Nobody give a damn where the world cup is. This is a world cup. Every countries want to be there. If U don't don't watch. 

Who would have thought that the guy who failed miserably last time he was in the same job, would fail again this time.

FA hires Aussie coaches to save money, well we have saved money for the last 3 years. Now is the time to replace GA. Who is available though? Do you wait for another national team to fail to qualify then nab their coach? 

Could we get the Saudi coach for the next qualification campaign? Very impressed with what he has done with their players (notwithstanding the incorrigible petulance). He has also won two African Cup of Nations. With separate teams. No other coach has achieved that, apparently.

We need someone now, so we have a better chance to qualify...

I wish people would stop saying this because it isn't correct. We signed Bert Van Marwijck over Biesla ffs

Ange was victimised and granted like GA your head is on the block when results go against you, as we know its first and foremost the coachs fault and all media go for the throat.
Wonderful Ange to many here especially now but I'll never forget him walking out of the job right after the record breaking longest quali run leaving us rudderless.
Mind you none of us really know the facts what occurred behind the scenes but he still walked out on the NT at its worst time.
His tactics and playing 3 at the back was shocking back then, he deserves all he got just as some do re Arnold now.

Pundits have every right to call out coachs and players, thats their job and most times we supporters get entertained by it.
Just as Foster did to Ange way way back then and be it Slater or whoever onwards.

sfc1987, Slater has a gig/seat on Fox's BackPage.

this is true, I heard similar elsewhere that rings true.
No matter how much we/people have against the Middle East in the big picture come WC 1st game koff your gonna watch no matter the countless issues at hand.

If this is true, why are we paying Graham Arnold a shitload of $$$ at all? We can just send a bunch of players to the game and tell them to do their job.
A good coach will be able to get the most from the players they have. Sure, there's an upper limit, but that upper limit is a lot higher than drawing to China.

Fair enough thanks.  I was under the impression he'd been left high and dry given he was disappointed that 10/Paramount didn't want him.  

And we should have signed him to a 5 year deal, if we did we would have gotten further at the asian cup and we would be on track to qualify for the WC. He's now got the UAE playing better than ever.

One of those was Zambia's sole continental trophy to date; obviously w/an inferior talent-pool to the region's powerhouses.

Since it's obv unrealistic we can attract anyone of world-class level at the moment, a foreign coach of Renard's tier seems the best bet going forward - the only stipulation other than WC qualification I'd brief them with, if I were James Johnson, would be blooding more youngsters/eligible dual-nationals abroad; the NT is in dire need of rejuvenation and fact is, we need as big a talent-pool as possible.

Looking at the current table standing UAE in 3rd place like us
1 W
3 D
2 L
6 points - 8 behind 2nd.
and definately will be in play offs more so than us at this stage, if thats better than ever.

Were on 11 - 1 behind Jap.
No matter about Arnold I'd sooner be in this position.

Interesting article:

https://www.espn.com.au/football/australia-aus/story/4523531/australias-world-cup-qualifying-troubles-were-as-predictable-as-they-were-inevitable?platform=amp

I agree with his comments re Irvine. I don't think Arnie is the worst by any means - Holger was definitely worse, for example - but by the same token I don't think he's a great problem solver. Compared to an outstanding manager like Guus, he's a bit of a plodder. Recently, I was astonished that Tilio was left out of the original Olyroos squad for the Olympics. How could Arnie have not seen his value to that squad? Arnie strikes me as a middle management type guy who, if given certain procedures to follow, can do that competently. 

I think Arnold is going to get what he deserves. Being the only manager to not qualify us for a World Cup in a century. I imagine we will qualify for every World Cup for the next 70 years once it switches to 48 teams.

My problem with Arnold was the nepotism he showed. If a manager believes in a player then that players form will likely improve. The player who the manager doesn't believe in form is likely to decrease. There is probably an argument for Sainsbury to currently be picked but there wasn't two years ago when he was still being picked. Nepotism has bad consequences in any organisation but is particularly disastrous for a National sporting team.  Arnold deserves to go down in history as the worst manager for a century.

This is a delusional thread. We were lucky to get Guus and he looked at what was available and only signed up because he thought he could do something with them. If you read his book, you will discern this. And Guus had the best generation of Socceroos ever at his disposal and they only just scraped in to qualify. Kewell, Viduka, Bresciano, Cahill, Schwarzer etc. No top coach of that quality will ever take Australia again unless we break the bank. Our players are shit at international level, and even shit in Asia. So we will now only get mid-tier Bert Van Marwicks at best or Australians, unless we break the bank. We need to be honest at just how shit our players are because this affects who wants to coach us. It’s sad and will be a good ten to twenty years back to 2006 levels, if we do the right things (and the right things will require a lot of money and planning and integration of the ethnics and old soccer). So this sack Arnie shit is delusional because you think we’ll get much better outcomes based on the coach alone when the biggest problem is the quality of the cattle.