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+x+xLIberals - master negotiators. FMD....robodebt, Jobkeeper oversight by billions, Laughable Vaccine rollout now this....the list is endless with these murdoch stooges. Does labor not have anyone better than Albanese to counter? What's wrong with Albo out of interest? -PB just seems to be a nothing leader....nothing against him...just nothing for him.
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+x+x+xLIberals - master negotiators. FMD....robodebt, Jobkeeper oversight by billions, Laughable Vaccine rollout now this....the list is endless with these murdoch stooges. Does labor not have anyone better than Albanese to counter? What's wrong with Albo out of interest? -PB just seems to be a nothing leader....nothing against him...just nothing for him. The problem is that a lot people just think he's the opposition and a nobody. Sadly people want someone like scomo and trump because a lot of people have been conditioned to believe strong men and believe scomos daggy dad routine is the go
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+x+x+x+xLIberals - master negotiators. FMD....robodebt, Jobkeeper oversight by billions, Laughable Vaccine rollout now this....the list is endless with these murdoch stooges. Does labor not have anyone better than Albanese to counter? What's wrong with Albo out of interest? -PB just seems to be a nothing leader....nothing against him...just nothing for him. The problem is that a lot people just think he's the opposition and a nobody. Sadly people want someone like scomo and trump because a lot of people have been conditioned to believe strong men and believe scomos daggy dad routine is the go I'm a fan of Rudd - more so now he is out of politics and he is opposite of strongman. With albo - he just seems to not really get cut through with his comments etc. I can never figure out why they are not hitting the liberals hard - look at some of the scandelous things that are happeing or have happened. FFS Robodebt - how has nobody paid for that?
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Every item is linked mostly to a mainstream news source. They should keep pushing it. Keep going. Get people talking about it. Have their journalists front leaders at press conferences and then air the awkward response to prove they know they've done wrong. Why don't the press say clearly when leaders don't answer the question? They rarely do.
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+xEvery item is linked mostly to a mainstream news source. They should keep pushing it. Keep going. Get people talking about it. Have their journalists front leaders at press conferences and then air the awkward response to prove they know they've done wrong. Why don't the press say clearly when leaders don't answer the question? They rarely do. Sadly our media have become so fearful to ask the tough questions.
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Haven't been through the whole list but is there one where they have half a billion dollars to a mob in Townsville for climate change research that didn't even apply for it?
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I think it's there. Number 38.
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+xI think it's there. Number 38. I'm astounded on how this has been swept under the rug . But I'm guessing the laws about journos getting arrested for disclosing these things scared them off. Australia has slowly been getting our rights eroded and we're none the wiser
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+xHaven't been through the whole list but is there one where they have half a billion dollars to a mob in Townsville for climate change research that didn't even apply for it? Yeh marine park authority, Turnbull did that -PB
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+x+xHaven't been through the whole list but is there one where they have half a billion dollars to a mob in Townsville for climate change research that didn't even apply for it? Yeh marine park authority, Turnbull did that -PB Turnbull got some heat didn't he??
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+x+x+xHaven't been through the whole list but is there one where they have half a billion dollars to a mob in Townsville for climate change research that didn't even apply for it? Yeh marine park authority, Turnbull did that -PB Turnbull got some heat didn't he?? Not enough. It seems if you give away Cartier watches you need to resign but give away $400 + million and you can keep your job. Gladys managed to pork barrel electorates with $250 million and then shredded all the evidence, paper and digital, and besides a day or 2 in the paper that was it. Fuck Australia is fucked sometimes.
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All the alleged "lefty" media are interested discussing is identity politics.
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So Facebook will publish news again on their feeds. Wonder who blinked??
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+xSo Facebook will publish news again on their feeds. Wonder who blinked?? All depends on how the new code will look. FB saying Govt have walked back changes, but that would be just "face" saving.
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+x+xSo Facebook will publish news again on their feeds. Wonder who blinked?? All depends on how the new code will look. FB saying Govt have walked back changes, but that would be just "face" saving. Facebook don’t have to pay, also have a caveat to turn off news again. Govt totally backed down. All Facebook have to do is ‘negotiate in good faith’. No resolution needed at all. They got what they wanted.
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+x+x+xSo Facebook will publish news again on their feeds. Wonder who blinked?? All depends on how the new code will look. FB saying Govt have walked back changes, but that would be just "face" saving. Facebook don’t have to pay, also have a caveat to turn off news again. Govt totally backed down. All Facebook have to do is ‘negotiate in good faith’. No resolution needed at all. They got what they wanted. You should see sky news . They're claiming that facey backed down to the government. It's promoted on YouTube for some fucking reason
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With developments on the Brittany Higgins story coming thick and fast this morning, here’s another piece of the puzzle that should not fly under the radar. A letter was tabled in the Senate this morning from Simon Birmingham, the finance minister and leader of the government in the chamber.
The letter contains a troubling word. The word is Cabinet.
Let me step you through this.
Labor moved an order for the production of documents in the Senate yesterday relating to the reviews currently being conducted by Scott Morrison’s departmental head into whether there were communications between his staff and Higgins – the staffer who says she was raped by a colleague in 2019. Morrison has said his staff knew about the allegations on February 12 this year, when the PMO was approached by Samantha Maiden from news.com.au with questions about the alleged incident. But Higgins has suggested that isn’t right. Phil Gaetjens (Morrison’s departmental head and former chief of staff) has been given the task of getting to the bottom of things. Just another point of context: Morrison has given no commitment to release the Gaetjens review of staff communications once the secretary completes it and hands it over. Now, Birmingham has written back to Labor saying the review Gaetjens is putting together is “for the deliberations of Cabinet”.
Why does this matter? Invoking that designation matters. It means that if the prime minister chooses not to release the Gaetjens review, there is no prospect of gaining access to that document under Australia’s Freedom of Information regime.
By designating it as a Cabinet document, the government will also be able to rebuff any order by the Senate to produce it. It also means that staff from Morrison’s department will have a shield allowing them not to answer questions when they next appear before Senate estimates.
It means we’ll know what the government wants to tell us.
How good is ScoMo's Democracy?
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Love Paul Keating. Still one of the greats. “They are his ‘opinion’ dressed up as facts – his interpretation of how a retired superannuant should conduct their life and the rate at which they should spend their savings, with the emphasis on ‘their’ savings,” he told this masthead. Mr Keating said Mr Callaghan based his case around the “efficiency” of savings use, noting former Treasury economist Henry Ergas recently wrote this was not an economic term but a synonym for what the review thought ought to happen.“Ergas, of course, is completely right,” he said. He said that policy line had been run by an almost “quasi-religious sect”, including Mr Callaghan, the Grattan Institute’s John Daley and Brendan Coates, and former productivity commissioner for a review of super Karen Chester.......“Amazingly, the Callaghan line is: you enjoy a tax concession in retirement – we therefore, the government, will tell you how to spend your savings. Really?
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/keating-trading-off-fears-and-uncertainty-on-superannuation-retirement-review-chairman-20210226-p5764f.html
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+xLove Paul Keating. Still one of the greats. “They are his ‘opinion’ dressed up as facts – his interpretation of how a retired superannuant should conduct their life and the rate at which they should spend their savings, with the emphasis on ‘their’ savings,” he told this masthead. Mr Keating said Mr Callaghan based his case around the “efficiency” of savings use, noting former Treasury economist Henry Ergas recently wrote this was not an economic term but a synonym for what the review thought ought to happen.“Ergas, of course, is completely right,” he said. He said that policy line had been run by an almost “quasi-religious sect”, including Mr Callaghan, the Grattan Institute’s John Daley and Brendan Coates, and former productivity commissioner for a review of super Karen Chester.......“Amazingly, the Callaghan line is: you enjoy a tax concession in retirement – we therefore, the government, will tell you how to spend your savings. Really?
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/keating-trading-off-fears-and-uncertainty-on-superannuation-retirement-review-chairman-20210226-p5764f.html
Keating is of course right. I agree. Very pissed that the Libs are trying to walk back increases in super.
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+x+x+x+xLIberals - master negotiators. FMD....robodebt, Jobkeeper oversight by billions, Laughable Vaccine rollout now this....the list is endless with these murdoch stooges. Does labor not have anyone better than Albanese to counter? What's wrong with Albo out of interest? -PB just seems to be a nothing leader....nothing against him...just nothing for him. The problem is that a lot people just think he's the opposition and a nobody. Sadly people want someone like scomo and trump because a lot of people have been conditioned to believe strong men and believe scomos daggy dad routine is the go You think ScoMo projects the Strong Man image ala Trump? Little Johnny Howard. Another Strong Man? Man of Steel..lol Gimme a break. Electing a leader is a popularity contest in reverse. The least unlikable win. It also helps if they are somewhat real. Shorten, Plibersek and Bowen are thoroughly unlikably fake and as far removed from traditional Labor voters as you could get. Hence the massive swing against in Labor heartland Melb and Syd West. As for Albanese, no-one believes that he has the character to withstand being rolled at the first chance.
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+x+x+x+x+xLIberals - master negotiators. FMD....robodebt, Jobkeeper oversight by billions, Laughable Vaccine rollout now this....the list is endless with these murdoch stooges. Does labor not have anyone better than Albanese to counter? What's wrong with Albo out of interest? -PB just seems to be a nothing leader....nothing against him...just nothing for him. The problem is that a lot people just think he's the opposition and a nobody. Sadly people want someone like scomo and trump because a lot of people have been conditioned to believe strong men and believe scomos daggy dad routine is the go You think ScoMo projects the Strong Man image ala Trump? Little Johnny Howard. Another Strong Man? Man of Steel..lol Gimme a break. Electing a leader is a popularity contest in reverse. The least unlikable win. It also helps if they are somewhat real. Shorten, Plibersek and Bowen are thoroughly unlikably fake and as far removed from traditional Labor voters as you could get. Hence the massive swing against in Labor heartland Melb and Syd West. As for Albanese, no-one believes that he has the character to withstand being rolled at the first chance. He can't though lol, it ain't like it still is for the LNP, can't just turn over a leader in the caucus room now. -PB
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+x+x+x+x+x+xLIberals - master negotiators. FMD....robodebt, Jobkeeper oversight by billions, Laughable Vaccine rollout now this....the list is endless with these murdoch stooges. Does labor not have anyone better than Albanese to counter? What's wrong with Albo out of interest? -PB just seems to be a nothing leader....nothing against him...just nothing for him. The problem is that a lot people just think he's the opposition and a nobody. Sadly people want someone like scomo and trump because a lot of people have been conditioned to believe strong men and believe scomos daggy dad routine is the go You think ScoMo projects the Strong Man image ala Trump? Little Johnny Howard. Another Strong Man? Man of Steel..lol Gimme a break. Electing a leader is a popularity contest in reverse. The least unlikable win. It also helps if they are somewhat real. Shorten, Plibersek and Bowen are thoroughly unlikably fake and as far removed from traditional Labor voters as you could get. Hence the massive swing against in Labor heartland Melb and Syd West. As for Albanese, no-one believes that he has the character to withstand being rolled at the first chance. He can't though lol, it ain't like it still is for the LNP, can't just turn over a leader in the caucus room now. -PB Well of course a Labor leader can be rolled. Its just a matter of votes.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xLIberals - master negotiators. FMD....robodebt, Jobkeeper oversight by billions, Laughable Vaccine rollout now this....the list is endless with these murdoch stooges. Does labor not have anyone better than Albanese to counter? What's wrong with Albo out of interest? -PB just seems to be a nothing leader....nothing against him...just nothing for him. The problem is that a lot people just think he's the opposition and a nobody. Sadly people want someone like scomo and trump because a lot of people have been conditioned to believe strong men and believe scomos daggy dad routine is the go You think ScoMo projects the Strong Man image ala Trump? Little Johnny Howard. Another Strong Man? Man of Steel..lol Gimme a break. Electing a leader is a popularity contest in reverse. The least unlikable win. It also helps if they are somewhat real. Shorten, Plibersek and Bowen are thoroughly unlikably fake and as far removed from traditional Labor voters as you could get. Hence the massive swing against in Labor heartland Melb and Syd West. As for Albanese, no-one believes that he has the character to withstand being rolled at the first chance. He can't though lol, it ain't like it still is for the LNP, can't just turn over a leader in the caucus room now. -PB Well of course a Labor leader can be rolled. Its just a matter of votes. Of the entire Labour movement membership lol -PB
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Got to say I can't see why this bloke accused of rape should be named yet. Talk about ruining your reputation if untrue. His life will be fucked forever. If true then he deserves everything coming his way but the screaming on the sidelines to name and shame him is disgraceful. So much for the presumption of innocence.
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+xGot to say I can't see why this bloke accused of rape should be named yet. Talk about ruining your reputation if untrue. His life will be fucked forever. If true then he deserves everything coming his way but the screaming on the sidelines to name and shame him is disgraceful. So much for the presumption of innocence. Which one, the Liberal Minister or the Labor one that Henderson threw out there last night? The Liberal one can't be criminally investigated because the victim is no longer with us and there is a lot of deflection going on to prevent any sort of investigation going on. I have to ask though, why hasn't the Attorney General been more involved in this? Seems very much in his portfolio... The Labor one I think is a bit more obvious who they're referring too. It was investigated and was dismissed. That's not to say it shouldn't be investigated again if its legitimate and there's more evidence which I heard there is.
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+x+xGot to say I can't see why this bloke accused of rape should be named yet. Talk about ruining your reputation if untrue. His life will be fucked forever. If true then he deserves everything coming his way but the screaming on the sidelines to name and shame him is disgraceful. So much for the presumption of innocence. Which one, the Liberal Minister or the Labor one that Henderson threw out there last night? The Liberal one can't be criminally investigated because the victim is no longer with us and there is a lot of deflection going on to prevent any sort of investigation going on. I have to ask though, why hasn't the Attorney General been more involved in this? Seems very much in his portfolio... The Labor one I think is a bit more obvious who they're referring too. It was investigated and was dismissed. That's not to say it shouldn't be investigated again if its legitimate and there's more evidence which I heard there is. Irrelevant. I'm not saying don't investigate it. Go for their lives. But until then.....as above.
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+x+x+xGot to say I can't see why this bloke accused of rape should be named yet. Talk about ruining your reputation if untrue. His life will be fucked forever. If true then he deserves everything coming his way but the screaming on the sidelines to name and shame him is disgraceful. So much for the presumption of innocence. Which one, the Liberal Minister or the Labor one that Henderson threw out there last night? The Liberal one can't be criminally investigated because the victim is no longer with us and there is a lot of deflection going on to prevent any sort of investigation going on. I have to ask though, why hasn't the Attorney General been more involved in this? Seems very much in his portfolio... The Labor one I think is a bit more obvious who they're referring too. It was investigated and was dismissed. That's not to say it shouldn't be investigated again if its legitimate and there's more evidence which I heard there is. Irrelevant. I'm not saying don't investigate it. Go for their lives. But until then.....as above. I'm not saying either person is guilty. I'm saying that there is no investigation happening at the moment. There's also something to be said about a cabinet minister being held to a far higher standard than the average joe. People get stood down from their positions while investigations take place for far less...
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Farking scomo. Always acts like he's the most surprised man in the world when something goes wrong. He's either completely out of the loop or putting on a giant act with that daggy dad schtick of his.
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+xFarking scomo. Always acts like he's the most surprised man in the world when something goes wrong. He's either completely out of the loop or putting on a giant act with that daggy dad schtick of his. Ding, ding, ding. Acting dumb is the potent weapon in a pollie arsenal. For example Rudd is universally despised because he comes across like a smarmy patronising intellectual dipshit who you roll your eyes at when they open their mouth. Reminds us all of someone when they talk football eh? :D As for the allegations they need to investigated & illuminated without question. Anyone defending this is a horrible human being.
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