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+x+x+x" oh but none of our players are 'Celtic quality' " (Whatever the fuck that is) Awer mabil, who isn't even a starter with our national side, has just scored against celtic to knock us out of the champions league... thats 4 campaigns in a row now we have failed to qualify through the champions league qualification... In the process we lost to.. Midtjylland Ferencvaros Cfr cluj Aek These are not big clubs! I repeat.. long gone are the days of celtic /rangers buying upper quality serie a or prem players like hartson, sutton, berkovic, gascoigne, laudrup, and regularly playing Champs league football. Celtic currently are an upper championship side! Matty Ryan turned Celtic down! Our best defender and best prospect is moving to Brentford a promotion team! Think about that. So back to my original point.. I think there is as many as 15 socceroos who'd be good enough for minutes at celtic which is the question I was originally responding to... this Inc's imo... Ryan Grant (maybe not starter but would get minutes) Atkinson Karacic Sains Souttar Behich Smith Luongo Irvine Mooy Hrustic (step down for him) Mooy Boyle Leckie All of these guys are good enough to get at least squad rotation minutes at celtic... Atkinson/Karacic, leckie, Boyle, hrustic, mooy, Ryan and sains would be regular starters in this current angeball celtic and would improve the team. That point about none of our players being 'celtic quality' really fucking pissed me off tbh! (And im a celtic supporter)! We need to stop apologizing for our Australian players and thinking we are inferior - its like when mooy was moving to England and so many morons on her were like "oh but he's 25 already and if was good enough he'd have made it already blah blah, he's best to start in championship first blah blah blah"... basic eye test and half a brain could see he was prem quality and when he went to huddersfield the fans were already calling him their greatest ever player within 10 weeks! Our national side currently is probably upper championship standard which is about where celtic is, and I've just named our better players so logical that they'd make the side. Rant over You keep repeating that long gone are the days where Celtic can no longer sign a Hartson or Sutton etc. I have not come across a single post where anyone disagrees with that statement. As stated numerous times the crazy money that the big 5 league generate pretty much makes us as developing selling club, which we will never reach our true potential (unless something changes). You say we can no long atract top players of yesteryear, yet over the past several seasons we have been able to sign Dembele, Edouard, Ajer, Van Dyke, Ledley, Wanyama, Ki Sung Yueng, Sinclair, Simunovic, Jullien, Frimpong etc. That's not even including the players we have been able to bring in on loan, nor the players that have come through the Celtic youth set-up. So are you suggesting that those players are not as good as the Australain players you mentioned?? Because in my opinion those are types of players we should be chasing. Those are Celtic calibre players (IMO). You say you are a Celtic supporter, which I'm sure is true, but you come across as someone who is an Australian player fan first and foremost, then a Celtic supporter, hence why you would rather sign any Australian player who may get some minutes in a rotation, than sign a player(s) who (1) can make a real difference on the field, and (2) would has a potential for a future profit for the club via a transfer fee and sell on clauses. Also where are all the scouts and technical directors hyping up these players and trying to sign them?? I can see us not agreeing what/who is the the best choice/path for Celtic so I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree. The initial question posited to which i responded was ... " are there any Australian players who could technically good enough to play for celtic"? Then after I replied with certain players your comment was "no Australian player is celtic quality" which is quite simply wrong and got me annoyed AF. The anti Australian bias in this group pisses me off... our players already face uphill perceptual battle in Europe. As a couple of ppl have said on here our players almost need to be twice as good as their direct competition before they'll get played and recognized. Why this makes a difference i don't know but in answer to ur question Im socceroos first, celtic 2nd, middlesbrough 3rd. I always liked celtic they were my scottish team given my Irish catholic background, but when rogic moved there I've followed them ever since and now I'm part of the Abu dhabi celtic supporters club. One of my best mates here is hardcore celtic, ira supporting, scottish nationalist etc etc. IRA ???
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+x+x+x" oh but none of our players are 'Celtic quality' " (Whatever the fuck that is) Awer mabil, who isn't even a starter with our national side, has just scored against celtic to knock us out of the champions league... thats 4 campaigns in a row now we have failed to qualify through the champions league qualification... In the process we lost to.. Midtjylland Ferencvaros Cfr cluj Aek These are not big clubs! I repeat.. long gone are the days of celtic /rangers buying upper quality serie a or prem players like hartson, sutton, berkovic, gascoigne, laudrup, and regularly playing Champs league football. Celtic currently are an upper championship side! Matty Ryan turned Celtic down! Our best defender and best prospect is moving to Brentford a promotion team! Think about that. So back to my original point.. I think there is as many as 15 socceroos who'd be good enough for minutes at celtic which is the question I was originally responding to... this Inc's imo... Ryan Grant (maybe not starter but would get minutes) Atkinson Karacic Sains Souttar Behich Smith Luongo Irvine Mooy Hrustic (step down for him) Mooy Boyle Leckie All of these guys are good enough to get at least squad rotation minutes at celtic... Atkinson/Karacic, leckie, Boyle, hrustic, mooy, Ryan and sains would be regular starters in this current angeball celtic and would improve the team. That point about none of our players being 'celtic quality' really fucking pissed me off tbh! (And im a celtic supporter)! We need to stop apologizing for our Australian players and thinking we are inferior - its like when mooy was moving to England and so many morons on her were like "oh but he's 25 already and if was good enough he'd have made it already blah blah, he's best to start in championship first blah blah blah"... basic eye test and half a brain could see he was prem quality and when he went to huddersfield the fans were already calling him their greatest ever player within 10 weeks! Our national side currently is probably upper championship standard which is about where celtic is, and I've just named our better players so logical that they'd make the side. Rant over You keep repeating that long gone are the days where Celtic can no longer sign a Hartson or Sutton etc. I have not come across a single post where anyone disagrees with that statement. As stated numerous times the crazy money that the big 5 league generate pretty much makes us as developing selling club, which we will never reach our true potential (unless something changes). You say we can no long atract top players of yesteryear, yet over the past several seasons we have been able to sign Dembele, Edouard, Ajer, Van Dyke, Ledley, Wanyama, Ki Sung Yueng, Sinclair, Simunovic, Jullien, Frimpong etc. That's not even including the players we have been able to bring in on loan, nor the players that have come through the Celtic youth set-up. So are you suggesting that those players are not as good as the Australain players you mentioned?? Because in my opinion those are types of players we should be chasing. Those are Celtic calibre players (IMO). You say you are a Celtic supporter, which I'm sure is true, but you come across as someone who is an Australian player fan first and foremost, then a Celtic supporter, hence why you would rather sign any Australian player who may get some minutes in a rotation, than sign a player(s) who (1) can make a real difference on the field, and (2) would has a potential for a future profit for the club via a transfer fee and sell on clauses. Also where are all the scouts and technical directors hyping up these players and trying to sign them?? I can see us not agreeing what/who is the the best choice/path for Celtic so I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree. The initial question posited to which i responded was ... " are there any Australian players who could technically good enough to play for celtic"? [1] Then after I replied with certain players your comment was "no Australian player is celtic quality" which is quite simply wrong and got me annoyed AF. _____ [2] The anti Australian bias in this group pisses me off... our players already face uphill perceptual battle in Europe. As a couple of ppl have said on here our players almost need to be twice as good as their direct competition before they'll get played and recognized. _____ [3] Why this makes a difference i don't know but in answer to ur question Im socceroos first, celtic 2nd, middlesbrough 3rd. I always liked celtic they were my scottish team given my Irish catholic background, but when rogic moved there I've followed them ever since and now I'm part of the Abu dhabi celtic supporters club. One of my best mates here is hardcore celtic, ira supporting, scottish nationalist etc etc. [RE: 1] Please show me where I have I have EVER said that "no Australian players is Celtic quality", as I have NEVER said that. Re-read all my previous post and you won't find that comment anywhere. There are quite a few Australian players that I would have no issue if they signed/played for Celtic. So get your [FACTS] straight before making false statements. _____ [RE:2] You won't find any bias towards Australian players (or any nation for that matter) from me. I don't care what passport a player holds, if he is good enough to play and star for the team, than he is good enough to play and star for the team. _____ [RE:3] It doesn't make a difference, I was just curious that's all. I like to know the story of my fellow Celtic family members. That's it. There is no malice or judgement as to what brought someone to support Celtic. It's just a curiosity thing. Though the Socceroos first comment does explain a few of your comments/point of views. Which you are entitled too.
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+x+x+x+x" oh but none of our players are 'Celtic quality' " (Whatever the fuck that is) Awer mabil, who isn't even a starter with our national side, has just scored against celtic to knock us out of the champions league... thats 4 campaigns in a row now we have failed to qualify through the champions league qualification... In the process we lost to.. Midtjylland Ferencvaros Cfr cluj Aek These are not big clubs! I repeat.. long gone are the days of celtic /rangers buying upper quality serie a or prem players like hartson, sutton, berkovic, gascoigne, laudrup, and regularly playing Champs league football. Celtic currently are an upper championship side! Matty Ryan turned Celtic down! Our best defender and best prospect is moving to Brentford a promotion team! Think about that. So back to my original point.. I think there is as many as 15 socceroos who'd be good enough for minutes at celtic which is the question I was originally responding to... this Inc's imo... Ryan Grant (maybe not starter but would get minutes) Atkinson Karacic Sains Souttar Behich Smith Luongo Irvine Mooy Hrustic (step down for him) Mooy Boyle Leckie All of these guys are good enough to get at least squad rotation minutes at celtic... Atkinson/Karacic, leckie, Boyle, hrustic, mooy, Ryan and sains would be regular starters in this current angeball celtic and would improve the team. That point about none of our players being 'celtic quality' really fucking pissed me off tbh! (And im a celtic supporter)! We need to stop apologizing for our Australian players and thinking we are inferior - its like when mooy was moving to England and so many morons on her were like "oh but he's 25 already and if was good enough he'd have made it already blah blah, he's best to start in championship first blah blah blah"... basic eye test and half a brain could see he was prem quality and when he went to huddersfield the fans were already calling him their greatest ever player within 10 weeks! Our national side currently is probably upper championship standard which is about where celtic is, and I've just named our better players so logical that they'd make the side. Rant over You keep repeating that long gone are the days where Celtic can no longer sign a Hartson or Sutton etc. I have not come across a single post where anyone disagrees with that statement. As stated numerous times the crazy money that the big 5 league generate pretty much makes us as developing selling club, which we will never reach our true potential (unless something changes). You say we can no long atract top players of yesteryear, yet over the past several seasons we have been able to sign Dembele, Edouard, Ajer, Van Dyke, Ledley, Wanyama, Ki Sung Yueng, Sinclair, Simunovic, Jullien, Frimpong etc. That's not even including the players we have been able to bring in on loan, nor the players that have come through the Celtic youth set-up. So are you suggesting that those players are not as good as the Australain players you mentioned?? Because in my opinion those are types of players we should be chasing. Those are Celtic calibre players (IMO). You say you are a Celtic supporter, which I'm sure is true, but you come across as someone who is an Australian player fan first and foremost, then a Celtic supporter, hence why you would rather sign any Australian player who may get some minutes in a rotation, than sign a player(s) who (1) can make a real difference on the field, and (2) would has a potential for a future profit for the club via a transfer fee and sell on clauses. Also where are all the scouts and technical directors hyping up these players and trying to sign them?? I can see us not agreeing what/who is the the best choice/path for Celtic so I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree. The initial question posited to which i responded was ... " are there any Australian players who could technically good enough to play for celtic"? Then after I replied with certain players your comment was "no Australian player is celtic quality" which is quite simply wrong and got me annoyed AF. The anti Australian bias in this group pisses me off... our players already face uphill perceptual battle in Europe. As a couple of ppl have said on here our players almost need to be twice as good as their direct competition before they'll get played and recognized. Why this makes a difference i don't know but in answer to ur question Im socceroos first, celtic 2nd, middlesbrough 3rd. I always liked celtic they were my scottish team given my Irish catholic background, but when rogic moved there I've followed them ever since and now I'm part of the Abu dhabi celtic supporters club. One of my best mates here is hardcore celtic, ira supporting, scottish nationalist etc etc. IRA ??? Probably lol. Goes on and on about all the atrocities committed by the english. Im a financial adviser here so he and i work with lots of english here... for every match he rocked up at the pub with the colours of englands opposition on his face and a flag. Was quite funny particularly when they lost the shootout
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+x+x+x+x+x" oh but none of our players are 'Celtic quality' " (Whatever the fuck that is) Awer mabil, who isn't even a starter with our national side, has just scored against celtic to knock us out of the champions league... thats 4 campaigns in a row now we have failed to qualify through the champions league qualification... In the process we lost to.. Midtjylland Ferencvaros Cfr cluj Aek These are not big clubs! I repeat.. long gone are the days of celtic /rangers buying upper quality serie a or prem players like hartson, sutton, berkovic, gascoigne, laudrup, and regularly playing Champs league football. Celtic currently are an upper championship side! Matty Ryan turned Celtic down! Our best defender and best prospect is moving to Brentford a promotion team! Think about that. So back to my original point.. I think there is as many as 15 socceroos who'd be good enough for minutes at celtic which is the question I was originally responding to... this Inc's imo... Ryan Grant (maybe not starter but would get minutes) Atkinson Karacic Sains Souttar Behich Smith Luongo Irvine Mooy Hrustic (step down for him) Mooy Boyle Leckie All of these guys are good enough to get at least squad rotation minutes at celtic... Atkinson/Karacic, leckie, Boyle, hrustic, mooy, Ryan and sains would be regular starters in this current angeball celtic and would improve the team. That point about none of our players being 'celtic quality' really fucking pissed me off tbh! (And im a celtic supporter)! We need to stop apologizing for our Australian players and thinking we are inferior - its like when mooy was moving to England and so many morons on her were like "oh but he's 25 already and if was good enough he'd have made it already blah blah, he's best to start in championship first blah blah blah"... basic eye test and half a brain could see he was prem quality and when he went to huddersfield the fans were already calling him their greatest ever player within 10 weeks! Our national side currently is probably upper championship standard which is about where celtic is, and I've just named our better players so logical that they'd make the side. Rant over You keep repeating that long gone are the days where Celtic can no longer sign a Hartson or Sutton etc. I have not come across a single post where anyone disagrees with that statement. As stated numerous times the crazy money that the big 5 league generate pretty much makes us as developing selling club, which we will never reach our true potential (unless something changes). You say we can no long atract top players of yesteryear, yet over the past several seasons we have been able to sign Dembele, Edouard, Ajer, Van Dyke, Ledley, Wanyama, Ki Sung Yueng, Sinclair, Simunovic, Jullien, Frimpong etc. That's not even including the players we have been able to bring in on loan, nor the players that have come through the Celtic youth set-up. So are you suggesting that those players are not as good as the Australain players you mentioned?? Because in my opinion those are types of players we should be chasing. Those are Celtic calibre players (IMO). You say you are a Celtic supporter, which I'm sure is true, but you come across as someone who is an Australian player fan first and foremost, then a Celtic supporter, hence why you would rather sign any Australian player who may get some minutes in a rotation, than sign a player(s) who (1) can make a real difference on the field, and (2) would has a potential for a future profit for the club via a transfer fee and sell on clauses. Also where are all the scouts and technical directors hyping up these players and trying to sign them?? I can see us not agreeing what/who is the the best choice/path for Celtic so I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree. The initial question posited to which i responded was ... " are there any Australian players who could technically good enough to play for celtic"? Then after I replied with certain players your comment was "no Australian player is celtic quality" which is quite simply wrong and got me annoyed AF. The anti Australian bias in this group pisses me off... our players already face uphill perceptual battle in Europe. As a couple of ppl have said on here our players almost need to be twice as good as their direct competition before they'll get played and recognized. Why this makes a difference i don't know but in answer to ur question Im socceroos first, celtic 2nd, middlesbrough 3rd. I always liked celtic they were my scottish team given my Irish catholic background, but when rogic moved there I've followed them ever since and now I'm part of the Abu dhabi celtic supporters club. One of my best mates here is hardcore celtic, ira supporting, scottish nationalist etc etc. IRA ??? Probably lol. Goes on and on about all the atrocities committed by the english. Im a financial adviser here so he and i work with lots of english here... for every match he rocked up at the pub with the colours of englands opposition on his face and a flag. Was quite funny particularly when they lost the shootout He sounds like an absolute twat. Supporting outlawed terrorist organisations.
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+x+x+x+x+xthere's no rumours about any more australian's headed to celtic. but he is still to secure a CB and a RB. He was said in an interview their transfer priorities were a CB, RB, and L/RW. Seems like Brighton will take Edouard once the ben white money is through so Im guessing they will probably look at a striker. On the wings they've picked up Abada - and Furuhashi has landed in london for quarantine but still needs to do a medical In CB and Starfelt has or is coming soon. Also the 2 young guys Shaw(?) as a fullback and Urhoghide in CB. My question - what Australian's do you think they are likely to pick up if any?? I honestly dont think Ange will even be looking our way for the moment. But I can think of a few who who would be decent pick ups. Limitations - they need to be young prospects with onsell worth with NT caps for UK visa rules. Or they need to be well established snr players that can walk into the first 11 - which would be mooy or ryan and so there is no one else really that fits this. 3 signings for celtic that I can see being decent and fitting Ange's style of play. -Atkinson in RB but he will need to get capped for the NT first which is pretty likely. He has decent onsell value. -Sainsbury in CB - I would say Degenek, but his passing is a bit suspect at times and might not fit Ange's style. Also he was dropped from Ange's yokohama. Maybe Curtis Good now he is getting games under his belt without the injuries. -Rukavytsya up front - but in writing this I've just seen he has signed for Perth. Doesn't really fit the limitations, but he would be a decent cheap signing that could have been a solid goal scoring backup striker. Celtic would be well aware of him having shown they scout the Israeli league. There's still talk of mooy going to us. Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle. On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again. Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.
If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs ( both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return). ______ I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer ( depends on who you ask 😉 ).... What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players?? The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players. There it is - Bolded and underlined above. Guilty of first degree Euro Snobbery! PIFA also said the same thing earlier. Thou shalt be punished by watching Central coast mariners only for 2 years :) Starting team for Celtic last night... Bain Ralston Welsh Murray Taylor Soro Turnbull McGregor Abada Edouard Christie Had they been available to ange last night, the socceroos entire back 5 would have started over those above - maybe taylor over behich but its tight. Mooy would start over Soro, Hrustic would get in over Turnbull or Abada, Leckie or Boyle maybe in there too.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xthere's no rumours about any more australian's headed to celtic. but he is still to secure a CB and a RB. He was said in an interview their transfer priorities were a CB, RB, and L/RW. Seems like Brighton will take Edouard once the ben white money is through so Im guessing they will probably look at a striker. On the wings they've picked up Abada - and Furuhashi has landed in london for quarantine but still needs to do a medical In CB and Starfelt has or is coming soon. Also the 2 young guys Shaw(?) as a fullback and Urhoghide in CB. My question - what Australian's do you think they are likely to pick up if any?? I honestly dont think Ange will even be looking our way for the moment. But I can think of a few who who would be decent pick ups. Limitations - they need to be young prospects with onsell worth with NT caps for UK visa rules. Or they need to be well established snr players that can walk into the first 11 - which would be mooy or ryan and so there is no one else really that fits this. 3 signings for celtic that I can see being decent and fitting Ange's style of play. -Atkinson in RB but he will need to get capped for the NT first which is pretty likely. He has decent onsell value. -Sainsbury in CB - I would say Degenek, but his passing is a bit suspect at times and might not fit Ange's style. Also he was dropped from Ange's yokohama. Maybe Curtis Good now he is getting games under his belt without the injuries. -Rukavytsya up front - but in writing this I've just seen he has signed for Perth. Doesn't really fit the limitations, but he would be a decent cheap signing that could have been a solid goal scoring backup striker. Celtic would be well aware of him having shown they scout the Israeli league. There's still talk of mooy going to us. Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle. On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again. Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.
If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs ( both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return). ______ I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer ( depends on who you ask 😉 ).... What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players?? The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players. There it is - Bolded and underlined above. Guilty of first degree Euro Snobbery! PIFA also said the same thing earlier. Thou shalt be punished by watching Central coast mariners only for 2 years :) Starting team for Celtic last night... Bain Ralston Welsh Murray Taylor Soro Turnbull McGregor Abada Edouard Christie Had they been available to ange last night, the socceroos entire back 5 would have started over those above - maybe taylor over behich but its tight. Mooy would start over Soro, Hrustic would get in over Turnbull or Abada, Leckie or Boyle maybe in there too. So the three players you mentioned that I disagreed with you stating that I think we should be going be going for higher class players means that I said "no Australian players is Celtic quality"?? Again, please show me where Ibhave ever said such a thing??
Also that I said I rate Mooy and think he would do fine at Celtic, although he will need to a HUGE pay cut to be able to sign for Celtic somehow means that I believe "no Australian player is Celtic quality", and that I am a "Euro Snob"?? Not once have I said anything of the sort that you are accusing me of. I guess making shit up is better than dealing in truths.
Finally, the squad that played last night will not be the final squad come the closing of the transfer window. Yet again it is the board wasting time trying to do things on the cheap that hurts us.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xthere's no rumours about any more australian's headed to celtic. but he is still to secure a CB and a RB. He was said in an interview their transfer priorities were a CB, RB, and L/RW. Seems like Brighton will take Edouard once the ben white money is through so Im guessing they will probably look at a striker. On the wings they've picked up Abada - and Furuhashi has landed in london for quarantine but still needs to do a medical In CB and Starfelt has or is coming soon. Also the 2 young guys Shaw(?) as a fullback and Urhoghide in CB. My question - what Australian's do you think they are likely to pick up if any?? I honestly dont think Ange will even be looking our way for the moment. But I can think of a few who who would be decent pick ups. Limitations - they need to be young prospects with onsell worth with NT caps for UK visa rules. Or they need to be well established snr players that can walk into the first 11 - which would be mooy or ryan and so there is no one else really that fits this. 3 signings for celtic that I can see being decent and fitting Ange's style of play. -Atkinson in RB but he will need to get capped for the NT first which is pretty likely. He has decent onsell value. -Sainsbury in CB - I would say Degenek, but his passing is a bit suspect at times and might not fit Ange's style. Also he was dropped from Ange's yokohama. Maybe Curtis Good now he is getting games under his belt without the injuries. -Rukavytsya up front - but in writing this I've just seen he has signed for Perth. Doesn't really fit the limitations, but he would be a decent cheap signing that could have been a solid goal scoring backup striker. Celtic would be well aware of him having shown they scout the Israeli league. There's still talk of mooy going to us. Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle. On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again. Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.
If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs ( both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return). ______ I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer ( depends on who you ask 😉 ).... What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players?? The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players. There it is - Bolded and underlined above. Guilty of first degree Euro Snobbery! PIFA also said the same thing earlier. Thou shalt be punished by watching Central coast mariners only for 2 years :) Starting team for Celtic last night... Bain Ralston Welsh Murray Taylor Soro Turnbull McGregor Abada Edouard Christie Had they been available to ange last night, the socceroos entire back 5 would have started over those above - maybe taylor over behich but its tight. Mooy would start over Soro, Hrustic would get in over Turnbull or Abada, Leckie or Boyle maybe in there too. So the three players you mentioned that I disagreed with you stating that I think we should be going be going for higher class players means that I said "no Australian players is Celtic quality"?? Again, please show me where Ibhave ever said such a thing??
Also that I said I rate Mooy and think he would do fine at Celtic, although he will need to a HUGE pay cut to be able to sign for Celtic somehow means that I believe "no Australian player is Celtic quality", and that I am a "Euro Snob"?? Not once have I said anything of the sort that you are accusing me of. I guess making shit up is better than dealing in truths.
Finally, the squad that played last night will not be the final squad come the closing of the transfer window. Yet again it is the board wasting time trying to do things on the cheap that hurts us.
The specific players I mentioned were in my post were.. Mooy Ryan Atkinson Grant Sainsbury Good Smith Behich Nearly all of them would have started for celtic last night. I'll concede possibly Taylor over smith/behich but its tight. And maybe not Good over Welsh but certainly over Murray. In regards to your comment about it 'not bring being the final squad' ... you are now shifting your argument - if you read what you originally said, you stated the players i mentioned would 'have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. ' Just admit it was a shortsighted comment and you had a momentary lapse of eurosnobbery and i'll stop with this :p
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xthere's no rumours about any more australian's headed to celtic. but he is still to secure a CB and a RB. He was said in an interview their transfer priorities were a CB, RB, and L/RW. Seems like Brighton will take Edouard once the ben white money is through so Im guessing they will probably look at a striker. On the wings they've picked up Abada - and Furuhashi has landed in london for quarantine but still needs to do a medical In CB and Starfelt has or is coming soon. Also the 2 young guys Shaw(?) as a fullback and Urhoghide in CB. My question - what Australian's do you think they are likely to pick up if any?? I honestly dont think Ange will even be looking our way for the moment. But I can think of a few who who would be decent pick ups. Limitations - they need to be young prospects with onsell worth with NT caps for UK visa rules. Or they need to be well established snr players that can walk into the first 11 - which would be mooy or ryan and so there is no one else really that fits this. 3 signings for celtic that I can see being decent and fitting Ange's style of play. -Atkinson in RB but he will need to get capped for the NT first which is pretty likely. He has decent onsell value. -Sainsbury in CB - I would say Degenek, but his passing is a bit suspect at times and might not fit Ange's style. Also he was dropped from Ange's yokohama. Maybe Curtis Good now he is getting games under his belt without the injuries. -Rukavytsya up front - but in writing this I've just seen he has signed for Perth. Doesn't really fit the limitations, but he would be a decent cheap signing that could have been a solid goal scoring backup striker. Celtic would be well aware of him having shown they scout the Israeli league. There's still talk of mooy going to us. Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle. On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again. Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.
If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs ( both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return). ______ I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer ( depends on who you ask 😉 ).... What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players?? The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players. There it is - Bolded and underlined above. Guilty of first degree Euro Snobbery! PIFA also said the same thing earlier. Thou shalt be punished by watching Central coast mariners only for 2 years :) Starting team for Celtic last night... Bain Ralston Welsh Murray Taylor Soro Turnbull McGregor Abada Edouard Christie Had they been available to ange last night, the socceroos entire back 5 would have started over those above - maybe taylor over behich but its tight. Mooy would start over Soro, Hrustic would get in over Turnbull or Abada, Leckie or Boyle maybe in there too. So the three players you mentioned that I disagreed with you stating that I think we should be going be going for higher class players means that I said "no Australian players is Celtic quality"?? Again, please show me where Ibhave ever said such a thing??
Also that I said I rate Mooy and think he would do fine at Celtic, although he will need to a HUGE pay cut to be able to sign for Celtic somehow means that I believe "no Australian player is Celtic quality", and that I am a "Euro Snob"?? Not once have I said anything of the sort that you are accusing me of. I guess making shit up is better than dealing in truths.
Finally, the squad that played last night will not be the final squad come the closing of the transfer window. Yet again it is the board wasting time trying to do things on the cheap that hurts us.
The specific players I mentioned were in my post were..
Mooy
Ryan
Atkinson
Grant
Sainsbury
Good
Smith
Behich
Nearly all of them would have started for celtic last night. I'll concede possibly Taylor over smith/behich but its tight. And maybe not Good over Welsh but certainly over Murray.
In regards to your comment about it 'not bring being the final squad' ... you are now shifting your argument - if you read what you originally said, you stated the players i mentioned would 'have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. '
Just admit it was a shortsighted comment and you had a momentary lapse of eurosnobbery and i'll stop with this :p
Ryan is a non starter as he signed elsewhere. Mooy needs to take a huge cut which there has been no signal that he will. As for the squad lastnight not being the final squad - Did Jullien play?? Furuhashi?? Starfelt?? All I'm doing is stating [FACTS].
As I have said before, we are just going to have to agree to disagree 🙂
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xthere's no rumours about any more australian's headed to celtic. but he is still to secure a CB and a RB. He was said in an interview their transfer priorities were a CB, RB, and L/RW. Seems like Brighton will take Edouard once the ben white money is through so Im guessing they will probably look at a striker. On the wings they've picked up Abada - and Furuhashi has landed in london for quarantine but still needs to do a medical In CB and Starfelt has or is coming soon. Also the 2 young guys Shaw(?) as a fullback and Urhoghide in CB. My question - what Australian's do you think they are likely to pick up if any?? I honestly dont think Ange will even be looking our way for the moment. But I can think of a few who who would be decent pick ups. Limitations - they need to be young prospects with onsell worth with NT caps for UK visa rules. Or they need to be well established snr players that can walk into the first 11 - which would be mooy or ryan and so there is no one else really that fits this. 3 signings for celtic that I can see being decent and fitting Ange's style of play. -Atkinson in RB but he will need to get capped for the NT first which is pretty likely. He has decent onsell value. -Sainsbury in CB - I would say Degenek, but his passing is a bit suspect at times and might not fit Ange's style. Also he was dropped from Ange's yokohama. Maybe Curtis Good now he is getting games under his belt without the injuries. -Rukavytsya up front - but in writing this I've just seen he has signed for Perth. Doesn't really fit the limitations, but he would be a decent cheap signing that could have been a solid goal scoring backup striker. Celtic would be well aware of him having shown they scout the Israeli league. There's still talk of mooy going to us. Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle. On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again. Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.
If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs ( both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return). ______ I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer ( depends on who you ask 😉 ).... What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players?? The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players. There it is - Bolded and underlined above. Guilty of first degree Euro Snobbery! PIFA also said the same thing earlier. Thou shalt be punished by watching Central coast mariners only for 2 years :) Starting team for Celtic last night... Bain Ralston Welsh Murray Taylor Soro Turnbull McGregor Abada Edouard Christie Had they been available to ange last night, the socceroos entire back 5 would have started over those above - maybe taylor over behich but its tight. Mooy would start over Soro, Hrustic would get in over Turnbull or Abada, Leckie or Boyle maybe in there too. So the three players you mentioned that I disagreed with you stating that I think we should be going be going for higher class players means that I said "no Australian players is Celtic quality"?? Again, please show me where Ibhave ever said such a thing??
Also that I said I rate Mooy and think he would do fine at Celtic, although he will need to a HUGE pay cut to be able to sign for Celtic somehow means that I believe "no Australian player is Celtic quality", and that I am a "Euro Snob"?? Not once have I said anything of the sort that you are accusing me of. I guess making shit up is better than dealing in truths.
Finally, the squad that played last night will not be the final squad come the closing of the transfer window. Yet again it is the board wasting time trying to do things on the cheap that hurts us.
The specific players I mentioned were in my post were..
Mooy
Ryan
Atkinson
Grant
Sainsbury
Good
Smith
Behich
Nearly all of them would have started for celtic last night. I'll concede possibly Taylor over smith/behich but its tight. And maybe not Good over Welsh but certainly over Murray.
In regards to your comment about it 'not bring being the final squad' ... you are now shifting your argument - if you read what you originally said, you stated the players i mentioned would 'have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. '
Just admit it was a shortsighted comment and you had a momentary lapse of eurosnobbery and i'll stop with this :p
Don’t talk fuckin shite man. Apart from Mooy the rest are either rubbish or unproven. Argument done, back tae yer camels.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xthere's no rumours about any more australian's headed to celtic. but he is still to secure a CB and a RB. He was said in an interview their transfer priorities were a CB, RB, and L/RW. Seems like Brighton will take Edouard once the ben white money is through so Im guessing they will probably look at a striker. On the wings they've picked up Abada - and Furuhashi has landed in london for quarantine but still needs to do a medical In CB and Starfelt has or is coming soon. Also the 2 young guys Shaw(?) as a fullback and Urhoghide in CB. My question - what Australian's do you think they are likely to pick up if any?? I honestly dont think Ange will even be looking our way for the moment. But I can think of a few who who would be decent pick ups. Limitations - they need to be young prospects with onsell worth with NT caps for UK visa rules. Or they need to be well established snr players that can walk into the first 11 - which would be mooy or ryan and so there is no one else really that fits this. 3 signings for celtic that I can see being decent and fitting Ange's style of play. -Atkinson in RB but he will need to get capped for the NT first which is pretty likely. He has decent onsell value. -Sainsbury in CB - I would say Degenek, but his passing is a bit suspect at times and might not fit Ange's style. Also he was dropped from Ange's yokohama. Maybe Curtis Good now he is getting games under his belt without the injuries. -Rukavytsya up front - but in writing this I've just seen he has signed for Perth. Doesn't really fit the limitations, but he would be a decent cheap signing that could have been a solid goal scoring backup striker. Celtic would be well aware of him having shown they scout the Israeli league. There's still talk of mooy going to us. Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle. On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again. Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.
If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs ( both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return). ______ I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer ( depends on who you ask 😉 ).... What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players?? The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players. There it is - Bolded and underlined above. Guilty of first degree Euro Snobbery! PIFA also said the same thing earlier. Thou shalt be punished by watching Central coast mariners only for 2 years :) Starting team for Celtic last night... Bain Ralston Welsh Murray Taylor Soro Turnbull McGregor Abada Edouard Christie Had they been available to ange last night, the socceroos entire back 5 would have started over those above - maybe taylor over behich but its tight. Mooy would start over Soro, Hrustic would get in over Turnbull or Abada, Leckie or Boyle maybe in there too. So the three players you mentioned that I disagreed with you stating that I think we should be going be going for higher class players means that I said "no Australian players is Celtic quality"?? Again, please show me where Ibhave ever said such a thing??
Also that I said I rate Mooy and think he would do fine at Celtic, although he will need to a HUGE pay cut to be able to sign for Celtic somehow means that I believe "no Australian player is Celtic quality", and that I am a "Euro Snob"?? Not once have I said anything of the sort that you are accusing me of. I guess making shit up is better than dealing in truths.
Finally, the squad that played last night will not be the final squad come the closing of the transfer window. Yet again it is the board wasting time trying to do things on the cheap that hurts us.
The specific players I mentioned were in my post were..
Mooy
Ryan
Atkinson
Grant
Sainsbury
Good
Smith
Behich
Nearly all of them would have started for celtic last night. I'll concede possibly Taylor over smith/behich but its tight. And maybe not Good over Welsh but certainly over Murray.
In regards to your comment about it 'not bring being the final squad' ... you are now shifting your argument - if you read what you originally said, you stated the players i mentioned would 'have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. '
Just admit it was a shortsighted comment and you had a momentary lapse of eurosnobbery and i'll stop with this :p
Ryan is a non starter as he signed elsewhere. Mooy needs to take a huge cut which there has been no signal that he will. As for the squad lastnight not being the final squad - Did Jullien play?? Furuhashi?? Starfelt?? All I'm doing is stating [FACTS].
As I have said before, we are just going to have to agree to disagree 🙂
At the time you said " have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. ' .... Starfelt and furuhashi weren't even there. FACTS
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xthere's no rumours about any more australian's headed to celtic. but he is still to secure a CB and a RB. He was said in an interview their transfer priorities were a CB, RB, and L/RW. Seems like Brighton will take Edouard once the ben white money is through so Im guessing they will probably look at a striker. On the wings they've picked up Abada - and Furuhashi has landed in london for quarantine but still needs to do a medical In CB and Starfelt has or is coming soon. Also the 2 young guys Shaw(?) as a fullback and Urhoghide in CB. My question - what Australian's do you think they are likely to pick up if any?? I honestly dont think Ange will even be looking our way for the moment. But I can think of a few who who would be decent pick ups. Limitations - they need to be young prospects with onsell worth with NT caps for UK visa rules. Or they need to be well established snr players that can walk into the first 11 - which would be mooy or ryan and so there is no one else really that fits this. 3 signings for celtic that I can see being decent and fitting Ange's style of play. -Atkinson in RB but he will need to get capped for the NT first which is pretty likely. He has decent onsell value. -Sainsbury in CB - I would say Degenek, but his passing is a bit suspect at times and might not fit Ange's style. Also he was dropped from Ange's yokohama. Maybe Curtis Good now he is getting games under his belt without the injuries. -Rukavytsya up front - but in writing this I've just seen he has signed for Perth. Doesn't really fit the limitations, but he would be a decent cheap signing that could have been a solid goal scoring backup striker. Celtic would be well aware of him having shown they scout the Israeli league. There's still talk of mooy going to us. Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle. On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again. Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.
If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs ( both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return). ______ I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer ( depends on who you ask 😉 ).... What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players?? The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players. There it is - Bolded and underlined above. Guilty of first degree Euro Snobbery! PIFA also said the same thing earlier. Thou shalt be punished by watching Central coast mariners only for 2 years :) Starting team for Celtic last night... Bain Ralston Welsh Murray Taylor Soro Turnbull McGregor Abada Edouard Christie Had they been available to ange last night, the socceroos entire back 5 would have started over those above - maybe taylor over behich but its tight. Mooy would start over Soro, Hrustic would get in over Turnbull or Abada, Leckie or Boyle maybe in there too. So the three players you mentioned that I disagreed with you stating that I think we should be going be going for higher class players means that I said "no Australian players is Celtic quality"?? Again, please show me where Ibhave ever said such a thing??
Also that I said I rate Mooy and think he would do fine at Celtic, although he will need to a HUGE pay cut to be able to sign for Celtic somehow means that I believe "no Australian player is Celtic quality", and that I am a "Euro Snob"?? Not once have I said anything of the sort that you are accusing me of. I guess making shit up is better than dealing in truths.
Finally, the squad that played last night will not be the final squad come the closing of the transfer window. Yet again it is the board wasting time trying to do things on the cheap that hurts us.
The specific players I mentioned were in my post were..
Mooy
Ryan
Atkinson
Grant
Sainsbury
Good
Smith
Behich
Nearly all of them would have started for celtic last night. I'll concede possibly Taylor over smith/behich but its tight. And maybe not Good over Welsh but certainly over Murray.
In regards to your comment about it 'not bring being the final squad' ... you are now shifting your argument - if you read what you originally said, you stated the players i mentioned would 'have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. '
Just admit it was a shortsighted comment and you had a momentary lapse of eurosnobbery and i'll stop with this :p
Don’t talk fuckin shite man. Apart from Mooy the rest are either rubbish or unproven. Argument done, back tae yer camels.
So you honestly think bain and barkas would start over Ryan?!
Or Murray or Welsh would start over Sainsbury?!
Or Ralston would start over Atkinson?!
Or Llada would start over Hrustic?!
Its you whose talking shit mate.. go back to Sutherland braaahhhh
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xthere's no rumours about any more australian's headed to celtic. but he is still to secure a CB and a RB. He was said in an interview their transfer priorities were a CB, RB, and L/RW. Seems like Brighton will take Edouard once the ben white money is through so Im guessing they will probably look at a striker. On the wings they've picked up Abada - and Furuhashi has landed in london for quarantine but still needs to do a medical In CB and Starfelt has or is coming soon. Also the 2 young guys Shaw(?) as a fullback and Urhoghide in CB. My question - what Australian's do you think they are likely to pick up if any?? I honestly dont think Ange will even be looking our way for the moment. But I can think of a few who who would be decent pick ups. Limitations - they need to be young prospects with onsell worth with NT caps for UK visa rules. Or they need to be well established snr players that can walk into the first 11 - which would be mooy or ryan and so there is no one else really that fits this. 3 signings for celtic that I can see being decent and fitting Ange's style of play. -Atkinson in RB but he will need to get capped for the NT first which is pretty likely. He has decent onsell value. -Sainsbury in CB - I would say Degenek, but his passing is a bit suspect at times and might not fit Ange's style. Also he was dropped from Ange's yokohama. Maybe Curtis Good now he is getting games under his belt without the injuries. -Rukavytsya up front - but in writing this I've just seen he has signed for Perth. Doesn't really fit the limitations, but he would be a decent cheap signing that could have been a solid goal scoring backup striker. Celtic would be well aware of him having shown they scout the Israeli league. There's still talk of mooy going to us. Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle. On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again. Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.
If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs ( both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return). ______ I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer ( depends on who you ask 😉 ).... What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players?? The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players. There it is - Bolded and underlined above. Guilty of first degree Euro Snobbery! PIFA also said the same thing earlier. Thou shalt be punished by watching Central coast mariners only for 2 years :) Starting team for Celtic last night... Bain Ralston Welsh Murray Taylor Soro Turnbull McGregor Abada Edouard Christie Had they been available to ange last night, the socceroos entire back 5 would have started over those above - maybe taylor over behich but its tight. Mooy would start over Soro, Hrustic would get in over Turnbull or Abada, Leckie or Boyle maybe in there too. So the three players you mentioned that I disagreed with you stating that I think we should be going be going for higher class players means that I said "no Australian players is Celtic quality"?? Again, please show me where Ibhave ever said such a thing??
Also that I said I rate Mooy and think he would do fine at Celtic, although he will need to a HUGE pay cut to be able to sign for Celtic somehow means that I believe "no Australian player is Celtic quality", and that I am a "Euro Snob"?? Not once have I said anything of the sort that you are accusing me of. I guess making shit up is better than dealing in truths.
Finally, the squad that played last night will not be the final squad come the closing of the transfer window. Yet again it is the board wasting time trying to do things on the cheap that hurts us.
The specific players I mentioned were in my post were..
Mooy
Ryan
Atkinson
Grant
Sainsbury
Good
Smith
Behich
Nearly all of them would have started for celtic last night. I'll concede possibly Taylor over smith/behich but its tight. And maybe not Good over Welsh but certainly over Murray.
In regards to your comment about it 'not bring being the final squad' ... you are now shifting your argument - if you read what you originally said, you stated the players i mentioned would 'have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. '
Just admit it was a shortsighted comment and you had a momentary lapse of eurosnobbery and i'll stop with this :p
Ryan is a non starter as he signed elsewhere. Mooy needs to take a huge cut which there has been no signal that he will. As for the squad lastnight not being the final squad - Did Jullien play?? Furuhashi?? Starfelt?? All I'm doing is stating [FACTS].
As I have said before, we are just going to have to agree to disagree 🙂
At the time you said " have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. ' .... Starfelt and furuhashi weren't even there. FACTS
I was clearly talking about the comment regarding the comment made regarding the line-up against Midtjylland not being the final squad come the close of the transfer window. But if you want to get technical/petty, one could say all the players you mentioned weren't even there (nor more than likely even be there 😉).
Also for the record Furuhashi had be signed by then.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xthere's no rumours about any more australian's headed to celtic. but he is still to secure a CB and a RB. He was said in an interview their transfer priorities were a CB, RB, and L/RW. Seems like Brighton will take Edouard once the ben white money is through so Im guessing they will probably look at a striker. On the wings they've picked up Abada - and Furuhashi has landed in london for quarantine but still needs to do a medical In CB and Starfelt has or is coming soon. Also the 2 young guys Shaw(?) as a fullback and Urhoghide in CB. My question - what Australian's do you think they are likely to pick up if any?? I honestly dont think Ange will even be looking our way for the moment. But I can think of a few who who would be decent pick ups. Limitations - they need to be young prospects with onsell worth with NT caps for UK visa rules. Or they need to be well established snr players that can walk into the first 11 - which would be mooy or ryan and so there is no one else really that fits this. 3 signings for celtic that I can see being decent and fitting Ange's style of play. -Atkinson in RB but he will need to get capped for the NT first which is pretty likely. He has decent onsell value. -Sainsbury in CB - I would say Degenek, but his passing is a bit suspect at times and might not fit Ange's style. Also he was dropped from Ange's yokohama. Maybe Curtis Good now he is getting games under his belt without the injuries. -Rukavytsya up front - but in writing this I've just seen he has signed for Perth. Doesn't really fit the limitations, but he would be a decent cheap signing that could have been a solid goal scoring backup striker. Celtic would be well aware of him having shown they scout the Israeli league. There's still talk of mooy going to us. Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle. On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again. Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.
If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs ( both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return). ______ I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer ( depends on who you ask 😉 ).... What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players?? The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players. There it is - Bolded and underlined above. Guilty of first degree Euro Snobbery! PIFA also said the same thing earlier. Thou shalt be punished by watching Central coast mariners only for 2 years :) Starting team for Celtic last night... Bain Ralston Welsh Murray Taylor Soro Turnbull McGregor Abada Edouard Christie Had they been available to ange last night, the socceroos entire back 5 would have started over those above - maybe taylor over behich but its tight. Mooy would start over Soro, Hrustic would get in over Turnbull or Abada, Leckie or Boyle maybe in there too. So the three players you mentioned that I disagreed with you stating that I think we should be going be going for higher class players means that I said "no Australian players is Celtic quality"?? Again, please show me where Ibhave ever said such a thing??
Also that I said I rate Mooy and think he would do fine at Celtic, although he will need to a HUGE pay cut to be able to sign for Celtic somehow means that I believe "no Australian player is Celtic quality", and that I am a "Euro Snob"?? Not once have I said anything of the sort that you are accusing me of. I guess making shit up is better than dealing in truths.
Finally, the squad that played last night will not be the final squad come the closing of the transfer window. Yet again it is the board wasting time trying to do things on the cheap that hurts us.
The specific players I mentioned were in my post were..
Mooy
Ryan
Atkinson
Grant
Sainsbury
Good
Smith
Behich
Nearly all of them would have started for celtic last night. I'll concede possibly Taylor over smith/behich but its tight. And maybe not Good over Welsh but certainly over Murray.
In regards to your comment about it 'not bring being the final squad' ... you are now shifting your argument - if you read what you originally said, you stated the players i mentioned would 'have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. '
Just admit it was a shortsighted comment and you had a momentary lapse of eurosnobbery and i'll stop with this :p
Ryan is a non starter as he signed elsewhere. Mooy needs to take a huge cut which there has been no signal that he will. As for the squad lastnight not being the final squad - Did Jullien play?? Furuhashi?? Starfelt?? All I'm doing is stating [FACTS].
As I have said before, we are just going to have to agree to disagree 🙂
At the time you said " have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. ' .... Starfelt and furuhashi weren't even there. FACTS
I was clearly talking about the comment regarding the comment made regarding the line-up against Midtjylland not being the final squad come the close of the transfer window. But if you want to get technical/petty, one could say all the players you mentioned weren't even there (nor more than likely even be there 😉).
Also for the record Furuhashi had be signed by then.
No shit its called a hypothetical.
Again, you said that none of the players I mentioned were good enough.. then ended up admitting Ryan and mooy were, without openly conceding you were wrong on that point.
And even with furuhashi and starfelt, Ryan, mooy, hrustic, Atkinson, sains and possibly behich/ Smith would still start over their incumbents... players you stated "would be a challenge to displace".
Just admit it, it was a throwaway negative put down of the socceroos without actually much thought ...
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xthere's no rumours about any more australian's headed to celtic. but he is still to secure a CB and a RB. He was said in an interview their transfer priorities were a CB, RB, and L/RW. Seems like Brighton will take Edouard once the ben white money is through so Im guessing they will probably look at a striker. On the wings they've picked up Abada - and Furuhashi has landed in london for quarantine but still needs to do a medical In CB and Starfelt has or is coming soon. Also the 2 young guys Shaw(?) as a fullback and Urhoghide in CB. My question - what Australian's do you think they are likely to pick up if any?? I honestly dont think Ange will even be looking our way for the moment. But I can think of a few who who would be decent pick ups. Limitations - they need to be young prospects with onsell worth with NT caps for UK visa rules. Or they need to be well established snr players that can walk into the first 11 - which would be mooy or ryan and so there is no one else really that fits this. 3 signings for celtic that I can see being decent and fitting Ange's style of play. -Atkinson in RB but he will need to get capped for the NT first which is pretty likely. He has decent onsell value. -Sainsbury in CB - I would say Degenek, but his passing is a bit suspect at times and might not fit Ange's style. Also he was dropped from Ange's yokohama. Maybe Curtis Good now he is getting games under his belt without the injuries. -Rukavytsya up front - but in writing this I've just seen he has signed for Perth. Doesn't really fit the limitations, but he would be a decent cheap signing that could have been a solid goal scoring backup striker. Celtic would be well aware of him having shown they scout the Israeli league. There's still talk of mooy going to us. Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle. On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again. Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.
If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs ( both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return). ______ I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer ( depends on who you ask 😉 ).... What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players?? The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players. There it is - Bolded and underlined above. Guilty of first degree Euro Snobbery! PIFA also said the same thing earlier. Thou shalt be punished by watching Central coast mariners only for 2 years :) Starting team for Celtic last night... Bain Ralston Welsh Murray Taylor Soro Turnbull McGregor Abada Edouard Christie Had they been available to ange last night, the socceroos entire back 5 would have started over those above - maybe taylor over behich but its tight. Mooy would start over Soro, Hrustic would get in over Turnbull or Abada, Leckie or Boyle maybe in there too. So the three players you mentioned that I disagreed with you stating that I think we should be going be going for higher class players means that I said "no Australian players is Celtic quality"?? Again, please show me where Ibhave ever said such a thing??
Also that I said I rate Mooy and think he would do fine at Celtic, although he will need to a HUGE pay cut to be able to sign for Celtic somehow means that I believe "no Australian player is Celtic quality", and that I am a "Euro Snob"?? Not once have I said anything of the sort that you are accusing me of. I guess making shit up is better than dealing in truths.
Finally, the squad that played last night will not be the final squad come the closing of the transfer window. Yet again it is the board wasting time trying to do things on the cheap that hurts us.
The specific players I mentioned were in my post were..
Mooy
Ryan
Atkinson
Grant
Sainsbury
Good
Smith
Behich
Nearly all of them would have started for celtic last night. I'll concede possibly Taylor over smith/behich but its tight. And maybe not Good over Welsh but certainly over Murray.
In regards to your comment about it 'not bring being the final squad' ... you are now shifting your argument - if you read what you originally said, you stated the players i mentioned would 'have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. '
Just admit it was a shortsighted comment and you had a momentary lapse of eurosnobbery and i'll stop with this :p
Don’t talk fuckin shite man. Apart from Mooy the rest are either rubbish or unproven. Argument done, back tae yer camels.
Also in case you missed it, one of those shite players we have that starts from the socceroos bench just knocked celtic out of the champions league
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xthere's no rumours about any more australian's headed to celtic. but he is still to secure a CB and a RB. He was said in an interview their transfer priorities were a CB, RB, and L/RW. Seems like Brighton will take Edouard once the ben white money is through so Im guessing they will probably look at a striker. On the wings they've picked up Abada - and Furuhashi has landed in london for quarantine but still needs to do a medical In CB and Starfelt has or is coming soon. Also the 2 young guys Shaw(?) as a fullback and Urhoghide in CB. My question - what Australian's do you think they are likely to pick up if any?? I honestly dont think Ange will even be looking our way for the moment. But I can think of a few who who would be decent pick ups. Limitations - they need to be young prospects with onsell worth with NT caps for UK visa rules. Or they need to be well established snr players that can walk into the first 11 - which would be mooy or ryan and so there is no one else really that fits this. 3 signings for celtic that I can see being decent and fitting Ange's style of play. -Atkinson in RB but he will need to get capped for the NT first which is pretty likely. He has decent onsell value. -Sainsbury in CB - I would say Degenek, but his passing is a bit suspect at times and might not fit Ange's style. Also he was dropped from Ange's yokohama. Maybe Curtis Good now he is getting games under his belt without the injuries. -Rukavytsya up front - but in writing this I've just seen he has signed for Perth. Doesn't really fit the limitations, but he would be a decent cheap signing that could have been a solid goal scoring backup striker. Celtic would be well aware of him having shown they scout the Israeli league. There's still talk of mooy going to us. Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle. On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again. Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.
If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs ( both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return). ______ I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer ( depends on who you ask 😉 ).... What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players?? The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players. There it is - Bolded and underlined above. Guilty of first degree Euro Snobbery! PIFA also said the same thing earlier. Thou shalt be punished by watching Central coast mariners only for 2 years :) Starting team for Celtic last night... Bain Ralston Welsh Murray Taylor Soro Turnbull McGregor Abada Edouard Christie Had they been available to ange last night, the socceroos entire back 5 would have started over those above - maybe taylor over behich but its tight. Mooy would start over Soro, Hrustic would get in over Turnbull or Abada, Leckie or Boyle maybe in there too. So the three players you mentioned that I disagreed with you stating that I think we should be going be going for higher class players means that I said "no Australian players is Celtic quality"?? Again, please show me where Ibhave ever said such a thing??
Also that I said I rate Mooy and think he would do fine at Celtic, although he will need to a HUGE pay cut to be able to sign for Celtic somehow means that I believe "no Australian player is Celtic quality", and that I am a "Euro Snob"?? Not once have I said anything of the sort that you are accusing me of. I guess making shit up is better than dealing in truths.
Finally, the squad that played last night will not be the final squad come the closing of the transfer window. Yet again it is the board wasting time trying to do things on the cheap that hurts us.
The specific players I mentioned were in my post were..
Mooy
Ryan
Atkinson
Grant
Sainsbury
Good
Smith
Behich
Nearly all of them would have started for celtic last night. I'll concede possibly Taylor over smith/behich but its tight. And maybe not Good over Welsh but certainly over Murray.
In regards to your comment about it 'not bring being the final squad' ... you are now shifting your argument - if you read what you originally said, you stated the players i mentioned would 'have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. '
Just admit it was a shortsighted comment and you had a momentary lapse of eurosnobbery and i'll stop with this :p
Don’t talk fuckin shite man. Apart from Mooy the rest are either rubbish or unproven. Argument done, back tae yer camels.
Also in case you missed it, one of those shite players we have that starts from the socceroos bench just knocked celtic out of the champions league
Love your work Bunch Of Hacks!!! 😂😂😂 But how dare you be pro Aussie players on an Australian Football forum 😂
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Ange doesn't owe Australian football anything. He can sign Aussie footballers if he wants. If he doesn't want to sign Aussie footballers, he shouldn't.
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+xAnge doesn't owe Australian football anything. He can sign Aussie footballers if he wants. If he doesn't want to sign Aussie footballers, he shouldn't. No one is saying he should.. the question i responded to was from Inala brah which was which Australian players would be decent pickups for celtic, before then being told none of the players I mentioned would be good enough to displace the incumbents (despite the fact one of the socceroos bench players in mabil just knocked celtic out of CL) Ange certainly doesn't have to sign Australian in fact he needs to desperately sign the best players possible within the limited budget he has, and he needs to do it Pronto as our season has already started and our squad is threadbare. Having said that Australia is a market ange knows, he would still follow the a league and the socceroos/Olyroos and finally Australian players are grossly undervalued on world terms, spains market value of 450mil vs our 13mil squad in the Olympics is testament to that .
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xthere's no rumours about any more australian's headed to celtic. but he is still to secure a CB and a RB. He was said in an interview their transfer priorities were a CB, RB, and L/RW. Seems like Brighton will take Edouard once the ben white money is through so Im guessing they will probably look at a striker. On the wings they've picked up Abada - and Furuhashi has landed in london for quarantine but still needs to do a medical In CB and Starfelt has or is coming soon. Also the 2 young guys Shaw(?) as a fullback and Urhoghide in CB. My question - what Australian's do you think they are likely to pick up if any?? I honestly dont think Ange will even be looking our way for the moment. But I can think of a few who who would be decent pick ups. Limitations - they need to be young prospects with onsell worth with NT caps for UK visa rules. Or they need to be well established snr players that can walk into the first 11 - which would be mooy or ryan and so there is no one else really that fits this. 3 signings for celtic that I can see being decent and fitting Ange's style of play. -Atkinson in RB but he will need to get capped for the NT first which is pretty likely. He has decent onsell value. -Sainsbury in CB - I would say Degenek, but his passing is a bit suspect at times and might not fit Ange's style. Also he was dropped from Ange's yokohama. Maybe Curtis Good now he is getting games under his belt without the injuries. -Rukavytsya up front - but in writing this I've just seen he has signed for Perth. Doesn't really fit the limitations, but he would be a decent cheap signing that could have been a solid goal scoring backup striker. Celtic would be well aware of him having shown they scout the Israeli league. There's still talk of mooy going to us. Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle. On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again. Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.
If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs ( both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return). ______ I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer ( depends on who you ask 😉 ).... What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players?? The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players. There it is - Bolded and underlined above. Guilty of first degree Euro Snobbery! PIFA also said the same thing earlier. Thou shalt be punished by watching Central coast mariners only for 2 years :) Starting team for Celtic last night... Bain Ralston Welsh Murray Taylor Soro Turnbull McGregor Abada Edouard Christie Had they been available to ange last night, the socceroos entire back 5 would have started over those above - maybe taylor over behich but its tight. Mooy would start over Soro, Hrustic would get in over Turnbull or Abada, Leckie or Boyle maybe in there too. So the three players you mentioned that I disagreed with you stating that I think we should be going be going for higher class players means that I said "no Australian players is Celtic quality"?? Again, please show me where Ibhave ever said such a thing??
Also that I said I rate Mooy and think he would do fine at Celtic, although he will need to a HUGE pay cut to be able to sign for Celtic somehow means that I believe "no Australian player is Celtic quality", and that I am a "Euro Snob"?? Not once have I said anything of the sort that you are accusing me of. I guess making shit up is better than dealing in truths.
Finally, the squad that played last night will not be the final squad come the closing of the transfer window. Yet again it is the board wasting time trying to do things on the cheap that hurts us.
The specific players I mentioned were in my post were..
Mooy
Ryan
Atkinson
Grant
Sainsbury
Good
Smith
Behich
Nearly all of them would have started for celtic last night. I'll concede possibly Taylor over smith/behich but its tight. And maybe not Good over Welsh but certainly over Murray.
In regards to your comment about it 'not bring being the final squad' ... you are now shifting your argument - if you read what you originally said, you stated the players i mentioned would 'have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. '
Just admit it was a shortsighted comment and you had a momentary lapse of eurosnobbery and i'll stop with this :p
Ryan is a non starter as he signed elsewhere. Mooy needs to take a huge cut which there has been no signal that he will. As for the squad lastnight not being the final squad - Did Jullien play?? Furuhashi?? Starfelt?? All I'm doing is stating [FACTS].
As I have said before, we are just going to have to agree to disagree 🙂
At the time you said " have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. ' .... Starfelt and furuhashi weren't even there. FACTS
I was clearly talking about the comment regarding the comment made regarding the line-up against Midtjylland not being the final squad come the close of the transfer window. But if you want to get technical/petty, one could say all the players you mentioned weren't even there (nor more than likely even be there 😉).
Also for the record Furuhashi had be signed by then.
No shit its called a hypothetical.
Again, you said that none of the players I mentioned were good enough.. then ended up admitting Ryan and mooy were, without openly conceding you were wrong on that point.
And even with furuhashi and starfelt, Ryan, mooy, hrustic, Atkinson, sains and possibly behich/ Smith would still start over their incumbents... players you stated "would be a challenge to displace".
Just admit it, it was a throwaway negative put down of the socceroos without actually much thought ...
The players I was talking about/responsing to you were Atkinson, Sainsbury and Grant - Hence I said "I wouldnae be picking any of the four players (which included Ralston) that you just mentioned, and that I would choose Lee O'Connor over the others mentioned (page 22 @ 2:13pm).
It was a few post later that you and I talked about Ryan and Mooy. I said even though I rated Ryan, but that boat has sailed. As for Mooy, yes I do believe he could offer something to Celtic, but there is no point having that conversation unless he takes a HUGE paycut.
I've never changed point, been consistent throughout our whole conversation. I have also on many occasions have admitted that Ralston isn't good enough, and that like usual the board are dragging their feet leaving things to the last minute trying to do things on the extreme cheap and why we once again have failed to qualify for the Champions League (I've said this many times in different threads).
I don't even know why we are arguing, other than you are not happy with me because I want Celtic to sign the best possible players that we can possible sign, while you seem content for Celtic to sign any Australian whether or not there are possible better options/players out there.
Again, for the whatever number of times I've mentioned this - We are just going to have to agree to disagree 😟🙂
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xthere's no rumours about any more australian's headed to celtic. but he is still to secure a CB and a RB. He was said in an interview their transfer priorities were a CB, RB, and L/RW. Seems like Brighton will take Edouard once the ben white money is through so Im guessing they will probably look at a striker. On the wings they've picked up Abada - and Furuhashi has landed in london for quarantine but still needs to do a medical In CB and Starfelt has or is coming soon. Also the 2 young guys Shaw(?) as a fullback and Urhoghide in CB. My question - what Australian's do you think they are likely to pick up if any?? I honestly dont think Ange will even be looking our way for the moment. But I can think of a few who who would be decent pick ups. Limitations - they need to be young prospects with onsell worth with NT caps for UK visa rules. Or they need to be well established snr players that can walk into the first 11 - which would be mooy or ryan and so there is no one else really that fits this. 3 signings for celtic that I can see being decent and fitting Ange's style of play. -Atkinson in RB but he will need to get capped for the NT first which is pretty likely. He has decent onsell value. -Sainsbury in CB - I would say Degenek, but his passing is a bit suspect at times and might not fit Ange's style. Also he was dropped from Ange's yokohama. Maybe Curtis Good now he is getting games under his belt without the injuries. -Rukavytsya up front - but in writing this I've just seen he has signed for Perth. Doesn't really fit the limitations, but he would be a decent cheap signing that could have been a solid goal scoring backup striker. Celtic would be well aware of him having shown they scout the Israeli league. There's still talk of mooy going to us. Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle. On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again. Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.
If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs ( both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return). ______ I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer ( depends on who you ask 😉 ).... What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players?? The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players. There it is - Bolded and underlined above. Guilty of first degree Euro Snobbery! PIFA also said the same thing earlier. Thou shalt be punished by watching Central coast mariners only for 2 years :) Starting team for Celtic last night... Bain Ralston Welsh Murray Taylor Soro Turnbull McGregor Abada Edouard Christie Had they been available to ange last night, the socceroos entire back 5 would have started over those above - maybe taylor over behich but its tight. Mooy would start over Soro, Hrustic would get in over Turnbull or Abada, Leckie or Boyle maybe in there too. So the three players you mentioned that I disagreed with you stating that I think we should be going be going for higher class players means that I said "no Australian players is Celtic quality"?? Again, please show me where Ibhave ever said such a thing??
Also that I said I rate Mooy and think he would do fine at Celtic, although he will need to a HUGE pay cut to be able to sign for Celtic somehow means that I believe "no Australian player is Celtic quality", and that I am a "Euro Snob"?? Not once have I said anything of the sort that you are accusing me of. I guess making shit up is better than dealing in truths.
Finally, the squad that played last night will not be the final squad come the closing of the transfer window. Yet again it is the board wasting time trying to do things on the cheap that hurts us.
The specific players I mentioned were in my post were..
Mooy
Ryan
Atkinson
Grant
Sainsbury
Good
Smith
Behich
Nearly all of them would have started for celtic last night. I'll concede possibly Taylor over smith/behich but its tight. And maybe not Good over Welsh but certainly over Murray.
In regards to your comment about it 'not bring being the final squad' ... you are now shifting your argument - if you read what you originally said, you stated the players i mentioned would 'have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. '
Just admit it was a shortsighted comment and you had a momentary lapse of eurosnobbery and i'll stop with this :p
Don’t talk fuckin shite man. Apart from Mooy the rest are either rubbish or unproven. Argument done, back tae yer camels.
Also in case you missed it, one of those shite players we have that starts from the socceroos bench just knocked celtic out of the champions league
Love your work Bunch Of Hacks!!! 😂😂😂 But how dare you be pro Aussie players on an Australian Football forum 😂
There is nothing wrong with "being pro Aussie players", but when it comes to clubs signing players it doesn't matter what nationality it says on their passports. The better of the players should always be signed if/when the circumstances allowed, otherwise the club's board are not doing their their jobs right, and should be fired - It's as simple as that. I honestly don't understand why you fail to grasp that concept.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xthere's no rumours about any more australian's headed to celtic. but he is still to secure a CB and a RB. He was said in an interview their transfer priorities were a CB, RB, and L/RW. Seems like Brighton will take Edouard once the ben white money is through so Im guessing they will probably look at a striker. On the wings they've picked up Abada - and Furuhashi has landed in london for quarantine but still needs to do a medical In CB and Starfelt has or is coming soon. Also the 2 young guys Shaw(?) as a fullback and Urhoghide in CB. My question - what Australian's do you think they are likely to pick up if any?? I honestly dont think Ange will even be looking our way for the moment. But I can think of a few who who would be decent pick ups. Limitations - they need to be young prospects with onsell worth with NT caps for UK visa rules. Or they need to be well established snr players that can walk into the first 11 - which would be mooy or ryan and so there is no one else really that fits this. 3 signings for celtic that I can see being decent and fitting Ange's style of play. -Atkinson in RB but he will need to get capped for the NT first which is pretty likely. He has decent onsell value. -Sainsbury in CB - I would say Degenek, but his passing is a bit suspect at times and might not fit Ange's style. Also he was dropped from Ange's yokohama. Maybe Curtis Good now he is getting games under his belt without the injuries. -Rukavytsya up front - but in writing this I've just seen he has signed for Perth. Doesn't really fit the limitations, but he would be a decent cheap signing that could have been a solid goal scoring backup striker. Celtic would be well aware of him having shown they scout the Israeli league. There's still talk of mooy going to us. Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle. On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again. Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.
If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs ( both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return). ______ I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer ( depends on who you ask 😉 ).... What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players?? The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players. There it is - Bolded and underlined above. Guilty of first degree Euro Snobbery! PIFA also said the same thing earlier. Thou shalt be punished by watching Central coast mariners only for 2 years :) Starting team for Celtic last night... Bain Ralston Welsh Murray Taylor Soro Turnbull McGregor Abada Edouard Christie Had they been available to ange last night, the socceroos entire back 5 would have started over those above - maybe taylor over behich but its tight. Mooy would start over Soro, Hrustic would get in over Turnbull or Abada, Leckie or Boyle maybe in there too. So the three players you mentioned that I disagreed with you stating that I think we should be going be going for higher class players means that I said "no Australian players is Celtic quality"?? Again, please show me where Ibhave ever said such a thing??
Also that I said I rate Mooy and think he would do fine at Celtic, although he will need to a HUGE pay cut to be able to sign for Celtic somehow means that I believe "no Australian player is Celtic quality", and that I am a "Euro Snob"?? Not once have I said anything of the sort that you are accusing me of. I guess making shit up is better than dealing in truths.
Finally, the squad that played last night will not be the final squad come the closing of the transfer window. Yet again it is the board wasting time trying to do things on the cheap that hurts us.
The specific players I mentioned were in my post were..
Mooy
Ryan
Atkinson
Grant
Sainsbury
Good
Smith
Behich
Nearly all of them would have started for celtic last night. I'll concede possibly Taylor over smith/behich but its tight. And maybe not Good over Welsh but certainly over Murray.
In regards to your comment about it 'not bring being the final squad' ... you are now shifting your argument - if you read what you originally said, you stated the players i mentioned would 'have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. '
Just admit it was a shortsighted comment and you had a momentary lapse of eurosnobbery and i'll stop with this :p
Don’t talk fuckin shite man. Apart from Mooy the rest are either rubbish or unproven. Argument done, back tae yer camels.
Also in case you missed it, one of those shite players we have that starts from the socceroos bench just knocked celtic out of the champions league
Love your work Bunch Of Hacks!!! 😂😂😂 But how dare you be pro Aussie players on an Australian Football forum 😂
There is nothing wrong with "being pro Aussie players", but when it comes to clubs signing players it doesn't matter what nationality it says on their passports. The better of the players should always be signed if/when the circumstances allowed, otherwise the club's board are not doing their their jobs right, and should be fired - It's as simple as that. I honestly don't understand why you fail to grasp that concept.
Did you even watch the Olyroos games?? Atkinson for example is becoming a great player and could be a real asset for your club - just happens to be Aussie - but given limited budget for top players as u say - can’t afford Mooy- Ryan gone to Spain- someone like Atkinson or even Deng would be WAY cheaper for celtic board and could do really well there
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xthere's no rumours about any more australian's headed to celtic. but he is still to secure a CB and a RB. He was said in an interview their transfer priorities were a CB, RB, and L/RW. Seems like Brighton will take Edouard once the ben white money is through so Im guessing they will probably look at a striker. On the wings they've picked up Abada - and Furuhashi has landed in london for quarantine but still needs to do a medical In CB and Starfelt has or is coming soon. Also the 2 young guys Shaw(?) as a fullback and Urhoghide in CB. My question - what Australian's do you think they are likely to pick up if any?? I honestly dont think Ange will even be looking our way for the moment. But I can think of a few who who would be decent pick ups. Limitations - they need to be young prospects with onsell worth with NT caps for UK visa rules. Or they need to be well established snr players that can walk into the first 11 - which would be mooy or ryan and so there is no one else really that fits this. 3 signings for celtic that I can see being decent and fitting Ange's style of play. -Atkinson in RB but he will need to get capped for the NT first which is pretty likely. He has decent onsell value. -Sainsbury in CB - I would say Degenek, but his passing is a bit suspect at times and might not fit Ange's style. Also he was dropped from Ange's yokohama. Maybe Curtis Good now he is getting games under his belt without the injuries. -Rukavytsya up front - but in writing this I've just seen he has signed for Perth. Doesn't really fit the limitations, but he would be a decent cheap signing that could have been a solid goal scoring backup striker. Celtic would be well aware of him having shown they scout the Israeli league. There's still talk of mooy going to us. Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle. On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again. Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.
If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs ( both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return). ______ I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer ( depends on who you ask 😉 ).... What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players?? The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players. There it is - Bolded and underlined above. Guilty of first degree Euro Snobbery! PIFA also said the same thing earlier. Thou shalt be punished by watching Central coast mariners only for 2 years :) Starting team for Celtic last night... Bain Ralston Welsh Murray Taylor Soro Turnbull McGregor Abada Edouard Christie Had they been available to ange last night, the socceroos entire back 5 would have started over those above - maybe taylor over behich but its tight. Mooy would start over Soro, Hrustic would get in over Turnbull or Abada, Leckie or Boyle maybe in there too. So the three players you mentioned that I disagreed with you stating that I think we should be going be going for higher class players means that I said "no Australian players is Celtic quality"?? Again, please show me where Ibhave ever said such a thing??
Also that I said I rate Mooy and think he would do fine at Celtic, although he will need to a HUGE pay cut to be able to sign for Celtic somehow means that I believe "no Australian player is Celtic quality", and that I am a "Euro Snob"?? Not once have I said anything of the sort that you are accusing me of. I guess making shit up is better than dealing in truths.
Finally, the squad that played last night will not be the final squad come the closing of the transfer window. Yet again it is the board wasting time trying to do things on the cheap that hurts us.
The specific players I mentioned were in my post were..
Mooy
Ryan
Atkinson
Grant
Sainsbury
Good
Smith
Behich
Nearly all of them would have started for celtic last night. I'll concede possibly Taylor over smith/behich but its tight. And maybe not Good over Welsh but certainly over Murray.
In regards to your comment about it 'not bring being the final squad' ... you are now shifting your argument - if you read what you originally said, you stated the players i mentioned would 'have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. '
Just admit it was a shortsighted comment and you had a momentary lapse of eurosnobbery and i'll stop with this :p
Don’t talk fuckin shite man. Apart from Mooy the rest are either rubbish or unproven. Argument done, back tae yer camels.
Also in case you missed it, one of those shite players we have that starts from the socceroos bench just knocked celtic out of the champions league
Nowhere in your post did you mention Mabil ! Try and stay within your range.
BTW well done Mabil.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xthere's no rumours about any more australian's headed to celtic. but he is still to secure a CB and a RB. He was said in an interview their transfer priorities were a CB, RB, and L/RW. Seems like Brighton will take Edouard once the ben white money is through so Im guessing they will probably look at a striker. On the wings they've picked up Abada - and Furuhashi has landed in london for quarantine but still needs to do a medical In CB and Starfelt has or is coming soon. Also the 2 young guys Shaw(?) as a fullback and Urhoghide in CB. My question - what Australian's do you think they are likely to pick up if any?? I honestly dont think Ange will even be looking our way for the moment. But I can think of a few who who would be decent pick ups. Limitations - they need to be young prospects with onsell worth with NT caps for UK visa rules. Or they need to be well established snr players that can walk into the first 11 - which would be mooy or ryan and so there is no one else really that fits this. 3 signings for celtic that I can see being decent and fitting Ange's style of play. -Atkinson in RB but he will need to get capped for the NT first which is pretty likely. He has decent onsell value. -Sainsbury in CB - I would say Degenek, but his passing is a bit suspect at times and might not fit Ange's style. Also he was dropped from Ange's yokohama. Maybe Curtis Good now he is getting games under his belt without the injuries. -Rukavytsya up front - but in writing this I've just seen he has signed for Perth. Doesn't really fit the limitations, but he would be a decent cheap signing that could have been a solid goal scoring backup striker. Celtic would be well aware of him having shown they scout the Israeli league. There's still talk of mooy going to us. Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle. On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again. Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.
If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs ( both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return). ______ I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer ( depends on who you ask 😉 ).... What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players?? The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players. There it is - Bolded and underlined above. Guilty of first degree Euro Snobbery! PIFA also said the same thing earlier. Thou shalt be punished by watching Central coast mariners only for 2 years :) Starting team for Celtic last night... Bain Ralston Welsh Murray Taylor Soro Turnbull McGregor Abada Edouard Christie Had they been available to ange last night, the socceroos entire back 5 would have started over those above - maybe taylor over behich but its tight. Mooy would start over Soro, Hrustic would get in over Turnbull or Abada, Leckie or Boyle maybe in there too. So the three players you mentioned that I disagreed with you stating that I think we should be going be going for higher class players means that I said "no Australian players is Celtic quality"?? Again, please show me where Ibhave ever said such a thing??
Also that I said I rate Mooy and think he would do fine at Celtic, although he will need to a HUGE pay cut to be able to sign for Celtic somehow means that I believe "no Australian player is Celtic quality", and that I am a "Euro Snob"?? Not once have I said anything of the sort that you are accusing me of. I guess making shit up is better than dealing in truths.
Finally, the squad that played last night will not be the final squad come the closing of the transfer window. Yet again it is the board wasting time trying to do things on the cheap that hurts us.
The specific players I mentioned were in my post were..
Mooy
Ryan
Atkinson
Grant
Sainsbury
Good
Smith
Behich
Nearly all of them would have started for celtic last night. I'll concede possibly Taylor over smith/behich but its tight. And maybe not Good over Welsh but certainly over Murray.
In regards to your comment about it 'not bring being the final squad' ... you are now shifting your argument - if you read what you originally said, you stated the players i mentioned would 'have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. '
Just admit it was a shortsighted comment and you had a momentary lapse of eurosnobbery and i'll stop with this :p
Don’t talk fuckin shite man. Apart from Mooy the rest are either rubbish or unproven. Argument done, back tae yer camels.
Also in case you missed it, one of those shite players we have that starts from the socceroos bench just knocked celtic out of the champions league
Love your work Bunch Of Hacks!!! 😂😂😂 But how dare you be pro Aussie players on an Australian Football forum 😂
There is nothing wrong with "being pro Aussie players", but when it comes to clubs signing players it doesn't matter what nationality it says on their passports. The better of the players should always be signed if/when the circumstances allowed, otherwise the club's board are not doing their their jobs right, and should be fired - It's as simple as that. I honestly don't understand why you fail to grasp that concept.
Did you even watch the Olyroos games?? Atkinson for example is becoming a great player and could be a real asset for your club - just happens to be Aussie - but given limited budget for top players as u say - can’t afford Mooy- Ryan gone to Spain- someone like Atkinson or even Deng would be WAY cheaper for celtic board and could do really well there
Atkinson is not even a full international yet, so far from becoming great. 71 games for MC in your career and no one lining up to buy him. Hmmm.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xthere's no rumours about any more australian's headed to celtic. but he is still to secure a CB and a RB. He was said in an interview their transfer priorities were a CB, RB, and L/RW. Seems like Brighton will take Edouard once the ben white money is through so Im guessing they will probably look at a striker. On the wings they've picked up Abada - and Furuhashi has landed in london for quarantine but still needs to do a medical In CB and Starfelt has or is coming soon. Also the 2 young guys Shaw(?) as a fullback and Urhoghide in CB. My question - what Australian's do you think they are likely to pick up if any?? I honestly dont think Ange will even be looking our way for the moment. But I can think of a few who who would be decent pick ups. Limitations - they need to be young prospects with onsell worth with NT caps for UK visa rules. Or they need to be well established snr players that can walk into the first 11 - which would be mooy or ryan and so there is no one else really that fits this. 3 signings for celtic that I can see being decent and fitting Ange's style of play. -Atkinson in RB but he will need to get capped for the NT first which is pretty likely. He has decent onsell value. -Sainsbury in CB - I would say Degenek, but his passing is a bit suspect at times and might not fit Ange's style. Also he was dropped from Ange's yokohama. Maybe Curtis Good now he is getting games under his belt without the injuries. -Rukavytsya up front - but in writing this I've just seen he has signed for Perth. Doesn't really fit the limitations, but he would be a decent cheap signing that could have been a solid goal scoring backup striker. Celtic would be well aware of him having shown they scout the Israeli league. There's still talk of mooy going to us. Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle. On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again. Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.
If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs ( both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return). ______ I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer ( depends on who you ask 😉 ).... What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players?? The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players. There it is - Bolded and underlined above. Guilty of first degree Euro Snobbery! PIFA also said the same thing earlier. Thou shalt be punished by watching Central coast mariners only for 2 years :) Starting team for Celtic last night... Bain Ralston Welsh Murray Taylor Soro Turnbull McGregor Abada Edouard Christie Had they been available to ange last night, the socceroos entire back 5 would have started over those above - maybe taylor over behich but its tight. Mooy would start over Soro, Hrustic would get in over Turnbull or Abada, Leckie or Boyle maybe in there too. So the three players you mentioned that I disagreed with you stating that I think we should be going be going for higher class players means that I said "no Australian players is Celtic quality"?? Again, please show me where Ibhave ever said such a thing??
Also that I said I rate Mooy and think he would do fine at Celtic, although he will need to a HUGE pay cut to be able to sign for Celtic somehow means that I believe "no Australian player is Celtic quality", and that I am a "Euro Snob"?? Not once have I said anything of the sort that you are accusing me of. I guess making shit up is better than dealing in truths.
Finally, the squad that played last night will not be the final squad come the closing of the transfer window. Yet again it is the board wasting time trying to do things on the cheap that hurts us.
The specific players I mentioned were in my post were..
Mooy
Ryan
Atkinson
Grant
Sainsbury
Good
Smith
Behich
Nearly all of them would have started for celtic last night. I'll concede possibly Taylor over smith/behich but its tight. And maybe not Good over Welsh but certainly over Murray.
In regards to your comment about it 'not bring being the final squad' ... you are now shifting your argument - if you read what you originally said, you stated the players i mentioned would 'have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. '
Just admit it was a shortsighted comment and you had a momentary lapse of eurosnobbery and i'll stop with this :p
Don’t talk fuckin shite man. Apart from Mooy the rest are either rubbish or unproven. Argument done, back tae yer camels.
Also in case you missed it, one of those shite players we have that starts from the socceroos bench just knocked celtic out of the champions league
Love your work Bunch Of Hacks!!! 😂😂😂 But how dare you be pro Aussie players on an Australian Football forum 😂
There is nothing wrong with "being pro Aussie players", but when it comes to clubs signing players it doesn't matter what nationality it says on their passports. The better of the players should always be signed if/when the circumstances allowed, otherwise the club's board are not doing their their jobs right, and should be fired - It's as simple as that. I honestly don't understand why you fail to grasp that concept.
Did you even watch the Olyroos games?? Atkinson for example is becoming a great player and could be a real asset for your club - just happens to be Aussie - but given limited budget for top players as u say - can’t afford Mooy- Ryan gone to Spain- someone like Atkinson or even Deng would be WAY cheaper for celtic board and could do really well there
Atkinson is not even a full international yet, so far from becoming great. 71 games for MC in your career and no one lining up to buy him. Hmmm.
Some smart overseas club will want/buy him soon enough- probably quite cheaply too
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+x+xAnge doesn't owe Australian football anything. He can sign Aussie footballers if he wants. If he doesn't want to sign Aussie footballers, he shouldn't. No one is saying he should.. the question i responded to was from Inala brah which was which Australian players would be decent pickups for celtic, before then being told none of the players I mentioned would be good enough to displace the incumbents (despite the fact one of the socceroos bench players in mabil just knocked celtic out of CL) Ange certainly doesn't have to sign Australian in fact he needs to desperately sign the best players possible within the limited budget he has, and he needs to do it Pronto as our season has already started and our squad is threadbare. Having said that Australia is a market ange knows, he would still follow the a league and the socceroos/Olyroos and finally Australian players are grossly undervalued on world terms, spains market value of 450mil vs our 13mil squad in the Olympics is testament to that . Well, maybe he doesn't rate the Aussie boys you mentioned or else he would have asked the club to make contact.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xthere's no rumours about any more australian's headed to celtic. but he is still to secure a CB and a RB. He was said in an interview their transfer priorities were a CB, RB, and L/RW. Seems like Brighton will take Edouard once the ben white money is through so Im guessing they will probably look at a striker. On the wings they've picked up Abada - and Furuhashi has landed in london for quarantine but still needs to do a medical In CB and Starfelt has or is coming soon. Also the 2 young guys Shaw(?) as a fullback and Urhoghide in CB. My question - what Australian's do you think they are likely to pick up if any?? I honestly dont think Ange will even be looking our way for the moment. But I can think of a few who who would be decent pick ups. Limitations - they need to be young prospects with onsell worth with NT caps for UK visa rules. Or they need to be well established snr players that can walk into the first 11 - which would be mooy or ryan and so there is no one else really that fits this. 3 signings for celtic that I can see being decent and fitting Ange's style of play. -Atkinson in RB but he will need to get capped for the NT first which is pretty likely. He has decent onsell value. -Sainsbury in CB - I would say Degenek, but his passing is a bit suspect at times and might not fit Ange's style. Also he was dropped from Ange's yokohama. Maybe Curtis Good now he is getting games under his belt without the injuries. -Rukavytsya up front - but in writing this I've just seen he has signed for Perth. Doesn't really fit the limitations, but he would be a decent cheap signing that could have been a solid goal scoring backup striker. Celtic would be well aware of him having shown they scout the Israeli league. There's still talk of mooy going to us. Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle. On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again. Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.
If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs ( both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return). ______ I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer ( depends on who you ask 😉 ).... What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players?? The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players. There it is - Bolded and underlined above. Guilty of first degree Euro Snobbery! PIFA also said the same thing earlier. Thou shalt be punished by watching Central coast mariners only for 2 years :) Starting team for Celtic last night... Bain Ralston Welsh Murray Taylor Soro Turnbull McGregor Abada Edouard Christie Had they been available to ange last night, the socceroos entire back 5 would have started over those above - maybe taylor over behich but its tight. Mooy would start over Soro, Hrustic would get in over Turnbull or Abada, Leckie or Boyle maybe in there too. So the three players you mentioned that I disagreed with you stating that I think we should be going be going for higher class players means that I said "no Australian players is Celtic quality"?? Again, please show me where Ibhave ever said such a thing??
Also that I said I rate Mooy and think he would do fine at Celtic, although he will need to a HUGE pay cut to be able to sign for Celtic somehow means that I believe "no Australian player is Celtic quality", and that I am a "Euro Snob"?? Not once have I said anything of the sort that you are accusing me of. I guess making shit up is better than dealing in truths.
Finally, the squad that played last night will not be the final squad come the closing of the transfer window. Yet again it is the board wasting time trying to do things on the cheap that hurts us.
The specific players I mentioned were in my post were..
Mooy
Ryan
Atkinson
Grant
Sainsbury
Good
Smith
Behich
Nearly all of them would have started for celtic last night. I'll concede possibly Taylor over smith/behich but its tight. And maybe not Good over Welsh but certainly over Murray.
In regards to your comment about it 'not bring being the final squad' ... you are now shifting your argument - if you read what you originally said, you stated the players i mentioned would 'have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. '
Just admit it was a shortsighted comment and you had a momentary lapse of eurosnobbery and i'll stop with this :p
Don’t talk fuckin shite man. Apart from Mooy the rest are either rubbish or unproven. Argument done, back tae yer camels.
Also in case you missed it, one of those shite players we have that starts from the socceroos bench just knocked celtic out of the champions league
Love your work Bunch Of Hacks!!! 😂😂😂 But how dare you be pro Aussie players on an Australian Football forum 😂
There is nothing wrong with "being pro Aussie players", but when it comes to clubs signing players it doesn't matter what nationality it says on their passports. The better of the players should always be signed if/when the circumstances allowed, otherwise the club's board are not doing their their jobs right, and should be fired - It's as simple as that. I honestly don't understand why you fail to grasp that concept.
Did you even watch the Olyroos games?? Atkinson for example is becoming a great player and could be a real asset for your club - just happens to be Aussie - but given limited budget for top players as u say - can’t afford Mooy- Ryan gone to Spain- someone like Atkinson or even Deng would be WAY cheaper for celtic board and could do really well there
Atkinson is not even a full international yet, so far from becoming great. 71 games for MC in your career and no one lining up to buy him. Hmmm.
Some smart overseas club will want/buy him soon enough- probably quite cheaply too
I hope for the boys sake that someone does.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xthere's no rumours about any more australian's headed to celtic. but he is still to secure a CB and a RB. He was said in an interview their transfer priorities were a CB, RB, and L/RW. Seems like Brighton will take Edouard once the ben white money is through so Im guessing they will probably look at a striker. On the wings they've picked up Abada - and Furuhashi has landed in london for quarantine but still needs to do a medical In CB and Starfelt has or is coming soon. Also the 2 young guys Shaw(?) as a fullback and Urhoghide in CB. My question - what Australian's do you think they are likely to pick up if any?? I honestly dont think Ange will even be looking our way for the moment. But I can think of a few who who would be decent pick ups. Limitations - they need to be young prospects with onsell worth with NT caps for UK visa rules. Or they need to be well established snr players that can walk into the first 11 - which would be mooy or ryan and so there is no one else really that fits this. 3 signings for celtic that I can see being decent and fitting Ange's style of play. -Atkinson in RB but he will need to get capped for the NT first which is pretty likely. He has decent onsell value. -Sainsbury in CB - I would say Degenek, but his passing is a bit suspect at times and might not fit Ange's style. Also he was dropped from Ange's yokohama. Maybe Curtis Good now he is getting games under his belt without the injuries. -Rukavytsya up front - but in writing this I've just seen he has signed for Perth. Doesn't really fit the limitations, but he would be a decent cheap signing that could have been a solid goal scoring backup striker. Celtic would be well aware of him having shown they scout the Israeli league. There's still talk of mooy going to us. Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle. On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again. Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.
If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs ( both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return). ______ I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer ( depends on who you ask 😉 ).... What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players?? The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players. There it is - Bolded and underlined above. Guilty of first degree Euro Snobbery! PIFA also said the same thing earlier. Thou shalt be punished by watching Central coast mariners only for 2 years :) Starting team for Celtic last night... Bain Ralston Welsh Murray Taylor Soro Turnbull McGregor Abada Edouard Christie Had they been available to ange last night, the socceroos entire back 5 would have started over those above - maybe taylor over behich but its tight. Mooy would start over Soro, Hrustic would get in over Turnbull or Abada, Leckie or Boyle maybe in there too. So the three players you mentioned that I disagreed with you stating that I think we should be going be going for higher class players means that I said "no Australian players is Celtic quality"?? Again, please show me where Ibhave ever said such a thing??
Also that I said I rate Mooy and think he would do fine at Celtic, although he will need to a HUGE pay cut to be able to sign for Celtic somehow means that I believe "no Australian player is Celtic quality", and that I am a "Euro Snob"?? Not once have I said anything of the sort that you are accusing me of. I guess making shit up is better than dealing in truths.
Finally, the squad that played last night will not be the final squad come the closing of the transfer window. Yet again it is the board wasting time trying to do things on the cheap that hurts us.
The specific players I mentioned were in my post were..
Mooy
Ryan
Atkinson
Grant
Sainsbury
Good
Smith
Behich
Nearly all of them would have started for celtic last night. I'll concede possibly Taylor over smith/behich but its tight. And maybe not Good over Welsh but certainly over Murray.
In regards to your comment about it 'not bring being the final squad' ... you are now shifting your argument - if you read what you originally said, you stated the players i mentioned would 'have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. '
Just admit it was a shortsighted comment and you had a momentary lapse of eurosnobbery and i'll stop with this :p
Don’t talk fuckin shite man. Apart from Mooy the rest are either rubbish or unproven. Argument done, back tae yer camels.
Also in case you missed it, one of those shite players we have that starts from the socceroos bench just knocked celtic out of the champions league
Nowhere in your post did you mention Mabil ! Try and stay within your range.
BTW well done Mabil.
No shit.. but in your post you blanketly say "other than Mooy the rest are shite" ... those "rest" happen to start over mabil. And don't pretend for one second that if I had of included mabil in there you wouldn't still have made that comment.
FWIW I don't think mabil would be good enough to start for celtic over whats already there hence why I didn't name him. He'd get minutes from the bench or rotation defo but don't think he'd start over alada, furuhashi or Christie. Hrustic on the other hand would start.
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+x+x+xAnge doesn't owe Australian football anything. He can sign Aussie footballers if he wants. If he doesn't want to sign Aussie footballers, he shouldn't. No one is saying he should.. the question i responded to was from Inala brah which was which Australian players would be decent pickups for celtic, before then being told none of the players I mentioned would be good enough to displace the incumbents (despite the fact one of the socceroos bench players in mabil just knocked celtic out of CL) Ange certainly doesn't have to sign Australian in fact he needs to desperately sign the best players possible within the limited budget he has, and he needs to do it Pronto as our season has already started and our squad is threadbare. Having said that Australia is a market ange knows, he would still follow the a league and the socceroos/Olyroos and finally Australian players are grossly undervalued on world terms, spains market value of 450mil vs our 13mil squad in the Olympics is testament to that . Well, maybe he doesn't rate the Aussie boys you mentioned or else he would have asked the club to make contact. The thing is he has .. mooy and Ryan were both contacted, Ryan turned us down for Sociedad, discussions still going with mooy from reports. This is what got me going as ppl earlier in this post saying the players I mentioned/ aussie players aren't good enough for celtic. Ryan and mooy both been contacted and both would be stars. Soon as we signed ange, many on the celtic chatboards got excited that these 2 would be signed. Also whose to know that ange hasn't contacted other aussies or won't soon?! He's only just started. He doesn't have to sign aussies no one is saying that but certainly if I was in his shoes there are some quality bargains to be had from both Japan and Australia compared to the inflated price tags of what celfic normally buys and who would be better than his current players.. Atkinson being one of them. And as far as Japan goes that league is better than the spl comfortably albeit lacks a celtic and rangers. Only need to look at how many signings from that league end up cracking it in europe and were bought cheaply on world terms, and its a market that ange knows well. From the ceo's pressers it sounds like one of the reasons ange was hired.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xthere's no rumours about any more australian's headed to celtic. but he is still to secure a CB and a RB. He was said in an interview their transfer priorities were a CB, RB, and L/RW. Seems like Brighton will take Edouard once the ben white money is through so Im guessing they will probably look at a striker. On the wings they've picked up Abada - and Furuhashi has landed in london for quarantine but still needs to do a medical In CB and Starfelt has or is coming soon. Also the 2 young guys Shaw(?) as a fullback and Urhoghide in CB. My question - what Australian's do you think they are likely to pick up if any?? I honestly dont think Ange will even be looking our way for the moment. But I can think of a few who who would be decent pick ups. Limitations - they need to be young prospects with onsell worth with NT caps for UK visa rules. Or they need to be well established snr players that can walk into the first 11 - which would be mooy or ryan and so there is no one else really that fits this. 3 signings for celtic that I can see being decent and fitting Ange's style of play. -Atkinson in RB but he will need to get capped for the NT first which is pretty likely. He has decent onsell value. -Sainsbury in CB - I would say Degenek, but his passing is a bit suspect at times and might not fit Ange's style. Also he was dropped from Ange's yokohama. Maybe Curtis Good now he is getting games under his belt without the injuries. -Rukavytsya up front - but in writing this I've just seen he has signed for Perth. Doesn't really fit the limitations, but he would be a decent cheap signing that could have been a solid goal scoring backup striker. Celtic would be well aware of him having shown they scout the Israeli league. There's still talk of mooy going to us. Real real shame Ryan didn't come as he would be certain starter and fit anges system perfectly bringing his best football out. In terms of other players either Atkinson or Grant would both be an upgrade on Ralston. Smith or Behich on the left too would be upgrade on Taylor and suit the style better. Good or Sainsbury as ball playing center backs, mass loungo as a backup number 8. Other than those I cant see too many realistic options. Whilst I'm glad that you rate Australian players, I honestly don't think that any of the highlighted players are good enough to be playing for Celtic. PSV fans I talk to rate Behich and Sainsbury as two of the worst players that they've had in recent years [1 fan went as far to say that Behich is the worst player he's ever seen play for PSV], whilst I don't think that Good's body could handle the type of schedule that Celtic has without the constant breakdowns he had during his time at Newcastle. On the other players mentioned, I think Atkinson needs another year or two of regular football at Melb. City before he's ready to make the jump imo, while I also don't really rate Grant that highly. Admittedly, I don't see as much of him as some of the forum regulars, so maybe I'm missing something. I think he's got a big engine and a good work rate, but I don't think he has the technical skills required to have a successful European career. Smith's in a good spot at Seattle, so it'd be foolish for him to consider leaving, and Luongo has only played 43 games from a possible 103 games since signing for Sheffield Wednesday, which suggests he's either injury prone or out of favour: not good enough to earn a move again. Are you actually familiar with Celtics players? Again, the players i mention are better than the current incumbents. Not saying any of those transfers will ever happen but just saying those players are better than the incumbents. Nothing in above you said disproved that None of the players you mentioned IMHO are anywhere near good enough to be playing for Celtic, and would also have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them.
If when the board finally pulls their finger out of their arses hopefully we will see strength added were needed - ie wing-backs ( both sides), an extra CD (we just signed Starfelt, and need probably one more), and a new keeper (fingers crossed I'm hoping for Forster return). ______ I do have a personal question for you. There is no real wrong answer ( depends on who you ask 😉 ).... What comes first for you, Celtic or Australian players?? The reason I ask is, you seem fine settling/suggesting players (Australians) which to be blunt (IMO) are not Celtic calibre players. There it is - Bolded and underlined above. Guilty of first degree Euro Snobbery! PIFA also said the same thing earlier. Thou shalt be punished by watching Central coast mariners only for 2 years :) Starting team for Celtic last night... Bain Ralston Welsh Murray Taylor Soro Turnbull McGregor Abada Edouard Christie Had they been available to ange last night, the socceroos entire back 5 would have started over those above - maybe taylor over behich but its tight. Mooy would start over Soro, Hrustic would get in over Turnbull or Abada, Leckie or Boyle maybe in there too. So the three players you mentioned that I disagreed with you stating that I think we should be going be going for higher class players means that I said "no Australian players is Celtic quality"?? Again, please show me where Ibhave ever said such a thing??
Also that I said I rate Mooy and think he would do fine at Celtic, although he will need to a HUGE pay cut to be able to sign for Celtic somehow means that I believe "no Australian player is Celtic quality", and that I am a "Euro Snob"?? Not once have I said anything of the sort that you are accusing me of. I guess making shit up is better than dealing in truths.
Finally, the squad that played last night will not be the final squad come the closing of the transfer window. Yet again it is the board wasting time trying to do things on the cheap that hurts us.
The specific players I mentioned were in my post were..
Mooy
Ryan
Atkinson
Grant
Sainsbury
Good
Smith
Behich
Nearly all of them would have started for celtic last night. I'll concede possibly Taylor over smith/behich but its tight. And maybe not Good over Welsh but certainly over Murray.
In regards to your comment about it 'not bring being the final squad' ... you are now shifting your argument - if you read what you originally said, you stated the players i mentioned would 'have a challenge displacing those already there and ahead of them. '
Just admit it was a shortsighted comment and you had a momentary lapse of eurosnobbery and i'll stop with this :p
Don’t talk fuckin shite man. Apart from Mooy the rest are either rubbish or unproven. Argument done, back tae yer camels.
Also in case you missed it, one of those shite players we have that starts from the socceroos bench just knocked celtic out of the champions league
Nowhere in your post did you mention Mabil ! Try and stay within your range.
BTW well done Mabil.
No shit.. but in your post you blanketly say "other than Mooy the rest are shite" ... those "rest" happen to start over mabil. And don't pretend for one second that if I had of included mabil in there you wouldn't still have made that comment.
FWIW I don't think mabil would be good enough to start for celtic over whats already there hence why I didn't name him. He'd get minutes from the bench or rotation defo but don't think he'd start over alada, furuhashi or Christie. Hrustic on the other hand would start.
Yes , the rest of your shitey wee list you named.
FWIW Mabil is a decent player, whether he would get a game before Christie or Forrest is another matter.
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+xWhy is everything in Italics in this thread ? It's some weird thing with the current forum code.
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