Fox Sports primed to pull pin on A-League, claims broadcast rights guru


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paulc - 8 Apr 2020 2:31 PM
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I thought you struggled with the meaning of evidence lol.

You are completely incoherent. Stuck at home with time on your hands and a bolt loosened brain. 
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inala brah - 8 Apr 2020 8:11 PM
are fox subscriptions going down when everyone is locked at home??

ill call bullshit. they are likely using covid as an excuse to cut costs.

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inala brah - 8 Apr 2020 8:11 PM
are fox subscriptions going down when everyone is locked at home??

Of course they are.

Even boomers aren't stupid enough to keep paying Murdoch for MASH reruns, because that's all they have to offer now.

Without live sport Foxtel's 20th century business model is completely fucked.
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inala brah - 8 Apr 2020 8:11 PM
are fox subscriptions going down when everyone is locked at home??

ill call bullshit. they are likely using covid as an excuse to cut costs.

Their advertising revenue is imploding as well, not just their’s but across the industry. 
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charlied - 8 Apr 2020 10:13 PM
paulc - 8 Apr 2020 2:31 PM

You are completely incoherent. Stuck at home with time on your hands and a bolt loosened brain. 

I'll blame your dementia for those comments.

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inala brah - 8 Apr 2020 8:11 PM
are fox subscriptions going down when everyone is locked at home??

ill call bullshit. they are likely using covid as an excuse to cut costs.

This. But I think they may be in strife after the virus is over.

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paulc - 9 Apr 2020 9:34 AM
inala brah - 8 Apr 2020 8:11 PM

This. But I think they may be in strife after the virus is over.

It depends which part of the economy you’re in - if your job is not impacted you probably haven’t thought about the FoxTel subscription but if you’re one of the millions that have lost their job, or are on reduced pay, or fear for the future of your job then the $60-$80/month FoxTel subscription is probable an early cost saving. Especially when you can get STAN, Netflix, and Amazon Prime for $10-$15/month each. We are now in a severe recession - typically FoxTel would do poorly in such an economic environment. 
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inala brah - 8 Apr 2020 8:11 PM
are fox subscriptions going down when everyone is locked at home??

ill call bullshit. they are likely using covid as an excuse to cut costs.

People lose jobs. People cancel Foxtel. Foxtel cut costs

Not hard to understand. You really think this is just society as normal but everybody is on holiday for 2-3 months?




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Waz - 9 Apr 2020 9:40 AM
paulc - 9 Apr 2020 9:34 AM

It depends which part of the economy you’re in - if your job is not impacted you probably haven’t thought about the FoxTel subscription but if you’re one of the millions that have lost their job, or are on reduced pay, or fear for the future of your job then the $60-$80/month FoxTel subscription is probable an early cost saving. Especially when you can get STAN, Netflix, and Amazon Prime for $10-$15/month each. We are now in a severe recession - typically FoxTel would do poorly in such an economic environment. 

With Fox throwing in movies and sport into the package for free, is enough reason to keep the basic package going and avoid the cutting Fox right out altogether. I think people at home will be reluctant to dispose of one of the very few aspects of entertainment remaining. At the moment anyway.

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paulc - 9 Apr 2020 9:54 AM
Waz - 9 Apr 2020 9:40 AM

With Fox throwing in movies and sport into the package for free, is enough reason to keep the basic package going and avoid the cutting Fox right out altogether. I think people at home will be reluctant to dispose of one of the very few aspects of entertainment remaining. At the moment anyway.

I don’t know. The headlines are masking the stark reality that for millions of people they are going to struggle to pay rent/mortgage and the normal bills. And with the government signalling there’s no short term end to this many people will be very fearful 
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bluebird - 9 Apr 2020 9:42 AM
inala brah - 8 Apr 2020 8:11 PM

People lose jobs. People cancel Foxtel. Foxtel cut costs

Not hard to understand. You really think this is just society as normal but everybody is on holiday for 2-3 months?

That’s how I’m treating. Did cancel kayo though. 
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Waz - 9 Apr 2020 9:40 AM
paulc - 9 Apr 2020 9:34 AM

It depends which part of the economy you’re in - if your job is not impacted you probably haven’t thought about the FoxTel subscription but if you’re one of the millions that have lost their job, or are on reduced pay, or fear for the future of your job then the $60-$80/month FoxTel subscription is probable an early cost saving. Especially when you can get STAN, Netflix, and Amazon Prime for $10-$15/month each. We are now in a severe recession - typically FoxTel would do poorly in such an economic environment. 

at the moment you can get foxtel now - streaming - basic package for $25 per month and their entire catalogue is available.

https://www.finder.com.au/foxtel-free-upgraded-content-and-unlimited-data


 




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bluebird - 9 Apr 2020 9:42 AM
inala brah - 8 Apr 2020 8:11 PM

People lose jobs. People cancel Foxtel. Foxtel cut costs

Not hard to understand. You really think this is just society as normal but everybody is on holiday for 2-3 months?

straw man

 




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Waz - 9 Apr 2020 9:40 AM
paulc - 9 Apr 2020 9:34 AM

It depends which part of the economy you’re in - if your job is not impacted you probably haven’t thought about the FoxTel subscription but if you’re one of the millions that have lost their job, or are on reduced pay, or fear for the future of your job then the $60-$80/month FoxTel subscription is probable an early cost saving. Especially when you can get STAN, Netflix, and Amazon Prime for $10-$15/month each. We are now in a severe recession - typically FoxTel would do poorly in such an economic environment. 

As the result of the shutdowns, i'm one of the people that has been put on reduced pay. I'm still employed but rather than stand staff down, my boss offered temporary salary reductions to all staff. As soon as that happened, I immediately went through all of my subscriptions and direct debits and cancelled anything non-essential (basically anything entertainment related). All of my work colleagues have done the same. Three of them had Foxtel, and all three have cancelled their subscriptions. One of them has even decided not to renew her lease and has moved back into her parents house with her boyfriend. A good 40% of my employers client base is from the events and sports industries (among others) including a small amount of work for the NRL and Super Rugby. To put that in perspective, the amount of revenue we collect from the two rugby seasons alone covers one staff member's salary for an entire year. So far, no-one has lost their job where I work, but that runway is only so long. We know that the business will bounce back once restrictions are lifted, but we don't know when that will be, so we need to prepare for the long haul.

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someguyjc - 9 Apr 2020 1:47 PM
Waz - 9 Apr 2020 9:40 AM

As the result of the shutdowns, i'm one of the people that has been put on reduced pay. I'm still employed but rather than stand staff down, my boss offered temporary salary reductions to all staff. As soon as that happened, I immediately went through all of my subscriptions and direct debits and cancelled anything non-essential (basically anything entertainment related). All of my work colleagues have done the same. Three of them had Foxtel, and all three have cancelled their subscriptions. One of them has even decided not to renew her lease and has moved back into her parents house with her boyfriend. A good 40% of my employers client base is from the events and sports industries (among others) including a small amount of work for the NRL and Super Rugby. To put that in perspective, the amount of revenue we collect from the two rugby seasons alone covers one staff member's salary for an entire year. So far, no-one has lost their job where I work, but that runway is only so long. We know that the business will bounce back once restrictions are lifted, but we don't know when that will be, so we need to prepare for the long haul.
You and I are sailing in the same boat.... along with a few million others. Cash is king at the moment and the only discretionary spend I have kept on (actually increased) is on the alcohol 🍺 


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Waz - 9 Apr 2020 2:10 PM
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You and I are sailing in the same boat.... along with a few million others. Cash is king at the moment and the only discretionary spend I have kept on (actually increased) is on the alcohol 🍺 


Ain't that the truth. I've convinced myself that I'm spending less on petrol and public transport, so it's ok to spend it on booze.
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someguyjc - 9 Apr 2020 2:26 PM
Waz - 9 Apr 2020 2:10 PM

Ain't that the truth. I've convinced myself that I'm spending less on petrol and public transport, so it's ok to spend it on booze.

Solid logic, I'll go with that.

Bottle shop sales are up 28%, but pubs are down 100%, so that's actually pretty mild.
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You and I are sailing in the same boat.... along with a few million others. Cash is king at the moment and the only discretionary spend I have kept on (actually increased) is on the alcohol 🍺 


cash isn't king, no one wants to touch it now lol, tap n go :)


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Cancelled my Viasat Sport because no football. Sure they have movies in the package but I would rather rent a movie that I want to watch then having to watch movies because I pay for that. Already do that with Netflix and Viaplay.

Saving money cooking lunch while working from home. As I eat at a restaurant every day at work.

No AL means I have to get out of bed on the weekends. 
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“The prominent barrister who helped Cardinal George Pell win his appeal at the High Court is advising Football Federation Australia of its contractual rights in the game's standoff with Fox Sports, who could terminate the broadcast deal if the A-League does not resume by June 30.”

Sources with knowledge of the deal suggest Fox Sports will have to pay the final quarterly sum for this season, due on April 15, but could issue FFA with a breach notice if the A-League remains postponed by the end of this financial year.

Under the terms of the contract, the FFA is free to postpone the A-League season without punishment so long as they complete the entire season within a contract year, which runs from July 1 until June 30.FFA is due to decide on April 22 as to whether the season can resume but there appears to be very little prospect of play being resumed in the short term. Senior A-League sources are touting a possible return date in July, but even that isn't certain.
Amid fears that delay could allow Fox Sports to tear up its contract with the A-League – which has three years left to run and is worth $57m a year – sources close to FFA confirmed leading silk Bret Walker SC has been engaged ahead of a potential legal fight with the broadcaster.
FFA chief James Johnson is looking at alternatives in case Fox Sports withdraws from the A-League.
FFA chief James Johnson is looking at alternatives in case Fox Sports withdraws from the A-League.AAP
Sydney-based Walker is one Australia's foremost legal minds and has taken on a wide range of high-profile cases throughout his career, having represented rugby league players, tobacco companies, politicians and alleged organised crime figures. He also headed the royal commission into the Murray-Darling Basin, the review into national security and counter-terrorism legislation, and Swimming Australia's probe of drug use within the country's swimming team at the London Olympics in 2012.A High Court appeals specialist, Walker successfully argued Cardinal Pell's convictions for sexually abusing two choirboys at Melbourne's St Patrick's Cathedral in 1996 should be quashed.The involvement of a barrister of Walker's calibre in football's affairs is a sign of how seriously FFA and the A-League is treating the prospect of a court battle with Foxtel, the owners of Fox Sports, to enforce the remainder of the TV contract and other similar arrangements with sponsors which could also come into question.
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Fox Sports is facing a major financial crisis of its own, with more than 200 workers at parent company Foxtel made redundant this week and a further 140 stood down without pay in response to the COVID-19 outbreak.

Fox is not expected to step away from its obligations with the AFL or NRL, but has been unhappy with the ratings performance of the A-League for some time, and many recent staff cuts have included football-specific presenters, producers and journalists.”

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/soccer/ffa-hires-pell-barrister-amid-stand-off-with-fox-over-a-league-rights-20200408-p54idt.html





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I guess that means the FFA is trying extra hard to see out the broadcast deal.

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inala brah - 9 Apr 2020 11:59 AM
Waz - 9 Apr 2020 9:40 AM

at the moment you can get foxtel now - streaming - basic package for $25 per month and their entire catalogue is available.

https://www.finder.com.au/foxtel-free-upgraded-content-and-unlimited-data

So many more and cheaper alternatives. This is a time when Foxtel has genuine competition for home entertainment. 
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bettega - 10 Apr 2020 8:12 AM
I guess that means the FFA is trying extra hard to see out the broadcast deal.

It certainly confirms that no alternatives are on the horizon. It's actually very depressing news. 
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Waz - 9 Apr 2020 2:10 PM
someguyjc - 9 Apr 2020 1:47 PM
You and I are sailing in the same boat.... along with a few million others. Cash is king at the moment and the only discretionary spend I have kept on (actually increased) is on the alcohol 🍺 


For hand sanitizer right? Lol
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charlied - 10 Apr 2020 8:51 AM
bettega - 10 Apr 2020 8:12 AM

It certainly confirms that no alternatives are on the horizon. It's actually very depressing news. 

Maybe flying all the HAL players to an island is an option...
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Burztur - 10 Apr 2020 8:50 AM
inala brah - 9 Apr 2020 11:59 AM

So many more and cheaper alternatives. This is a time when Foxtel has genuine competition for home entertainment. 

$25 per month for full access - without the box - is putting it in the ball park of other streaming services. how does their content line up with other providers?

 




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Well, the nrl have anounced their intentions. What about aleague, will they anounce on april 22, they will finally finish the last handful of rounds, or sit on their hands-not usually Johnson's style to say or do nothing.
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inala brah - 10 Apr 2020 9:29 AM
Burztur - 10 Apr 2020 8:50 AM

$25 per month for full access - without the box - is putting it in the ball park of other streaming services. how does their content line up with other providers?

25% more than 4k 4 accounts Netflix...

Amazon Prime at $6.95...

Fox is still expensive and it's owned by Murdoch.



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soccerfoo - 10 Apr 2020 12:17 PM
Well, the nrl have anounced their intentions. What about aleague, will they anounce on april 22, they will finally finish the last handful of rounds, or sit on their hands-not usually Johnson's style to say or do nothing.

Really, what has he done, other than standing down 70% of staff while keeping his fat executive salary ?


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inala brah - 10 Apr 2020 9:29 AM
Burztur - 10 Apr 2020 8:50 AM

$25 per month for full access - without the box - is putting it in the ball park of other streaming services. how does their content line up with other providers?

I have Netflix, Disney+ and Amazon Prime (which gives me free/expedited delivery and Audible) for $26 a month. Foxtel is only for Live Sport and HBO and now, half of that is gone.
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