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tony v_1 - 18 Jul 2020 5:07 PM
2020 wooden spooners shove it to Lynn fn Anderson s
fn board 

Bwahahahahaha...
You were pretty quiet for 75 minutes you Dibby you....


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Montoya, Holland,Lewis,cogger, prffffff
quietDemand 2018 what else is there 2 be happy maybe you may be what ever you smoke 
untill we buy some players this side will struggle
did your uncle Paul Kent say it’s almost a reserve grade 
side .... Newcastle in Newcastle next game I see another 
loss 
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tony v_1 - 18 Jul 2020 5:24 PM
Montoya, Holland,Lewis,cogger, prffffff
quietDemand 2018 what else is there 2 be happy maybe you may be what ever you smoke 
untill we buy some players this side will struggle
did your uncle Paul Kent say it’s almost a reserve grade 
side .... Newcastle in Newcastle next game I see another 
loss 


Yeah you tell him Big T

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tony v_1 - 18 Jul 2020 5:24 PM
Montoya, Holland,Lewis,cogger, prffffff
quietDemand 2018 what else is there 2 be happy maybe you may be what ever you smoke 
untill we buy some players this side will struggle
did your uncle Paul Kent say it’s almost a reserve grade 
side .... Newcastle in Newcastle next game I see another 
loss 

What and who the fvck were we supposed to buy after your mates left us moments away from another salary cap scandal with their backloaded deals???.... 
Your mates let Des punt Pritchard, Ennis, JR and who else???... Your mates re-signed Lichaa after he was sacked... Tour mates signed an untried coach to win an election while we were on the obvious slide...

Sooner your mates and their backers  are far removed from every part of both Leagues and Footy clubs the better... They only give a sh1t about one thing... themselves...

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Villi - 18 Jul 2020 5:37 PM
tony v_1 - 18 Jul 2020 5:24 PM


Yeah you tell him Big T

Cheerleading for a Dibby... Prisons changed you man...


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dman2018 - 18 Jul 2020 5:43 PM
Villi - 18 Jul 2020 5:37 PM

Cheerleading for a Dibby... Prisons changed you man...


As Fitty says.... ‘Get Rich or Die Tryin’
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Kurt Mann the most improved player in the game this year by a mile... Consistent in both D n A... Plays tough too...
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Villi - 18 Jul 2020 5:46 PM
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As Fitty says.... ‘Get Rich or Die Tryin’

I don’t care for Peter Fitzsimmons...
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dman2018 - 18 Jul 2020 5:47 PM
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I don’t care for Peter Fitzsimmons...

That's funny neither does his mum...
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I thought he did ok certainly in defence.
Our kicking game is what skowed the game and got us the lead in the first half. But losing Foran (I knew he wasnt returning) meant we were a genuine playmaker and decision maker short.

The wide pass was on especially as we lost 2 tackles from a 7 tackle set on a 6m gain. It's just unfortunate how it ended. It could have just been a knock on but it bloody cane of Montoyas knee and flew into Norman. 

Anything but that....

Lewis was great in defence. Foran had control in the first half but when he went off Lachy's shortcomings came through.
He is not a playmaker, no foresight, e.g. took a hit up on 4th (beat A.T to it) and we had no kicker on last tackle, which was 10 metres out.
10 minutes to go 30 metres out no defence coming at him 22-10 up, last tackle and kicks an awful bomb, Dragons try shortly after.
Just no nous. Is not a 7 or 6.
As I say great defender but a real enigma, where to play him. I reckon he might go OK with 9 on his back.
   

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I can see why Pay is rotating the halves an young players like Averillo and Wakeham

Lewis is OK as a half, in some first halves and when Foran is on the field, no doubt he is a much better defender...

Averillo and Wakeham have long term potential to be much better attacking players..

If Foran leaves we need to sign another experienced half, but my preference is to keep him...

Meaney was good at fullback pretty much what I expected...
  
If we keep Foran, Lewis Averillo and Wakeham, then that is the havles.

Meaney, Averliio and Hoppa can cover fullback...

A starting hooker would be my  preference and JMK can be 14.
Or sign an impact hooker like young Starling and start JMK.

So fullback slipped down my list of priorities after Meaney's performance..

And prop slipped down my list of priorities after Odgen's performance..

All that is needed is a good off season with Odgen losing a bit of weight, getting fitter, and getting some aggro...so perhaps a diet of raw meat  ... after Dman & I sit him down and explain how props at other NRL clubs don't respect him...  

(Don't worry Dman I've got you back ... I'll be the one hiding in the corner)..
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nodster - 18 Jul 2020 5:56 PM
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Lewis was great in defence. Foran had control in the first half but when he went off Lachy's shortcomings came through.
He is not a playmaker, no foresight, e.g. took a hit up on 4th (beat A.T to it) and we had no kicker on last tackle, which was 10 metres out.
10 minutes to go 30 metres out no defence coming at him 22-10 up, last tackle and kicks an awful bomb, Dragons try shortly after.
Just no nous. Is not a 7 or 6.
As I say great defender but a real enigma, where to play him. I reckon he might go OK with 9 on his back.
   

I also thought 9 for Lewis at one stage, but his passing and lack of leg speed worry me..

I now think start him in the halves, and move him to lock or dummy half later in the game..

His kicking game and defence would be an asset at dummy half or lock... 

If he gets smarter about playing within his limitations, or develops more instincts,  he might make it as a half, 
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That's what I have trying to say. I have nothing against Lewis but everytime he kicks it's a bl00dy bomb. No variety, no thought, no tactic just a bomb. I guess they Drags figured that out and used it against us.
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nodster - 18 Jul 2020 5:56 PM
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Lewis was great in defence. Foran had control in the first half but when he went off Lachy's shortcomings came through.
He is not a playmaker, no foresight, e.g. took a hit up on 4th (beat A.T to it) and we had no kicker on last tackle, which was 10 metres out.
10 minutes to go 30 metres out no defence coming at him 22-10 up, last tackle and kicks an awful bomb, Dragons try shortly after.
Just no nous. Is not a 7 or 6.
As I say great defender but a real enigma, where to play him. I reckon he might go OK with 9 on his back.
   

Gotsta agree with all bar last paragraph for the same reason I don’t see him as a lock... leg speed.... which makes it difficult to put him in second row also....
Where would Bellamy put him???.,,
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dman2018 - 18 Jul 2020 6:12 PM
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Gotsta agree with all bar last paragraph for the same reason I don’t see him as a lock... leg speed.... which makes it difficult to put him in second row also....
Where would Bellamy put him???.,,

I wish I knew where Bellamy would put him, he seems too good to just discard... 

He hasn't improved over the last 1-2 years, let's see what a new coach can do...

I know most fans don't want the club to go with Barrett, but the two things Barrett may do is improve our halves and our attack.
if Barrett has something as a coach then 21/22 should be fairly good seasons, if not then I'm happy to punt him, most of what he may add can be done in 2 years.. 
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hounddog - 18 Jul 2020 6:27 PM
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I wish I knew where Bellamy would put him, he seems too good to just discard... 

He hasn't improved over the last 1-2 years, let's see what a new coach can do...

I know most fans don't want the club to go with Barrett, but the two things Barrett may do is improve our halves and our attack.
if Barrett has something as a coach then 21/22 should be fairly good seasons, if not then I'm happy to punt him, most of what he may add can be done in 2 years.. 

If there is a single shred of truth at all... It can’t work if he plans on staying at the penny’s first the remainder of the year... 
If he can’t have a say in recruitment until November/ish, can’t start to install expectations in the current players, it’s pointless and just the excuse he’d love to leverage when things don’t go well...
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dman2018 - 18 Jul 2020 6:32 PM
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If there is a single shred of truth at all... It can’t work if he plans on staying at the penny’s first the remainder of the year... 
If he can’t have a say in recruitment until November/ish, can’t start to install expectations in the current players, it’s pointless and just the excuse he’d love to leverage when things don’t go well...

I think he can stay at Penny's and have a say in recruitment...

We should be firing the starting gun on recruitment about now, first question is -  who is the new coach?

So I expect the new coach should be official sometime in the next 2 weeks, some players and managers have probably been given a strong hint..

A new coach may not start work until November, the kind of overhaul our side needs, requires an off season...

Gerogie and they boys can work on a few things for the rest of the year,  may be the new coach comes on board once it is official..

In some ways his work at the Penny's is already done... why he might stay there is to help them win a GF... if he isn't yet on our payroll, that is fair... once we are paying him, he should be working for us..

However, you are right in that this is all media speculation, the new coach is not yet final and official and it might not be Barrett. 

One reason a new coach might not want to come on board for the rest of his year, is we don't have the talent, there is a limit to what they can do, if Georgie jags a couple of wins or good performances and the new coach comes on board and cops a bad loss, the media and some of our fans will be right into him and the board ... you know Tony will probably be one of them..
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hounddog - 18 Jul 2020 6:54 PM
dman2018 - 18 Jul 2020 6:32 PM

I think he can stay at Penny's and have a say in recruitment...

We should be firing the starting gun on recruitment about now, first question is -  who is the new coach?

So I expect the new coach should be official sometime in the next 2 weeks, some players and managers have probably been given a strong hint..

A new coach may not start work until November, the kind of overhaul our side needs, requires an off season...

Gerogie and they boys can work on a few things for the rest of the year,  may be the new coach comes on board once it is official..

In some ways his work at the Penny's is already done... why he might stay there is to help them win a GF... if he isn't yet on our payroll, that is fair... once we are paying him, he should be working for us..

However, you are right in that this is all media speculation, the new coach is not yet final and official and it might not be Barrett. 

One reason a new coach might not want to come on board for the rest of his year, is we don't have the talent, there is a limit to what they can do, if Georgie jags a couple of wins or good performances and the new coach comes on board and cops a bad loss, the media and some of our fans will be right into him and the board ... you know Tony will probably be one of them..

Can't serve two masters.  His duty as a panthers employee may be at odds with our expectation of him as our coach.  This may be especially the case in player recruitment.
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Even  Bankwest turf can’t save you tonight you flat track bully  pretenders...
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Can't serve two masters.  His duty as a panthers employee may be at odds with our expectation of him as our coach.  This may be especially the case in player recruitment.

If Barrett gets the Dogs job the Panthers have no choice but to put him on gardening leave... it is simply untenable...

From a Dogs perspective it’s simply unacceptable with what we have in front of us...

Last coach  in the world I want at our club with the exception of Brian Smith... 

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If Barrett gets the Dogs job the Panthers have no choice but to put him on gardening leave... it is simply untenable...

From a Dogs perspective it’s simply unacceptable with what we have in front of us...

Last coach  in the world I want at our club with the exception of Brian Smith... 

I’d rehire Pay in a Groucho Marx glasses and wigs before I chased Barrett... 
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The game would be better if the refs penalised voluntary tackles.
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Mooloolabadog - 18 Jul 2020 8:04 PM
The game would be better if the refs penalised voluntary tackles.

Horrid unpenalised practice...
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hounddog - 18 Jul 2020 6:27 PM
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I wish I knew where Bellamy would put him, he seems too good to just discard... 

He hasn't improved over the last 1-2 years, let's see what a new coach can do...

I know most fans don't want the club to go with Barrett, but the two things Barrett may do is improve our halves and our attack.
if Barrett has something as a coach then 21/22 should be fairly good seasons, if not then I'm happy to punt him, most of what he may add can be done in 2 years.. 

Lewis is 24 next month.
Why is he too good. Not improved in the last 1-2 years?
Should be his prime years for a half.
Sorry, but he is not a first grader in the halves. Never will be.
His only run today resulted in a surrender tackle.
I cannot believe that a player that is prepared to tackle like he does shirks running the ball.  



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DCE, what a difference a creative half can make.
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nodster - 18 Jul 2020 8:23 PM
hounddog - 18 Jul 2020 6:27 PM

Lewis is 24 next month.
Why is he too good. Not improved in the last 1-2 years?
Should be his prime years for a half.
Sorry, but he is not a first grader in the halves. Never will be.
His only run today resulted in a surrender tackle.
I cannot believe that a player that is prepared to tackle like he does shirks running the ball.  



You are right he doesn't run enough and rarely makes an impact when he does.
I'll give him one season with a new coach to show some improvement.
I think Wakeham needed a rest this game...
Injury to Foz really cost us, if he stays on we probably win.
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Burton/Walters Starling/McInnes gotsta be top of hot list right???.,, 
keep on on Smith/Smith/Grant/Benji  goings on and have a sneaky word to Walters manager...

oh and get Griff or Brown or Shane Warne...
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dman2018 - 18 Jul 2020 8:40 PM
Burton/Walters Starling/McInnes gotsta be top of hot list right???.,, 
keep on on Smith/Smith/Grant/Benji  goings on and have a sneaky word to Walters manager...

oh and get Griff or Brown or Shane Warne...

I like Walters, good player.
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I like Walters, good player.

You just like your Billys... 
Meett BigT, Villi and I for hobby bubbly and a game of chess in Liverpool mall tomorrow... We’re gather signatures... 
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