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+x+x+x+x+xMoving seats at UTAS Stadium in Launceston doesn't make sense at all. They'd have to basically rebuild the whole thing. Surely cheaper to build a separate venue, and then you'd have two. Just build a new rectangular stadium in Hobart. Start small if necessary and build it up over time. There should be a ban on teams having multiple home grounds (I'm looking at you Western United). The situation here in Tasmania is a bit unique. Half of the population lives in the south and half in the north and in my view both would struggle to be able to support a team on their own. When Victory and Adelaide played regular preseason games in Launceston they started off with an 8k+ crowd but after a while it dropped down to around 4k. Initially a good number of football fans drove up to Launceston for the games but that dropped off quite quickly. Tas Football bods decided to move the games south but they got an even smaller crowd with very few people driving down from the north. Think the only game times that would suit fans travelling either north or south would be a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. I mean the BBL team makes it work just being called hobart and only playing there, playing at multiple grounds has been shown to be a dud. Surely the demographics of the south make it more attractive? Everything is centred around Hobart which last i heard is growing faster than the north and with a younger population. The Hurricanes also play at UTAS Stadium. Last season they played 2 of their 6 games in Tasmania there. The games in Hobart got between 6k and 11k attendance while the games in Launceston got 6k and 8k. The first unsolicited Tasmania United bid for an A-League club in Tasmania had crowd projections similar to what the BBL got last season but from memory the hire charge for Blundstone Arena was much higher than UTAS Stadium. If a rectangular stadium was to be built Hobart would be the place for it. Surprised to hear that about Bellrieve Oval, as they've had a good deal with South Hobart for any home FFA Cup games for a while from what I hear. I actually was there for the only game they've played there so far, I found it far better than York Park:  Needless to say, anything other than a rectangular venue should be a non-starter for the WWC.
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They came up with this last year so not sure why FFA can’t lobby for it to be rectangular as they already have Blundstone arena and UTAS as oval grounds
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They should scrap the plans for Launceston and just build a rectangler stadium in Hobart! Play all preseason and FFA games in Launceston to give the north an opportunity.
i understand they see Launceston as the only venue that could be ready for a World Cup game but if that goes ahead there is no chance a Hobart stadium will be built! They need to use the woman’s game for a training venue to be built in time for World Cup teams to base themselves at. Then handed over to an ALeague club and a stadium to be built to support the club after World Cup.
they could make it rugby sizes and have concerts to make it more appealing to government
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+x+x+x+xMoving seats at UTAS Stadium in Launceston doesn't make sense at all. They'd have to basically rebuild the whole thing. Surely cheaper to build a separate venue, and then you'd have two. Just build a new rectangular stadium in Hobart. Start small if necessary and build it up over time. There should be a ban on teams having multiple home grounds (I'm looking at you Western United). The situation here in Tasmania is a bit unique. Half of the population lives in the south and half in the north and in my view both would struggle to be able to support a team on their own. When Victory and Adelaide played regular preseason games in Launceston they started off with an 8k+ crowd but after a while it dropped down to around 4k. Initially a good number of football fans drove up to Launceston for the games but that dropped off quite quickly. Tas Football bods decided to move the games south but they got an even smaller crowd with very few people driving down from the north. Think the only game times that would suit fans travelling either north or south would be a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. I mean the BBL team makes it work just being called hobart and only playing there, playing at multiple grounds has been shown to be a dud. Surely the demographics of the south make it more attractive? Everything is centred around Hobart which last i heard is growing faster than the north and with a younger population. The Hurricanes also play at UTAS Stadium. Last season they played 2 of their 6 games in Tasmania there. The games in Hobart got between 6k and 11k attendance while the games in Launceston got 6k and 8k. The first unsolicited Tasmania United bid for an A-League club in Tasmania had crowd projections similar to what the BBL got last season but from memory the hire charge for Blundstone Arena was much higher than UTAS Stadium. If a rectangular stadium was to be built Hobart would be the place for it.
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+xWill the NBL team be based in Hobart? Yes, at Derwent Stadium, which the franchise owner has got the state government to swing for an upgrade.
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Will the NBL team be based in Hobart?
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+x+x+xMoving seats at UTAS Stadium in Launceston doesn't make sense at all. They'd have to basically rebuild the whole thing. Surely cheaper to build a separate venue, and then you'd have two. Just build a new rectangular stadium in Hobart. Start small if necessary and build it up over time. There should be a ban on teams having multiple home grounds (I'm looking at you Western United). The situation here in Tasmania is a bit unique. Half of the population lives in the south and half in the north and in my view both would struggle to be able to support a team on their own. When Victory and Adelaide played regular preseason games in Launceston they started off with an 8k+ crowd but after a while it dropped down to around 4k. Initially a good number of football fans drove up to Launceston for the games but that dropped off quite quickly. Tas Football bods decided to move the games south but they got an even smaller crowd with very few people driving down from the north. Think the only game times that would suit fans travelling either north or south would be a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. I mean the BBL team makes it work just being called hobart and only playing there, playing at multiple grounds has been shown to be a dud. Surely the demographics of the south make it more attractive? Everything is centred around Hobart which last i heard is growing faster than the north and with a younger population.
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+x+xMoving seats at UTAS Stadium in Launceston doesn't make sense at all. They'd have to basically rebuild the whole thing. Surely cheaper to build a separate venue, and then you'd have two. Just build a new rectangular stadium in Hobart. Start small if necessary and build it up over time. There should be a ban on teams having multiple home grounds (I'm looking at you Western United). The situation here in Tasmania is a bit unique. Half of the population lives in the south and half in the north and in my view both would struggle to be able to support an A-League team on their own. When Victory and Adelaide played regular preseason games in Launceston they started off with an 8k+ crowd but after a while it dropped down to around 4k. Initially a good number of football fans drove up to Launceston for the games but that dropped off quite quickly. Tas Football bods decided to move the games south but they got an even smaller crowd with very few people driving down from the north. Think the only game times that would suit fans travelling either north or south would be a Saturday or Sunday afternoon.
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+xMoving seats at UTAS Stadium in Launceston doesn't make sense at all. They'd have to basically rebuild the whole thing. Surely cheaper to build a separate venue, and then you'd have two. The stadium site, in fact the whole suburb, is a thin crust of soil overlying saturated marine silt. When they built the grandstand they were driving piles to rock some 10 to 25m down. There is video of the pile driver hitting the pile cap twice to get it through the crust and then it sank from then on under its own weight. Moveable stands on that site would be an engineering masterpiece and have a price tag to match.
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+xMoving seats at UTAS Stadium in Launceston doesn't make sense at all. They'd have to basically rebuild the whole thing. Surely cheaper to build a separate venue, and then you'd have two. Just build a new rectangular stadium in Hobart. Start small if necessary and build it up over time. There should be a ban on teams having multiple home grounds (I'm looking at you Western United).
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Liking the proactiveness, not sure about this though
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Moving seats at UTAS Stadium in Launceston doesn't make sense at all. They'd have to basically rebuild the whole thing. Surely cheaper to build a separate venue, and then you'd have two.
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”Rockhampton could end up with two rival sports stadiums amid a federal-state funding stoush. Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk pledged $25 million to upgrade the city's main rugby leage venue Browne Park on Thursday. However less than a fortnight ago, One Nation leader Pauline Hanson announced $23 million for the proposed rival Rocky Sports Club stadium on behalf of the federal government. Rockhampton and the surrounding electorates of Keppel and Mirani are a key battleground between Labor and One Nation in the October 31 state election race. The premier says the state funding will add 4000 seats to Browne Park, which will give the arena 12,000 seats and make it eligible to host NRL, AFL, Super Rugby and A-League matches. "This is something the community is passionate about, I'm passionate about and we want to see that stage one happen," Ms Palaszczuk said on Thursday.” https://www.mandurahmail.com.au/story/6940230/political-stoush-over-rival-qld-stadiums/?cs=9397
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+xHad the bid or government released any drawings or concept designs of the proposed stadium and location in Hobart?? They haven't finalised a location in Hobart. Even concept designs are site specific so although they might know the things they want in a stadium it's not sensible to spend money on developing designs at this stage. I did see an artists impression in one of the local rags a couple of years ago but they are not usually reliable.
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+xHad the bid or government released any drawings or concept designs of the proposed stadium and location in Hobart?? If they did they will be very grand to get us all excited and instead we would end up with a multi purpose facility with a stand on one side only.
I don’t hold out much hope for a football specific venue being built there.
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Had the bid or government released any drawings or concept designs of the proposed stadium and location in Hobart??
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+x+xSoccer boss still working on A-League team for Tasmania and new soccer stadium for Hobart
James Bresnehan, Mercury
September 23, 2020 4:55pm
TASMANIAN soccer boss Bob Gordon says the state’s push for an A-League team will ramp up next week when he meet with its financial backers and he is closing in on a greenfield site for a national-standard soccer stadium in Hobart.
President of Football Tasmania, Gordon said the coronavirus had shifted the landscape on Australian soccer but the pursuit of a Tasmanian team in the A-League was still on course.
It comes as the state secures a National Basketball League team to be based at a extensively refurbished Derwent Entertainment Centre and will start competing next year.
“I will be talking to the financial backers of the Tasmanian A-League team again next week, and they are still interested,” Gordon said.
“We are working proactively and cooperatively with the State Government about what needs to be done to make sure we’ve got the facilities where we could play A-League.”
Turning Launceston’s AFL venue UTas Stadium into a soccer-ready pitch was a priority.
“The first step is making sure York Park gets upgraded to rectangular stadium format like Marvel Stadium, where the seats come out into the ground so it’s rectangular,” Gordon said.
“That would allow us to play Matildas games in the lead up to the World Cup, as well as A-League games and Y-League games.
“It would be a lasting legacy for every sport that needs a rectangular stadium and it would also increase the seating for other sports as well.
“We will not get the World Cup unless we have a rectangular format stadium.
“We are still working on an option for a rectangular stadium for Hobart.”
A-League games would be played at both ends of the state.
“The proponents are keen on playing games in Hobart and Launceston, just from sheer economics, you get good crowds at both,” Gordon said.
“But we do need a rectangular stadium in Hobart and it wouldn’t just be for the A-League.
“It could be a concert venue for 12,000 or 13,000 people, and we’ve had an international rugby game down here and we occasionally get an NRL game, and it would be used for events like that.
“But you don’t get those unless you’ve got the facilities.”
Gordon said the A-League group identified seven potential sites for a Hobart soccer venue, and the shortlist had been reduced to three.
“It would be quite a modest investment compared with the billion dollars that’s been spent on York Park and Blundstone Arena,” he said.
“We’ve got three locations and we are still working through that process.”
This isn't good enough for A-League games, let alone a World Cup. Docklands is still shit with the retractable seating and this will be even worse, York Park is nothing other than a dump and Launceston is a glorified village. Tasmania can either build a stadium in Hobart or get in the bin. No more ovals. Not to mention, surely it would be cheaper to build a modest rectangular venue with the same amount of seats that would be moving in Launceston?
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+xSoccer boss still working on A-League team for Tasmania and new soccer stadium for Hobart
James Bresnehan, Mercury
September 23, 2020 4:55pm
TASMANIAN soccer boss Bob Gordon says the state’s push for an A-League team will ramp up next week when he meet with its financial backers and he is closing in on a greenfield site for a national-standard soccer stadium in Hobart.
President of Football Tasmania, Gordon said the coronavirus had shifted the landscape on Australian soccer but the pursuit of a Tasmanian team in the A-League was still on course.
It comes as the state secures a National Basketball League team to be based at a extensively refurbished Derwent Entertainment Centre and will start competing next year.
“I will be talking to the financial backers of the Tasmanian A-League team again next week, and they are still interested,” Gordon said.
“We are working proactively and cooperatively with the State Government about what needs to be done to make sure we’ve got the facilities where we could play A-League.”
Turning Launceston’s AFL venue UTas Stadium into a soccer-ready pitch was a priority.
“The first step is making sure York Park gets upgraded to rectangular stadium format like Marvel Stadium, where the seats come out into the ground so it’s rectangular,” Gordon said.
“That would allow us to play Matildas games in the lead up to the World Cup, as well as A-League games and Y-League games.
“It would be a lasting legacy for every sport that needs a rectangular stadium and it would also increase the seating for other sports as well.
“We will not get the World Cup unless we have a rectangular format stadium.
“We are still working on an option for a rectangular stadium for Hobart.”
A-League games would be played at both ends of the state.
“The proponents are keen on playing games in Hobart and Launceston, just from sheer economics, you get good crowds at both,” Gordon said.
“But we do need a rectangular stadium in Hobart and it wouldn’t just be for the A-League.
“It could be a concert venue for 12,000 or 13,000 people, and we’ve had an international rugby game down here and we occasionally get an NRL game, and it would be used for events like that.
“But you don’t get those unless you’ve got the facilities.”
Gordon said the A-League group identified seven potential sites for a Hobart soccer venue, and the shortlist had been reduced to three.
“It would be quite a modest investment compared with the billion dollars that’s been spent on York Park and Blundstone Arena,” he said.
“We’ve got three locations and we are still working through that process.”
This isn't good enough for A-League games, let alone a World Cup. Docklands is still shit with the retractable seating and this will be even worse, York Park is nothing other than a dump and Launceston is a glorified village. Tasmania can either build a stadium in Hobart or get in the bin. No more ovals.
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+xSoccer boss still working on A-League team for Tasmania and new soccer stadium for Hobart
James Bresnehan, Mercury
September 23, 2020 4:55pm
TASMANIAN soccer boss Bob Gordon says the state’s push for an A-League team will ramp up next week when he meet with its financial backers and he is closing in on a greenfield site for a national-standard soccer stadium in Hobart.
President of Football Tasmania, Gordon said the coronavirus had shifted the landscape on Australian soccer but the pursuit of a Tasmanian team in the A-League was still on course.
It comes as the state secures a National Basketball League team to be based at a extensively refurbished Derwent Entertainment Centre and will start competing next year.
“I will be talking to the financial backers of the Tasmanian A-League team again next week, and they are still interested,” Gordon said.
“We are working proactively and cooperatively with the State Government about what needs to be done to make sure we’ve got the facilities where we could play A-League.”
Turning Launceston’s AFL venue UTas Stadium into a soccer-ready pitch was a priority.
“The first step is making sure York Park gets upgraded to rectangular stadium format like Marvel Stadium, where the seats come out into the ground so it’s rectangular,” Gordon said.
“That would allow us to play Matildas games in the lead up to the World Cup, as well as A-League games and Y-League games.
“It would be a lasting legacy for every sport that needs a rectangular stadium and it would also increase the seating for other sports as well.
“We will not get the World Cup unless we have a rectangular format stadium.
“We are still working on an option for a rectangular stadium for Hobart.”
A-League games would be played at both ends of the state.
“The proponents are keen on playing games in Hobart and Launceston, just from sheer economics, you get good crowds at both,” Gordon said.
“But we do need a rectangular stadium in Hobart and it wouldn’t just be for the A-League.
“It could be a concert venue for 12,000 or 13,000 people, and we’ve had an international rugby game down here and we occasionally get an NRL game, and it would be used for events like that.
“But you don’t get those unless you’ve got the facilities.”
Gordon said the A-League group identified seven potential sites for a Hobart soccer venue, and the shortlist had been reduced to three.
“It would be quite a modest investment compared with the billion dollars that’s been spent on York Park and Blundstone Arena,” he said.
“We’ve got three locations and we are still working through that process.”
Good luck to them. I would like to see Tasmania get a team, but the economics of such a move is a bit hard to compute. They already have a strong AFL presence, Cricket and soon NBL with a fairly modest population base, which is also fairly evenly split across the North and South making things even trickier. Expecting them to build a 10k football specific venue is a bit hard to see happen, but if they can get it built I’d be pleasantly surprised.
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+x+xAnyone seen the image of Dolphin Stadiums new stand behind the goals. Looks really good! Looks like not too much coverage from rain, unless near the top. There’s no coverage from rain (or more importantly the sun) whether you’re at the top or bottom - there is no roof on the new stand.
But Dolphin shows what can be done on a modest budget and not $300m+
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+x+xAnyone seen the image of Dolphin Stadiums new stand behind the goals. Looks really good! Looks like not too much coverage from rain, unless near the top. It’s a very basic set up really. Rain or sun, that would be a nightmare to be sitting out in during a summer day in particular.
I read that the Dolphins are also pushing hard for a spot in the NRL. They sound a bit like Western United though in that they want to play some games at Dolphin Stadium, some at Suncorp and a few at Sunshine Coast. When they have their own stadium, further expansion of the venue would be better than trying to be something to everyone by living a nomadic life.
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Soccer boss still working on A-League team for Tasmania and new soccer stadium for Hobart
James Bresnehan, Mercury
September 23, 2020 4:55pm
TASMANIAN soccer boss Bob Gordon says the state’s push for an A-League team will ramp up next week when he meet with its financial backers and he is closing in on a greenfield site for a national-standard soccer stadium in Hobart.
President of Football Tasmania, Gordon said the coronavirus had shifted the landscape on Australian soccer but the pursuit of a Tasmanian team in the A-League was still on course.
It comes as the state secures a National Basketball League team to be based at a extensively refurbished Derwent Entertainment Centre and will start competing next year.
“I will be talking to the financial backers of the Tasmanian A-League team again next week, and they are still interested,” Gordon said.
“We are working proactively and cooperatively with the State Government about what needs to be done to make sure we’ve got the facilities where we could play A-League.”
Turning Launceston’s AFL venue UTas Stadium into a soccer-ready pitch was a priority.
“The first step is making sure York Park gets upgraded to rectangular stadium format like Marvel Stadium, where the seats come out into the ground so it’s rectangular,” Gordon said.
“That would allow us to play Matildas games in the lead up to the World Cup, as well as A-League games and Y-League games.
“It would be a lasting legacy for every sport that needs a rectangular stadium and it would also increase the seating for other sports as well.
“We will not get the World Cup unless we have a rectangular format stadium.
“We are still working on an option for a rectangular stadium for Hobart.”
A-League games would be played at both ends of the state.
“The proponents are keen on playing games in Hobart and Launceston, just from sheer economics, you get good crowds at both,” Gordon said.
“But we do need a rectangular stadium in Hobart and it wouldn’t just be for the A-League.
“It could be a concert venue for 12,000 or 13,000 people, and we’ve had an international rugby game down here and we occasionally get an NRL game, and it would be used for events like that.
“But you don’t get those unless you’ve got the facilities.”
Gordon said the A-League group identified seven potential sites for a Hobart soccer venue, and the shortlist had been reduced to three.
“It would be quite a modest investment compared with the billion dollars that’s been spent on York Park and Blundstone Arena,” he said.
“We’ve got three locations and we are still working through that process.”
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I would much rather Hobart build their own football specific stadium with no more than 10k capacity, and play all home games there. I'm not into clubs playing out of more than one home stadium, especially in another city.
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“ TASMANIAN soccer boss Bob Gordon says the state’s push for an A-League team will ramp up next week when he meet with its financial backers and he is closing in on a greenfield site for a national-standard soccer stadium in Hobart.” https://www.themercury.com.au/sport/soccer-boss-still-working-on-aleague-team-for-tasmania-and-new-soccer-stadium-for-hobart/news-story/f2df5bde421560280a97d707d4878cbf
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+xAnyone seen the image of Dolphin Stadiums new stand behind the goals. Looks really good! Looks like not too much coverage from rain, unless near the top.
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Anyone seen the image of Dolphin Stadiums new stand behind the goals. Looks really good!
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Multi-purpose Adelaide CBD stadium concept revealedAustadiums Austadiums Wednesday 16th September 2020  Adelaide Venue Management has pitched a new 22,000-capacity stadium on the CBD’s Riverbank that includes a football pitch that can elevate to create an indoor arena. A pitch videopitch video created by the authority that runs the Adelaide Entertainment Centre, Convention Centre and Coopers Stadium, calls for a second major stadium in Adelaide to solve issues with existing facilities that are nearing the end of their useful lives. The proposed arena, dubbed Riverbank Arena, is located on the edge of Adelaide’s CBD, tucked in on the riverfront, behind the new Royal Adelaide Hospital and train station, southwest of Adelaide Oval and adjacent the Adelaide Convention Centre. The stadium features a capacity of 22,000 for rectangular sports such as football, rugby league and union. The football pitch can then rise up to cover the arena and reveal a lower bowl, able to host sports such as basketball and netball with a capacity of 15,000. Arena-style concerts will be able to attract up to 30,000 fans. The video says the Adelaide Entertainment CentreAdelaide Entertainment Centre, Coopers StadiumCoopers Stadium and Priceline StadiumPriceline Stadium are all nearing the end of their useful lives, while the Entertainment Centre’s 10,000 capacity and netball centre’s 3,200 capacity is no longer sufficient. It says the former 36ers home venue Adelaide ArenaAdelaide Arena has reached the end of its life and is no longer fit for professional basketball (the NBL team now plays at the Entertainment Centre) and while the Convention Centre is considered world-class, it lacks exhibition space. The video also says the new roof recently installed at Memorial DriveMemorial Drive provides a short to mid-term fix, but a larger venue will deliver superior world-class tennis events. It’s believed the pitch video was created last year and presented to the Government, and while a second major stadium for the city was put on the agenda earlier this year, Covid-19 put the plans on ice. However, leading industry groups are now calling for the plans to be urgently reconsidered as the Reserve Bank called on states to deliver more stimulus to save and create jobs. An accompanying business case forecasts 3200 direct and 5800 indirect jobs from such a project.    "In order to unlock the full potential of the South Australian growth agenda we must be competitive, strategic and future-thinking,” the pitch video states." "Currently, our exiting venue infrastructure is unable to maintain current socio-economic benefits or create new growth opportunities for South Australia." "SA is missing out and is no longer competitive." It’s not the first time a new stadium has been proposed for the Riverbank precinct in Adelaide, with a business case for a new indoor stadium put forward in late 2018business case for a new indoor stadium put forward in late 2018, while a major redevelopment for Memorial Drivemajor redevelopment for Memorial Drive was also proposed earlier that same year.
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+x+x+xIs it possible if this stadium gets built in the next 5years that a new Adelaide club could move in? I really want to learn more about how this proposed lifting field works. Multi-purpose venues are the future for taxpayer-funded facilities. Not a fan of the concept to be honest, and it probably wouldn't be that much cheaper than just building a separate entertainment centre. Football in Adelaide needs a proper home, not a venue where Adelaide Utd will probably get bumped from a finals match because there's a fucking Taylor Swift concert on. I don’t mind it. They could build an indoor arena with retractable roof and AstroTurf as an alternative. Just put down special mats when football isn’t on. Its very good placing to get corporate sponsors. Sure it would have full vip shit Also, don’t think there is enough space like Liverpool council want (Like the Arizona one) to have a grass pitch that rails in and out of the stadium. Probably got over the line with real grass so they can play AFLX there
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