Najjarine can be better than Arzani: Brattan


Najjarine can be better than Arzani: Brattan

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JayEss - 8 Jan 2021 11:58 PM
The loan to Newcastle this season might turn out to be a great career move.

He needs full SEASONS in the a-league though, not just flashy season, before his agent tries to cash in and he's warming a bench in Europe for 3 years or so before coming home with his tail between his legs like so many before him.

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Barca4Life - 8 Jan 2021 9:42 PM
Ive decided to bring it up and after my doubts on him originally in the covid bubble.

Tthe first two games in he's finally performing from the original hype, the kid doesnt realise how good he can become with magic left foot (aka wand) he's got.

Every time Newcastle looked to create a chance he's been a major part of it, best creative talent we had since Rogic.

Just shows how impotent game time is for these kids to develop overall, this period might be a blessing for Aus football in the long haul.

Good point this last one - i actually think COVID along with the Olyroos qualifying for the Olympics will be the 2 best things have have happened to positively effect our national team in many many years. 

And will be proof also that a youth quota is required. The fact that Matty Simon continues to get a contract every season that the integration of youth into the A league is failing. 
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Finally getting to see what Brattan was talking about a couple of years ago, doesn't rely on pace, has had some real good touches and played some nice balls, splitting the defence, his delivery of the ball into the box was also good and in the first two games on occasions he has beaten defenders in tight situations with ease.

Dorrans tried to get into his head, tried to intimidate him and had to pull him back and hack him from behind to stop him. 
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This kid looks the goods
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He looks a bit different, we have seen some decent midfielders in the last few weeks, but they are either defensive mids, box to box mids or wide mids, the guy has that bit of difference, he's a ball player, we don't see too many of them in this country.

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Maybe it was the comparisons to Arzani that put me off. I was pretty critical of Najjarine's fleeting appearances for City, but it looks like we're playing to his strengths - ie. not giving him 15 minutes shunted out to the wing when chasing a game. He's revelling in a free central role. Add some goals and he's as good a Petratos replacement as we could hope for. I think he has a higher ceiling than Dimi, but also perhaps suffers from making some things look easy. (Just been listening to commentators rave about Lachlan Rose all game because he runs fast and looks like he's trying hard.)
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He's a genuine 10, a position we've alw strugg with.
Hopefully, he won't dissp in big games like Rogic.
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A bit soon, I'm excited but let's just wait before we start cradling the balls
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"We haven't seen anything from him yet."The knock last year on Arzani was that he didn't work hard enough - "to be honest, everyone works harder than Daniel," Brattan joked."

Now I see why Arzani was never given a shot in Europe... doesn't train well.. why on earth did he even leave then? bizarre advice.
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jas88 - 11 Jan 2021 11:39 AM
"We haven't seen anything from him yet."The knock last year on Arzani was that he didn't work hard enough - "to be honest, everyone works harder than Daniel," Brattan joked."

Now I see why Arzani was never given a shot in Europe... doesn't train well.. why on earth did he even leave then? bizarre advice.

Don’t forget the ACL too. But wouldn’t every Aus player go to Europe if given the chance? Arzani back in 1st team squad again so must be doing at least some hard work at training now
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jas88 - 11 Jan 2021 11:39 AM
"We haven't seen anything from him yet."The knock last year on Arzani was that he didn't work hard enough - "to be honest, everyone works harder than Daniel," Brattan joked."

Now I see why Arzani was never given a shot in Europe... doesn't train well.. why on earth did he even leave then? bizarre advice.

Doesn't really say its in training. I reckon he was talking about Daniel not coming back to defend in games.
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lebo_roo - 11 Jan 2021 12:46 PM
jas88 - 11 Jan 2021 11:39 AM

Doesn't really say its in training. I reckon he was talking about Daniel not coming back to defend in games.

you don't play talent like this because you want them to defend anymorethan you get a CB expecting regular goals from them.  this modern coaching infatuation with creative players defending is killing the players that make football special to watch.  Ozil  and Rodrigo James recent examples.internationally.
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Enzo Bearzot - 11 Jan 2021 4:37 PM
lebo_roo - 11 Jan 2021 12:46 PM

you don't play talent like this because you want them to defend anymorethan you get a CB expecting regular goals from them.  this modern coaching infatuation with creative players defending is killing the players that make football special to watch.  Ozil  and Rodrigo James recent examples.internationally.

Well said 
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Enzo Bearzot - 11 Jan 2021 4:37 PM
lebo_roo - 11 Jan 2021 12:46 PM

you don't play talent like this because you want them to defend anymorethan you get a CB expecting regular goals from them.  this modern coaching infatuation with creative players defending is killing the players that make football special to watch.  Ozil  and Rodrigo James recent examples.internationally.

Not saying i dont agree with you. 
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Balin Trev - 8 Jan 2021 11:34 PM
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Saw pics of him training with Senior team just before their last match but didn’t make 1st team or Jong Utrecht squads 😡 Has there ever been a more frustrating start to a Euro career than his?! Would be very surprised if he ever plays in 1st Utrecht team again at this stage

You don't seem to be anywhere near as harsh/brash and/or critical towards FC Utrecht and their manager, as you were towards that of Celtic and Lennon with regards to Arzani's lack of playing time🤔.....

It's nice seeing this calming side of you 🙂
Maybe my advice managed to somehow find it's way to you subconscious after all 😉😁

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BrisbaneBhoy - 12 Jan 2021 6:47 AM
Balin Trev - 8 Jan 2021 11:34 PM

You don't seem to be anywhere near as harsh/brash and/or critical towards FC Utrecht and their manager, as you were towards that of Celtic and Lennon with regards to Arzani's lack of playing time🤔.....

It's nice seeing this calming side of you 🙂
Maybe my advice managed to somehow find it's way to you subconscious after all 😉😁

😂😂😂
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sub007 - 9 Jan 2021 12:01 AM
I saw bits and pieces of the game and he looked great. He looks way better centrally than as a 10.

Interestingly DDS as we know is also very good technically and has a low centre of gravity but has done the opposite and looks way better out wide. Any idea why this is the case?

DDS has too much going on in his head. You play him out wide and his options are less and he makes decisions better. He has all the skills - just not the decision making. I think Staj will be a good for him.
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BrisbaneBhoy - 12 Jan 2021 6:47 AM
Balin Trev - 8 Jan 2021 11:34 PM

You don't seem to be anywhere near as harsh/brash and/or critical towards FC Utrecht and their manager, as you were towards that of Celtic and Lennon with regards to Arzani's lack of playing time🤔.....

It's nice seeing this calming side of you 🙂
Maybe my advice managed to somehow find it's way to you subconscious after all 😉😁

Arzani has been subbed on in 4 Senior games at Utrecht- just 1 assist. Sadly, this is way more than he ever played for celtic, before injury under Rodgers and after recovery under Lennon. Also, Eredivisie is about the 12th best league in world, where SPFL is about 25th - still some hope Arzani can do ok in Europe🤞 
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patjennings - 12 Jan 2021 9:22 AM
sub007 - 9 Jan 2021 12:01 AM

DDS has too much going on in his head. You play him out wide and his options are less and he makes decisions better. He has all the skills - just not the decision making. I think Staj will be a good for him.

The last couple of games I've watched DDS he's played well. I reckon he gets unfairly targeted - maybe because there was so much expectation/ hype with him when he started
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Balin Trev - 12 Jan 2021 9:48 AM
BrisbaneBhoy - 12 Jan 2021 6:47 AM

Arzani has been subbed on in 4 Senior games at Utrecht- just 1 assist. Sadly, this is way more than he ever played for celtic, before injury under Rodgers and after recovery under Lennon. Also, Eredivisie is about the 12th best league in world, where SPFL is about 25th - still some hope Arzani can do ok in Europe🤞 

That's being kind to SPFL, oops sorry, that's being unkind, it's probably better than that, but SPFL is just not my cup of tea.

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robbos - 13 Jan 2021 6:13 AM
Balin Trev - 12 Jan 2021 9:48 AM

That's being kind to SPFL, oops sorry, that's being unkind, it's probably better than that, but SPFL is just not my cup of tea.

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BrisbaneBhoy - 12 Jan 2021 6:47 AM
Balin Trev - 8 Jan 2021 11:34 PM

You don't seem to be anywhere near as harsh/brash and/or critical towards FC Utrecht and their manager, as you were towards that of Celtic and Lennon with regards to Arzani's lack of playing time🤔.....


If Karamoko Dembele can't get a run Arzani was never going to get one..
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patjennings - 12 Jan 2021 9:22 AM
sub007 - 9 Jan 2021 12:01 AM

DDS has too much going on in his head. You play him out wide and his options are less and he makes decisions better. He has all the skills - just not the decision making. I think Staj will be a good for him.

Yeah that makes sense.

He played well in the last game, fingers crossed it continues. .

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jas88 - 13 Jan 2021 10:56 AM
BrisbaneBhoy - 12 Jan 2021 6:47 AM

If Karamoko Dembele can't get a run Arzani was never going to get one..

Fair point.
As the season is now pretty much done, I wouldn't complain too much if a few of the younger lads on the fringes of the first team get some decent game time over the next couple of months - Dembele in particular. 

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Whats the most concerning is Sarota, Oar and Zullo were basically regulars at Utretcht... Oar mostly.
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Can he be better than McGree?
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soccerfoo - 19 Jan 2021 5:52 PM
Can he be better than McGree?

Very different player, McGree is a No 8, box to box. We have lots of those.

Ramy Najjarine is a very, very rare breed in Australian football, we don't create too many No 10s in this country.

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robbos - 19 Jan 2021 7:31 PM
soccerfoo - 19 Jan 2021 5:52 PM

Very different player, McGree is a No 8, box to box. We have lots of those.

Ramy Najjarine is a very, very rare breed in Australian football, we don't create too many No 10s in this country.

We might produce more no.10's if once they got to 18 - 19 they weren't moved to wing or no.6 etc in favour of a marquee or older player. Rami had to go to jets and is lucky to be playing in his natural position. 
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JDB03 - 19 Jan 2021 7:38 PM
robbos - 19 Jan 2021 7:31 PM

We might produce more no.10's if once they got to 18 - 19 they weren't moved to wing or no.6 etc in favour of a marquee or older player. Rami had to go to jets and is lucky to be playing in his natural position. 

I haven't seen too many No 10s in all my watching of Australian football, not too many creative players.

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