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Sharing new boutique grounds with the NRL clubs won't solve a major issue we have in this country: Playing on sub-standard surfaces.
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+xSharing new boutique grounds with the NRL clubs won't solve a major issue we have in this country: Playing on sub-standard surfaces. Sadly true.
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+x+xStill frustrating the SCG hijacked the common sense approach that should’ve occurred in this shit show. SFS didn’t need the capacity any more than 30-35k max. None of their tenants test that at the best of times. I can’t see them getting the suburban upgrades unless they jump into bed with AL teams. Campbelltown is probably best positioned in the instance and Manly will try and entice Charlesworth to secure funding. They'll get a new oven in the place that sells meat pies on site at Brookvale. It's all he would be prepared to spend. :hehe: You're being way too optimistic.
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+xSharing new boutique grounds with the NRL clubs won't solve a major issue we have in this country: Playing on sub-standard surfaces. AAMI Park invariably has a pristine pitch, and that's with NRL, Super Rugby and 2 A-League sides. Also look at England with Wigan, Huddersfield, Hull. It's not impossible. The bigger issue to my mind is the excessive distance between the goal line and the end stands. It's not so much League that's the problem, but the perceived need to accommodate Rugby, even when it's unlikely for high-level Rugby matches to be played at the ground. This is why Hindmarsh is the only decent football stadium in the country.
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+x+xSharing new boutique grounds with the NRL clubs won't solve a major issue we have in this country: Playing on sub-standard surfaces. AAMI Park invariably has a pristine pitch, and that's with NRL, Super Rugby and 2 A-League sides. Also look at England with Wigan, Huddersfield, Hull. It's not impossible. The bigger issue to my mind is the excessive distance between the goal line and the end stands. It's not so much League that's the problem, but the perceived need to accommodate Rugby, even when it's unlikely for high-level Rugby matches to be played at the ground. This is why Hindmarsh is the only decent football stadium in the country. AAMI park is significantly better than any other ground share stadium but it certainly hasn't been without problems following NRL and Rugby. Agree that RL isn't an issue re. Length if pitch. Leichardt stadium is super close. No problems there
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+x+xSharing new boutique grounds with the NRL clubs won't solve a major issue we have in this country: Playing on sub-standard surfaces. AAMI Park invariably has a pristine pitch, and that's with NRL, Super Rugby and 2 A-League sides. Also look at England with Wigan, Huddersfield, Hull. It's not impossible. The bigger issue to my mind is the excessive distance between the goal line and the end stands. It's not so much League that's the problem, but the perceived need to accommodate Rugby, even when it's unlikely for high-level Rugby matches to be played at the ground. This is why Hindmarsh is the only decent football stadium in the country. Yes! Even Bankwest looks average behind the goal ends. Nib, Aami, Suncorp and Newcastle stadium have the same issue. Hindmarsh is perfect.
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+xAAMI park is significantly better than any other ground share stadium but it certainly hasn't been without problems following NRL and Rugby. AAMI Park is usually worse after concerts. and of course, concerts are always held during the AL season. There was also some issue with the grass a few years ago. I think it had some disease? and it occured at the worst time when the NRL and Super Rugby had started.
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Aight well my personal take is, does Football really need ANZ. It unlikely Sydney or Wanderers will ever draw enough fans to require that stadium on a weekly basis and its unlikely then that will even need it all for the regular season. Also unless theres a possibility of a grand final with large crowd attendance, both teams will again avoid ANZ as they wont need it.
The only times the FFA and A-league may require this stadium may be about once or twice a year. And with the new SFS being around the 40-45k mark, unless its a major socceroos qualifier match or maybe a pre season friendly if another big boy like Chelsea, Arsenal or United, etc the SFS or bankwest would work just fine for them.
Finally, if the NRL do get there way and money is re diverted in any way, its likely Campbelltown is a front runner. It was previously mentioned the planned redevelopments are going to take place and if additional funding is provided that's just another benefit.
So in the end WSW will have a fresh Bankwest, Sydney with a fresh SFS and Macarthur with a rejuvenated Campbelltown stadium.
Also if the four proposed stadiums are redeveloped, it opens the market for expansion or second division clubs based on the Northern Beaches, South Sydney or Penrith in alignment with the new stadiums.
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+x+xSharing new boutique grounds with the NRL clubs won't solve a major issue we have in this country: Playing on sub-standard surfaces. The bigger issue to my mind is the excessive distance between the goal line and the end stands. It's not so much League that's the problem, but the perceived need to accommodate Rugby, even when it's unlikely for high-level Rugby matches to be played at the ground. This is why Hindmarsh is the only decent football stadium in the country. Yeah the fact that every new stadium is being built to acomadate the max rugby union field specs is ludicrous considering they only have 1 Pro team in the state and a fanbase openly disgusted by the idea of any games further west than Balmain. They are already getting a fancy new SFS where nearly all of their professional games will be played, there is no need to further acomadate them by having these huge in goal areas in every stadium in Sydney when they will never play there.
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+x+xSharing new boutique grounds with the NRL clubs won't solve a major issue we have in this country: Playing on sub-standard surfaces. AAMI Park invariably has a pristine pitch, and that's with NRL, Super Rugby and 2 A-League sides. Also look at England with Wigan, Huddersfield, Hull. It's not impossible. The bigger issue to my mind is the excessive distance between the goal line and the end stands. It's not so much League that's the problem, but the perceived need to accommodate Rugby, even when it's unlikely for high-level Rugby matches to be played at the ground. This is why Hindmarsh is the only decent football stadium in the country. Hindmarsh doesn't comply with FIFA's recommended dimensions behind the goal.
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+x+x+xSharing new boutique grounds with the NRL clubs won't solve a major issue we have in this country: Playing on sub-standard surfaces. AAMI Park invariably has a pristine pitch, and that's with NRL, Super Rugby and 2 A-League sides. Also look at England with Wigan, Huddersfield, Hull. It's not impossible. The bigger issue to my mind is the excessive distance between the goal line and the end stands. It's not so much League that's the problem, but the perceived need to accommodate Rugby, even when it's unlikely for high-level Rugby matches to be played at the ground. This is why Hindmarsh is the only decent football stadium in the country. Hindmarsh doesn't comply with FIFA's recommended dimensions behind the goal. FIFA's recommended fence line dimensions for World Cup games is 125x85m. AAMI Park is also too skinny at 82 metres wide and too long due to rugby as mentioned above at 135m. Wembley is something like 138x95m. It's not as big a problem as being below the capacity requirement for the Women's World Cup bid.
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does bankwest stadium have a clever hybrid synthetic/grass pitch like aami?
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+x+x+x+xSharing new boutique grounds with the NRL clubs won't solve a major issue we have in this country: Playing on sub-standard surfaces. AAMI Park invariably has a pristine pitch, and that's with NRL, Super Rugby and 2 A-League sides. Also look at England with Wigan, Huddersfield, Hull. It's not impossible. The bigger issue to my mind is the excessive distance between the goal line and the end stands. It's not so much League that's the problem, but the perceived need to accommodate Rugby, even when it's unlikely for high-level Rugby matches to be played at the ground. This is why Hindmarsh is the only decent football stadium in the country. Hindmarsh doesn't comply with FIFA's recommended dimensions behind the goal. FIFA's recommended fence line dimensions for World Cup games is 125x85m. AAMI Park is also too skinny at 82 metres wide and too long due to rugby as mentioned above at 135m. Wembley is something like 138x95m. It's not as big a problem as being below the capacity requirement for the Women's World Cup bid. A lot of modern stadiums, especially at world cups, always seem to be built with an excessive amount of distance between the goal and fans for a rectangular ground.  I hate this rounded bowl trend with modern stadiums, give us some fucking right angles
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+x+x+x+xSharing new boutique grounds with the NRL clubs won't solve a major issue we have in this country: Playing on sub-standard surfaces. AAMI Park invariably has a pristine pitch, and that's with NRL, Super Rugby and 2 A-League sides. Also look at England with Wigan, Huddersfield, Hull. It's not impossible. The bigger issue to my mind is the excessive distance between the goal line and the end stands. It's not so much League that's the problem, but the perceived need to accommodate Rugby, even when it's unlikely for high-level Rugby matches to be played at the ground. This is why Hindmarsh is the only decent football stadium in the country. Hindmarsh doesn't comply with FIFA's recommended dimensions behind the goal. FIFA's recommended fence line dimensions for World Cup games is 125x85m. AAMI Park is also too skinny at 82 metres wide and too long due to rugby as mentioned above at 135m. Wembley is something like 138x95m. It's not as big a problem as being below the capacity requirement for the Women's World Cup bid. Hang on... I'm going to have to read through these regs. I know the dimensions you've stated are right, but I thought this was for all internationals, not just World Cup games
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+x+x+x+x+xSharing new boutique grounds with the NRL clubs won't solve a major issue we have in this country: Playing on sub-standard surfaces. AAMI Park invariably has a pristine pitch, and that's with NRL, Super Rugby and 2 A-League sides. Also look at England with Wigan, Huddersfield, Hull. It's not impossible. The bigger issue to my mind is the excessive distance between the goal line and the end stands. It's not so much League that's the problem, but the perceived need to accommodate Rugby, even when it's unlikely for high-level Rugby matches to be played at the ground. This is why Hindmarsh is the only decent football stadium in the country. Hindmarsh doesn't comply with FIFA's recommended dimensions behind the goal. FIFA's recommended fence line dimensions for World Cup games is 125x85m. AAMI Park is also too skinny at 82 metres wide and too long due to rugby as mentioned above at 135m. Wembley is something like 138x95m. It's not as big a problem as being below the capacity requirement for the Women's World Cup bid. A lot of modern stadiums, especially at world cups, always seem to be built with an excessive amount of distance between the goal and fans for a rectangular ground.  I hate this rounded bowl trend with modern stadiums, give us some fucking right angles Slightly curved side stands provide improved viewing for spectators in the front dozen or so rows of seating. It allows spectators a clear view of play in the corners without having to lean forward or stand to see past nearby spectators. With straight sided seating tiers the worst thing that can be done is to bring the stand closer to the pitch.
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“Football Federation Australia will lobby NSW Government to fund community football facilities around the state and a national "home of football" centre in Sydney that will become a permanent home for the Socceroos and the Matildas. The state government's decision to abandon the redevelopment of ANZ Stadium and redirect the $810 million funding towards other infrastructure projects has opened the door for sports to apply for other purpose-built facilities.
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However, football is set to launch a strong bid for those funds to be used to improve grassroots facilities for the state's most popular sport, as well as help build a permanent home of football in Australia. The state's two football associations, Football NSW and Northern NSW Football are leading the charge to secure funds for grassroots facilities, while FFA is eager to secure a permanent headquarters for football in the game's largest state, home to almost 380,000 registered players.”
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/football-needs-a-home-ffa-to-lobby-government-for-new-base-20200605-p5500o.html?js-chunk-not-found-refresh=true
We tried this before and SFC sides with SCG Trust and are now it seems trying to get out of playing at the stadium they wanted built..... if it gets finished anytime soon.
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“The hope is to build a facility similar to Coverciano in Italy, St George Park in England or Clairefontaine in France. It will have a number of training fields that can be used for community programs, miniroos and multi-cultural engagement events when the national teams aren't in camp. While talks are at a preliminary stage, it's hoped that a facility could be up and running by the 2023 Women's World Cup, which Australia is bidding to host. FIFA's council will vote on the winning bid on June 25. “Australian football has never had a place to call ‘home’ – we are the only major sporting code in Australia not to have one. If we look around the world, there are a number of countries which have built a home for their national teams. Brazil, England and in our region, Malaysia, all have a home for their national teams and broader game where they call home," Johnson said.”
im not against it. Don’t think it should be a photo op refugee place though.
would like to see it as a potential new Ais program place. Where top players train and play and also can meet Socceroos, watch training and gain mentors.
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+x+x+x+x+xSharing new boutique grounds with the NRL clubs won't solve a major issue we have in this country: Playing on sub-standard surfaces. AAMI Park invariably has a pristine pitch, and that's with NRL, Super Rugby and 2 A-League sides. Also look at England with Wigan, Huddersfield, Hull. It's not impossible. The bigger issue to my mind is the excessive distance between the goal line and the end stands. It's not so much League that's the problem, but the perceived need to accommodate Rugby, even when it's unlikely for high-level Rugby matches to be played at the ground. This is why Hindmarsh is the only decent football stadium in the country. Hindmarsh doesn't comply with FIFA's recommended dimensions behind the goal. FIFA's recommended fence line dimensions for World Cup games is 125x85m. AAMI Park is also too skinny at 82 metres wide and too long due to rugby as mentioned above at 135m. Wembley is something like 138x95m. It's not as big a problem as being below the capacity requirement for the Women's World Cup bid. Hang on... I'm going to have to read through these regs. I know the dimensions you've stated are right, but I thought this was for all internationals, not just World Cup games My source for this is from page 64 of "Football Stadiums: Technical recommendations and requirements - 5th Edition" here on FIFA's site, it's from 2011 but I don't see any 6th edition on there. I might have been slightly incorrect in saying they were specifically World Cup regulations, while the 105x68m playing field size is obligatory for World Cup and each confederation's championship, the 125x85m fenceline would be a general recommendation overall. https://resources.fifa.com/image/upload/football-stadiums-technical-recommendations-and-requirements-5th-edition-1371776.pdf?cloudid=rcrtvaelvfae84czze1w
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”A modern 20,000-seat stadium could be built in Sydney's south-west if Campbelltown City Council succeeds with its application for state government funding to renovate Campbelltown Stadium.” https://www.smh.com.au/sport/campbelltown-hat-trick-three-plans-in-play-to-overhaul-stadium-20200613-p5529y.html
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+x+x+x+x+x+xSharing new boutique grounds with the NRL clubs won't solve a major issue we have in this country: Playing on sub-standard surfaces. AAMI Park invariably has a pristine pitch, and that's with NRL, Super Rugby and 2 A-League sides. Also look at England with Wigan, Huddersfield, Hull. It's not impossible. The bigger issue to my mind is the excessive distance between the goal line and the end stands. It's not so much League that's the problem, but the perceived need to accommodate Rugby, even when it's unlikely for high-level Rugby matches to be played at the ground. This is why Hindmarsh is the only decent football stadium in the country. Hindmarsh doesn't comply with FIFA's recommended dimensions behind the goal. FIFA's recommended fence line dimensions for World Cup games is 125x85m. AAMI Park is also too skinny at 82 metres wide and too long due to rugby as mentioned above at 135m. Wembley is something like 138x95m. It's not as big a problem as being below the capacity requirement for the Women's World Cup bid. A lot of modern stadiums, especially at world cups, always seem to be built with an excessive amount of distance between the goal and fans for a rectangular ground.  I hate this rounded bowl trend with modern stadiums, give us some fucking right angles Slightly curved side stands provide improved viewing for spectators in the front dozen or so rows of seating. It allows spectators a clear view of play in the corners without having to lean forward or stand to see past nearby spectators. With straight sided seating tiers the worst thing that can be done is to bring the stand closer to the pitch. Look Gyfox whilst I'll always appreciate your encyclopaedic knowledge of stadium design and regulations, and this certainly sounds absolutely correct design wise, but I'm still going to call it shite. Surely being close enough to the action to be able to breath down a players neck and be right on top of them is an acceptable trade off to have to lean forward slightly to see a corner? It also doesn't exactly explain why they do this curved shit behind the goals either. It's not like it has ever been a problem being able to see the corner flag when you're behind the goals.
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+x“Football Federation Australia will lobby NSW Government to fund community football facilities around the state and a national "home of football" centre in Sydney that will become a permanent home for the Socceroos and the Matildas. The state government's decision to abandon the redevelopment of ANZ Stadium and redirect the $810 million funding towards other infrastructure projects has opened the door for sports to apply for other purpose-built facilities.
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However, football is set to launch a strong bid for those funds to be used to improve grassroots facilities for the state's most popular sport, as well as help build a permanent home of football in Australia. The state's two football associations, Football NSW and Northern NSW Football are leading the charge to secure funds for grassroots facilities, while FFA is eager to secure a permanent headquarters for football in the game's largest state, home to almost 380,000 registered players.”
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/football-needs-a-home-ffa-to-lobby-government-for-new-base-20200605-p5500o.html?js-chunk-not-found-refresh=true
We tried this before and SFC sides with SCG Trust and are now it seems trying to get out of playing at the stadium they wanted built..... if it gets finished anytime soon. Only Smurf fans want a "home of football" in Sydney's eastern suburbs. It makes sense to put it closer to the geographic and population centre of Sydney. And why should it be located in Sydney. Simply, the number of registered players for teams that play in NSW which includes 3 federations (Football NSW, Northern NSW and Capital Football [since a number of teams from NSW play in their comp]). Canberra is around 3 hours from Sydney. The home of the biggest games the Socceroos have played is Stadium Australia (Homebush NSW) with 2005 Qualifying game and Uruguay and the 2015 Asian Cup Final win played their.
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+x+x“Football Federation Australia will lobby NSW Government to fund community football facilities around the state and a national "home of football" centre in Sydney that will become a permanent home for the Socceroos and the Matildas. The state government's decision to abandon the redevelopment of ANZ Stadium and redirect the $810 million funding towards other infrastructure projects has opened the door for sports to apply for other purpose-built facilities.
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However, football is set to launch a strong bid for those funds to be used to improve grassroots facilities for the state's most popular sport, as well as help build a permanent home of football in Australia. The state's two football associations, Football NSW and Northern NSW Football are leading the charge to secure funds for grassroots facilities, while FFA is eager to secure a permanent headquarters for football in the game's largest state, home to almost 380,000 registered players.”
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/football-needs-a-home-ffa-to-lobby-government-for-new-base-20200605-p5500o.html?js-chunk-not-found-refresh=true
We tried this before and SFC sides with SCG Trust and are now it seems trying to get out of playing at the stadium they wanted built..... if it gets finished anytime soon. Only Smurf fans want a "home of football" in Sydney's eastern suburbs. It makes sense to put it closer to the geographic and population centre of Sydney. And why should it be located in Sydney. Simply, the number of registered players for teams that play in NSW which includes 3 federations (Football NSW, Northern NSW and Capital Football [since a number of teams from NSW play in their comp]). Canberra is around 3 hours from Sydney. The home of the biggest games the Socceroos have played is Stadium Australia (Homebush NSW) with 2005 Qualifying game and Uruguay and the 2015 Asian Cup Final win played their. EDIT: read that wrong, retracting statement
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+x+x+x+x+x+xSharing new boutique grounds with the NRL clubs won't solve a major issue we have in this country: Playing on sub-standard surfaces. AAMI Park invariably has a pristine pitch, and that's with NRL, Super Rugby and 2 A-League sides. Also look at England with Wigan, Huddersfield, Hull. It's not impossible. The bigger issue to my mind is the excessive distance between the goal line and the end stands. It's not so much League that's the problem, but the perceived need to accommodate Rugby, even when it's unlikely for high-level Rugby matches to be played at the ground. This is why Hindmarsh is the only decent football stadium in the country. Hindmarsh doesn't comply with FIFA's recommended dimensions behind the goal. FIFA's recommended fence line dimensions for World Cup games is 125x85m. AAMI Park is also too skinny at 82 metres wide and too long due to rugby as mentioned above at 135m. Wembley is something like 138x95m. It's not as big a problem as being below the capacity requirement for the Women's World Cup bid. A lot of modern stadiums, especially at world cups, always seem to be built with an excessive amount of distance between the goal and fans for a rectangular ground.  I hate this rounded bowl trend with modern stadiums, give us some fucking right angles Slightly curved side stands provide improved viewing for spectators in the front dozen or so rows of seating. It allows spectators a clear view of play in the corners without having to lean forward or stand to see past nearby spectators. With straight sided seating tiers the worst thing that can be done is to bring the stand closer to the pitch. Also done to allow the capacity to be increased
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SCG Trust powers expanded to include all stadiums Alexandra Smith June 23, 2020 — 7.36pm
The powerful Sydney Cricket & Sports Ground Trust will have control of all the state's stadiums as part of a new super agency to run NSW's sporting and entertainment venues.
Businessman and the chair of the SCG Trust Tony Shepherd will lead the body, to be created through a merger with Venues NSW, the government agency responsible for all stadiums including ANZ.
Sydney Olympics mastermind and SCG Trust deputy chair Rod McGeoch will be deputy chair of the new body and members of the board are likely to include radio broadcaster Alan Jones and Venues NSW chair Christine McLoughlin.
Mr Shepherd, who had planned to stand down as chair of the SCG Trust when his term expires in October, said the agency would put NSW "in a very strong position" for world class events.
"When we have the new Sydney Football Stadium, as well as ANZ and Bankwest at Parramatta, we will have the best stadiums in the country and this will put us in a strong position to bid for international tournaments in men and women's sport," Mr Shepherd said.
He said this could include the 2027 Rugby World Cup as well as major concerts.
"This is timely because COVID gave us time to pause and think and the Premier called this and she has absolutely made the right decision because this will make a big difference," Mr Shepherd said.
The merger comes after the Berejiklian government last month dumped its plan to redevelop ANZ Stadium and will redirect the $800 million saving to a new $3 billion infrastructure and job fund.
A new super trust, which would have included the SCG Trust, was announced by former premier Mike Baird in 2015 when he unveiled plans to spend $1.6 billion upgrading stadiums.
But in 2017, the state government reneged on the commitment to combine the SCG Trust with other organisations that run publicly owned sporting grounds and it remained a standalone entity.
Acting sports minister Geoff Lee said the new body, which is yet to be named, would attract blockbuster events and drive economic activity.
"This merger is about placing NSW in the best possible position to attract the most exciting and sought after events so the entire state can benefit from the economic stimulation," he said.
"We have made the investment in stadiums and infrastructure which are the envy of the world and now it’s time to ensure we get maximum returns."
An interim advisory board will oversee the development of the operating model for the body, and will include long-standing board members of the SCG Trust and Venues NSW.
The Trust, which manages the Moore Park sporting precinct, including the SCG and the Allianz Stadium site, has a reputation as one of Sydney’s most powerful institutions and exclusive clubs.
Other members of the high-powered SCG Trust board include former News Corp chairman John Hartigan and former Deutsche Bank and ABC chairman Maurice Newman.
All Venues NSW and SCG Trust contracts, agreements and membership entitlements with sporting codes, clubs, partners and members would "be honoured and preserved by the merged entity".
But Labor's sports spokeswoman Lynda Voltz said the merger was "too little, too late".
She said the Berejiklian government had ignored a key finding in a 2015 report into Sydney's sporting venues by former NSW Liberal leader John Brodgen.
"The Brogden report recommended [a super trust] be the first step in the stadium strategy, which would underpin Mike Baird's announcement that ANZ Stadium be the first to be redeveloped," Ms Voltz said.
"The failure to put the SCG Trust in Venues NSW from the beginning has led to the outcome we have today which is ANZ Stadium is not being redeveloped and the Sydney Football Stadium is."
The creation of the body was approved by NSW cabinet on Monday. https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/scg-trust-powers-expanded-to-include-all-stadiums-20200623-p555bm.html
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All signs point to a continuation of no representation from football people, and John Hartigan (who almost certainly leaked the list of banned fans to his partner Rebecca Wilson) keeps his gig.
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This is far more welcome, potentially: FFA bid to establish 'Home of Football' in time for 2023 World Cup By Dominic Bossi June 24, 2020 — 12.01am
Football Federation Australia has taken the first steps towards building a lasting legacy from a World Cup on home soil by signalling their intent to transform the old St George soccer stadium into a permanent 'home of football' in time for the 2023 Women's World Cup.
A joint Australia-New Zealand bid has emerged as the frontrunner to win the hosting rights for the tournament and if Friday morning's FIFA vote goes in their favour, the Matildas could have a state-of-the-art facility a stone's throw from Sydney's airport to call their training base.
FFA is lobbying the NSW government to help fund a training and administration centre that will serve as the long-term home for the Socceroos, Matildas and junior national teams down to under-15 age groups, as well as coaching and refereeing training centres - and has identified the old home ground of Johnny Warren's St George-Budapest as the preferred site.
The governing body on Tuesday lodged a formal inquiry with the venue's owners, Bayside Council, about using the Barton Park precinct.
"We received the letter this afternoon from James Johnson, FFA chief executive," Bayside mayor Joe Awada said. "We will go through what’s been offered and what the benefits are to the local community. I am happy to talk to Football Federation Australia and keep them it in mind but at this stage it is very early to say."
Bayside Council released a draft masterplan for the redevelopment of the site, which includes the provision for an elite football field and renovation of the existing stadium. Senior FFA sources suggested it is the preferred site for the proposed centre but not the only option available to the organisation.
The venue is regarded as an ideal location due to its historical and symbolic significance and proximity to the city and airport in the game's most popular state.
Should Australia and New Zealand's bid be selected ahead of Colombia in the early hours of Friday morning, FFA's hopes of seeking government funding will receive a significant boost.
As revealed by the Herald on June 5, the organisation will request the NSW government allocate funds previously reserved for the ANZ Stadium renovations to instead build grassroots football facilities, including its permanent home.
Much like St George Park in England, Clairefontaine in France or Coverciano in Italy, the proposed venue in Sydney will be used for community programs such as Miniroos and multicultural events when it is not being used by national teams.
FFA's home of football in Sydney will be complementary to a women's football facility in Melbourne, which senior FFA sources suggest will be used by the Matildas for games in Victoria.
Meanwhile, Australia and New Zealand will head into Friday morning's vote with no questions around support from their respective governments after the prime ministers of both countries reaffirmed their commitment to the tournament.
Having already pledged a combined $110 million towards hosting the tournament, New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Australian counterpart Scott Morrison released a joint statement on Tuesday, assuring FIFA's council of federal government support.
"An Australia-New Zealand FIFA Women’s World Cup would embody our passion for women’s football and proud commitment to equality and fairness, creating a profound and enduring legacy for the future of women’s football within the region and beyond," the joint statement read. https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/ffa-bid-to-establish-home-of-football-in-time-for-2023-world-cup-20200623-p555fh.html
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Having a national football centre for the FFA is definately something worth pushing for but the fact that its the old St George Budapesr stadium brought back to glory is what's really got me excited. The place is so historically important to the game and if they could make it capable of hosting a international youth game or two, I'd probably go to Sydney just for the occasion Hell southern expansion should have probably committed to rebuilding the place and playing there if they wanted people to get onside with them
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+xSCG Trust powers expanded to include all stadiums Alexandra Smith June 23, 2020 — 7.36pm
The powerful Sydney Cricket & Sports Ground Trust will have control of all the state's stadiums as part of a new super agency to run NSW's sporting and entertainment venues.
Businessman and the chair of the SCG Trust Tony Shepherd will lead the body, to be created through a merger with Venues NSW, the government agency responsible for all stadiums including ANZ.
Sydney Olympics mastermind and SCG Trust deputy chair Rod McGeoch will be deputy chair of the new body and members of the board are likely to include radio broadcaster Alan Jones and Venues NSW chair Christine McLoughlin.
Mr Shepherd, who had planned to stand down as chair of the SCG Trust when his term expires in October, said the agency would put NSW "in a very strong position" for world class events.
"When we have the new Sydney Football Stadium, as well as ANZ and Bankwest at Parramatta, we will have the best stadiums in the country and this will put us in a strong position to bid for international tournaments in men and women's sport," Mr Shepherd said.
He said this could include the 2027 Rugby World Cup as well as major concerts.
"This is timely because COVID gave us time to pause and think and the Premier called this and she has absolutely made the right decision because this will make a big difference," Mr Shepherd said.
The merger comes after the Berejiklian government last month dumped its plan to redevelop ANZ Stadium and will redirect the $800 million saving to a new $3 billion infrastructure and job fund.
A new super trust, which would have included the SCG Trust, was announced by former premier Mike Baird in 2015 when he unveiled plans to spend $1.6 billion upgrading stadiums.
But in 2017, the state government reneged on the commitment to combine the SCG Trust with other organisations that run publicly owned sporting grounds and it remained a standalone entity.
Acting sports minister Geoff Lee said the new body, which is yet to be named, would attract blockbuster events and drive economic activity.
"This merger is about placing NSW in the best possible position to attract the most exciting and sought after events so the entire state can benefit from the economic stimulation," he said.
"We have made the investment in stadiums and infrastructure which are the envy of the world and now it’s time to ensure we get maximum returns."
An interim advisory board will oversee the development of the operating model for the body, and will include long-standing board members of the SCG Trust and Venues NSW.
The Trust, which manages the Moore Park sporting precinct, including the SCG and the Allianz Stadium site, has a reputation as one of Sydney’s most powerful institutions and exclusive clubs.
Other members of the high-powered SCG Trust board include former News Corp chairman John Hartigan and former Deutsche Bank and ABC chairman Maurice Newman.
All Venues NSW and SCG Trust contracts, agreements and membership entitlements with sporting codes, clubs, partners and members would "be honoured and preserved by the merged entity".
But Labor's sports spokeswoman Lynda Voltz said the merger was "too little, too late".
She said the Berejiklian government had ignored a key finding in a 2015 report into Sydney's sporting venues by former NSW Liberal leader John Brodgen.
"The Brogden report recommended [a super trust] be the first step in the stadium strategy, which would underpin Mike Baird's announcement that ANZ Stadium be the first to be redeveloped," Ms Voltz said.
"The failure to put the SCG Trust in Venues NSW from the beginning has led to the outcome we have today which is ANZ Stadium is not being redeveloped and the Sydney Football Stadium is."
The creation of the body was approved by NSW cabinet on Monday. https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/scg-trust-powers-expanded-to-include-all-stadiums-20200623-p555bm.html
This is an absolute disaster for football in Sydney especially for WS Wanderers supporters. Baird got rid of the SCG Trust running Western Sydney Stadium and there has been peace since it opened. The hatred will be resurrected. In addition, have a crap AwFL person like Tony Shepherd In charge of the many stadia in Sydney is so backward. And considering the hatred that most AwFL people hold towards any code that does not involve 18 v 18, especially football 11 v 11. And could not come at a worse time with possible WWC 2023 bid looking like it might be awarded to Australia/NZ. This is simply the political faction in NSW Liberal (Conservative) Party waging war again.
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The stadium deal is a bit of a worry, it smells a bit like the QLD deal where no opposing stadiums can be built and clubs pay ridiculously high rental fees. It also sounds like there will be more concerts, so couple concerts with NRL and Rugby matches and the surface is going to be compromised. I really think clubs need to own their own stadiums, no matter how small they have to start off. The home of football in St George sounds good, hope that all gets up and done.
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Sorry, but I can't support the training base of the both our national teams being in Sydney. By all means build as much football infrastructure as you can, but Victoria has been pushing to get the Matildas home base in Melbourne and should get it. I'm getting a bit sick of the FFA leveraging the NSW Govt. They need to find a better balance between money and the best interests of Football.
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