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Heart_fan - 9 Jul 2021 1:13 PM
Can’t read the full article on the Herald Sun website, but appears that Melbourne City may well be closer to getting a stadium at Dandenong than WU are at this stage. 

WU are as quiet as can be on many fronts, and for the confidence of any fans they still may have, they need to actually follow through and communicate one way or the other about what is actually going on. 

$200k for a feasibility study that is planned to be finished later in the year. $100m-$175m to build and relies on federal government funding.

Western United are ahead but it doesn't mean it will stay that way for long. 
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Key points from the article:
  • The government will on Friday announce funding and a feasibility review for a 15,000 seat multipurpose venue for Melbourne’s fast growing south east.
  • Deloitte Australia will conduct the review and business case for a rectangular stadium estimated to cost up to $175 million.
  • Multi-purpose venue (soccer, rugby, festivals, concerts, etc)
  • Melbourne City FC will be involved (doesn't specify at what capacity)
  • The government would initially match Dandenong Council’s $100,000 for the study into the stadium’s viability.
  • Location would be on council owned land as per Team 11 bid.
  • Fed government would be called upon for funding.
  • Feasibility study expected to be finished this year.


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someguyjc - 9 Jul 2021 2:17 PM
Key points from the article:
  • The government will on Friday announce funding and a feasibility review for a 15,000 seat multipurpose venue for Melbourne’s fast growing south east.
  • Deloitte Australia will conduct the review and business case for a rectangular stadium estimated to cost up to $175 million.
  • Multi-purpose venue (soccer, rugby, festivals, concerts, etc)
  • Melbourne City FC will be involved (doesn't specify at what capacity)
  • The government would initially match Dandenong Council’s $100,000 for the study into the stadium’s viability.
  • Location would be on council owned land as per Team 11 bid.
  • Fed government would be called upon for funding.
  • Feasibility study expected to be finished this year.


Thanks for the summary. 

Interesting times. Even though I am in the Northern suburbs, I do tend to think City’s best chance for the future is making the South East it’s home - not just a training base. 

I am sure many will be annoyed it it does end up playing matches in Dandenong, but the chance to open up the significant South East catchment area is certainly something that will finally give the club added value.

As for WU, it’s hard to see what they do next with no signs of movement on this stadium vision they have.

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Heart_fan - 9 Jul 2021 1:13 PM
Can’t read the full article on the Herald Sun website, but appears that Melbourne City may well be closer to getting a stadium at Dandenong than WU are at this stage. 

WU are as quiet as can be on many fronts, and for the confidence of any fans they still may have, they need to actually follow through and communicate one way or the other about what is actually going on. 

Yeah city are pushing for it. I think team 11 had the plans drawn up and u guys have the money to pull it off
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Heart_fan - 9 Jul 2021 7:18 PM
someguyjc - 9 Jul 2021 2:17 PM

Thanks for the summary. 

Interesting times. Even though I am in the Northern suburbs, I do tend to think City’s best chance for the future is making the South East it’s home - not just a training base. 

I am sure many will be annoyed it it does end up playing matches in Dandenong, but the chance to open up the significant South East catchment area is certainly something that will finally give the club added value.

As for WU, it’s hard to see what they do next with no signs of movement on this stadium vision they have.

Once MC moves to Dandy, WU can use AAMI officially and there will be no stadium in Tarneit. You heard it here first.

People can moan as much as they like but WU are part of the APL and they won't punish themselves for not meeting the promises made to FFA. Probs explains why they are dragging their feet.








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AJF - 9 Jul 2021 10:52 PM
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Once MC moves to Dandy, WU can use AAMI officially and there will be no stadium in Tarneit. You heard it here first.

People can moan as much as they like but WU are part of the APL and they won't punish themselves for not meeting the promises made to FFA. Probs explains why they are dragging their feet.

Aami is not Western. WU don't belong there.
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It's a good time to make a play for such infrastructure with the WWC on the horizoni.
Would the Vic state govt be keen to lose a major tenant from AAMI?
Maybe it's not so far fetched that WU might end up there.

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bettega - 10 Jul 2021 10:51 AM
It's a good time to make a play for such infrastructure with the WWC on the horizoni.
Would the Vic state govt be keen to lose a major tenant from AAMI?
Maybe it's not so far fetched that WU might end up there.

You make a good point about losing a tenant, but for the social and political benefits of investing in the South East, they may well see it as a good investment anyway. 

The mix of State, Federal, local and CFG money that will be required though to build it would be very interesting to watch play out. I guess the feasibility study will certainly be the true test of the appetite to invest. 

As for WU, playing at AAMI is destined to fail. Already saw this year the lowest A League crowd recorded, and it does nothing to engage their target fan base.

The reality is that they either build the stadium in Tarneit, or they sell the licence and move on. This smoke and mirrors stuff is getting tiring and ultimately drags down the rest of the league. 

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I remember Inter Monaro well .... Always had a soft spot because, well my cousins all had Monaros. hahahahahhahahaha
Is the club still around mate?

Lol, but in even funnier news, it is derived from the region's Aboriginal name, and for reason of the local topography, translates to 'women's breasts'.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 6 Jul 2021 9:29 AM
mahony - 5 Jul 2021 8:35 PM

I remember Inter Monaro well .... Always had a soft spot because, well my cousins all had Monaros. hahahahahhahahaha
Is the club still around mate?

Nope, closed, clubhouse gone. New team Monaro Panthers in this place. Using the Inter strip which is nice.
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Apparently there may have been some shenanigans involved in the loss of the clubhouse, possibly involving a high profile state politician.

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mahony - 10 Jul 2021 1:11 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 6 Jul 2021 9:29 AM

Lol, but in even funnier news, it is derived from the region's Aboriginal name, and for reason of the local topography, translates to 'women's breasts'.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH that explains why all the Greek boys where desperate to get their hands on a Monaro... hahahahahahahah
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C'mon WU, City are turning over sods soon. It's time to get to bunnings and buy shovels! 
Pehlivanis it's time!
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What's the bet that a stadium will get built down the s.e suburbs before Wu's vaunted  stadium gets built??


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mahony - 10 Jul 2021 1:11 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 6 Jul 2021 9:29 AM

Lol, but in even funnier news, it is derived from the region's Aboriginal name, and for reason of the local topography, translates to 'women's breasts'.

You reckon? I've heard the exact same thing about 'Canberra'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canberra

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The word "Canberra" is popularly claimed to derive from the word Kambera or Canberry, which is claimed to mean "meeting place" in Ngunnawal, one of the Indigenous languages spoken in the district by Aboriginal Australians before European settlers arrived, although there is no clear evidence to support this.[25] An alternative definition has been claimed by numerous local commentators over the years, including the Ngunnawal elder Don Bell, whereby Canberra or Nganbra means "woman's breasts" and is the indigenous name for the two mountains, Black Mountain and Mount Ainslie, which lie almost opposite each other.[26] In the 1860s, the name was reported by Queanbeyan newspaper owner John Gale to be an interpretation of the name nganbra or nganbira, meaning "hollow between a woman's breasts", and referring to the Sullivans Creek floodplain between Mount Ainslie and Black Mountain.[27] An 1830s map of the region by Major Mitchell indeed does mark the Sullivan's Creek floodplain between these two mountains as "Nganbra". "Nganbra" or "Nganbira" could readily have been anglicised to the name "Canberry", as the locality soon become known to European settlers.





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John Aloisi is reportedly the frontrunner for the manager's job.

I think he actually did a pretty good job at Brisbane in his first two seasons so it will be interesting to see how he goes at a club that isn't skint.
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sub007 - 15 Jul 2021 1:08 PM
John Aloisi is reportedly the frontrunner for the manager's job.

I think he actually did a pretty good job at Brisbane in his first two seasons so it will be interesting to see how he goes at a club that isn't skint.

But wu is skint. Theyre doing a pretty good job of being Melbourne heart 
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 15 Jul 2021 1:16 PM
sub007 - 15 Jul 2021 1:08 PM

But wu is skint. Theyre doing a pretty good job of being Melbourne heart 

They aren’t though.

Theyve signed some expensive big name players and are one of the three clubs propping up the Jets.
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sub007 - 15 Jul 2021 5:40 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 15 Jul 2021 1:16 PM

They aren’t though.

Theyve signed some expensive big name players and are one of the three clubs propping up the Jets.

It’s still leading them down a path to failure at this rate.

The only thing that can save them is actually building the stadium, as they have no hope of being taken seriously without it.



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I understand the slander and disapproval of Western United considering all that's happened past few years with regards to there bid and the way the club is run.

But surely if they push for the stadium and facilities they've promised, they can actually become a respectable side. If there was no stadium coming in any way, or major issues with the club, good chance the FFA/APL couldve push them aside, but the league seems to like the benefits they bring. Extra derbies, more a league footprint in Melbourne and while we all dislike it, show casing our game in Tassie. Plus they currently one of three financially are keeping the jets alive.

We hope though, they can deliver the stadium, and id potentially say they could rebrand as either 'Western Melbourne United' or 'Werribee United' etc along those lines, focus on the population in and around them, still include western suburbs and the areas of Geelong and Ballarat but make the core region in and around the stadium/facilities with a rebranding to give them a solid and more supportable identity. 


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sub007 - 15 Jul 2021 5:40 PM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 15 Jul 2021 1:16 PM

They aren’t though.

Theyve signed some expensive big name players and are one of the three clubs propping up the Jets.

Rumoured to prop them up.  
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7 more days left in August, are they still breaking ground on the Werribee Wembley this month?
Lot of construction crews out there operating with imposed COVID restrictions would love for a new construction site to open up and create some more opportunities for paid work.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 23 Aug 2021 2:38 PM
7 more days left in August, are they still breaking ground on the Werribee Wembley this month?
Lot of construction crews out there operating with imposed COVID restrictions would love for a new construction site to open up and create some more opportunities for paid work.

F)$:4 this club for treating us all like suckers. Merge them with another team and get on with it 
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So today marked the deadline day for when the stadium would begin construction (by WU themselves a few months back, declaring July-August would be when they'd start construction).
I'm beginning think the 15k stadium has been quietly scrapped, but instead they'll now pivot towards only having the concept masterplan (including the 5k seater stadium & other synthetic pitches, training facilities), and just play the majority of matches at AAMI (but still play some smaller matches & FFA Cup ties & pre-season matches & W-League matches at the 5k one).
My reasonings for this is that if (more like when) Dandenong Stadium gets the tick of approval and City eventually move in, WU will be allowed to move into AAMI (being 1 of 2 tenants, the limit by FIFA). Also, they need to build something on top of the Wyndham land so the mysterious backers can get their high residential zoning approval + property developments underway for that area (the main reasonings for the bid to being with), so why not settle on a cheaper option and just play most of your games at AAMI intead of building an entirely new stadium? Lastly, a couple of articles in the past few months (June-July) (such as one about the new designer) curiously didn't mention the 15k stadium whatsoever. 
I do hope I'm wrong though.
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chatty_chancellor - 31 Aug 2021 6:40 PM
So today marked the deadline day for when the stadium would begin construction (by WU themselves a few months back, declaring July-August would be when they'd start construction).
I'm beginning think the 15k stadium has been quietly scrapped, but instead they'll now pivot towards only having the concept masterplan (including the 5k seater stadium & other synthetic pitches, training facilities), and just play the majority of matches at AAMI, but still play some smaller matches & FFA Cup ties & pre-season matches & W-League matches at the 5k one).
My reasonings for this is that if (more like when) Dandenong Stadium gets the tick of approval and City eventually move in, WU will be allowed to move into AAMI (being 1 of 2 tenants, the limit by FIFA). Also, they need to build something on top of the Wyndham land so the mysterious backers can get their high residential zoning approval + property developments underway for that area (the main reasonings for the bid to being with), so why not settle on a cheaper option and just play most of your games at AAMI intead of building an entirely new stadium? Lastly, a couple of articles in the past few months (June-July) (such as one about the new designer) curiously didn't mention the 15k stadium whatsoever. 
I do hope I'm wrong though.

If that's their plan then they should be demoted from the A-League immediately. WU were conceived of as a team for western Melbourne, and AAMI is not in the west. City can move to Dandenong, Victory have AAMI and WU's spot goes to Canberra or (gasp) South Melbourne.

More likely though is that they're just trying to stall for as long as they can. Their stadium plan only really works if the state government builds a station next door anyway, which is in long-term planning documents but isn't happening any time soon.
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Hell of a way to pour millions of dollars down the toilet - a pro football club nobody wants. 
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Does any one else feel they escape scrutiny from the media on the lack of stadium progression?



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gul15 - 3 Sep 2021 12:48 PM
Does any one else feel they escape scrutiny from the media on the lack of stadium progression?



Why would the media report on it? Nobody gives a stuff about them.

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gul15 - 3 Sep 2021 12:48 PM
Does any one else feel they escape scrutiny from the media on the lack of stadium progression?



Hahahahaha no JUST the perfect amount of scrutiny ........ just ask that dildo on here that was bragging about driving a Lambo ,,,, he knows :)
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