Davide82
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I hate to be simplistic but my feelings today after digesting everything is;
"C'mon you Reds!!!!!!"
Hopefully I get a reply from them soon as to why I don't get any of the emails to financial members others seemed to have gotten about merch and things like this meeting
I got the first one then nothing and neither has my dad who I bought one for too
No matter, I love Adelaide United
Even my partner wants to go to the next home game and she generally doesn't give a toss aha, good sign
Edited by davide82: 19/12/2011 11:05:27 PM
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Timmo
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If anyone is thinking of becoming a financial member consider if not for this year then for next season. What the financial members heard tonight at this meeting is more than what any other a-league club supporters will here ever in terms of where the club is now and where it wants to be.
At present I think it was said we have over 700 financial members and over 7000 honorary members.
Pretty much in a nutshell they want this club not to be reliant on white knights to bail them out and as glenn said tonight Adelaide united is very valuable to the city of Adelaide and the state of south Australia with the economic benefits it brings in
Edited by Timmo: 19/12/2011 11:05:34 PM
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Davide82
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I also feel like a lioness(hmmm I'll work on that one) now if someone criticises our club since yesterday.
This is OUR club, back off.
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RedTillDead
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Timmo wrote:If anyone is thinking of becoming a financial member consider if not for this year then for next season. What the financial members heard tonight at this meeting is more than what any other a-league club supporters will here ever in terms of where the club is now and where it wants to be.
At present I think it was said we have over 700 financial members and over 7000 honorary members.
Pretty much in a nutshell they want this club not to be reliant on white knights to bail them out and as glenn said tonight Adelaide united is very valuable to the city of Adelaide and the state of south Australia with the economic benefits it brings in
Edited by Timmo: 19/12/2011 11:05:34 PM Ah yes Good point forgot about this. Glen indicated that having the sole investor, 'sugar daddy' model was very dangerous. A community based model was much more sustainable. Also they seemed pretty happy with the membership total, they budgeted on reaching 5k. One other thing that was interesting was the finances associated with ACL. Glen indicated that they have gone on a worse case scenario in terms budgeting i.e. not getting a win or a draw. If we get a win or a draw then it's all good. Pretty much happy if we come out break even from the ACL. Surprised me now that I think about as I though the AFC covered all travel expenses....
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Davide82 wrote:I hate to be simplistic but my feelings today after digesting everything is;
"C'mon you Reds!!!!!!"
Hopefully I get a reply from them soon as to why I don't get any of the emails to financial members others seemed to have gotten about merch and things like this meeting
I got the first one then nothing and neither has my dad who I bought one for too
No matter, I love Adelaide United
Even my partner wants to go to the next home game and she generally doesn't give a toss aha, good sign
Edited by davide82: 19/12/2011 11:05:27 PM Funny you mention this. A lady there said that she was not receiving emails. You should do what Glen told that person: Email him directly and he'll get it sorted. He said for [size=7] ANY[/size] Financial Member to email him at any time if they had problems!!!!! Me liked that lots and lots :)
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Great to hear that the evening went well. Also good to hear that more fans heard straight from the horse's mouth. Most of what was said I covered in the last report from the fan's committee (which I posted here) but it's good that the word is spreading. Fans like to feel appreciated and informed and the club is making some good moves.
People go on and on about the new owners - either as saviors or as clueless AFL junkies. I don't think they are either, they're simply passionate South Aussies with some real business acumen and the desire to see our club grow and prosper. And they put their money, time and energy where it matters. I'm trusting them.
I'm not sure it's a good idea to pass on the stuff about the club's relationship with the FFSA. I know the club has been working hard on this and it's not been easy but there are historical reasons for the rift and it won't be worked out quickly. I'm sure Glen wasn't blaming the clubs - just frustrated that he can't bridge that gap as soon as he'd like. Imagine if the whole football community in SA was solidly behind the REDS! That'd be amazing. Hard to imagine - but amazing.
As for Rini, I think the right decision was made but now I'm happy to say "thanks for the effort" and hope that he and his family are ok and can get on with their lives without any bitterness or rancor. There's no good way to sack someone (or demote them) and it always hurts.
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Quote:Kosmina gets the A-OK by: Tom Smithies From: The Daily Telegraph December 20, 2011 12:00AM JOHN Kosmina has been given dispensation by the A-League to take over as Adelaide's head coach, despite not having the requisite coaching licence to take a senior job in the national competition. The game's national curriculum specifies head coaches must hold a minimum 'A' licence, the second highest level in the game. In two years time that requirement will rise to the so-called Pro-Licence, the highest there is, a stipulation that is already in place to coach in the Asian Champions League. Kosmina currently holds only the 'B' licence and Adelaide sought permission from the FFA for him to take the job while finishing his qualifications, which CEO Ben Buckley granted on Saturday. However it's unlikely he will be able to do that before Adelaide's ACL campaign begins in March, meaning the club will have to nominate someone with the A-Licence to act as "head coach" in Asia. A club spokesman said United were still looking at options to that end. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/soccer/kosmina-gets-the-a-ok/story-e6frey4r-1226226155526
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jessesdad wrote:
I'm not sure it's a good idea to pass on the stuff about the club's relationship with the FFSA. I know the club has been working hard on this and it's not been easy but there are historical reasons for the rift and it won't be worked out quickly. I'm sure Glen wasn't blaming the clubs - just frustrated that he can't bridge that gap as soon as he'd like. Imagine if the whole football community in SA was solidly behind the REDS! That'd be amazing. Hard to imagine - but amazing.
Just on this I'm comfortable with what I wrote becuase Glen said as much. Furthermore it was said in a public forum. If I had a private converstaion with Glen then this would not have been appropriate. Also, he wasn't blaming the clubs at all. He was trying to illustarte that the sometimes picture of the club not giving back to the scene or trying to engage with local clubs was incorrect. He felt that it was neccessary that people did hear about what the club was trying to do in terms of local engagement. He used other examples as well that I didn't report. I thought it was good becuase there were a few members there who heavilly engaged in local clubs and seemed have this perception (this is my view). They were shocked at the examples Glen indicated. There are always 2 sides to the story, I just hadn't heard the Clubs and I figured some others hadn't either.
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Davide82
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I am glad you passed on stories from the event but I think Stephen just meant he didn't think it was a good idea for the CLUB to say those things, not you.
I think it's ok too. We do need to know they are trying and it's good to see
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The issue about the relationship between Adelaide United and FFSA is an absolute critical issue and i'm really thankful that the club (and RedTillDead) have communicated this to us.
It shows what i've been blabbering on for ages: the game is fractured and divided and not headed in the same direction.
As a code, we will always be a half-rate game until these political messes are sorted out. I'm glad AU have tried, but Glenn might want to save himself the effort. This is a matter that only Old Man Frank can deal with. It's an issue he SHOULD HAVE sorted out back in 2003 [Crawford Report!!] but clearly he's made little progress.
I'm glad AUFC have attempted to communicate with the state clubs, invited them round for dinner and watch the games. I'm glad that they offered extra compensation for Ricardo Da Silva. I hope they keep trying.
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RedEyeRob wrote:The issue about the relationship between Adelaide United and FFSA is an absolute critical issue and i'm really thankful that the club (and RedTillDead) have communicated this to us.
It shows what i've been blabbering on for ages: the game is fractured and divided and not headed in the same direction.
As a code, we will always be a half-rate game until these political messes are sorted out. I'm glad AU have tried, but Glenn might want to save himself the effort. This is a matter that only Old Man Frank can deal with. It's an issue he SHOULD HAVE sorted out back in 2003 [Crawford Report!!] but clearly he's made little progress.
I'm glad AUFC have attempted to communicate with the state clubs, invited them round for dinner and watch the games. I'm glad that they offered extra compensation for Ricardo Da Silva. I hope they keep trying.
Being semi-involved in the local game through my son's participation it has struck me how bad the relationship is between the clubs AND the FFSA, nevermind with the Reds. It all seems personality based unfortunately. In a crazy way I think the Reds could actually play a useful role in terms of being the go-between, cicuit breaker so to speak to try and mend fences.
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RedTillDead wrote:Davide82 wrote:I hate to be simplistic but my feelings today after digesting everything is;
"C'mon you Reds!!!!!!"
Hopefully I get a reply from them soon as to why I don't get any of the emails to financial members others seemed to have gotten about merch and things like this meeting
I got the first one then nothing and neither has my dad who I bought one for too
No matter, I love Adelaide United
Even my partner wants to go to the next home game and she generally doesn't give a toss aha, good sign
Edited by davide82: 19/12/2011 11:05:27 PM Funny you mention this. A lady there said that she was not receiving emails. You should do what Glen told that person: Email him directly and he'll get it sorted. He said for [size=7] ANY[/size] Financial Member to email him at any time if they had problems!!!!! Me liked that lots and lots :) Im a season ticket holder and hardly hear a peep from the club so I appreciate the update posted here - thanks (a mate of mine buys one or two tickets a year, and he told me about an email invite he got to Mclaren Vale)
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RedTillDead wrote:jessesdad wrote:
I'm not sure it's a good idea to pass on the stuff about the club's relationship with the FFSA. I know the club has been working hard on this and it's not been easy but there are historical reasons for the rift and it won't be worked out quickly. I'm sure Glen wasn't blaming the clubs - just frustrated that he can't bridge that gap as soon as he'd like. Imagine if the whole football community in SA was solidly behind the REDS! That'd be amazing. Hard to imagine - but amazing.
Just on this I'm comfortable with what I wrote becuase Glen said as much. Furthermore it was said in a public forum. If I had a private converstaion with Glen then this would not have been appropriate. Also, he wasn't blaming the clubs at all. He was trying to illustarte that the sometimes picture of the club not giving back to the scene or trying to engage with local clubs was incorrect. He felt that it was neccessary that people did hear about what the club was trying to do in terms of local engagement. He used other examples as well that I didn't report. I thought it was good becuase there were a few members there who heavilly engaged in local clubs and seemed have this perception (this is my view). They were shocked at the examples Glen indicated. There are always 2 sides to the story, I just hadn't heard the Clubs and I figured some others hadn't either. Not having a go at you. I just think the club needs to be very circumspect about these issues so as not to inflame any existing hurts. Whatever the rights or wrongs of the impasse, the future health of the great game in SA depends on the ability of the whole community of football to work together and avoid blaming each other for perceived insults. In one of the first fans committee meetings Glen laid out his plan to try and communicate better with the clubs. As with a whole range of things he's encountering, this may prove to be harder and a longer process than he anticipated. The positive thing is that he has genuine goodwill towards the football community at grass-roots.
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jessesdad wrote:RedTillDead wrote:jessesdad wrote:
I'm not sure it's a good idea to pass on the stuff about the club's relationship with the FFSA. I know the club has been working hard on this and it's not been easy but there are historical reasons for the rift and it won't be worked out quickly. I'm sure Glen wasn't blaming the clubs - just frustrated that he can't bridge that gap as soon as he'd like. Imagine if the whole football community in SA was solidly behind the REDS! That'd be amazing. Hard to imagine - but amazing.
Just on this I'm comfortable with what I wrote becuase Glen said as much. Furthermore it was said in a public forum. If I had a private converstaion with Glen then this would not have been appropriate. Also, he wasn't blaming the clubs at all. He was trying to illustarte that the sometimes picture of the club not giving back to the scene or trying to engage with local clubs was incorrect. He felt that it was neccessary that people did hear about what the club was trying to do in terms of local engagement. He used other examples as well that I didn't report. I thought it was good becuase there were a few members there who heavilly engaged in local clubs and seemed have this perception (this is my view). They were shocked at the examples Glen indicated. There are always 2 sides to the story, I just hadn't heard the Clubs and I figured some others hadn't either. Not having a go at you. I just think the club needs to be very circumspect about these issues so as not to inflame any existing hurts. Whatever the rights or wrongs of the impasse, the future health of the great game in SA depends on the ability of the whole community of football to work together and avoid blaming each other for perceived insults. In one of the first fans committee meetings Glen laid out his plan to try and communicate better with the clubs. As with a whole range of things he's encountering, this may prove to be harder and a longer process than he anticipated. The positive thing is that he has genuine goodwill towards the football community at grass-roots. Fair enough. Edited by RedTillDead: 20/12/2011 01:39:51 PM
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General Ashnak
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Wish I was able to get to the meeting :( But was happy about why I had to miss it! Things sound very positive from out of the club and I think Greg and Glenn are fantastic people to be leading the direction the club is taking. After hearing from Greg on TWG last night and the info that has come out of the meeting with Glenn I have an even better level of belief in the structure that is behind AUFC and their motivation for what they have been doing. This year will have been an absolutely massive learning curve for them - but they are winners and they want AUFC to be a winner as well so will back them to do what they need to do in order to get there. Continuing to improve their communication with not just us Financial Members but the season ticket holders will go a long way towards keeping that support.
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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I also went last night and re the local club invites i was really pissed off that only 2 clubs had respect for AUFC. This was posted on Footballnews which is used by many local club people/members/VP's and presidents, and then general concencious is that they never received any invitation. So now I dont know what to think, is it the local clubs, is it Admin screw up at AUFC? either way it highlights a very important issue. A friend who attended last night suggested a FFSA rep be placed on the AUFC board to strengthen the relationship which I think would take a positive step forward in solving this HUGE problem.
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General Ashnak
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This may sound a bit of a stretch, but I would not be surprised if the invitation was extended via FFSA. If that was the case then I would have no surprise that the vast majority of the local clubs heard nothing about it. Same with the offer of $10,000 worth of balls.
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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Davide82
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I know this is being a pain but can any other "members" here confirm with me what emails theyve received from the club? I got the last one on Oct 25th that i posted on here with all the spelling mistakes(below) This is the last one I got apparently other people have had one regarding merchandise and possibly invites/info to members meeting last night and tapestry wines etc, info i have seen on our website i think but not received This is that last one i got on Oct 25 : Quote:[size=3]Dear Davide,
On behalf of the Club we are pleased to welcome you as an inaugural AUFC Member. It is the first step toward achieving the goal of becoming a membership based sporting entity of which all can be proud. For the record the key objects of the Club contained in the Constitution include but are not limited to the following: · Support and encourage the game of soccer in South Australia · Promote god fellowship amongst members of the Club and associated social facilities By joining you will now be eligible to: · Vote for the election of three Committee Members at the Annual General Meeting · Candidates must be nominated by a current financial Member, of which your one. All of this information will be available to you upon receipt of the Adelaide United Members Club Inc Constitution. So where to from here? We would like to provide the following Club update: · Hindmarsh Stadium The challenge for the Club is negotiate a stadium deal which provides long term security for United. Currently we pay a significant fee for each match day offset by ticket sales from which Ticketek take a fee. The Club does not receive any income from catering. A future deal must provide an upside for both United and Government whilst at the same time keeping the game affordable for the fans · Pre Season Matches We hope you enjoyed the games which were included in your membership – especially the Harry Kewell match. · Members Day @ Tapestry Wines – McLaren vale All financial members will be invited to a Players/Coaches day courtesy of Tapestry Wines owned by Robert Gerard – date and further to be advised shortly · 2011/12 Expectations We look sound on paper, but performance is another matter. The win against the Victory at Hindmarsh was a fantastic result, but the Perth and Sydney matches were certainly a wakeup call with the sobering reality of playing Brisbane Roar this week at Suncorp Stadium Thanks for the support Go the Reds[/size]
Obviously i dont wanna bug them if they just havent sent any since then is all Im sure they are well busy this week down there
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General Ashnak
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Quote:Dear Jeremy,
Thank you for registering your interest to attend Adelaide United's Members Information Night. Your attendance has now been confirmed. When: 5.30pm, Monday 19 December 2011 Where: Reds Room (Level 2 Bar, Hindmarsh Stadium) - Enter via Corporate Entry, Holden Street
We look forward to seeing you on Monday night. Regards. Adelaide United FC Received 16/12/2011
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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General Ashnak
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I have also gotten generic ones as well. You haven't accidentally marked them as spam have you?
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Davide82 wrote:I know this is being a pain but can any other "members" here confirm with me what emails theyve received from the club? I got the last one on Oct 25th that i posted on here with all the spelling mistakes(below) This is the last one I got apparently other people have had one regarding merchandise and possibly invites/info to members meeting last night and tapestry wines etc, info i have seen on our website i think but not received This is that last one i got on Oct 25 : Quote:[size=3]Dear Davide,
On behalf of the Club we are pleased to welcome you as an inaugural AUFC Member. It is the first step toward achieving the goal of becoming a membership based sporting entity of which all can be proud. For the record the key objects of the Club contained in the Constitution include but are not limited to the following: · Support and encourage the game of soccer in South Australia · Promote god fellowship amongst members of the Club and associated social facilities By joining you will now be eligible to: · Vote for the election of three Committee Members at the Annual General Meeting · Candidates must be nominated by a current financial Member, of which your one. All of this information will be available to you upon receipt of the Adelaide United Members Club Inc Constitution. So where to from here? We would like to provide the following Club update: · Hindmarsh Stadium The challenge for the Club is negotiate a stadium deal which provides long term security for United. Currently we pay a significant fee for each match day offset by ticket sales from which Ticketek take a fee. The Club does not receive any income from catering. A future deal must provide an upside for both United and Government whilst at the same time keeping the game affordable for the fans · Pre Season Matches We hope you enjoyed the games which were included in your membership – especially the Harry Kewell match. · Members Day @ Tapestry Wines – McLaren vale All financial members will be invited to a Players/Coaches day courtesy of Tapestry Wines owned by Robert Gerard – date and further to be advised shortly · 2011/12 Expectations We look sound on paper, but performance is another matter. The win against the Victory at Hindmarsh was a fantastic result, but the Perth and Sydney matches were certainly a wakeup call with the sobering reality of playing Brisbane Roar this week at Suncorp Stadium Thanks for the support Go the Reds[/size]
Obviously i dont wanna bug them if they just havent sent any since then is all Im sure they are well busy this week down there I received an email a couple of weeks ago inviting me to the Financial Members meeting. The email also mentioned the Tapestry thing. Sorry I don't have the email. I must have deleted it. Seriously though contact them. Glen was clear about this last night. It is an error. Others at the meeting were nodding when the member spoke about sporadic communication. So it's best they know. This is something the club need to put some money into IMO. They seem to have neither adequate people and systems in place to do this. It would be okay I guess if the club wasn't actually interested in working with its members but they are and this sort of thing will alienate paid up members. It's okay for those on here who can get wind (usually) of things happening but if you're not a forumite and you miss something important like this becuase the club's admin didn't get it right I fear you'll be mightilly pissed
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Davide82
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General Ashnak wrote:I have also gotten generic ones as well. You haven't accidentally marked them as spam have you? C'maaaaaaannnnn Gimme SOME credit ;)
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Davide82
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Also it seems dad hasnt had any either and I signed us up together, he never got any as far as i know so that needs to be rectified anyways
Just a bit of a pain but i should do it as thats what its supposedly all about
I realise its imperfect this year and Im not annoyed really, well not too much, but I mean if we only have 700 financial members its not THAT hard to create some mailing lists really
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You're not alone. I wasn't getting them either. Fortunately my six-year-old was getting them sent to him via my email. I contacted the club and somehow they had me marked down as not wanting to receive emails. They changed that in about 30 seconds. There have been a lot of communication stuff-ups this year. They really do need to fix them or risk losing the goodwill that all their other efforts manage to build up.
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Hey guys, don't have the time at the moment to read the last few pages, but I was wondering if your club has done anything about the unruly fans at last Friday night's game?
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General Ashnak
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Haven't heard as of yet, in fact it hasn't been big news here at all surprisingly!
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General Ashnak wrote:Haven't heard as of yet, in fact it hasn't been big news here at all surprisingly! Fair enough. To be honest, I haven't even seen the incident/s yet, just going from what you Reds fans have said about last Friday. All last week, the Squadron were in the spotlight here in Newcastle, and not for the right reasons, leading to Rugby League fans and non-football fans posting dribble regarding the articles like 'ohhh, sokkahh, they're all hooligans, shit sport, wait for the real football' and other bullshit like that. Too many neanderthals that don't realise that 2 codes can co-exist side by side.
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I'm surprised the media haven't really caught on to the fights, tbh. They've made a few minor mentions of them but not really brought it into the spotlight. Especially as the fight in the south end looked pretty crazy.
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Kossie - "Eugene's the only one that's done his job, everybody else can do better". Thanks for that insight, Kos!
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Glad the young lads I had with me were distracted by the game and didn't notice the fight. I had a great view of it and they went pretty hard for each other. Not much damage done though other than the poor chick who copped it!
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