL/AFL, so they can keep the price down and focus purely on Football.


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Those ratings are putrid, HAL will be lucky to get any money at all for a tv deal








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Eldar - 22 Feb 2020 1:15 PM
Fair to say all those ratings are turgid. Foxtel really seems to be in it's end days.

On the plus side, I finally got OPTUS Sport and it is so much better, the quality of the stream, the interface, the presentation and the price. Really hope Optus goes after A-league but doesn't overpay for NRL/AFL, so they can keep the price down and focus purely on Football.

The thing that I've learnt from this forum is that people no longer watch Fox, ABC, or attend sports at venues that aren't owned by the club

The A League is just very unlucky




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Saturday FTA sports TV

Rugby League All Stars game Nine/Gem
476,000 (Metro 315,000 Regional 161,000)

Supercars Championship Adelaide 500 10
Race 1: 387,000 (Metro 223,000 Regional 164,000)

Saturday Subscription sports TV

Supercars Championship Adelaide: Fox Sports
Race 1: 178,000

Rugby League All Stars: Fox League
Indigenous All Stars v Maori All Stars Men 158,000
Indigenous All Stars v Maori All Stars Women 45,000

AFLW: Fox Footy
Western Bulldogs v Carlton 28,000
Gold Coast v Brisbane 22,000
Fremantle v Collingwood 27,000

AFL Pre-season Marsh series: Fox Footy
Melbourne v Adelaide 48,000
Gold Coast v Geelong 62,000

ICC Women’s T20 World Cup: Fox Cricket
West Indies v Thailand 35,000
New Zealand v Sri Lanka 36,000

T20 South Africa v Australia: Fox Cricket
Game 1: 26,000

Super Rugby: Fox Sports
Chiefs v Brumbies 56,000
Reds v Sunwolves 49,000
Rebels v Sharks 39,000

A-League: Fox Sports
Perth v Brisbane 21,000
Newcastle v Melbourne Victory 28,000



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Sunday ratings

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Supercars - Adelaide - 222,000 (+273k Metro FTA)
(Supercars 14 of top 22 Fox programmes)
WCC - 55,000
Marsh Series - Bris v Port - 51,000
T20: RSA v Aus - 44,000
No AFLW/HAL or others in top 20.

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bettega - 24 Feb 2020 11:58 AM
Sunday ratings

sportsindustry@footyindustryAUSunday Fox Sport
Supercars - Adelaide - 222,000 (+273k Metro FTA)
(Supercars 14 of top 22 Fox programmes)
WCC - 55,000
Marsh Series - Bris v Port - 51,000
T20: RSA v Aus - 44,000
No AFLW/HAL or others in top 20.

looks like aflw is going the way of the bbl 

sydney vs ccm is not very exciting we can't expect matches like that to be rated well 
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Melbcityguy - 24 Feb 2020 1:05 PM
bettega - 24 Feb 2020 11:58 AM

looks like aflw is going the way of the bbl 

sydney vs ccm is not very exciting we can't expect matches like that to be rated well 

the top rating team in our biggest city ---- we can't expect it to rate well ??!!!

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Footballer - 24 Feb 2020 1:28 PM
Melbcityguy - 24 Feb 2020 1:05 PM

the top rating team in our biggest city ---- we can't expect it to rate well ??!!!

FMD

it's just not a exciting match the derby will rate better 
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