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dman2018 - 12 Jan 2022 1:11 PM
Loving how quickly the PV community has lurched to conspiracies in a bid to eject Novak...
Fake tests, fake results, fake doctors, fake paperwork, released on a technicality, fake leaked footage... 
Remember comrades... Novak is the Devil... And Pfizer and Pollies care about Grandma...

In fairness......
Would you trust Novak after his antics over the last few years or would you trust the border control people?

Novak should stick to tennis coz lying is obviously not his forte.....
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Marki - 12 Jan 2022 2:52 PM
dman2018 - 12 Jan 2022 1:11 PM

In fairness......
Would you trust Novak after his antics over the last few years or would you trust the border control people?

Novak should stick to tennis coz lying is obviously not his forte.....

You mean his antics living with the virus???... The thing for which you've been screaming the past month???...
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ODF - 12 Jan 2022 8:19 AM
hd, you say that you trust the advice of the highly trained and knowledgable experts and the professionals. While that in essence seems sound advice you also have to look at it another way. In my business employees aren't allowed to indiscriminately talk to the media regarding company affairs. The experts and professionals are also employees and as such are only allowed to release the information that their employer wants the public to know. So in reality how much of the real truth is being leaked to the public. Pfizer and Moderna and the rest aren't going to release their secret formula just like Coca Cola or KFC keep theirs. We know that the Sars Cov2 virus (like it's predecessors) did not attack humans in its natural form and was genetically interfered with to do so and it "escaped" in Wuhan. A genetically engineered virus requires a genetically engineered vaccine and here we are. The thing is, we don't know yet whether the cure is just as fatal as the disease, and that is information that is never going to be released.

ODF the data from clinical trials is published and the 90% or more of the population vaxed we know the short term.

Long term both the virus and the vax are unknowns, but I have had plenty of vax of all types.

Been in hospital had medication etc and lived to tell the tale.

Big Parma are just as bad or worse than most other big businesses. But the doctors working in our hospitals are well trained, and are trying to do the right thing.

If poeple don't want the vax, then it is your immune system against the virus, that is a bit of a lottery especially if you are over 60.

We will not have lockdowns for much longer becuase there is no point.

Masks, social distancing and hygiene are here to stay.

Covid check ins and contact tracing probably going. Hotel quarantine probably going.

Vax passports and travel restrictions are here to stay.

If you don't get a jab, you might be limited to holidays in Australia, or if you catch covid overseas, travel insurance might not cover it.

If you don't get a jab, the mask is more vital, especially in crowded situations with lots of strangers.


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dman2018 - 12 Jan 2022 3:10 PM
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You mean his antics living with the virus???... The thing for which you've been screaming the past month???...

He is guilty of being a tennis player, it is true playing AFL is a greater crime. ... still throw the book at him.
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dman2018 - 12 Jan 2022 3:10 PM
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You mean his antics living with the virus???... The thing for which you've been screaming the past month???...

Lol thats true. My bipolar kicked in...

Im all for living with the virus, but im equally for doing it legally.

Novax doesnt even believe in the virus, has publicly made a mockery of it and then has used a loophole in a system that has tried to protect the AUS public. 

Lets face it, if he wasnt so vocal about his anti-vax stance, this wouldnt have been played out in the public arena or caused as much stir.
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hounddog - 12 Jan 2022 3:32 PM
ODF - 12 Jan 2022 8:19 AM

ODF the data from clinical trials is published and the 90% or more of the population vaxed we know the short term.

Long term both the virus and the vax are unknowns, but I have had plenty of vax of all types.

Been in hospital had medication etc and lived to tell the tale.

Big Parma are just as bad or worse than most other big businesses. But the doctors working in our hospitals are well trained, and are trying to do the right thing.

If poeple don't want the vax, then it is your immune system against the virus, that is a bit of a lottery especially if you are over 60.

We will not have lockdowns for much longer becuase there is no point.

Masks, social distancing and hygiene are here to stay.

Covid check ins and contact tracing probably going. Hotel quarantine probably going.

Vax passports and travel restrictions are here to stay.

If you don't get a jab, you might be limited to holidays in Australia, or if you catch covid overseas, travel insurance might not cover it.

If you don't get a jab, the mask is more vital, especially in crowded situations with lots of strangers.


Surely once the vast population catches the virus and overcomes it, it will be up to the individual to decide how they deal with it in future?!?!

If we are still required to wear masks and shit, we arent living with the virus. We are kidding ourselves.

Let it rip god dammit
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hounddog - 12 Jan 2022 3:32 PM
ODF - 12 Jan 2022 8:19 AM

ODF the data from clinical trials is published and the 90% or more of the population vaxed we know the short term.

Long term both the virus and the vax are unknowns, but I have had plenty of vax of all types.

Been in hospital had medication etc and lived to tell the tale.

Big Parma are just as bad or worse than most other big businesses. But the doctors working in our hospitals are well trained, and are trying to do the right thing.

If poeple don't want the vax, then it is your immune system against the virus, that is a bit of a lottery especially if you are over 60.

We will not have lockdowns for much longer becuase there is no point.

Masks, social distancing and hygiene are here to stay.

Covid check ins and contact tracing probably going. Hotel quarantine probably going.

Vax passports and travel restrictions are here to stay.

If you don't get a jab, you might be limited to holidays in Australia, or if you catch covid overseas, travel insurance might not cover it.

If you don't get a jab, the mask is more vital, especially in crowded situations with lots of strangers.


Yep, masks and vaxx passports are working a treat in stopping the spread...


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Marki - 12 Jan 2022 5:05 PM
dman2018 - 12 Jan 2022 3:10 PM

Lol thats true. My bipolar kicked in...

Im all for living with the virus, but im equally for doing it legally.

Novax doesnt even believe in the virus, has publicly made a mockery of it and then has used a loophole in a system that has tried to protect the AUS public. 

Lets face it, if he wasnt so vocal about his anti-vax stance, this wouldnt have been played out in the public arena or caused as much stir.

Djokovic had a fantastic opportunity to really ram home his beliefs that vaccines are not needed in the fight against Covid but instead he lied and is now back tracking on his visa responses and putting blame on french journalists and his agent for falsifying his travel documents (by accident of course).

I think hes in trouble TBH.....
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Marki - 12 Jan 2022 5:10 PM
hounddog - 12 Jan 2022 3:32 PM

Surely once the vast population catches the virus and overcomes it, it will be up to the individual to decide how they deal with it in future?!?!

If we are still required to wear masks and shit, we arent living with the virus. We are kidding ourselves.

Let it rip god dammit

That is letting it rip.

Orthopedic surgeons and Mercedes dealer's are complaining about Dman being banned from the dance floor. 😁
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Marki - 12 Jan 2022 5:05 PM
dman2018 - 12 Jan 2022 3:10 PM

Lol thats true. My bipolar kicked in...

Im all for living with the virus, but im equally for doing it legally.

Novax doesnt even believe in the virus, has publicly made a mockery of it and then has used a loophole in a system that has tried to protect the AUS public. 

Lets face it, if he wasnt so vocal about his anti-vax stance, this wouldnt have been played out in the public arena or caused as much stir.

It's his profile that has caused it to be played out in the public arena. The same level of government that granted the visa then sought to take it away. It should not have been granted in the first place if his exemption was invalid. All this stuff that is being brought up now is after the event.
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Marki - 12 Jan 2022 5:39 PM
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Djokovic had a fantastic opportunity to really ram home his beliefs that vaccines are not needed in the fight against Covid but instead he lied and is now back tracking on his visa responses and putting blame on french journalists and his agent for falsifying his travel documents (by accident of course).

I think hes in trouble TBH.....

Your Mock is highly tuned...
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Mooloolabadog - 12 Jan 2022 10:11 PM
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It's his profile that has caused it to be played out in the public arena. The same level of government that granted the visa then sought to take it away. It should not have been granted in the first place if his exemption was invalid. All this stuff that is being brought up now is after the event.

From Sydney it looks like Dictator Dan and Vic Health are escaping relatively unharmed despite all their bravado re locking the filthy unvaxxed grandma killer out...
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dman2018 - 12 Jan 2022 10:48 PM
Mooloolabadog - 12 Jan 2022 10:11 PM

From Sydney it looks like Dictator Dan and Vic Health are escaping relatively unharmed despite all their bravado re locking the filthy unvaxxed grandma killer out...

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From Sydney it looks like Dictator Dan and Vic Health are escaping relatively unharmed despite all their bravado re locking the filthy unvaxxed grandma killer out...

Yes, looks that way. They can only  make  recommendations. They are not the decision makers. It was interesting to see scomo blame Victoria, then a couple of days later brag about having control of the borders, then go quiet when it blew up.
A bit like when the Queensland election was coming up. He and Freckleton were very critical of Queensland's border stance. Just before the election Freckleton reversed her stance and when scomo came up to support her he didn't  mention the borders


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Logic, critical thinking skill and higher education could really help the Covid debate. 
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When does the footy start??
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Marki - 12 Jan 2022 5:10 PM
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Surely once the vast population catches the virus and overcomes it, it will be up to the individual to decide how they deal with it in future?!?!

If we are still required to wear masks and shit, we arent living with the virus. We are kidding ourselves.

Let it rip god dammit

The NRL aren't letting it rip. Is that fair on the players?
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Micko - 13 Jan 2022 1:52 PM
When does the footy start??

First trial is 21st Feb.

Can't wait to see Burton and the Fox in action.
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Marki - 12 Jan 2022 5:39 PM
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Djokovic had a fantastic opportunity to really ram home his beliefs that vaccines are not needed in the fight against Covid but instead he lied and is now back tracking on his visa responses and putting blame on french journalists and his agent for falsifying his travel documents (by accident of course).

I think hes in trouble TBH.....

What exactly is his level of medical experise?

I would pay the same level of attention to his beliefs as I do to his tennis.
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First trial is 21st Feb.

Can't wait to see Burton and the Fox in action.

Fox is going to be entertaining and is worth at least a try a game. Burton could be anything. Avo might be great as well with the pressure off him and placed on Burto. 

I’m really looking forward to watching Thommo and TPJ steam roll the middle. Finally a strong forward pack and some speed. Could be a very good year. 

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Micko - 13 Jan 2022 1:52 PM
Logic, critical thinking skill and higher education could really help the Covid debate. 

On both sides of the ball...
Interestingly I read something a few weeks back that showed vaxx hesitancy in the IS was highest amongst early school leavers and PHDs...
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Micko - 13 Jan 2022 3:41 PM
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Fox is going to be entertaining and is worth at least a try a game. Burton could be anything. Avo might be great as well with the pressure off him and placed on Burto. 

I’m really looking forward to watching Thommo and TPJ steam roll the middle. Finally a strong forward pack and some speed. Could be a very good year. 

If Baz can Coach we are in for an enjoyable year...
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I also think that with Thompson and TPJ looking after the middle, Hetherington will have enough time to rethink any brainfarts he would have actioned and actually be a dangerous player. Also the pressure off Jacko may allow us to see an improvement.
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dman2018 - 13 Jan 2022 4:17 PM
Micko - 13 Jan 2022 1:52 PM

On both sides of the ball...
Interestingly I read something a few weeks back that showed vaxx hesitancy in the IS was highest amongst early school leavers and PHDs...

A quote from one of my favorite TV shows:-

"I find that hard to believe"...

Would you believe......
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dman2018 - 13 Jan 2022 4:18 PM
Micko - 13 Jan 2022 3:41 PM

If Baz can Coach we are in for an enjoyable year...

Yes, a mile of talent, a couple of weak spots, his test will be moulding them into a team
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Looking at what they can do with "deep fake" videos, we really need to consider the source for anything we see or read..

At a minimum it needs to be from a mainstream media source or authenticated in someway.

There is lots of stuff circulating on social media that is total BS.

People would be surprised how active agents of foreign governments are on social media, what their agenda is, and how skillfully it is executed. This info is from a post by moderators/managers of the platform.

Not here of course, but Putin himself occasionally posts...

Lots of aspects of the internet turned out far worse than we expected.
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Mooloolabadog - 13 Jan 2022 4:42 PM
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Yes, a mile of talent, a couple of weak spots, his test will be moulding them into a team

I'm only worried about the defence.

I can't remember a team coached by Baz defending well 3 weeks in a row.

If we are in the game in the last 15, I recon we have the attacking fire power to win often enough.

If we are hanging on to a slim lead Jacko and Tommo will provide the desire.

It is falling behind by more than 12 at any stage that worries me most, not being able to right a sinking ship.
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A quote from one of my favorite TV shows:-

"I find that hard to believe"...

Would you believe......

Obviously...

It doesn't suit the PV narrative that only people of dim wit refuse to comply... and only intelligent people wouldn't question any aspect of past two years... Any contrary opinion or data is invalid ..

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hounddog - 13 Jan 2022 4:50 PM
Looking at what they can do with "deep fake" videos, we really need to consider the source for anything we see or read..

At a minimum it needs to be from a mainstream media source or authenticated in someway.

There is lots of stuff circulating on social media that is total BS.

People would be surprised how active agents of foreign governments are on social media, what their agenda is, and how skillfully it is executed. This info is from a post by moderators/managers of the platform.

Not here of course, but Putin himself occasionally posts...

Lots of aspects of the internet turned out far worse than we expected.

Yep... Cool... MSM, fact checkers, and Blue tickers never lie... 

Facebook, insta etc are MSM in 2022...

Do you mean traditional media??? That's good good, cos the terrorcrap, ABC, and CH9 and woman's Day never lie....

Do U remember some of the fake bullshit MSM pulled during the war on terror???... 

I'm on the side of question everything... 
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dman2018 - 13 Jan 2022 5:06 PM
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Yep... Cool... MSM, fact checkers, and Blue tickers never lie... 

Facebook, insta etc are MSM in 2022...

Do you mean traditional media??? That's good good, cos the terrorcrap, ABC, and CH9 and woman's Day never lie....

Do U remember some of the fake bullshit MSM pulled during the war on terror???... 

I'm on the side of question everything... 

Question everything is fine.

If we go back to it, the pollies did most of the lying in the war on terror. Some media outlets are guilty of flag waving and often they are with wars.

But I am sure some journos questioned and in the end MSM reported the fake bullshit.

If a source is a social media post or a blog post by a mentally deranged nutter, we know there has been no fact checking. 

And professional government agent trolls are out there on social media often arguing both sides of an issue, becuase their aim is to spread division and mistrust and undermine faith in truth, knowledge and data.

Whatever you think of the ABC, I doubt that is their aim.


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hounddog - 13 Jan 2022 4:50 PM
Looking at what they can do with "deep fake" videos, we really need to consider the source for anything we see or read..

At a minimum it needs to be from a mainstream media source or authenticated in someway.

There is lots of stuff circulating on social media that is total BS.

People would be surprised how active agents of foreign governments are on social media, what their agenda is, and how skillfully it is executed. This info is from a post by moderators/managers of the platform.

Not here of course, but Putin himself occasionally posts...

Lots of aspects of the internet turned out far worse than we expected.

I suspect all governments including ours are active in social media.
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