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That article does not say that nor does the Minister...but I think you know that.
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+xThat article does not say that nor does the Minister...but I think you know that. so he says end of January which is the same as February :doze:
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ultimately this is the only way to deal with this pandemic and anti-vaxxers
Door-to-door Covid jabs as Boris considers New Year restrictions TOMORROW but vows to keep schools open: SAGE warns new Omicron wave hospitalisations could be higher than last winter
- Ministers are planning to send teams armed with Covid vaccines to the homes of unvaccinated Britons
- Discussions between the Department of Health, NHS England and No 10 have looked at a nationwide drive
By ANNA MIKHAILOVA and BRENDAN CARLIN FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY PUBLISHED: 09:01 AEDT, 26 December 2021 | UPDATED: 20:38 AEDT, 26 December 2021 Door-to-door teams armed with Covid jabs will be sent to the homes of unvaccinated Britons in plans being considered by Ministers to reach the estimated five million people yet to be inoculated. Discussions between the Department of Health, NHS England and No 10 over the past week have looked at a nationwide drive to send vaccine teams to areas with low uptake rates as a crucial way to avoid lockdown and other restrictions. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10344567/Door-door-Covid-jab-teams-sent-homes-five-million-unvaccinated-Britons.html
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@sudneyfc RE you’re comment before about people who default to left v right blanket statements. I read a really interesting article years about it by psychologists and it goes back to child-like thinking of cowboys and indians and cops and robbers. It’s a problem with a lot of adults in the US who think that there is only good guys and bad guys, much like a under developed brain thinks in the most basic of black and white concepts.
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It’s why it’s so easy for them to sell unjust war after war to their public. They only see things in a basic interpretation. Just make the others the bad guys and boom!
In relation to this, big pharma can be bad guys but could still have something of great benefit to us all. So it just makes them the murky guys. Which is basically where any adult can understand here everything in life generally lays.
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*’where’ everything in life, not ‘here’.
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+x+x+xForget that fuckhead for a moment. This reintroduction of masks into NSW fucking up Christmas and New Years Eve is fucked. Fucking fucked beyond a fucking joke. 1 000 000 test in the last week. 7 deaths. 145 ICU cases. Fuck right off. Less than the flu mortality now. Absolute fucking bollocks. I feel sorry for any poor bastard in hospitality that has just had their world turned upside down. Ridiculous. /rant. its still early in the virus cycle the early days of Delta it was also thought to be less virulent and look how that turned out its better to be safe than sorry and we still have a number of anti-vaxxers continuing to spread COVID and fill up ICUs Delta is still spreading like a wildfire across the nation its important now more than ever that we listen to the experts and not rely on our feels remember how "I did my own research" turned out... Absolutely no way can I agree with any of this. No fucks given anymore given the low mortality. Time to get on with life. 100% In the UK atm but when I come back, unless a member of staff explicitly asks me (I have nothing but respect for retail workers) I'm not going to be arsed wearing the face tampon which does zero to "stop the spread". If some people want to keep clutching their blankets, good for them- but other people shouldn't have to continue doing so just to make hypochondriacs feel safer.
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The Most Popular Presidential Candidate Of All Time (TM) cant go to a sports stadium in the country he presides over. Figure that one out...
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+x+x+x+xForget that fuckhead for a moment. This reintroduction of masks into NSW fucking up Christmas and New Years Eve is fucked. Fucking fucked beyond a fucking joke. 1 000 000 test in the last week. 7 deaths. 145 ICU cases. Fuck right off. Less than the flu mortality now. Absolute fucking bollocks. I feel sorry for any poor bastard in hospitality that has just had their world turned upside down. Ridiculous. /rant. its still early in the virus cycle the early days of Delta it was also thought to be less virulent and look how that turned out its better to be safe than sorry and we still have a number of anti-vaxxers continuing to spread COVID and fill up ICUs Delta is still spreading like a wildfire across the nation its important now more than ever that we listen to the experts and not rely on our feels remember how "I did my own research" turned out... Absolutely no way can I agree with any of this. No fucks given anymore given the low mortality. Time to get on with life. 100% In the UK atm but when I come back, unless a member of staff explicitly asks me (I have nothing but respect for retail workers) I'm not going to be arsed wearing the face tampon which does zero to "stop the spread". If some people want to keep clutching their blankets, good for them- but other people shouldn't have to continue doing so just to make hypochondriacs feel safer. Surgeons need to stop wearing them too!
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+x+x+x+xForget that fuckhead for a moment. This reintroduction of masks into NSW fucking up Christmas and New Years Eve is fucked. Fucking fucked beyond a fucking joke. 1 000 000 test in the last week. 7 deaths. 145 ICU cases. Fuck right off. Less than the flu mortality now. Absolute fucking bollocks. I feel sorry for any poor bastard in hospitality that has just had their world turned upside down. Ridiculous. /rant. its still early in the virus cycle the early days of Delta it was also thought to be less virulent and look how that turned out its better to be safe than sorry and we still have a number of anti-vaxxers continuing to spread COVID and fill up ICUs Delta is still spreading like a wildfire across the nation its important now more than ever that we listen to the experts and not rely on our feels remember how "I did my own research" turned out... Absolutely no way can I agree with any of this. No fucks given anymore given the low mortality. Time to get on with life. 100% In the UK atm but when I come back, unless a member of staff explicitly asks me (I have nothing but respect for retail workers) I'm not going to be arsed wearing the face tampon which does zero to "stop the spread". If some people want to keep clutching their blankets, good for them- but other people shouldn't have to continue doing so just to make hypochondriacs feel safer. are you going to stop wearing your seatbelt too?
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+x+x+x+xForget that fuckhead for a moment. This reintroduction of masks into NSW fucking up Christmas and New Years Eve is fucked. Fucking fucked beyond a fucking joke. 1 000 000 test in the last week. 7 deaths. 145 ICU cases. Fuck right off. Less than the flu mortality now. Absolute fucking bollocks. I feel sorry for any poor bastard in hospitality that has just had their world turned upside down. Ridiculous. /rant. its still early in the virus cycle the early days of Delta it was also thought to be less virulent and look how that turned out its better to be safe than sorry and we still have a number of anti-vaxxers continuing to spread COVID and fill up ICUs Delta is still spreading like a wildfire across the nation its important now more than ever that we listen to the experts and not rely on our feels remember how "I did my own research" turned out... Absolutely no way can I agree with any of this. No fucks given anymore given the low mortality. Time to get on with life. the UK atm but when I come back, unless a member of staff explicitly asks me (I have nothing but respect for retail workers) I'm not going to be arsed wearing the face tampon which does zero to "stop the spread". If you actually had respect for them you'd just chuck the mask on so they don't have to come within proximity to you which may just be what is required for the virus to spread from them to you or vice versa. Myer is not the place for you to take a political stance.
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captain haddock did his own research now he's going to be drink driving
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+x+x+x+x+xForget that fuckhead for a moment. This reintroduction of masks into NSW fucking up Christmas and New Years Eve is fucked. Fucking fucked beyond a fucking joke. 1 000 000 test in the last week. 7 deaths. 145 ICU cases. Fuck right off. Less than the flu mortality now. Absolute fucking bollocks. I feel sorry for any poor bastard in hospitality that has just had their world turned upside down. Ridiculous. /rant. its still early in the virus cycle the early days of Delta it was also thought to be less virulent and look how that turned out its better to be safe than sorry and we still have a number of anti-vaxxers continuing to spread COVID and fill up ICUs Delta is still spreading like a wildfire across the nation its important now more than ever that we listen to the experts and not rely on our feels remember how "I did my own research" turned out... Absolutely no way can I agree with any of this. No fucks given anymore given the low mortality. Time to get on with life. 100% In the UK atm but when I come back, unless a member of staff explicitly asks me (I have nothing but respect for retail workers) I'm not going to be arsed wearing the face tampon which does zero to "stop the spread". If some people want to keep clutching their blankets, good for them- but other people shouldn't have to continue doing so just to make hypochondriacs feel safer. Surgeons need to stop wearing them too! You can really see a trend here: Masks = useless, make you sick and morally/ethically evil Lockdowns = Useless, make you sick and morally/ethically evil Vaccines = Useless, make you sick and morally/ethically evil I'm assuming that within 2 months, conservative media/pundits will be proclaiming the the new anti-viral drugs are, let me guess: Useless, make you sick and morally/ethically evil? I'll eat my hat if that isn't exactly what Alan Jones or Craig Kelly are going on about by March.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xForget that fuckhead for a moment. This reintroduction of masks into NSW fucking up Christmas and New Years Eve is fucked. Fucking fucked beyond a fucking joke. 1 000 000 test in the last week. 7 deaths. 145 ICU cases. Fuck right off. Less than the flu mortality now. Absolute fucking bollocks. I feel sorry for any poor bastard in hospitality that has just had their world turned upside down. Ridiculous. /rant. its still early in the virus cycle the early days of Delta it was also thought to be less virulent and look how that turned out its better to be safe than sorry and we still have a number of anti-vaxxers continuing to spread COVID and fill up ICUs Delta is still spreading like a wildfire across the nation its important now more than ever that we listen to the experts and not rely on our feels remember how "I did my own research" turned out... Absolutely no way can I agree with any of this. No fucks given anymore given the low mortality. Time to get on with life. 100% In the UK atm but when I come back, unless a member of staff explicitly asks me (I have nothing but respect for retail workers) I'm not going to be arsed wearing the face tampon which does zero to "stop the spread". If some people want to keep clutching their blankets, good for them- but other people shouldn't have to continue doing so just to make hypochondriacs feel safer. Surgeons need to stop wearing them too! You can really see a trend here: Masks = useless, make you sick and morally/ethically evil Lockdowns = Useless, make you sick and morally/ethically evil Vaccines = Useless, make you sick and morally/ethically evil I'm assuming that within 2 months, conservative media/pundits will be proclaiming the the new anti-viral drugs are, let me guess: Useless, make you sick and morally/ethically evil? I'll eat my hat if that isn't exactly what Alan Jones or Craig Kelly are going on about by March. the imaginary man in the sky botherers are exhibiting cult behaviour mothership due any day now
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+x+x+x+x+xForget that fuckhead for a moment. This reintroduction of masks into NSW fucking up Christmas and New Years Eve is fucked. Fucking fucked beyond a fucking joke. 1 000 000 test in the last week. 7 deaths. 145 ICU cases. Fuck right off. Less than the flu mortality now. Absolute fucking bollocks. I feel sorry for any poor bastard in hospitality that has just had their world turned upside down. Ridiculous. /rant. its still early in the virus cycle the early days of Delta it was also thought to be less virulent and look how that turned out its better to be safe than sorry and we still have a number of anti-vaxxers continuing to spread COVID and fill up ICUs Delta is still spreading like a wildfire across the nation its important now more than ever that we listen to the experts and not rely on our feels remember how "I did my own research" turned out... Absolutely no way can I agree with any of this. No fucks given anymore given the low mortality. Time to get on with life. the UK atm but when I come back, unless a member of staff explicitly asks me (I have nothing but respect for retail workers) I'm not going to be arsed wearing the face tampon which does zero to "stop the spread". If you actually had respect for them you'd just chuck the mask on so they don't have to come within proximity to you which may just be what is required for the virus to spread from them to you or vice versa. Myer is not the place for you to take a political stance. Mine's not political but practical. The death rate is now below the normal flu, ergo I think it's time to move on. Having said that I will still wear a mask when I got into a store and wherever they're mandatory. I am definitely not a zealot about this and may have been half pissed when I wrote that rant.. My only concern about not wearing masks is that ICU cases may become unmanageable due to more people getting sick which is a fair and valid point..
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+x+xThis is going to be an unpopular opinion, but one good thing I hope that comes out of all this is when it's over, is that they stop gutting the healthcare system and nationalise it again with proper funding. Fark off private hospitals and let the government run them again. Because in crisis like this, it's always the government that has to step up to the plate, while the corporations ask for hand outs...just look at the disaster unfolding in the US. The Police and Fire department are not privately run, and there is no reason why the Healthcare system should be either. I'd hope that isn't an unpopular opinion... My other hope is that it helps people to realise how much we rely on community and working together to survive. The prosperity of recent decades (I'd argue back to boomer times) has helped to produce some very selfish people who believe "they've done it all themselves". Almost 2 years later... I was never very optimistic about this coming to fruition despite the overwhelming evidence that things have gone better in this pandemic when the community worked together. As others have said, there are some that can't see that there are no black and white answers just different shades of grey, that things you do as an individual have an impact on the greater community you live in (and depend on) and that there are no shortage of media and political grifters that are ready to exploit this.
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+x+x+xThis is going to be an unpopular opinion, but one good thing I hope that comes out of all this is when it's over, is that they stop gutting the healthcare system and nationalise it again with proper funding. Fark off private hospitals and let the government run them again. Because in crisis like this, it's always the government that has to step up to the plate, while the corporations ask for hand outs...just look at the disaster unfolding in the US. The Police and Fire department are not privately run, and there is no reason why the Healthcare system should be either. I'd hope that isn't an unpopular opinion... My other hope is that it helps people to realise how much we rely on community and working together to survive. The prosperity of recent decades (I'd argue back to boomer times) has helped to produce some very selfish people who believe "they've done it all themselves". Almost 2 years later... I was never very optimistic about this coming to fruition despite the overwhelming evidence that things have gone better in this pandemic when the community worked together. As others have said, there are some that can't see that there are no black and white answers just different shades of grey, that things you do as an individual have an impact on the greater community you live in (and depend on) and that there are no shortage of media and political grifters that are ready to exploit this. exactly the right wing grifters trying to sell their snake oil horse de-wormer solutions the grifting fringe doctors trying to become right wing podcast 'celebrities' the QAnon types and sovereign citizens pushing their conspiracy theories so they can sell red caps and silly fWeEdUmB T-shirts
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+x+x+x+x+x+xForget that fuckhead for a moment. This reintroduction of masks into NSW fucking up Christmas and New Years Eve is fucked. Fucking fucked beyond a fucking joke. 1 000 000 test in the last week. 7 deaths. 145 ICU cases. Fuck right off. Less than the flu mortality now. Absolute fucking bollocks. I feel sorry for any poor bastard in hospitality that has just had their world turned upside down. Ridiculous. /rant. its still early in the virus cycle the early days of Delta it was also thought to be less virulent and look how that turned out its better to be safe than sorry and we still have a number of anti-vaxxers continuing to spread COVID and fill up ICUs Delta is still spreading like a wildfire across the nation its important now more than ever that we listen to the experts and not rely on our feels remember how "I did my own research" turned out... Absolutely no way can I agree with any of this. No fucks given anymore given the low mortality. Time to get on with life. the UK atm but when I come back, unless a member of staff explicitly asks me (I have nothing but respect for retail workers) I'm not going to be arsed wearing the face tampon which does zero to "stop the spread". If you actually had respect for them you'd just chuck the mask on so they don't have to come within proximity to you which may just be what is required for the virus to spread from them to you or vice versa. Myer is not the place for you to take a political stance. Mine's not political but practical. The death rate is now below the normal flu, ergo I think it's time to move on. Having said that I will still wear a mask when I got into a store and wherever they're mandatory. I am definitely not a zealot about this and may have been half pissed when I wrote that rant.. My only concern about not wearing masks is that ICU cases may become unmanageable due to more people getting sick which is a fair and valid point.. Our hospitalisation rate is at 520 now in NSW. Two days ago, we were at 388. I think we might feel some strain now (especially with 2000 medical staff in iso due to COVID). Last time, we peaked at 1200 (I thought it was 800-900 before).
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+x+x+x+xForget that fuckhead for a moment. This reintroduction of masks into NSW fucking up Christmas and New Years Eve is fucked. Fucking fucked beyond a fucking joke. 1 000 000 test in the last week. 7 deaths. 145 ICU cases. Fuck right off. Less than the flu mortality now. Absolute fucking bollocks. I feel sorry for any poor bastard in hospitality that has just had their world turned upside down. Ridiculous. /rant. its still early in the virus cycle the early days of Delta it was also thought to be less virulent and look how that turned out its better to be safe than sorry and we still have a number of anti-vaxxers continuing to spread COVID and fill up ICUs Delta is still spreading like a wildfire across the nation its important now more than ever that we listen to the experts and not rely on our feels remember how "I did my own research" turned out... Absolutely no way can I agree with any of this. No fucks given anymore given the low mortality. Time to get on with life. 100% In the UK atm but when I come back, unless a member of staff explicitly asks me (I have nothing but respect for retail workers) I'm not going to be arsed wearing the face tampon which does zero to "stop the spread". If some people want to keep clutching their blankets, good for them- but other people shouldn't have to continue doing so just to make hypochondriacs feel safer. Masks rules in NSW are pretty sensible at the moment - basically in indoor settings/public transport areas ( https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/stay-safe/rules/people-in-nsw#toc-masks-covid-19-safe-check-in-and-vaccination-evidence). I don't see that as being so onerous or unreasonable. In the UK, the rules are pretty much the same ( https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own).
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UK should be having according to professor pants down of sage 6000 deaths a day by now, no wonder Boris listens to the red team , In the last three week's 78 per cent of deaths are double jabbed 3 time as many positive tests as last Xmas but less hospitalisations
Experts eh
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+xUK should be having according to professor pants down of sage 6000 deaths a day by now, no wonder Boris listens to the red team , In the last three week's 78 per cent of deaths are double jabbed 3 time as many positive tests as last Xmas but less hospitalisations
Experts eh Obviously stats aren't your strong suit.
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Who would’ve thought?
So Marjorie Taylor green the republican trumper that rails against vaccines and big pharma…..wait for it…has stocks in Pfizer, AZ and Johnson and Johnson.
And the crazy Kennedy who has jumped on the anti vaccine wagon demands people be vaccinated at his own get togethers. But hey, he’s tripled donations in 12 months by appealing to this idiots so why would he not?
The hypocrisy to take money of all these idiots is breathtaking. They know everything they are pushing is complete bullshit.
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the crazy Kennedy laughing all the way to the bank with his conspiracy grift business model
the QAnon right wingers think he has the GoOd InFo when he's on the take
5 minutes reading fact checkers takes this guy apart
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+xUK should be having according to professor pants down of sage 6000 deaths a day by now, no wonder Boris listens to the red team , In the last three week's 78 per cent of deaths are double jabbed 3 time as many positive tests as last Xmas but less hospitalisations
Dirk, can you give URL citations for the above information?
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+x+xUK should be having according to professor pants down of sage 6000 deaths a day by now, no wonder Boris listens to the red team , In the last three week's 78 per cent of deaths are double jabbed 3 time as many positive tests as last Xmas but less hospitalisations
Dirk, can you give URL citations for the above information? Can you provide citations confirming christian Eriksen was vaccinated?
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Got a boxing day text reminder from hmg to get a booster jab, only six weeks from my last booster.
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+x+x+x+x+xForget that fuckhead for a moment. This reintroduction of masks into NSW fucking up Christmas and New Years Eve is fucked. Fucking fucked beyond a fucking joke. 1 000 000 test in the last week. 7 deaths. 145 ICU cases. Fuck right off. Less than the flu mortality now. Absolute fucking bollocks. I feel sorry for any poor bastard in hospitality that has just had their world turned upside down. Ridiculous. /rant. its still early in the virus cycle the early days of Delta it was also thought to be less virulent and look how that turned out its better to be safe than sorry and we still have a number of anti-vaxxers continuing to spread COVID and fill up ICUs Delta is still spreading like a wildfire across the nation its important now more than ever that we listen to the experts and not rely on our feels remember how "I did my own research" turned out... Absolutely no way can I agree with any of this. No fucks given anymore given the low mortality. Time to get on with life. 100% In the UK atm but when I come back, unless a member of staff explicitly asks me (I have nothing but respect for retail workers) I'm not going to be arsed wearing the face tampon which does zero to "stop the spread". If some people want to keep clutching their blankets, good for them- but other people shouldn't have to continue doing so just to make hypochondriacs feel safer. Masks rules in NSW are pretty sensible at the moment - basically in indoor settings/public transport areas ( https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/stay-safe/rules/people-in-nsw#toc-masks-covid-19-safe-check-in-and-vaccination-evidence). I don't see that as being so onerous or unreasonable. In the UK, the rules are pretty much the same ( https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own). So you would support a year of working with a face mask because it isnt onerous or unreasonable? What about school? There is significant data that working 8 hours with a mask forces people to work from home but working from home for another year isnt a bad thing? And what has face masks for some of the time accomplished? 11k cases in NSW today and nearly 4k in Victoria See it wasnt face masks on buses that kept the virus at bay. It was hotel quarantine and compliance on social distancing. Dont forget also, 70%-80% of cases were household to household Australia fucked up. They were operating under the assumption that vaccinated people were 20 times less likely to spread the virus, and a mere 3 weeks into opening up they have slammed on the brakes and crying that hospital systems cant cope with the projected Excel data So now what? We go back to a hybrid approach and dont call it a lock down. And wait patiently for the virus to crawl through our population of 25 million We have a non compliant 90%-95% vaccinated population that were promised if they got 2 jabs they can have their life back. I even saw a youtube ad on it a minute ago. The hysteria and tokenistic restrictions have to stop. Opening up was our plan and there is nothing that can be done to go back And the irony of your post isnt lost on me. A thread full of people screaming about how scientifically backed and tested vaccinations are the only way forward, and then a literal link to a site on how average Joe can "make" their own face mask. They are polar opposite approaches and anybody who thinks constant antagonising of the population is the way forward is kidding themselves
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+x+x+x+x+xForget that fuckhead for a moment. This reintroduction of masks into NSW fucking up Christmas and New Years Eve is fucked. Fucking fucked beyond a fucking joke. 1 000 000 test in the last week. 7 deaths. 145 ICU cases. Fuck right off. Less than the flu mortality now. Absolute fucking bollocks. I feel sorry for any poor bastard in hospitality that has just had their world turned upside down. Ridiculous. /rant. its still early in the virus cycle the early days of Delta it was also thought to be less virulent and look how that turned out its better to be safe than sorry and we still have a number of anti-vaxxers continuing to spread COVID and fill up ICUs Delta is still spreading like a wildfire across the nation its important now more than ever that we listen to the experts and not rely on our feels remember how "I did my own research" turned out... Absolutely no way can I agree with any of this. No fucks given anymore given the low mortality. Time to get on with life. 100% In the UK atm but when I come back, unless a member of staff explicitly asks me (I have nothing but respect for retail workers) I'm not going to be arsed wearing the face tampon which does zero to "stop the spread". If some people want to keep clutching their blankets, good for them- but other people shouldn't have to continue doing so just to make hypochondriacs feel safer. Masks rules in NSW are pretty sensible at the moment - basically in indoor settings/public transport areas ( https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/stay-safe/rules/people-in-nsw#toc-masks-covid-19-safe-check-in-and-vaccination-evidence). I don't see that as being so onerous or unreasonable. In the UK, the rules are pretty much the same ( https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own). the Lieberals made a big mistake by allowing masks off for 2 weeks and now we have an uncontrollable outbreak
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+x+x+x+x+x+xForget that fuckhead for a moment. This reintroduction of masks into NSW fucking up Christmas and New Years Eve is fucked. Fucking fucked beyond a fucking joke. 1 000 000 test in the last week. 7 deaths. 145 ICU cases. Fuck right off. Less than the flu mortality now. Absolute fucking bollocks. I feel sorry for any poor bastard in hospitality that has just had their world turned upside down. Ridiculous. /rant. its still early in the virus cycle the early days of Delta it was also thought to be less virulent and look how that turned out its better to be safe than sorry and we still have a number of anti-vaxxers continuing to spread COVID and fill up ICUs Delta is still spreading like a wildfire across the nation its important now more than ever that we listen to the experts and not rely on our feels remember how "I did my own research" turned out... Absolutely no way can I agree with any of this. No fucks given anymore given the low mortality. Time to get on with life. 100% In the UK atm but when I come back, unless a member of staff explicitly asks me (I have nothing but respect for retail workers) I'm not going to be arsed wearing the face tampon which does zero to "stop the spread". If some people want to keep clutching their blankets, good for them- but other people shouldn't have to continue doing so just to make hypochondriacs feel safer. Masks rules in NSW are pretty sensible at the moment - basically in indoor settings/public transport areas ( https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/stay-safe/rules/people-in-nsw#toc-masks-covid-19-safe-check-in-and-vaccination-evidence). I don't see that as being so onerous or unreasonable. In the UK, the rules are pretty much the same ( https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own). So you would support a year of working with a face mask because it isnt onerous or unreasonable? What about school? There is significant data that working 8 hours with a mask forces people to work from home but working from home for another year isnt a bad thing? And what has face masks for some of the time accomplished? 11k cases in NSW today and nearly 4k in Victoria See it wasnt face masks on buses that kept the virus at bay. It was hotel quarantine and compliance on social distancing. Dont forget also, 70%-80% of cases were household to household Australia fucked up. They were operating under the assumption that vaccinated people were 20 times less likely to spread the virus, and a mere 3 weeks into opening up they have slammed on the brakes and crying that hospital systems cant cope with the projected Excel data So now what? We go back to a hybrid approach and dont call it a lock down. And wait patiently for the virus to crawl through our population of 25 million We have a non compliant 90%-95% vaccinated population that were promised if they got 2 jabs they can have their life back. I even saw a youtube ad on it a minute ago. The hysteria and tokenistic restrictions have to stop. Opening up was our plan and there is nothing that can be done to go back And the irony of your post isnt lost on me. A thread full of people screaming about how scientifically backed and tested vaccinations are the only way forward, and then a literal link to a site on how average Joe can "make" their own face mask. They are polar opposite approaches and anybody who thinks constant antagonising of the population is the way forward is kidding themselves Oh boy, this again. Stop moving the goal posts. The current conditions are masks in highly populated areas (e.g. public transport and shopping). You're not going to be wearing a mask when outdoors or eating at a restaurant (unless you're a hospitality worker). Kids have also been wearing masks all last term, so there is also that... I agree that we are messing it up given the hospitalisation numbers in NSW are over 600 already. It's probably too late to reverse course now. Not sure what can be done except hop that the Government supports the hospital system and hope that you don't need to go to hospital yourself.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xForget that fuckhead for a moment. This reintroduction of masks into NSW fucking up Christmas and New Years Eve is fucked. Fucking fucked beyond a fucking joke. 1 000 000 test in the last week. 7 deaths. 145 ICU cases. Fuck right off. Less than the flu mortality now. Absolute fucking bollocks. I feel sorry for any poor bastard in hospitality that has just had their world turned upside down. Ridiculous. /rant. its still early in the virus cycle the early days of Delta it was also thought to be less virulent and look how that turned out its better to be safe than sorry and we still have a number of anti-vaxxers continuing to spread COVID and fill up ICUs Delta is still spreading like a wildfire across the nation its important now more than ever that we listen to the experts and not rely on our feels remember how "I did my own research" turned out... Absolutely no way can I agree with any of this. No fucks given anymore given the low mortality. Time to get on with life. 100% In the UK atm but when I come back, unless a member of staff explicitly asks me (I have nothing but respect for retail workers) I'm not going to be arsed wearing the face tampon which does zero to "stop the spread". If some people want to keep clutching their blankets, good for them- but other people shouldn't have to continue doing so just to make hypochondriacs feel safer. Masks rules in NSW are pretty sensible at the moment - basically in indoor settings/public transport areas ( https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/stay-safe/rules/people-in-nsw#toc-masks-covid-19-safe-check-in-and-vaccination-evidence). I don't see that as being so onerous or unreasonable. In the UK, the rules are pretty much the same ( https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own). the Lieberals made a big mistake by allowing masks off for 2 weeks and now we have an uncontrollable outbreak It probably wasn't just masks but a combination of relaxing conditions
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when looking for info , always best to go to the horses mouth and not its arse bmj.com british medical journal https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n3131Covid-19: Government ignores scientists’ advice to tighten restrictions to combat omicronBMJ 2021; 375 doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.n3131 (Published 21 December 2021)Cite this as: BMJ 2021;375:n3131 But experts accused the government of dithering and ignoring the latest modelling 1 provided to its Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage), which show that without additional restrictions now, hospital admissions across England could peak at between 3000 and 10 000 a day, while deaths could reach between 600 and 6000 a day. professor pantsdown pearl of widsom to the 92 memebrs of sage https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1042204/S1439_SPI-M-O_Consensus_Statement.pdfsee table 1
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