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+x+x+xIsn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal? This is a fair point, and reminds us of the old saying about one person's terrorist being another's freedom fighter. However, I still believe Antifa are far more problematic than what the media would let us believe. Maybe not the people themselves, but the puppetmasters behind the scenes. But the literal Nazis at Charlottesville aren't? You do know the vast majority of domestic terrorist acts in the US were carried out by right wing nutjobs? You do know that? https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1I'm not saying the left gets a free pass here but you're deluded if you don't think the right is as, if not more, dangerous than the left. (90 per cent of private militia in the US are right wingers for example.) So yeah cut the bullshit. I think you will find though that the all sides of politics roundly condemn right wing extremism and terrorism, while Antifa not only get a free pass but are passively supported by the left media. Stories of Antifa bashing, spitting, stalking and threatening noted conservatives rarely draw the ire of the left wing press who instead often find ways to defend their actions and insinuate them as some sort of freedom fighters fighting Trump fascsim. Antifa would be terrorists if they werent a bunch of scraggly haired feral pussies who wouldnt know how to fire a gun , so they instead resort to congregating in large groups, wearing masks, spitting on people and starting fires so they feel big and mighty.
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+x+x+xIsn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal? This is a fair point, and reminds us of the old saying about one person's terrorist being another's freedom fighter. However, I still believe Antifa are far more problematic than what the media would let us believe. Maybe not the people themselves, but the puppetmasters behind the scenes. But the literal Nazis at Charlottesville aren't? You do know the vast majority of domestic terrorist acts in the US were carried out by right wing nutjobs? You do know that? https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1I'm not saying the left gets a free pass here but you're deluded if you don't think the right is as, if not more, dangerous than the left. (90 per cent of private militia in the US are right wingers for example.) So yeah cut the bullshit. Show me any post of mine where I argued that right wing nutjobs are acceptable.
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+x+x+x+x+xSadly I dont think the left and right can ever reconcile. Rather than condemning the totally unjustified and inexcusable riots and looting, the left is more interested in trying to make Trump look bad. Whether its covid, riots, Russian interference, shooting massacres, everything is always Donald Trumps fault. Trump blaming is full time job for leftists, with triple overtime. If you read CNN you wont find a single article condemning those individuals participating in the riots, just excuse after excuse and article after article trying to inflict damage on Trump. If there’s something we can all agree on it should be that setting cities on fire, destroying businesses and attacking police is wrong, however many leftists, even those on here, are secretly delighted by whats going on, and when we cant even agree on the most basic moral principles that is why the left and right can never reconcile. Go to their YouTube channel. They've had plenty of people on condemning the the looting. What's your opinion on the death of George Floyd? All I read is you complaining about the looting. Lets discuss George Floyd. Every week African Americans shoot unarmed white people and no one gives a shit. No protests, no looting, no anti black American feeding frenzy for the actions of minorites. Stats also show blacks are far more likely to kill unarmed whites than the other way around. Feel bad for Floyd but the statistics do not show racial bias in the use lethal police force. The chap who did it is probably a murderer but that does not prove a racist motive, not does it make the entire police force guilty of systemic racism and oppression, in the same way that when a black kills an unarmed white does not make the entire black community murderers. Ultimately the problem boils down to the mainstream medias narrow obsessive focus on police killings on unarmed blacks, reinforcing fake BLM narrative while omitting important contextual facts such as, 1. police kill more unarmed whites every year than unarmed blacks, 2. if you’re black you’re more likely to be killed by a fellow black than a member of police, 3. police brutality resulting in death is particularly rare. The way the media covers these stories, while supporting fake narratives like BLM infers that police killings such as George Floyd happen frequently and must be racially motivated. At the end of the day George Floyd is one person and one particular incident does not prove the BLM narrative that cops deliberately set out to kill blacks. Its bullshit and the media is guilty of perpetuating these myths and stoking fear, paranoia and resentment which has now manifested in these unjustified riots and opportunistic looting under the guise of justice for George Floyd. Paragraph 1: Please send me your sources for these statistics. I'm not going to argue with you about them because I personally don't have the numbers. I'd be curious to see them. Paragraph 2: Not sure what statistics you are using but here are a few things you need to remember. Check out why the 13th Amendment was created and how the police force, FBI, etc used it to disadvantage the African American population. Check out why electorate collage was created. Understand the history of America, slavery and how the African American community has been targeted ever since slavery was banned. Check out the the economic differences between white and African American families (white familes average almost $1 million in assets whilst African American families average $17k). What do you define as rare? Last year 1,099 people were killed by the police in the USA. That's 1,099 too many for me. Over 1,000 are killed on average. Police have a duty to protect the people and de-escalate every situation. Paragraph 3: Please tell me why it's ok for police officers to do the white power sign? Please tell me why cops avoid conviction when they kill someone? Please tell me why it's ok for an ex police officer to follow Ahmaud Arbery for 4 minutes before his son shot him dead and be free for months before video footage came out? Please tell me why it's ok for police to enter the wrong house and kill Breonna Taylor with no consequences? These are just the cases from 2020. Brother, read a book or two. Search Results 1. www.google.com The signature move by a bad faith debater/keyboard warrior. Closely followed by 'I'm not here to do your research for you.' Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof. You made the claim Rusty, the onus of proof is on you. You are beyond a joke now. Are you Andrew Bolt in disguise?
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+x+x+x+xIsn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal? This is a fair point, and reminds us of the old saying about one person's terrorist being another's freedom fighter. However, I still believe Antifa are far more problematic than what the media would let us believe. Maybe not the people themselves, but the puppetmasters behind the scenes. But the literal Nazis at Charlottesville aren't? You do know the vast majority of domestic terrorist acts in the US were carried out by right wing nutjobs? You do know that? https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1I'm not saying the left gets a free pass here but you're deluded if you don't think the right is as, if not more, dangerous than the left. (90 per cent of private militia in the US are right wingers for example.) So yeah cut the bullshit. Show me any post of mine where I argued that right wing nutjobs are acceptable. You didn't but you intimated the biggest danger is the far left when statistics and actual acts of terrorism bear out that it's the far right who are more dangerous. I'd have more time for your arguments if you didn't make ridiculous statements that are polar opposite to the truth.
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+x+x+x+xIsn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal? This is a fair point, and reminds us of the old saying about one person's terrorist being another's freedom fighter. However, I still believe Antifa are far more problematic than what the media would let us believe. Maybe not the people themselves, but the puppetmasters behind the scenes. But the literal Nazis at Charlottesville aren't? You do know the vast majority of domestic terrorist acts in the US were carried out by right wing nutjobs? You do know that? https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1I'm not saying the left gets a free pass here but you're deluded if you don't think the right is as, if not more, dangerous than the left. (90 per cent of private militia in the US are right wingers for example.) So yeah cut the bullshit. I think you will find though that the all sides of politics roundly condemn right wing extremism and terrorism, while Antifa not only get a free pass but are passively supported by the left media. Stories of Antifa bashing, spitting, stalking and threatening noted conservatives rarely draw the ire of the left wing press who instead often find ways to defend their actions and insinuate them as some sort of freedom fighters fighting Trump fascsim. Antifa would be terrorists if they werent a bunch of scraggly haired feral pussies who wouldnt know how to fire a gun , so they instead resort to congregating in large groups, wearing masks, spitting on people and starting fires so they feel big and mighty. What a load of shit. Get a free pass. Fucking turn on the TV, listen to the radio, open a book. Next you'll be saying the only reason right wingers commit more domestic terrorist acts is because they're smarter and more capable. Fucks sake.
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+xIf trump wins I think that country will be in civil war. I don’t care about the two sides I just want everyone to get along I think it's more likely to be a civil war if he loses. He'll be straight onto twitter declaring the result invalid, which will serve to rile up his cult.
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+x+x+x+x+xIsn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal? This is a fair point, and reminds us of the old saying about one person's terrorist being another's freedom fighter. However, I still believe Antifa are far more problematic than what the media would let us believe. Maybe not the people themselves, but the puppetmasters behind the scenes. But the literal Nazis at Charlottesville aren't? You do know the vast majority of domestic terrorist acts in the US were carried out by right wing nutjobs? You do know that? https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1I'm not saying the left gets a free pass here but you're deluded if you don't think the right is as, if not more, dangerous than the left. (90 per cent of private militia in the US are right wingers for example.) So yeah cut the bullshit. Show me any post of mine where I argued that right wing nutjobs are acceptable. You didn't but you intimated the biggest danger is the far left when statistics and actual acts of terrorism bear out that it's the far right who are more dangerous. I'd have more time for your arguments if you didn't make ridiculous statements that are polar opposite to the truth. That's fine. If you want to take my comments out of context, I'd prefer that you don't read them.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xIsn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal? This is a fair point, and reminds us of the old saying about one person's terrorist being another's freedom fighter. However, I still believe Antifa are far more problematic than what the media would let us believe. Maybe not the people themselves, but the puppetmasters behind the scenes. But the literal Nazis at Charlottesville aren't? You do know the vast majority of domestic terrorist acts in the US were carried out by right wing nutjobs? You do know that? https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1I'm not saying the left gets a free pass here but you're deluded if you don't think the right is as, if not more, dangerous than the left. (90 per cent of private militia in the US are right wingers for example.) So yeah cut the bullshit. Show me any post of mine where I argued that right wing nutjobs are acceptable. You didn't but you intimated the biggest danger is the far left when statistics and actual acts of terrorism bear out that it's the far right who are more dangerous. I'd have more time for your arguments if you didn't make ridiculous statements that are polar opposite to the truth. That's fine. If you want to take my comments out of context, I'd prefer that you don't read them. To be honest I'd love you to expand on your George Soros is funding Antica ones from previous posts.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xSadly I dont think the left and right can ever reconcile. Rather than condemning the totally unjustified and inexcusable riots and looting, the left is more interested in trying to make Trump look bad. Whether its covid, riots, Russian interference, shooting massacres, everything is always Donald Trumps fault. Trump blaming is full time job for leftists, with triple overtime. If you read CNN you wont find a single article condemning those individuals participating in the riots, just excuse after excuse and article after article trying to inflict damage on Trump. If there’s something we can all agree on it should be that setting cities on fire, destroying businesses and attacking police is wrong, however many leftists, even those on here, are secretly delighted by whats going on, and when we cant even agree on the most basic moral principles that is why the left and right can never reconcile. Go to their YouTube channel. They've had plenty of people on condemning the the looting. What's your opinion on the death of George Floyd? All I read is you complaining about the looting. Lets discuss George Floyd. Every week African Americans shoot unarmed white people and no one gives a shit. No protests, no looting, no anti black American feeding frenzy for the actions of minorites. Stats also show blacks are far more likely to kill unarmed whites than the other way around. Feel bad for Floyd but the statistics do not show racial bias in the use lethal police force. The chap who did it is probably a murderer but that does not prove a racist motive, not does it make the entire police force guilty of systemic racism and oppression, in the same way that when a black kills an unarmed white does not make the entire black community murderers. Ultimately the problem boils down to the mainstream medias narrow obsessive focus on police killings on unarmed blacks, reinforcing fake BLM narrative while omitting important contextual facts such as, 1. police kill more unarmed whites every year than unarmed blacks, 2. if you’re black you’re more likely to be killed by a fellow black than a member of police, 3. police brutality resulting in death is particularly rare. The way the media covers these stories, while supporting fake narratives like BLM infers that police killings such as George Floyd happen frequently and must be racially motivated. At the end of the day George Floyd is one person and one particular incident does not prove the BLM narrative that cops deliberately set out to kill blacks. Its bullshit and the media is guilty of perpetuating these myths and stoking fear, paranoia and resentment which has now manifested in these unjustified riots and opportunistic looting under the guise of justice for George Floyd. Paragraph 1: Please send me your sources for these statistics. I'm not going to argue with you about them because I personally don't have the numbers. I'd be curious to see them. Paragraph 2: Not sure what statistics you are using but here are a few things you need to remember. Check out why the 13th Amendment was created and how the police force, FBI, etc used it to disadvantage the African American population. Check out why electorate collage was created. Understand the history of America, slavery and how the African American community has been targeted ever since slavery was banned. Check out the the economic differences between white and African American families (white familes average almost $1 million in assets whilst African American families average $17k). What do you define as rare? Last year 1,099 people were killed by the police in the USA. That's 1,099 too many for me. Over 1,000 are killed on average. Police have a duty to protect the people and de-escalate every situation. Paragraph 3: Please tell me why it's ok for police officers to do the white power sign? Please tell me why cops avoid conviction when they kill someone? Please tell me why it's ok for an ex police officer to follow Ahmaud Arbery for 4 minutes before his son shot him dead and be free for months before video footage came out? Please tell me why it's ok for police to enter the wrong house and kill Breonna Taylor with no consequences? These are just the cases from 2020. Brother, read a book or two. Search Results 1. www.google.com The signature move by a bad faith debater/keyboard warrior. Closely followed by 'I'm not here to do your research for you.' Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof. You made the claim Rusty, the onus of proof is on you. You are beyond a joke now. Are you Andrew Bolt in disguise? I think we are wasting our time with him. It is clear where he stands. Good luck to him and his family.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIsn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal? This is a fair point, and reminds us of the old saying about one person's terrorist being another's freedom fighter. However, I still believe Antifa are far more problematic than what the media would let us believe. Maybe not the people themselves, but the puppetmasters behind the scenes. But the literal Nazis at Charlottesville aren't? You do know the vast majority of domestic terrorist acts in the US were carried out by right wing nutjobs? You do know that? https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1I'm not saying the left gets a free pass here but you're deluded if you don't think the right is as, if not more, dangerous than the left. (90 per cent of private militia in the US are right wingers for example.) So yeah cut the bullshit. Show me any post of mine where I argued that right wing nutjobs are acceptable. You didn't but you intimated the biggest danger is the far left when statistics and actual acts of terrorism bear out that it's the far right who are more dangerous. I'd have more time for your arguments if you didn't make ridiculous statements that are polar opposite to the truth. That's fine. If you want to take my comments out of context, I'd prefer that you don't read them. To be honest I'd love you to expand on your George Soros is funding Antica ones from previous posts. I'm happy to do this for those who ask in good faith.
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+x+x+x+x+xIsn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal? This is a fair point, and reminds us of the old saying about one person's terrorist being another's freedom fighter. However, I still believe Antifa are far more problematic than what the media would let us believe. Maybe not the people themselves, but the puppetmasters behind the scenes. But the literal Nazis at Charlottesville aren't? You do know the vast majority of domestic terrorist acts in the US were carried out by right wing nutjobs? You do know that? https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1I'm not saying the left gets a free pass here but you're deluded if you don't think the right is as, if not more, dangerous than the left. (90 per cent of private militia in the US are right wingers for example.) So yeah cut the bullshit. I think you will find though that the all sides of politics roundly condemn right wing extremism and terrorism, while Antifa not only get a free pass but are passively supported by the left media. Stories of Antifa bashing, spitting, stalking and threatening noted conservatives rarely draw the ire of the left wing press who instead often find ways to defend their actions and insinuate them as some sort of freedom fighters fighting Trump fascsim. Antifa would be terrorists if they werent a bunch of scraggly haired feral pussies who wouldnt know how to fire a gun , so they instead resort to congregating in large groups, wearing masks, spitting on people and starting fires so they feel big and mighty. What a load of shit. Get a free pass. Fucking turn on the TV, listen to the radio, open a book. Next you'll be saying the only reason right wingers commit more domestic terrorist acts is because they're smarter and more capable. Fucks sake. I can only assume you dont read or watch enough news. The left media has given Antifa a free pass for years, there has been very little, if any, outright condemnation of antifa from left wing journalists and politicians. I know this because I follow news from a variety of sources like CNN and Guardian, whereas you presumably get your news from the betoota advocate. Even now, while America is burning, there is a concerted attempt to play down Antifa involvement and use it against Donald Trump. All you have to do is google Antifa in the Google news search results and these were the first results that came up. 1. The FBI finds ‘ no intel indicating Antifa involvement’ in Sunday’s violence 2. How ‘Antifa’ became a Trump call-all 3. Trumps threats to Antifa are an affront black agency 4. Donald Trump’s ‘Antifa’ hysteria is absurd 5. Antifa rumours spread on social media with no evidence 6. Facebook takes down white nationalist and fake Antifa accounts 7. Donald Trump calls them terrorists , but many Antifa see themselves as ordinary citzens fighting oppression, racism and police brutality (that one from the FUCKING ABC! 😂) 8. Donald Trumps Antifa obsession a constitutional distraction 9. Antifa is not the problem here Even the AG of Minnesota posed for a photo with the Antifa bible; the anti fascist handbook, a book that advocates violence against fascists, and regards Trump and anyone who supports Trump a fascist. Not only did the AG keep his job, I couldnt find a SINGLE article or quote from a left wing news source or politician condemning the AG. Clearly Muz you live with your head inside your asshole and you have no fucking idea how the press manipulate imbeciles like yourself into thinking Trump is to blame for everything and the left bear no responsibility for the current state of affairs.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xSadly I dont think the left and right can ever reconcile. Rather than condemning the totally unjustified and inexcusable riots and looting, the left is more interested in trying to make Trump look bad. Whether its covid, riots, Russian interference, shooting massacres, everything is always Donald Trumps fault. Trump blaming is full time job for leftists, with triple overtime. If you read CNN you wont find a single article condemning those individuals participating in the riots, just excuse after excuse and article after article trying to inflict damage on Trump. If there’s something we can all agree on it should be that setting cities on fire, destroying businesses and attacking police is wrong, however many leftists, even those on here, are secretly delighted by whats going on, and when we cant even agree on the most basic moral principles that is why the left and right can never reconcile. Go to their YouTube channel. They've had plenty of people on condemning the the looting. What's your opinion on the death of George Floyd? All I read is you complaining about the looting. Lets discuss George Floyd. Every week African Americans shoot unarmed white people and no one gives a shit. No protests, no looting, no anti black American feeding frenzy for the actions of minorites. Stats also show blacks are far more likely to kill unarmed whites than the other way around. Feel bad for Floyd but the statistics do not show racial bias in the use lethal police force. The chap who did it is probably a murderer but that does not prove a racist motive, not does it make the entire police force guilty of systemic racism and oppression, in the same way that when a black kills an unarmed white does not make the entire black community murderers. Ultimately the problem boils down to the mainstream medias narrow obsessive focus on police killings on unarmed blacks, reinforcing fake BLM narrative while omitting important contextual facts such as, 1. police kill more unarmed whites every year than unarmed blacks, 2. if you’re black you’re more likely to be killed by a fellow black than a member of police, 3. police brutality resulting in death is particularly rare. The way the media covers these stories, while supporting fake narratives like BLM infers that police killings such as George Floyd happen frequently and must be racially motivated. At the end of the day George Floyd is one person and one particular incident does not prove the BLM narrative that cops deliberately set out to kill blacks. Its bullshit and the media is guilty of perpetuating these myths and stoking fear, paranoia and resentment which has now manifested in these unjustified riots and opportunistic looting under the guise of justice for George Floyd. Paragraph 1: Please send me your sources for these statistics. I'm not going to argue with you about them because I personally don't have the numbers. I'd be curious to see them. Paragraph 2: Not sure what statistics you are using but here are a few things you need to remember. Check out why the 13th Amendment was created and how the police force, FBI, etc used it to disadvantage the African American population. Check out why electorate collage was created. Understand the history of America, slavery and how the African American community has been targeted ever since slavery was banned. Check out the the economic differences between white and African American families (white familes average almost $1 million in assets whilst African American families average $17k). What do you define as rare? Last year 1,099 people were killed by the police in the USA. That's 1,099 too many for me. Over 1,000 are killed on average. Police have a duty to protect the people and de-escalate every situation. Paragraph 3: Please tell me why it's ok for police officers to do the white power sign? Please tell me why cops avoid conviction when they kill someone? Please tell me why it's ok for an ex police officer to follow Ahmaud Arbery for 4 minutes before his son shot him dead and be free for months before video footage came out? Please tell me why it's ok for police to enter the wrong house and kill Breonna Taylor with no consequences? These are just the cases from 2020. Brother, read a book or two. Search Results 1. www.google.com The signature move by a bad faith debater/keyboard warrior. Closely followed by 'I'm not here to do your research for you.' Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof. You made the claim Rusty, the onus of proof is on you. You are beyond a joke now. Are you Andrew Bolt in disguise? How about the the claim there is systemic racism, oppression and subjugation of African Americans by police? Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof right?
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as greta would say green lives matter
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jon snow channel 4 wont be reporting on the news about the support march in london, as there were "so many white faces " is what he is famous for at a brexit march, must very difficult for the photographers to get a black face in the pictures of the uk protest.
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+x+x+x+xIsn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal? A person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. That above is the exact definition straight off Google. Antifa tick all those boxes, not only attacking civilians, but the police too. Sounds like Trump and every US administration that invaded other nations. Oh come on. I'm by no means a Trump sympathiser and understand why some people might dislike him. That's fine, but let's at least use facts when discussing his policies. Like most people I was genuinely fearful that Trump's not insubstantial ego and blunt manner would be a foreign policy disaster, leading to endless invasions. To my surprise, his administration have defied the war mongering Deep State neo-cons and hawks. Given who owns 90% of the US media, I can now see why they hate him so much. North Korea don’t seem to be a problem anymore. One of the first countries he visited was Saudi Arabia, After this, the Saudis arrested around 300 officials involved in human trafficking. Saudi Arabia is notorious for paedophilia and child trafficking, although I'm sure it hasn't completely solved the problem. The neocons baited him to invade Iran but thankfully common sense prevailed. Now they're pulling troops out of Afghanistan. Perhaps a bit late, but a step in the right direction. Compare this to Obama. I had such high hopes that he would help unite humanity, but completed his 8 years as the greatest disappointment of my lifetime. His administration bombed at least 7 countries and interfered in the politics of many others such as Ukraine, seemingly trying to create WW3 with Russia. Don't even mention the Bushes. Pure evil, with the MSM not even questioning the invasion of Iraq. The media never mention Trump's achievements such as the dramatic increase in arrests of paedophiles and human traffickers, as well as fighting criminal gangs such as MS-13, but I've never seen a President in my lifetime openly hated by the media even before entering the White House. Anyone who can't see this is either blind or part of the system. Excellent post, there's no comeback to this. I think sometimes the truth hurts people too much, to the point they need to lie to themselves and others to feel better.
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+x+x+x+x+xIsn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal? A person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. That above is the exact definition straight off Google. Antifa tick all those boxes, not only attacking civilians, but the police too. Sounds like Trump and every US administration that invaded other nations. Oh come on. I'm by no means a Trump sympathiser and understand why some people might dislike him. That's fine, but let's at least use facts when discussing his policies. Like most people I was genuinely fearful that Trump's not insubstantial ego and blunt manner would be a foreign policy disaster, leading to endless invasions. To my surprise, his administration have defied the war mongering Deep State neo-cons and hawks. Given who owns 90% of the US media, I can now see why they hate him so much. North Korea don’t seem to be a problem anymore. One of the first countries he visited was Saudi Arabia, After this, the Saudis arrested around 300 officials involved in human trafficking. Saudi Arabia is notorious for paedophilia and child trafficking, although I'm sure it hasn't completely solved the problem. The neocons baited him to invade Iran but thankfully common sense prevailed. Now they're pulling troops out of Afghanistan. Perhaps a bit late, but a step in the right direction. Compare this to Obama. I had such high hopes that he would help unite humanity, but completed his 8 years as the greatest disappointment of my lifetime. His administration bombed at least 7 countries and interfered in the politics of many others such as Ukraine, seemingly trying to create WW3 with Russia. Don't even mention the Bushes. Pure evil, with the MSM not even questioning the invasion of Iraq. The media never mention Trump's achievements such as the dramatic increase in arrests of paedophiles and human traffickers, as well as fighting criminal gangs such as MS-13, but I've never seen a President in my lifetime openly hated by the media even before entering the White House. Anyone who can't see this is either blind or part of the system. Excellent post, there's no comeback to this. I think sometimes the truth hurts people too much, to the point they need to lie to themselves and others to feel better. Oh. Well if you say so. Game over then. Christ on a bike. I could spend an hour refuting the above so hardly 'no comeback'. But anyway just on Obama alone. Was president with a GOP house and senate which hamstrung him no end in getting anything done yet managed to still achieve a heap. Turned the economy around and restored the car industry. Tried to introduce gun control but was blocked at every turn. Introduced Obamacare and brought health care insurance to tens of millions that didn't have it previously despite vociferous opposition. Tried to stem Russian aggression and annexations of Crimea and the Ukraine. You could spend hours listing what Obama achieved and what Trump hasn't but your mind is made up and as a perfect riposte to your 'arguments need to be brought out into the open' what is the point of trying to change your mind? Trump could shoot someone in the street and people still would vote for him.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xIsn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal? This is a fair point, and reminds us of the old saying about one person's terrorist being another's freedom fighter. However, I still believe Antifa are far more problematic than what the media would let us believe. Maybe not the people themselves, but the puppetmasters behind the scenes. But the literal Nazis at Charlottesville aren't? You do know the vast majority of domestic terrorist acts in the US were carried out by right wing nutjobs? You do know that? https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1I'm not saying the left gets a free pass here but you're deluded if you don't think the right is as, if not more, dangerous than the left. (90 per cent of private militia in the US are right wingers for example.) So yeah cut the bullshit. Show me any post of mine where I argued that right wing nutjobs are acceptable. You didn't but you intimated the biggest danger is the far left when statistics and actual acts of terrorism bear out that it's the far right who are more dangerous. I'd have more time for your arguments if you didn't make ridiculous statements that are polar opposite to the truth. That's fine. If you want to take my comments out of context, I'd prefer that you don't read them. Here.... "Antifa are far, far more dangerous than you're representing, given their propensity for violence and destruction over the years. Many of them may look like basement dwelling losers, but considering some of their tactics over the years - and some of the people who have funded them - this is far from being a peaceful group. Incidentally, many Antifa types have recently been captured on video spray painting "BLM" on various buildings, caught in the act by understandably pissed-off BLM members. What are these people trying to achieve other than race wars? Check out the views of ex-BLM member and Ferguson organiser Chaziel Sunz. "and here.... (with a side of conspiracy.) "Looks like Antifa have finally been recognised as a terrorist organisation. Interestingly, pallets of bricks have been left on various street corners with no construction sites nearby, as well as 'drink bottles' containing gasoline.Wonder who's funding this mayhem? and here. (with conspiracy for dessert.) "However, I still believe Antifa are far more problematic than what the media would let us believe. Maybe not the people themselves, but the puppetmasters behind the scenes." It's a FACT that right wingers are responsible for the vast majority of domestic terrorist acts. (At a rate of about 10:1) And yet all you talk about is 'the left'. It's ironic that you and Rob are telling people to 'open their eyes' all the while with yours welded shut.
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+x+xIf trump wins I think that country will be in civil war. I don’t care about the two sides I just want everyone to get along I think it's more likely to be a civil war if he loses. He'll be straight onto twitter declaring the result invalid, which will serve to rile up his cult. I actually can't see him accepting defeat. I don't think his ego will allow it. I think he will leave peacefully, having had his fun destroying the country, but there is no way that he will accept the result and he'll tweet about it for the rest of his days.
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+x+x+xIf trump wins I think that country will be in civil war. I don’t care about the two sides I just want everyone to get along I think it's more likely to be a civil war if he loses. He'll be straight onto twitter declaring the result invalid, which will serve to rile up his cult. I actually can't see him accepting defeat. I don't think his ego will allow it. I think he will leave peacefully, having had his fun destroying the country, but there is no way that he will accept the result and he'll tweet about it for the rest of his days. “Hey lets go and loot shops and set fire to cop cars” ”But thats wrong and illegal” ”But Trump is making us do it, everything is his fault, we can blame him for everything!” ”Fuck yeah lets burn this mu’fuckin’ country down”
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+x+x+x+x+x+xIsn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal? A person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. That above is the exact definition straight off Google. Antifa tick all those boxes, not only attacking civilians, but the police too. Sounds like Trump and every US administration that invaded other nations. Oh come on. I'm by no means a Trump sympathiser and understand why some people might dislike him. That's fine, but let's at least use facts when discussing his policies. Like most people I was genuinely fearful that Trump's not insubstantial ego and blunt manner would be a foreign policy disaster, leading to endless invasions. To my surprise, his administration have defied the war mongering Deep State neo-cons and hawks. Given who owns 90% of the US media, I can now see why they hate him so much. North Korea don’t seem to be a problem anymore. One of the first countries he visited was Saudi Arabia, After this, the Saudis arrested around 300 officials involved in human trafficking. Saudi Arabia is notorious for paedophilia and child trafficking, although I'm sure it hasn't completely solved the problem. The neocons baited him to invade Iran but thankfully common sense prevailed. Now they're pulling troops out of Afghanistan. Perhaps a bit late, but a step in the right direction. Compare this to Obama. I had such high hopes that he would help unite humanity, but completed his 8 years as the greatest disappointment of my lifetime. His administration bombed at least 7 countries and interfered in the politics of many others such as Ukraine, seemingly trying to create WW3 with Russia. Don't even mention the Bushes. Pure evil, with the MSM not even questioning the invasion of Iraq. The media never mention Trump's achievements such as the dramatic increase in arrests of paedophiles and human traffickers, as well as fighting criminal gangs such as MS-13, but I've never seen a President in my lifetime openly hated by the media even before entering the White House. Anyone who can't see this is either blind or part of the system. Excellent post, there's no comeback to this. I think sometimes the truth hurts people too much, to the point they need to lie to themselves and others to feel better. Oh. Well if you say so. Game over then. Christ on a bike. I could spend an hour refuting the above so hardly 'no comeback'. But anyway just on Obama alone. Was president with a GOP house and senate which hamstrung him no end in getting anything done yet managed to still achieve a heap. Turned the economy around and restored the car industry. Tried to introduce gun control but was blocked at every turn. Introduced Obamacare and brought health care insurance to tens of millions that didn't have it previously despite vociferous opposition. Tried to stem Russian aggression and annexations of Crimea and the Ukraine. You could spend hours listing what Obama achieved and what Trump hasn't but your mind is made up and as a perfect riposte to your 'arguments need to be brought out into the open' what is the point of trying to change your mind? Trump could shoot someone in the street and people still would vote for him. You didn't answer shit, you side tracked everything. We're talking about the invading countries comment. Trump hasn't invaded any country since he's been president, Obama and those before him did. Muz stop going off topic.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIsn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal? A person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. That above is the exact definition straight off Google. Antifa tick all those boxes, not only attacking civilians, but the police too. Sounds like Trump and every US administration that invaded other nations. Oh come on. I'm by no means a Trump sympathiser and understand why some people might dislike him. That's fine, but let's at least use facts when discussing his policies. Like most people I was genuinely fearful that Trump's not insubstantial ego and blunt manner would be a foreign policy disaster, leading to endless invasions. To my surprise, his administration have defied the war mongering Deep State neo-cons and hawks. Given who owns 90% of the US media, I can now see why they hate him so much. North Korea don’t seem to be a problem anymore. One of the first countries he visited was Saudi Arabia, After this, the Saudis arrested around 300 officials involved in human trafficking. Saudi Arabia is notorious for paedophilia and child trafficking, although I'm sure it hasn't completely solved the problem. The neocons baited him to invade Iran but thankfully common sense prevailed. Now they're pulling troops out of Afghanistan. Perhaps a bit late, but a step in the right direction. Compare this to Obama. I had such high hopes that he would help unite humanity, but completed his 8 years as the greatest disappointment of my lifetime. His administration bombed at least 7 countries and interfered in the politics of many others such as Ukraine, seemingly trying to create WW3 with Russia. Don't even mention the Bushes. Pure evil, with the MSM not even questioning the invasion of Iraq. The media never mention Trump's achievements such as the dramatic increase in arrests of paedophiles and human traffickers, as well as fighting criminal gangs such as MS-13, but I've never seen a President in my lifetime openly hated by the media even before entering the White House. Anyone who can't see this is either blind or part of the system. Excellent post, there's no comeback to this. I think sometimes the truth hurts people too much, to the point they need to lie to themselves and others to feel better. Oh. Well if you say so. Game over then. Christ on a bike. I could spend an hour refuting the above so hardly 'no comeback'. But anyway just on Obama alone. Was president with a GOP house and senate which hamstrung him no end in getting anything done yet managed to still achieve a heap. Turned the economy around and restored the car industry. Tried to introduce gun control but was blocked at every turn. Introduced Obamacare and brought health care insurance to tens of millions that didn't have it previously despite vociferous opposition. Tried to stem Russian aggression and annexations of Crimea and the Ukraine. You could spend hours listing what Obama achieved and what Trump hasn't but your mind is made up and as a perfect riposte to your 'arguments need to be brought out into the open' what is the point of trying to change your mind? Trump could shoot someone in the street and people still would vote for him. You didn't answer shit, you side tracked everything. We're talking about the invading countries comment. Trump hasn't invaded any country since he's been president, Obama and those before him did. Muz stop going off topic. Sorry but what country did Obama invade? Airstrikes yes, drone strikes yes. Invasion? No. But on the matter of drone strikes. https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/5/8/18619206/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbershttps://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/projects/drone-warOnly 40 a day. https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2019-10-29/us-strike-figures-further-intensification-of-air-war-afghanistan
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+x+x+x+x+x+xIsn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal? This is a fair point, and reminds us of the old saying about one person's terrorist being another's freedom fighter. However, I still believe Antifa are far more problematic than what the media would let us believe. Maybe not the people themselves, but the puppetmasters behind the scenes. But the literal Nazis at Charlottesville aren't? You do know the vast majority of domestic terrorist acts in the US were carried out by right wing nutjobs? You do know that? https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1I'm not saying the left gets a free pass here but you're deluded if you don't think the right is as, if not more, dangerous than the left. (90 per cent of private militia in the US are right wingers for example.) So yeah cut the bullshit. I think you will find though that the all sides of politics roundly condemn right wing extremism and terrorism, while Antifa not only get a free pass but are passively supported by the left media. Stories of Antifa bashing, spitting, stalking and threatening noted conservatives rarely draw the ire of the left wing press who instead often find ways to defend their actions and insinuate them as some sort of freedom fighters fighting Trump fascsim. Antifa would be terrorists if they werent a bunch of scraggly haired feral pussies who wouldnt know how to fire a gun , so they instead resort to congregating in large groups, wearing masks, spitting on people and starting fires so they feel big and mighty. What a load of shit. Get a free pass. Fucking turn on the TV, listen to the radio, open a book. Next you'll be saying the only reason right wingers commit more domestic terrorist acts is because they're smarter and more capable. Fucks sake. I can only assume you dont read or watch enough news. The left media has given Antifa a free pass for years, there has been very little, if any, outright condemnation of antifa from left wing journalists and politicians. I know this because I follow news from a variety of sources like CNN and Guardian, whereas you presumably get your news from the betoota advocate. Even now, while America is burning, there is a concerted attempt to play down Antifa involvement and use it against Donald Trump. All you have to do is google Antifa in the Google news search results and these were the first results that came up. 1. The FBI finds ‘ no intel indicating Antifa involvement’ in Sunday’s violence 2. How ‘Antifa’ became a Trump call-all 3. Trumps threats to Antifa are an affront black agency 4. Donald Trump’s ‘Antifa’ hysteria is absurd 5. Antifa rumours spread on social media with no evidence 6. Facebook takes down white nationalist and fake Antifa accounts 7. Donald Trump calls them terrorists , but many Antifa see themselves as ordinary citzens fighting oppression, racism and police brutality (that one from the FUCKING ABC! 😂) 8. Donald Trumps Antifa obsession a constitutional distraction 9. Antifa is not the problem here Even the AG of Minnesota posed for a photo with the Antifa bible; the anti fascist handbook, a book that advocates violence against fascists, and regards Trump and anyone who supports Trump a fascist. Not only did the AG keep his job, I couldnt find a SINGLE article or quote from a left wing news source or politician condemning the AG. Clearly Muz you live with your head inside your asshole and you have no fucking idea how the press manipulate imbeciles like yourself into thinking Trump is to blame for everything and the left bear no responsibility for the current state of affairs. In case you missed it the first time the actual, real, tangible, realised threat is from the right not the left. https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1But if you dog whistle loud enough clowns that would let Trump shoot someone in broad daylight and still vote for him will lap it up.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIsn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal? A person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. That above is the exact definition straight off Google. Antifa tick all those boxes, not only attacking civilians, but the police too. Sounds like Trump and every US administration that invaded other nations. Oh come on. I'm by no means a Trump sympathiser and understand why some people might dislike him. That's fine, but let's at least use facts when discussing his policies. Like most people I was genuinely fearful that Trump's not insubstantial ego and blunt manner would be a foreign policy disaster, leading to endless invasions. To my surprise, his administration have defied the war mongering Deep State neo-cons and hawks. Given who owns 90% of the US media, I can now see why they hate him so much. North Korea don’t seem to be a problem anymore. One of the first countries he visited was Saudi Arabia, After this, the Saudis arrested around 300 officials involved in human trafficking. Saudi Arabia is notorious for paedophilia and child trafficking, although I'm sure it hasn't completely solved the problem. The neocons baited him to invade Iran but thankfully common sense prevailed. Now they're pulling troops out of Afghanistan. Perhaps a bit late, but a step in the right direction. Compare this to Obama. I had such high hopes that he would help unite humanity, but completed his 8 years as the greatest disappointment of my lifetime. His administration bombed at least 7 countries and interfered in the politics of many others such as Ukraine, seemingly trying to create WW3 with Russia. Don't even mention the Bushes. Pure evil, with the MSM not even questioning the invasion of Iraq. The media never mention Trump's achievements such as the dramatic increase in arrests of paedophiles and human traffickers, as well as fighting criminal gangs such as MS-13, but I've never seen a President in my lifetime openly hated by the media even before entering the White House. Anyone who can't see this is either blind or part of the system. Excellent post, there's no comeback to this. I think sometimes the truth hurts people too much, to the point they need to lie to themselves and others to feel better. Oh. Well if you say so. Game over then. Christ on a bike. I could spend an hour refuting the above so hardly 'no comeback'. But anyway just on Obama alone. Was president with a GOP house and senate which hamstrung him no end in getting anything done yet managed to still achieve a heap. Turned the economy around and restored the car industry. Tried to introduce gun control but was blocked at every turn. Introduced Obamacare and brought health care insurance to tens of millions that didn't have it previously despite vociferous opposition. Tried to stem Russian aggression and annexations of Crimea and the Ukraine. You could spend hours listing what Obama achieved and what Trump hasn't but your mind is made up and as a perfect riposte to your 'arguments need to be brought out into the open' what is the point of trying to change your mind? Trump could shoot someone in the street and people still would vote for him. You didn't answer shit, you side tracked everything. We're talking about the invading countries comment. Trump hasn't invaded any country since he's been president, Obama and those before him did. Muz stop going off topic. Sorry but what country did Obama invade? Airstrikes yes, drone strikes yes. Invasion? No. But on the matter of drone strikes. https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/5/8/18619206/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbershttps://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/projects/drone-warOnly 40 a day. https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2019-10-29/us-strike-figures-further-intensification-of-air-war-afghanistan Well what country did Trump invade?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIsn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal? A person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. That above is the exact definition straight off Google. Antifa tick all those boxes, not only attacking civilians, but the police too. Sounds like Trump and every US administration that invaded other nations. Oh come on. I'm by no means a Trump sympathiser and understand why some people might dislike him. That's fine, but let's at least use facts when discussing his policies. Like most people I was genuinely fearful that Trump's not insubstantial ego and blunt manner would be a foreign policy disaster, leading to endless invasions. To my surprise, his administration have defied the war mongering Deep State neo-cons and hawks. Given who owns 90% of the US media, I can now see why they hate him so much. North Korea don’t seem to be a problem anymore. One of the first countries he visited was Saudi Arabia, After this, the Saudis arrested around 300 officials involved in human trafficking. Saudi Arabia is notorious for paedophilia and child trafficking, although I'm sure it hasn't completely solved the problem. The neocons baited him to invade Iran but thankfully common sense prevailed. Now they're pulling troops out of Afghanistan. Perhaps a bit late, but a step in the right direction. Compare this to Obama. I had such high hopes that he would help unite humanity, but completed his 8 years as the greatest disappointment of my lifetime. His administration bombed at least 7 countries and interfered in the politics of many others such as Ukraine, seemingly trying to create WW3 with Russia. Don't even mention the Bushes. Pure evil, with the MSM not even questioning the invasion of Iraq. The media never mention Trump's achievements such as the dramatic increase in arrests of paedophiles and human traffickers, as well as fighting criminal gangs such as MS-13, but I've never seen a President in my lifetime openly hated by the media even before entering the White House. Anyone who can't see this is either blind or part of the system. Excellent post, there's no comeback to this. I think sometimes the truth hurts people too much, to the point they need to lie to themselves and others to feel better. Oh. Well if you say so. Game over then. Christ on a bike. I could spend an hour refuting the above so hardly 'no comeback'. But anyway just on Obama alone. Was president with a GOP house and senate which hamstrung him no end in getting anything done yet managed to still achieve a heap. Turned the economy around and restored the car industry. Tried to introduce gun control but was blocked at every turn. Introduced Obamacare and brought health care insurance to tens of millions that didn't have it previously despite vociferous opposition. Tried to stem Russian aggression and annexations of Crimea and the Ukraine. You could spend hours listing what Obama achieved and what Trump hasn't but your mind is made up and as a perfect riposte to your 'arguments need to be brought out into the open' what is the point of trying to change your mind? Trump could shoot someone in the street and people still would vote for him. You didn't answer shit, you side tracked everything. We're talking about the invading countries comment. Trump hasn't invaded any country since he's been president, Obama and those before him did. Muz stop going off topic. Sorry but what country did Obama invade? Airstrikes yes, drone strikes yes. Invasion? No. But on the matter of drone strikes. https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/5/8/18619206/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbershttps://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/projects/drone-warOnly 40 a day. https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2019-10-29/us-strike-figures-further-intensification-of-air-war-afghanistan Well what country did Trump invade? He hasn't but you are putting up Obama as someone who invaded countries and bombed others. (IE someone worse than Trump.) I've just showed you that (1) Obama invaded no one and (2) Trump has used drone strikes more than Obama. If you're trying to point Obama out for being the bad guy you clearly can't read or comprehend facts. Perhaps that's why you're an anti-vaxxer? They seem impervious to logic too.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIsn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal? This is a fair point, and reminds us of the old saying about one person's terrorist being another's freedom fighter. However, I still believe Antifa are far more problematic than what the media would let us believe. Maybe not the people themselves, but the puppetmasters behind the scenes. But the literal Nazis at Charlottesville aren't? You do know the vast majority of domestic terrorist acts in the US were carried out by right wing nutjobs? You do know that? https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1I'm not saying the left gets a free pass here but you're deluded if you don't think the right is as, if not more, dangerous than the left. (90 per cent of private militia in the US are right wingers for example.) So yeah cut the bullshit. Show me any post of mine where I argued that right wing nutjobs are acceptable. You didn't but you intimated the biggest danger is the far left when statistics and actual acts of terrorism bear out that it's the far right who are more dangerous. I'd have more time for your arguments if you didn't make ridiculous statements that are polar opposite to the truth. That's fine. If you want to take my comments out of context, I'd prefer that you don't read them. To be honest I'd love you to expand on your George Soros is funding Antica ones from previous posts. I'm happy to do this for those who ask in good faith. Post away.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xSadly I dont think the left and right can ever reconcile. Rather than condemning the totally unjustified and inexcusable riots and looting, the left is more interested in trying to make Trump look bad. Whether its covid, riots, Russian interference, shooting massacres, everything is always Donald Trumps fault. Trump blaming is full time job for leftists, with triple overtime. If you read CNN you wont find a single article condemning those individuals participating in the riots, just excuse after excuse and article after article trying to inflict damage on Trump. If there’s something we can all agree on it should be that setting cities on fire, destroying businesses and attacking police is wrong, however many leftists, even those on here, are secretly delighted by whats going on, and when we cant even agree on the most basic moral principles that is why the left and right can never reconcile. Go to their YouTube channel. They've had plenty of people on condemning the the looting. What's your opinion on the death of George Floyd? All I read is you complaining about the looting. Lets discuss George Floyd. Every week African Americans shoot unarmed white people and no one gives a shit. No protests, no looting, no anti black American feeding frenzy for the actions of minorites. Stats also show blacks are far more likely to kill unarmed whites than the other way around. Feel bad for Floyd but the statistics do not show racial bias in the use lethal police force. The chap who did it is probably a murderer but that does not prove a racist motive, not does it make the entire police force guilty of systemic racism and oppression, in the same way that when a black kills an unarmed white does not make the entire black community murderers. Ultimately the problem boils down to the mainstream medias narrow obsessive focus on police killings on unarmed blacks, reinforcing fake BLM narrative while omitting important contextual facts such as, 1. police kill more unarmed whites every year than unarmed blacks, 2. if you’re black you’re more likely to be killed by a fellow black than a member of police, 3. police brutality resulting in death is particularly rare. The way the media covers these stories, while supporting fake narratives like BLM infers that police killings such as George Floyd happen frequently and must be racially motivated. At the end of the day George Floyd is one person and one particular incident does not prove the BLM narrative that cops deliberately set out to kill blacks. Its bullshit and the media is guilty of perpetuating these myths and stoking fear, paranoia and resentment which has now manifested in these unjustified riots and opportunistic looting under the guise of justice for George Floyd. Paragraph 1: Please send me your sources for these statistics. I'm not going to argue with you about them because I personally don't have the numbers. I'd be curious to see them. Paragraph 2: Not sure what statistics you are using but here are a few things you need to remember. Check out why the 13th Amendment was created and how the police force, FBI, etc used it to disadvantage the African American population. Check out why electorate collage was created. Understand the history of America, slavery and how the African American community has been targeted ever since slavery was banned. Check out the the economic differences between white and African American families (white familes average almost $1 million in assets whilst African American families average $17k). What do you define as rare? Last year 1,099 people were killed by the police in the USA. That's 1,099 too many for me. Over 1,000 are killed on average. Police have a duty to protect the people and de-escalate every situation. Paragraph 3: Please tell me why it's ok for police officers to do the white power sign? Please tell me why cops avoid conviction when they kill someone? Please tell me why it's ok for an ex police officer to follow Ahmaud Arbery for 4 minutes before his son shot him dead and be free for months before video footage came out? Please tell me why it's ok for police to enter the wrong house and kill Breonna Taylor with no consequences? These are just the cases from 2020. Brother, read a book or two. Search Results 1. www.google.com The signature move by a bad faith debater/keyboard warrior. Closely followed by 'I'm not here to do your research for you.' Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof. You made the claim Rusty, the onus of proof is on you. You are beyond a joke now. Are you Andrew Bolt in disguise? How about the the claim there is systemic racism, oppression and subjugation of African Americans by police? Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof right?
Already did on page 213. I mean there's only 3 here but seeing as you know how to google you can search your little heart out. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/09/18/theres-overwhelming-evidence-that-the-criminal-justice-system-is-racist-heres-the-proof/https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2020/05/28/police-shootings-black-americans-disproportionately-affected-infographic/#68ede41859f7https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/29/heres-why-we-dont-see-protests-when-police-unjustly-kill-white-people/
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIsn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal? A person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. That above is the exact definition straight off Google. Antifa tick all those boxes, not only attacking civilians, but the police too. Sounds like Trump and every US administration that invaded other nations. Oh come on. I'm by no means a Trump sympathiser and understand why some people might dislike him. That's fine, but let's at least use facts when discussing his policies. Like most people I was genuinely fearful that Trump's not insubstantial ego and blunt manner would be a foreign policy disaster, leading to endless invasions. To my surprise, his administration have defied the war mongering Deep State neo-cons and hawks. Given who owns 90% of the US media, I can now see why they hate him so much. North Korea don’t seem to be a problem anymore. One of the first countries he visited was Saudi Arabia, After this, the Saudis arrested around 300 officials involved in human trafficking. Saudi Arabia is notorious for paedophilia and child trafficking, although I'm sure it hasn't completely solved the problem. The neocons baited him to invade Iran but thankfully common sense prevailed. Now they're pulling troops out of Afghanistan. Perhaps a bit late, but a step in the right direction. Compare this to Obama. I had such high hopes that he would help unite humanity, but completed his 8 years as the greatest disappointment of my lifetime. His administration bombed at least 7 countries and interfered in the politics of many others such as Ukraine, seemingly trying to create WW3 with Russia. Don't even mention the Bushes. Pure evil, with the MSM not even questioning the invasion of Iraq. The media never mention Trump's achievements such as the dramatic increase in arrests of paedophiles and human traffickers, as well as fighting criminal gangs such as MS-13, but I've never seen a President in my lifetime openly hated by the media even before entering the White House. Anyone who can't see this is either blind or part of the system. Excellent post, there's no comeback to this. I think sometimes the truth hurts people too much, to the point they need to lie to themselves and others to feel better. Oh. Well if you say so. Game over then. Christ on a bike. I could spend an hour refuting the above so hardly 'no comeback'. But anyway just on Obama alone. Was president with a GOP house and senate which hamstrung him no end in getting anything done yet managed to still achieve a heap. Turned the economy around and restored the car industry. Tried to introduce gun control but was blocked at every turn. Introduced Obamacare and brought health care insurance to tens of millions that didn't have it previously despite vociferous opposition. Tried to stem Russian aggression and annexations of Crimea and the Ukraine. You could spend hours listing what Obama achieved and what Trump hasn't but your mind is made up and as a perfect riposte to your 'arguments need to be brought out into the open' what is the point of trying to change your mind? Trump could shoot someone in the street and people still would vote for him. You didn't answer shit, you side tracked everything. We're talking about the invading countries comment. Trump hasn't invaded any country since he's been president, Obama and those before him did. Muz stop going off topic. Sorry but what country did Obama invade? Airstrikes yes, drone strikes yes. Invasion? No. But on the matter of drone strikes. https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/5/8/18619206/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbershttps://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/projects/drone-warOnly 40 a day. https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2019-10-29/us-strike-figures-further-intensification-of-air-war-afghanistan Well what country did Trump invade? He hasn't but you are putting up Obama as someone who invaded countries and bombed others. (IE someone worse than Trump.) I've just showed you that (1) Obama invaded no one and (2) Trump has used drone strikes more than Obama.If you're trying to point Obama out for being the bad guy you clearly can't read or comprehend facts. Perhaps that's why you're an anti-vaxxer? They seem impervious to logic too. Well I thought I don't need facts when dealing someone else that doesn't need facts. I thought I could just talk shit. Trump was accused of being someone who is an invader. He hasn't done anything as such. It's not right is it when people talk shit. If you want to claim Trump has invaded a country, at least wait till he does. Let's not forget you were one claiming if he wins the election there will be WW3. Instead of being happy you got that wrong, it seems you're more angry he didn't turn out to be what you somehow hoped.
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BTW Muz, to qualify as an anti vaxer do you have to be against every vaccines out there, or even being against taking the flu shot is considered anti vaxer in your very biased opinion?
Would I be anti antibiotics if I refuse to take a certain antibiotic I think does more harm than good, even though I do take other antibiotics?
Can you answer this question without throwing another question, or even worse completely ignore the question and make up something that has absolutely nothing to do with this question.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIsn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal? A person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. That above is the exact definition straight off Google. Antifa tick all those boxes, not only attacking civilians, but the police too. Sounds like Trump and every US administration that invaded other nations. Oh come on. I'm by no means a Trump sympathiser and understand why some people might dislike him. That's fine, but let's at least use facts when discussing his policies. Like most people I was genuinely fearful that Trump's not insubstantial ego and blunt manner would be a foreign policy disaster, leading to endless invasions. To my surprise, his administration have defied the war mongering Deep State neo-cons and hawks. Given who owns 90% of the US media, I can now see why they hate him so much. North Korea don’t seem to be a problem anymore. One of the first countries he visited was Saudi Arabia, After this, the Saudis arrested around 300 officials involved in human trafficking. Saudi Arabia is notorious for paedophilia and child trafficking, although I'm sure it hasn't completely solved the problem. The neocons baited him to invade Iran but thankfully common sense prevailed. Now they're pulling troops out of Afghanistan. Perhaps a bit late, but a step in the right direction. Compare this to Obama. I had such high hopes that he would help unite humanity, but completed his 8 years as the greatest disappointment of my lifetime. His administration bombed at least 7 countries and interfered in the politics of many others such as Ukraine, seemingly trying to create WW3 with Russia. Don't even mention the Bushes. Pure evil, with the MSM not even questioning the invasion of Iraq. The media never mention Trump's achievements such as the dramatic increase in arrests of paedophiles and human traffickers, as well as fighting criminal gangs such as MS-13, but I've never seen a President in my lifetime openly hated by the media even before entering the White House. Anyone who can't see this is either blind or part of the system. Excellent post, there's no comeback to this. I think sometimes the truth hurts people too much, to the point they need to lie to themselves and others to feel better. Oh. Well if you say so. Game over then. Christ on a bike. I could spend an hour refuting the above so hardly 'no comeback'. But anyway just on Obama alone. Was president with a GOP house and senate which hamstrung him no end in getting anything done yet managed to still achieve a heap. Turned the economy around and restored the car industry. Tried to introduce gun control but was blocked at every turn. Introduced Obamacare and brought health care insurance to tens of millions that didn't have it previously despite vociferous opposition. Tried to stem Russian aggression and annexations of Crimea and the Ukraine. You could spend hours listing what Obama achieved and what Trump hasn't but your mind is made up and as a perfect riposte to your 'arguments need to be brought out into the open' what is the point of trying to change your mind? Trump could shoot someone in the street and people still would vote for him. You didn't answer shit, you side tracked everything. We're talking about the invading countries comment. Trump hasn't invaded any country since he's been president, Obama and those before him did. Muz stop going off topic. Sorry but what country did Obama invade? Airstrikes yes, drone strikes yes. Invasion? No. But on the matter of drone strikes. https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/5/8/18619206/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbershttps://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/projects/drone-warOnly 40 a day. https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2019-10-29/us-strike-figures-further-intensification-of-air-war-afghanistan Well what country did Trump invade? He hasn't but you are putting up Obama as someone who invaded countries and bombed others. (IE someone worse than Trump.) I've just showed you that (1) Obama invaded no one and (2) Trump has used drone strikes more than Obama.If you're trying to point Obama out for being the bad guy you clearly can't read or comprehend facts. Perhaps that's why you're an anti-vaxxer? They seem impervious to logic too. Well I thought I don't need facts when dealing someone else that doesn't need facts. I thought I could just talk shit. Let's not forget you were one claiming if he wins the election there will be WW3. Firstly you had no idea until I told you and secondly what? I definitely said no such thing.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xIsn’t the definition of terrorist pretty broad? Something like - anyone that causes violence to pursue a political goal? A person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. That above is the exact definition straight off Google. Antifa tick all those boxes, not only attacking civilians, but the police too. Sounds like Trump and every US administration that invaded other nations. Oh come on. I'm by no means a Trump sympathiser and understand why some people might dislike him. That's fine, but let's at least use facts when discussing his policies. Like most people I was genuinely fearful that Trump's not insubstantial ego and blunt manner would be a foreign policy disaster, leading to endless invasions. To my surprise, his administration have defied the war mongering Deep State neo-cons and hawks. Given who owns 90% of the US media, I can now see why they hate him so much. North Korea don’t seem to be a problem anymore. One of the first countries he visited was Saudi Arabia, After this, the Saudis arrested around 300 officials involved in human trafficking. Saudi Arabia is notorious for paedophilia and child trafficking, although I'm sure it hasn't completely solved the problem. The neocons baited him to invade Iran but thankfully common sense prevailed. Now they're pulling troops out of Afghanistan. Perhaps a bit late, but a step in the right direction. Compare this to Obama. I had such high hopes that he would help unite humanity, but completed his 8 years as the greatest disappointment of my lifetime. His administration bombed at least 7 countries and interfered in the politics of many others such as Ukraine, seemingly trying to create WW3 with Russia. Don't even mention the Bushes. Pure evil, with the MSM not even questioning the invasion of Iraq. The media never mention Trump's achievements such as the dramatic increase in arrests of paedophiles and human traffickers, as well as fighting criminal gangs such as MS-13, but I've never seen a President in my lifetime openly hated by the media even before entering the White House. Anyone who can't see this is either blind or part of the system. Excellent post, there's no comeback to this. I think sometimes the truth hurts people too much, to the point they need to lie to themselves and others to feel better. Oh. Well if you say so. Game over then. Christ on a bike. I could spend an hour refuting the above so hardly 'no comeback'. But anyway just on Obama alone. Was president with a GOP house and senate which hamstrung him no end in getting anything done yet managed to still achieve a heap. Turned the economy around and restored the car industry. Tried to introduce gun control but was blocked at every turn. Introduced Obamacare and brought health care insurance to tens of millions that didn't have it previously despite vociferous opposition. Tried to stem Russian aggression and annexations of Crimea and the Ukraine. You could spend hours listing what Obama achieved and what Trump hasn't but your mind is made up and as a perfect riposte to your 'arguments need to be brought out into the open' what is the point of trying to change your mind? Trump could shoot someone in the street and people still would vote for him. You didn't answer shit, you side tracked everything. We're talking about the invading countries comment. Trump hasn't invaded any country since he's been president, Obama and those before him did. Muz stop going off topic. Sorry but what country did Obama invade? Airstrikes yes, drone strikes yes. Invasion? No. But on the matter of drone strikes. https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/5/8/18619206/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbershttps://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/projects/drone-warOnly 40 a day. https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2019-10-29/us-strike-figures-further-intensification-of-air-war-afghanistan Well what country did Trump invade? He hasn't but you are putting up Obama as someone who invaded countries and bombed others. (IE someone worse than Trump.) I've just showed you that (1) Obama invaded no one and (2) Trump has used drone strikes more than Obama.If you're trying to point Obama out for being the bad guy you clearly can't read or comprehend facts. Perhaps that's why you're an anti-vaxxer? They seem impervious to logic too. Well I thought I don't need facts when dealing someone else that doesn't need facts. I thought I could just talk shit. Let's not forget you were one claiming if he wins the election there will be WW3. Firstly you had no idea until I told you and secondly what? I definitely said no such thing. Oh wow you're now an expert mind reader 😂. I'm pretty certain like maybe 100% you were one of those scared that if Trump won he would go to war with many countries because he's a loose canon.
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