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General Ashnak wrote:Timmo wrote:General Ashnak wrote:ducky42 wrote:General Ashnak wrote:Hmm, just re read the ticketing info. There will still be general admission available in the Home End - this needs to stop. Disagree with you there, if anything the entire North End needs to be General Admission. You will find that the Supporter bay is always only half full because people just buy the general admission tickets. If we want large numbers behind the goals, we need to open it up to everyone. There are enough problems with people buying home support tickets and not partaking in active support so I don't see how that could be an issue. Sorry I didn't make myself clear, what I mean is I don't want there to be both Home End tickets and General Admission tickets. It should be either one or the other - my preference is for the Home End to be entirely reserved as active support and for the club to market it as active support - in other words if you are in the home End you are expecting to have people standing and all the other bits and pieces that go along with active support. Might as well find out how many seats are in the North end, give it to the Red army to market, promote and sell off then if we want that whole stand active support. Why not? Melbourne Heart are selling active support tickets/memberships for Yarraside stating that those seated in this area should be aware that it is very likely people will be standing around them. Something like this would be good!
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Tom AUFC
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General Ashnak wrote:Hmm, didn't even think of that... FNS are a must - the only way they could logically be stopped is if we had 14,000 members. Imagine that. I just jizzed at the prospect of that becoming a reality!
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General Ashnak
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Seems the prices I leaked yesterday are slightly different than the ones released by the club today: http://adelaideunited.com.au/default.aspx?s=membershipGoldAdult $293 Concession $254 Children (15 + under) $146 Family $731 BlueAdult $263 Concession $224 Children (15 + under) $117 Family $644 RedAdult $234 Concession $195 Children (15 + under) $88 Family $556
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You gun-jumper, you!
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General Ashnak
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AUFC Membership Committee Meeting Minutes wrote:AUFC Membership Committee Meeting - MINUTES
Monday 20 June 2011, 5.30pm, AUFC Boardroom
Present : AUFC - Matt Rossi; Membership Committee (MC) - Shaun Kastelijn, Samantha Moody, Stephen Daughtry, Shaun Brennan & Ron Pannell
Agenda Items
1. Welcome
2. Introductions
3. Format of meeting
4. Schedule of future meetings
5. Update of club news / events
6. Season Ticket / Membership
7. Open discussion / Questions
1. Welcome
• Matt welcomed all members of the committee, and congratulated them of their appointment
• Explained that the committee consists of 5 and not 3 members as originally planned, due to the high calibre of applicants. AUFC wanted to get a broad representation of the supporters
2. Introductions
• All members were introduce to each other
3. Format of Meetings
• After each meeting, the minutes of the previous meeting will be emailed to all MC members, plus those that applied but were not successful.
• An agenda will be generated for the next meeting based on the feedback gained by all involved, and by AUFC. The agenda will be distributed before each meeting.
4. Schedule of Meetings
• Initially, meetings will be held monthly. This can be revised as the year goes on should we need to increase or decrease the amount of meetings
• Matt to organise a time for the next meeting and email MC in the following week
5. Update of club news / events
• No trial games have been confirmed at this stage. AUFC will keep supporters informed as best as possible
• Season Launch in August
• New playing strip nearly finalised. Should be released within the next few weeks
o MC spoke about cost of new strip, and enquired if it would be cheaper than previous years. Matt explained that ultimately the decision for the price of the shirt was with Errea (who set the recommended retail price) and the retailers (who actually choose to follow the supplier’s RRP).
6. Season Tickets / Memberships
• Season tickets will go on sale 11 July
• A third category had been added to the seating options (Eastern Stand is now Blue)
• A new and separate membership option will be made available at a later time. The board are working through and finalising the details of what will be involved and the cost of this membership. The aim of the membership is get the supporters closer to the club. Details will be released once they are confirmed
7. Open discussion / Questions
• Supporter areas – more work needs to be done to help this to grow. Shaun B to meet with AUFC at another time to discuss further
• Suggested that an open letter to the members & supporters from the owners / board explaining that the club is cutting costs in order to remain competitive over the next 10 years. Be open and transparent and ask supporters to support the club during this time
• It was suggested to actively market the membership option with the season ticket. However this is not possible due to the fact that the details of the membership have not been finalised
• Visit more local clubs, and promote the visits more, with follow up stories. Hold more training sessions at clubs
• New ideas for Club Rebate concept
Next Meeting TBC I have published here as there would be those interested not in the email distribution list.
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General Ashnak
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Format seems good, I hope you have a prescribed length of meeting as it focuses the mind on the issues to hand.
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football.
- Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals
For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players.
On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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So anyways, Val just tweeted that Ryan McGowan will be training with the boys tomorrow. Whether that's just to keep his fitness up or more, we'll find out soon.
UPDATE: He's not going to be training with them anymore. LOL
Edited by RedsUnited: 26/6/2011 09:49:23 PM
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• A third category had been added to the seating options (Eastern Stand is now Blue)
• A new and separate membership option will be made available at a later time. The board are working through and finalising the details of what will be involved and the cost of this membership. The aim of the membership is get the supporters closer to the club. Details will be released once they are confirmed
Why seperate paid membership? Are any other HAl clubs doing this?
Sorry to be cynical but the club have stated they want to cut costs and likewise presumably increase revenue. What will the likely benefits of such a 'membership'? Would we really be getting a say in things? not likely I'd unfortunately have to suggest?
Overall not really impressed with the seasons ticekteing especially the "blue" category. More money for the same area I sat in last season for what added bonus????? I'm not the only one saying this as well. Quite a few of my mates are not impressed.
I think the club should look at what the Jets have recently done with regards to pricing and benefits and energising their membership. That's the benchmark as far as I'm concerned.
Sorry, all I'm seeing here is some gouging.
Edited by RedTillDead: 30/6/2011 02:06:02 PM
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RedTillDead wrote:Why seperate paid membership? Are any other HAl clubs doing this? Thre's a season ticket. And there's the option of a membership. If you only wish to attend games and don't care about the behind the scenes, buy the season ticket. If you want to have a voice in the club, buy a membership too. Details of which will be released shortly. RedTillDead wrote:Sorry to be cynical but the club have stated they want to cut costs and likewise presumably increase revenue. What will the likely benefits of such a 'membership'? Would we really be getting a say in things? not likely I'd unfortunately have to suggest? This membership option will no doubt increase revenue, but it will be channeled back into the club. The details of benefits, like I said, will be released soon, so you can make up your mind if you want to commit later on. RedTillDead wrote:Overall not really impressed with the seasons ticekteing especially the "blue" category. More money for the same area I sat in last season for what added bonus????? I'm not the only one saying this as well. Quite a few of my mates are not impressed. How much is it different to sit in the Blue section this season? I'm actually interested to know, as my Gold season ticket will cost me about $1.50 less each game. The bonus is that you'll be guaranteed good viewing angles, whilst still enjoy your unreserved seating. You just need to look at things in perspective. RedTillDead wrote:I think the club should look at what the Jets have recently done with regards to pricing and benefits and energising their membership. That's the benchmark as far as I'm concerned. Their pricing is to reflect their population density. I do admit their pricing structures are quite attractive.
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RedTillDead wrote:
• A third category had been added to the seating options (Eastern Stand is now Blue)
• A new and separate membership option will be made available at a later time. The board are working through and finalising the details of what will be involved and the cost of this membership. The aim of the membership is get the supporters closer to the club. Details will be released once they are confirmed
Why seperate paid membership? Are any other HAl clubs doing this?
Sorry to be cynical but the club have stated they want to cut costs and likewise presumably increase revenue. What will the likely benefits of such a 'membership'? Would we really be getting a say in things? not likely I'd unfortunately have to suggest?
Overall not really impressed with the seasons ticekteing especially the "blue" category. More money for the same area I sat in last season for what added bonus????? I'm not the only one saying this as well. Quite a few of my mates are not impressed.
I think the club should look at what the Jets have recently done with regards to pricing and benefits and energising their membership. That's the benchmark as far as I'm concerned.
Sorry, all I'm seeing here is some gouging.
Edited by RedTillDead: 30/6/2011 02:06:02 PM
Sad fact of life. CPI increase due to council rates increase, power increase, water increase, food increase >>>>> Things always increase in price for exactly the same thing! Fact of life - never a real proper reason given. Just have to find a new place to view from. However, I find Hindmarsh really good place to watch the Reds - we're quite lucky. Would you prefer Gold coast with no people, a shit pitch and a fat controller? or Victory where the ground is made for aussie-rules and its very close to the CBD of a city 3x bigger than Adelaide? I realise we want prices to go down - but has that ever happened?
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I know I'm thick but how the hell do you quote like that on here?
Anyway Redcup: My argument is not about the quality of Hindmarsh which is one of the best boutique footbal grounds going. I'm saying that the price increases are being dressed up as something special in terms of a "blue" membership. There's no difference. I accept price increases. However don't increase and attempt to sell me something extra when it's not there. And to answer your last comment about prices going down the answer is yes it can happen look at the Jets package. According to others (Jets fans) they are at least 20% cheaper than last year. Plus you get a Hat and Scarfe. Plus the kids get a free training session with the club for a kids membership of $50. In fact looking at their site you can get a family of 4 a membership for $250!!! I think this is usustainable in the long run but it shows that a different lower price orientated model can exist.
RedsUnited: The thing about having a "voice in the club" I have the potential issue with (I say potential because as you point out we haven't seen it yet). If it's Barcelona style voice then Hell Yeah I'm in and here's my money. Can't see it happening though. We have owners who've forked out for the license. What if our voice wants something different to theirs? Who's going to win?
If a membership voice is what music is to be played when the mascots come out then that's not a voice.
One last thing I presume being members and the additional money being channeled into the club that we would know where the money from memberships will be spent?
Look this seems overly negative. I think dialogue with the fans is brilliant (FFA I'm looking at you) and I love the club, have been there since day dot and will always be there but I won't swallow things blindly. Questions and transparency are good things
Edited by RedTillDead: 30/6/2011 04:15:15 PM
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As a Membership thing what about getting something off the ground like the Phoenix did in terms of sponsoring a local player in the squad. Rini and team could have final say on player of course as they would be taking a spot but that would be great engagement I reckon. How'd it all work over there? Imagine if we got our own Rojas :lol:
Spew if Melb Fail nicked him though :lol:
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That is why I said we should wait and see what the additional cost of the membership entails before making judgements on it. Yeah, it could be a complete flop, but it could also be the Barcelona-esque membership that everyone aspires to (maybe).
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I hope you are right and it adds something truly different. I am eagerly waiting the detail.
I unfortunately know 2 people who have said that they won't be renewing their membership/season ticket/whatever this season. One because of financial things but one also becuase they are pissed at the whole Flores thing and now this. A bit fickle but that's how some are.
Not the clubs fault Marcos deciding when he did (plus I don't think the club could have done much more, even the the money was a bit light on) but the timing was not great. you're selling a product and one of the best selling
Plenty of time to go I guess so hopefully the club can get some good news momentum going.
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can i make one thing very clear.
ADELAIDE UNITED DID NOT OFFER MARCOS FLORES ENOUGH MONEY. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
he did not want to leave. the money AU put to him is nowhere near what it should have been. I, like anyone else would of not hung around either. Marcos Flores was worth every penny, but the new owners of AU unfortunately are not interested in building this club. They are only interested in breaking even - and thats a fact people
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trosa001 wrote:can i make one thing very clear.
ADELAIDE UNITED DID NOT OFFER MARCOS FLORES ENOUGH MONEY. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
he did not want to leave. the money AU put to him is nowhere near what it should have been. I, like anyone else would of not hung around either. Marcos Flores was worth every penny, but the new owners of AU unfortunately are not interested in building this club. They are only interested in breaking even - and thats a fact people And where is the extra money going to come from? You? If you're trying to build a club for long term sustainability, obviously there will be cuts to expenditure - Flores just happened to be one of those cuts. If the club can't afford to offer him $800k a season, then so be it. And don't tell me he would have stayed for less - if money wasn't a deciding factor he would have accepted the $320k a season offer. Like Marcos said himself, love and business are two separate things. In the end he had to take care of himself.
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trosa001 wrote:can i make one thing very clear.
ADELAIDE UNITED DID NOT OFFER MARCOS FLORES ENOUGH MONEY. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
he did not want to leave. the money AU put to him is nowhere near what it should have been. I, like anyone else would of not hung around either. Marcos Flores was worth every penny, but the new owners of AU unfortunately are not interested in building this club. They are only interested in breaking even - and thats a fact people Can I make one thing very clear. What you have written is your own, completely subjective, opinion. Plain and simple. Marcos is probably worth what he'll earn in China if we look at it from a world perspective. Unfortunately, Adelaide play in the emerging A-League and we don't have that money to throw around. There are plenty of fans willing to spend millions of other people's money to build the team. The new owners will make mistakes but they are trying to make us sustainable. We couldn't afford Marcos. Sad but true. Those are the real facts. RedTillDead, I agree that things have come together with Marcos and the membership thing at a very unfortunate time. But ticket prices have to go up sometimes. I don't think the club is trying to fool anyone into being a member. I think they're trying to make sure that those who want to be members get treated in a way that makes them feel a little bit 'special'. Yes, it will cost more. No, we don't know whether it'll be a success. But if we don't give it a go and stick with the club then we do know it'll fail. I'm no apologist for the club and the new owners. They are as fallible as anyone else. But, like you, I bloody love the REDS and I'm prepared to suck it and see for a while in the hope that we can make this club everything we want it to be. Right now I don't think the club is communicating with fans very well. With Marcos leaving we need to be told what is being done to unearth the next fan's favourite. That's one thing membership should entail - proper and regular communication about major issues about the club's future. It's the least we deserve.
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Has the lack of communication with the public been partly due to Nic Kerber's sojourn with the Joeys? If so, he'll be back shortly... :p
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Maybe, RU. Or maybe they'll all enjoy nice time watching the rest of the games. The club have needed their media people more than ever in the last couple of weeks and they've not had them. It's all well and good to have nice lunches with other important people but managing the media and relating to the fans is FAR more important.
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At least Val is doing a fine job pushing the Reds into the paper as much as he can... haha
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RedTillDead wrote:I know I'm thick but how the hell do you quote like that on here?
Edited by RedTillDead: 30/6/2011 04:15:15 PM Please indicate where I intimated that you were thick. If you took offence, all I can do is apologize. My comments were based on my time on this earth and the fact that I get narky about complaints about parking, viewing etc at Hindmarsh. Us Reds supporters are lucky and I'm willing to pay the set amount to see my chosen team until I get priced out of the market. What the Newcastle owners do is their business and as business people I'm sure they know what they're doing ( the market may well be different over there, the inclusion of the NRL team may have some effect - who knows what's going on? ) I certainly won't offer unwanted advice as what you choose to do is up to you. [ if that quote phrase was generally related: LOG ONTO FORUMS ( in the user bar below 442 title )>GO TO AUSTRALIAN FOOTBALL> CHOOSE TOPIC> THEN IN TOP RIGHT CORNER OF CHOSEN THREAD IS A QUOTE BUTTON> CLICK AND ANSWER. Edited by redcup: 30/6/2011 09:38:40 PM
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RedTillDead wrote:
• A third category had been added to the seating options (Eastern Stand is now Blue)
• A new and separate membership option will be made available at a later time. The board are working through and finalising the details of what will be involved and the cost of this membership. The aim of the membership is get the supporters closer to the club. Details will be released once they are confirmed
Why seperate paid membership? Are any other HAl clubs doing this?
Sorry to be cynical but the club have stated they want to cut costs and likewise presumably increase revenue. What will the likely benefits of such a 'membership'? Would we really be getting a say in things? not likely I'd unfortunately have to suggest?
Overall not really impressed with the seasons ticekteing especially the "blue" category. More money for the same area I sat in last season for what added bonus????? I'm not the only one saying this as well. Quite a few of my mates are not impressed.
I think the club should look at what the Jets have recently done with regards to pricing and benefits and energising their membership. That's the benchmark as far as I'm concerned.
Sorry, all I'm seeing here is some gouging.
Edited by RedTillDead: 30/6/2011 02:06:02 PM
the club has plans to have a members clubrooms open for next season, this is what your additional membership will be for.
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Redcup and all it was not having a go at anyone. It was a genuine question about how you can quote a section without the whole comment being shown.
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trosa001 wrote:can i make one thing very clear.
ADELAIDE UNITED DID NOT OFFER MARCOS FLORES ENOUGH MONEY. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
he did not want to leave. the money AU put to him is nowhere near what it should have been. I, like anyone else would of not hung around either. Marcos Flores was worth every penny, but the new owners of AU unfortunately are not interested in building this club. They are only interested in breaking even - and thats a fact people And then the club losing a million a year is worth it is it? I would agree with your statement highlighted in BOLD if you could guarantee to the owners that Hindmarsh stadium is sold out EVERY HOME GAME. Not just a select 2-3000 who just turn up for Melbourne Victory matches but wouldn't turn up against teams like Wellington and Central Coast. Fact is our membership base is not even half of Hindmarsh Stadiums capacity. Maybe if we had 14,000 plus members/season tickets holders and another 8,000 on a waiting list then yes we may pay bigger marquee wages. Regardless of what people say about the owners Im buying a season ticket and a membership. I want this club to be around forever and I never want to hear about this club ever being in financial trouble. If we have to deal with this pain before we gain so be it. I love United before the owners came on board and will love them if and when they have had enough. Win lose or draw get down to hindmarsh.
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Timmo wrote: I love United before the owners came on board and will love them if and when they have had enough.
Win lose or draw get down to hindmarsh. +1 C'MON YOU REDS Damn this off season...
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Timmo wrote:trosa001 wrote:can i make one thing very clear.
ADELAIDE UNITED DID NOT OFFER MARCOS FLORES ENOUGH MONEY. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
he did not want to leave. the money AU put to him is nowhere near what it should have been. I, like anyone else would of not hung around either. Marcos Flores was worth every penny, but the new owners of AU unfortunately are not interested in building this club. They are only interested in breaking even - and thats a fact people And then the club losing a million a year is worth it is it? I would agree with your statement highlighted in BOLD if you could guarantee to the owners that Hindmarsh stadium is sold out EVERY HOME GAME. Not just a select 2-3000 who just turn up for Melbourne Victory matches but wouldn't turn up against teams like Wellington and Central Coast. Fact is our membership base is not even half of Hindmarsh Stadiums capacity. Maybe if we had 14,000 plus members/season tickets holders and another 8,000 on a waiting list then yes we may pay bigger marquee wages. Regardless of what people say about the owners Im buying a season ticket and a membership. I want this club to be around forever and I never want to hear about this club ever being in financial trouble. If we have to deal with this pain before we gain so be it. I love United before the owners came on board and will love them if and when they have had enough. Win lose or draw get down to hindmarsh. Timmi speaks the truth. COYR!
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Davide82 wrote:Timmo wrote: I love United before the owners came on board and will love them if and when they have had enough.
Win lose or draw get down to hindmarsh. +1 C'MON YOU REDS Damn this off season... Oh my, no truer statement - it is driving me absolutely batty!
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football.
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i understand that players come and go. look at the turnover in our squad in the past 3 years.
BUT sometimes you need to make an exception and make a big effort to keep a quality player.
and i think Marcos flores was the exception to the rule here.
He SHOULD still be playing for AU next season, but I think people have already forgotten about him and i doubt very much if we will ever see him again.......
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Haven't forgotten about Flores and never will and I just am glad that I at least saw him play for Adelaide United over the course of 13 months. But its done now and we can't go back now.
Depending on how this membership is set up and what it intails Im sure the many number of reds supporters who take up this membership option this will be their first issue they want to talk about.
hurry up A-League at least we should see some pre-season games soon.
Does anyone reckon that even though its a pre-season match against victory could we see ALL four stands open for that game rather than just the Western stand only? Thoughts?
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