Like it or not, their surnames are Anglo, which was stated in my original comment. That is what my reference to - I didn't feel it necessary to repeat it in my last post.

As for cheap insults, I won't enter into such pathetic rhetoric.

That you describe North and Thompson as 'Anglo' demonstrates how intellectually unhinged you are.

Neither support or disprove really.

As I have previously said, i'm not saying players are only being selected on their ethnicity. There are people with other ethnicities in the Socceroos and there always will be if they are among the best in the country. Hence no point discussing Schwarzer, Kruse & Bresciano.

What I am saying is that it seems clear they want an Anglo element to the team, which is why these same players older faces keep getting selected.

As for the others, they can be divided into two groups:

Players without other eligibility (that I know of - could be wrong)
Leckie - Has been injured, so not sure what he has to do with this.
Davidson - Has played part of one Socceroos game after less than 30 games in Europe, most of which in the Portuguese 2nd division. I haven't followed his career closely enough to know if he is worthy of it, but would have thought Zullo be ahead of him in the pecking order.
Oar - I don't believe he has any other ethnicity

Players with other eligibility
McGowan - Has Scottish eligibility, yet on the whole has been welcomed with open arms to the Socceroos.
Herd - More or less the same as McGowan. (only that he has started to get some flack for pulling out of the squad a few times with injury)
Lowry - Played youth for Ireland, then decided to play for the Socceroos. Also welcomed with open arms (not receiving the same treatment as Porta etc.)

None of these three players have been told 'you have to call the coach and tell them you want to play for Australia' or that they aren't Aussie enough. They haven't really been questioned about their allegiance other than Herd after pulling out 3/4 times. It is just accepted 'they're Aussie'. Can add to that Bradden Inman, Rhys Williams and the English born Neil Kilkenny.


Let us not forget, Sasa Ognenovski had to wait until being aged 30 odd to get a game for the Socceroos. This was after he made himself eligible to play for Macedonia, after being ignored for a long time by the Socceroos. This and the constant player drain to other European countries, where the players seem to be willing to play for Australia, but ignored by the FFA.

We also know for a fact, that A League players are preferred for selection for some youth Asian tournaments and not players playing in Europe, despite the fact the European players are better, more experienced and we have failed to qualify for tournaments (Olympics) because of it.

But on the whole we are talking about the 'fringe players' to the national team. The regulars have a mix of Anglo and non Anglo names. It just seems as though there is an Anglo preference in rounding out the squad and that there is a double standard regarding dual eligibility based on the other nationality of the player.

Edited by canehdrian13: 1/10/2012 09:12:58 AM

The latest update from overnight http://osaussies.com/sunday-wrap/

Edited by Voice ofReason: 4/10/2012 11:08:38 AM

Brosque, Kruse, Spiranovic, Federici, Rukavytsia, Zullo, Sarota - no, I'm pretty comfortable that NT selections are not racially based.

According to the Aston Villa forum, it seems as though Holman is the overwhelming choice for Man of the Match. He had two wonderful strikes that nearly found the back of the net. If the first shot went in it would have easily been contender for goal of the season, only for it to be tipped over the bar by Ben Foster.

anyone watch ruka's game, seems he got the full 90 and they won 2-0, no goals or assists but I am guessing it was mot a bad performance

Ruka live now vs Wolfsburg, playing up front. Holman playing now vs West Brom

Who cares how good they are playing atm because we know what HO is going to do right?

Carney, Archie, Jedinak, North will be the first names on the list even though they don't play.

That carnt is setting us back 10 years.

Leckie, Davidson, McGowan, Herd, Lowry, Oar, Schwarzer, Kruse, Bresciano...do these players support or disprove your claim.

Edited by Joffa: 30/9/2012 08:23:46 PM

Never said there were none, however the oldies who are being kept around all seem to have anglo surnames, chosen ahead of a variety of alternatives.

eg. North, Carney, Thompson, Neill getting selected over eg. Zullo, Sarota, Porta, Babalj, Rukavytsa. I'm not saying its racism, but I do get the distinct impression they want to keep a certain Anglo element in the team - in order to diffuse from the view 'Sokkah is Wogball'.

After all, the biggest knock i've heard of Porta the last years is 'does he speak English, he's not Aussie enough'.

Seems to be the exact same double standard applied to any other mixed culture Australian (eg. Gulum), as opposed to any half English player who may have been born here and not back since, who nobody ever disputes.



Edited by canehdrian13: 30/9/2012 08:13:27 PM

Cooly slotted in by Babalj.

Also, good to hear that Porta is scoring. Hasn't faired well OS in the past.

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That's why we give them shortened nicknames like Og, and Bresh. Hide their ethnicity;)

Because there are no Socceroos with wog names...

If he keeps scoring, I don't see why he wouldn't get a call up even if it's for a friendly.

Edited by Roar_Brisbane : 30/9/2012 04:27:58 PM

Cap him!

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So what - from the stats page I found its 7 goals in 11 games (i'm not sure if thats including the overnight game - might make it 9 goals in 12, or may already be included).

Doesn't mean he deserves a Socceroos call up - he doesn't have a 'strayan name, like Thompson or Carney. He's also played too many games this last year to deserve a call up.

if porta gets a run for the nt it could be a silver lining. Id rather a young up and coming player get given a run but porta balances the team as archie thompson is the only specialist striker in the nt and heoften subs on to play rm

Won't impress Holger. Just outside the 6 yard box is a tap in and not worth noting.

no the worst goal ive ever seen either.
babaljs goal

youtube: DNb5UKNjK

Great to see Babalj score on his dream debut with his boyhood club. Hopefully a start isn't too far off. We need a young striker of his like badly!

Holger will still idnore them and pick has beens like Neill,Carney and co playing in mickey mouse leagues.

I think I saw Thomas Oar this morning.(Utrecht-Vitesse)
Jpanese commentator was saying he was dangerous as he sent in good cross ball over and over from left. I am a littl bit surprised to find he is only 20.

As Japanese was on the bench for Utrecht while Japanse was on the pitch playing for Vitesse, Japanese commentary was on Vitesse side.

babalj scored nice.

A look at some of the Aussies in action overnight

http://osaussies.com/overnight-aussie-update/

Babalj scored his first goal for Red Star too. They won 3-1

Last season was a write off for him as far as injuries were concerned hence the lack of news from him. He did return ear the end of season to bag some goals. Seems to be good at ghosting into the box. Wins back possession well too

Oar and Sarota just lost 1-2, Sarota played well as a midefield destroyer, Oar was, interesting. The team doesn't seem to use Oar as often as they should, he seems to get it without much support. He likes like he's in the team purely because of his crosses and set pieces.