farkin bitters still carrying on. Western United are going nowhere. I’m not really sure why the focus is on them anyway when MacArthur is doing far worse… and they have a stadium (well sorta). 

Your last quote is what's it all about. How can anyone be expected to pay money to watch players wasting time, faking injuries and cheating in the name of sport? Fans want to be entertained and not be frustrated on the terraces. Soccer/football has lost its soul and until there's a major overhaul it will continue to attract fewer spectators each season.

Indeed they are! Who were the other contenders that may have done better, I can't see any other potential bid doing any better? Maybe we have reached our limit with 10 top tier teams and need to look at a Div 2 with 10 teams?  I think its time to accept the norm of 5k average attendances, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. The league was new, exciting, hence the 10k average, the league is now almost 20 years old, and we gotta accept it for what it is, there is nothing wrong with 5k crowds if the clubs are financial sustainable. Same as big bash, huge crowds early on, now they also struggling to get 10k. However it is disappointing to see the big city clubs like Brisbane and East Sydney struggle to even get 7k.

Your last quote is what's it all about. How can anyone be expected to pay money to watch players wasting time, faking injuries and cheating in the name of sport? Fans want to be entertained and not be frustrated on the terraces. Soccer/football has lost its soul and until there's a major overhaul it will continue to attract fewer spectators each season.

I can guarantee that 5 average attendance will be meant no new TV deal = no professional football.

Your last quote is what's it all about. How can anyone be expected to pay money to watch players wasting time, faking injuries and cheating in the name of sport? Fans want to be entertained and not be frustrated on the terraces. Soccer/football has lost its soul and until there's a major overhaul it will continue to attract fewer spectators each season.

Maybe they should make the sokkah goals bigger it might go good for em.

Indeed they are! Who were the other contenders that may have done better, I can't see any other potential bid doing any better? Maybe we have reached our limit with 10 top tier teams and need to look at a Div 2 with 10 teams?  I think its time to accept the norm of 5k average attendances, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. The league was new, exciting, hence the 10k average, the league is now almost 20 years old, and we gotta accept it for what it is, there is nothing wrong with 5k crowds if the clubs are financial sustainable. Same as big bash, huge crowds early on, now they also struggling to get 10k. However it is disappointing to see the big city clubs like Brisbane and East Sydney struggle to even get 7k.

This is pretty much my point. There wouldn't be too bidders doing much better in the times we're in. the BBL crowd numbers hasn't started well either.   

Why were they attending in there droves 5-10 years ago?

K League average 5k. NBL and Netball average less than 5k and have TV deals.

This is pretty much my point. There wouldn't be too bidders doing much better in the times we're in. the BBL crowd numbers hasn't started well either.   

4k last night at city vs Perth 

4k last night at city vs Perth 

Honestly, I did not know there was a game on until it appeared on my Facebook wall last night. I thought we were supposed to see an improvement in promotion? There was a little bit in the leadup to the start of the season, but not a lot since.

Also, why is City v PG played on a Wednesday when the weekend if free? Is anyone able to explain this logic?

Honestly, I did not know there was a game on until it appeared on my Facebook wall last night. I thought we were supposed to see an improvement in promotion? There was a little bit in the leadup to the start of the season, but not a lot since.

Also, why is City v PG played on a Wednesday when the weekend if free? Is anyone able to explain this logic?

A ticketek employee told me last nights crowd was 1600. 

The clubs release the figure so can say what they like. It isn't coming from the venue.

A few years ago a staff member at Melbourne Storm told me that when they tally attendance they use the term attendance quite literally. So, they count every human that enters the venue. That means they include players, coaches, staff, security, cleaners, media personnel, admin people, bar staff, etc. Technically these people are in attendance therefore they are counted. I'm sure this is common practice across all sports. 

A few years ago a staff member at Melbourne Storm told me that when they tally attendance they use the term attendance quite literally. So, they count every human that enters the venue. That means they include players, coaches, staff, security, cleaners, media personnel, admin people, bar staff, etc. Technically these people are in attendance therefore they are counted. I'm sure this is common practice across all sports. 

The deal the A-League has now is based on what the buyer values its *potential* to become, not what it currently is.  Its the potential that hooks them in. 

This is no different to the deals struck with Fox.  In the end, it failed to achieve that potential.

I'd imagine the broadcast funders have set KPI's for the A-League.  If they are not met this time, who else is going to be dumb enough to pay $millions again?

WU v Brisbane 2,845 (actual figure definitely less)
Adelaide v Victory 8,145 (seemed more)
WSW v Macarthur 8,910 (seemed less)

6037 at Gosford tonight

Maybe we should get our own house in order before we worry about other sports. Talk about someone thinking they're throwing rocks on the next door neighbours roof, when in fact, they're throwing them on there own roof.