Our club will be the media favourite again soon. It’s all opinions and bullshit though. 

The likes of those hack grub germoulists Kent, Roth, and that bald car basher will never give us a break...

So what are you against mate? Honestly. Just tell everybody so we can stop circling around the bullshit. And start debating the evidence. 

There is a great podcast. ‘The end of the world’ by Josh Clark. Listened to it before the pandemic. Listen to it now please. It really hit the nail right on the head with what was coming and what is potentially worse. 

Its pretty clear what I'm against...

That aside, I'm simply posing a question... And no one will address it... So I'll ask again... 

Is there a point with this disease that kills a tiny percentage of people who catch it and  the current C19 vaxx response (3 in 4 months for some, and perhaps 4 in less than 12 with the Omikron specific) that PVs start to think 'this seems a little over the top' or  'we've been sold a pup'... 

An an example of an answer might be -  "No",  "I'll do what the politicians tell me to do, they care about grandma". "I trust the health experts advice, you can't ask questions about science or mediine unless you have a PHD", "it does seem a bit much, but what ya gunna do", "why would I question it, this is a new variant and if it takes a jab for all new variants so be it", " yeah, the flu jab is every 12 months, this is the exactly the  same and a reasonable comparison you conspiracy nutter"...

Bwahahahaha!

I’ll just continue to take the best steps I can to protect myself from Covid. I’ve sorta accepted I’m gonna get it eventually, but I want to give myself the best chance to get through it with as little effect as possible when I do.

And right now, most if not all CREDIBLE research points to keeping your vacc’s up as your best chance of doing that. And if that means a jab every year or six months or for a new strain, then so be it.

You demand answers that we don’t know yet and when nobody can give it to you fill in the gaps with conspiracies.

My sister gets terrible hay fever and has to go high grade anti histamines or whatever they’re called when she gets it. And it comes back she has to do it again. She doesn’t go wondering why one shot of it should cure her for life and then have theories about how someone’s trying to milk her for money because it doesn’t.

You get a headache does one Panadol cure you for life?

Until and if they come up with a more all encompassing Covid vac that may or may not be just an annual jab, this is the best we got at present.

You ask me why I wonder why I have to have jabs and boosters at present, I’m f***in’ astounded that you do.

And I’ll add, I don’t care wether you get your jabs or not, you can take your chances. Why do you care that I choose to give myself a better chance?

BTW, have you had your jab(s), a booster? Or do you intend to?

I hope your not crying conspiracies without putting you health where your mouth is.

And in my latest episode of “I told you so”, remember I said about 3-4 weeks ago that when cases went from, what was it?… less than a 100 anyway to 2000+ a day someone’s f***ed up. And that on current trajectory that’d be 100k within 8 weeks and that sick days would start effecting the economy that all the anti-Covid measures wacko’s were primarily concerned with.

Well I was half wrong, didn’t take 8 weeks, it took 4. There’s supply chain issues everywhere at present due to lost sick days. Bunnings, f***ing Bunnings of all places has reduced hours nationally due to staff shortages and some stores are closed altogether.

Told you so.

Btw, despite what may be the appearance that Covid is everywhere, I read the other day that in total about 2m Aussies have had it out of a population of 26m odd.

So considering getting it once is no guarantee of not getting it twice, or three or a dozen times and it’s forever mutating. Get it through your f***in’ heads there will be no herd immunity.

EVER.

You can let it run wild, deliberately try to infect, and still the numbers that will have it will always be too low. And they’ll just get it again anyway.

2.52M... 3650 odd deaths...  0.14%....

You're right, it's never going away... And I am terrified!!!... I think lockdowns should be back in place, masks sewn directly to our faces, unvaccinated people sent to a colony, and rubber sheets made mandatory...

You might think you’re being sarcastic and cynical there, but it’s also about the most direct suggestion you’ve ever made on the subject.

Even if you don’t mean it, at least it is one.

Your fortune telling capabilities are only exceeded by Gladys and Gill Bates... ;)

So is the problem the isolation rules and close contact rules???... The severity of the disease???... The people making the rules???... People rorting RATs and using sick days???... 

We have close contacts that can't work at Bunnings with no symptoms and no positive test... But nurses who are positive with no symptoms can work...

So I reckon asking a couple of questions is ok...

The problem is a global pandemic in the jet age. That’s why there’s sick days first and absolutely 99.9% foremost. There’s always gonna be people taking sickies for the hell of it any day of the year. But do you really think that’s the issue?

You look straight past the f***in’ giant forest right in front of your face to question why that tree’s there.

2022 -

I think Dman self-medicates....

2022 - roll baby roll.

Tell you friends to get a job at Bunnings before trying to show up for work,

I’ve worked at Bunnings, casually, on and off for the past decade plus. Basically since I retired from full time.

Just wanted something so I didn’t have to dip into assets originally, but Bunnings is like a bikie gang - harder to get out of than it is to get in. They just keep finding you gigs, even if you don’t really want them.

Mind you, I’m gonna work my way around Aus in a few years time and Bunnings will organise it for me. Job anywhere in Aus if I want it…. Oh and for life too. No sunset at Bunnings as long as you can stand up and don’t dribble they’ll have you.

Only ever heard of one bloke forcibly retired by Bunnings, and that was after he started turning up to work in his pyjamas.

First rule of serving customers at Bunnings - read the instructions back to them. That’s all it takes 99% of the time.

Well it looks like the covid discussion is alive and kicking.
I stand with dman on this one. I am unvaxxed and at this point no one can give me a convincing reason to change my mind.
Do any of you know of anyone affected by vaccine injury. Well I do, work collegue late 50's dead within 24 hours of his first dose. A good friend of my neice, late 30's fit as a fiddle dead within 24 hours first shot. I understand that there have in the past been deaths and injuries due to vaccines but the figures with this particular injection is horrific and yet it is still being mandated. Something is very wrong but those in charge are not addressing the problem and that in itself is bordering on gross negligence.
Another thing during the recent break my grand daughter who lives with me attended a nightclub New Years Eve, there was a covid outbreak at the venue and my g.d. tested positive. Her sister who was staying with us caught the covid from her and also tested positive. Now both are fully vaxxed and yet after four weeks of extremely close contact I have not shown any symptom and I have since tested negative.

Well up until 9 Jan, the Therapeutic Goods Administration who oversees these things reports that out of 44.1m doses of vaccine, 11 deaths can be linked to them - and you know two of them.

Did they get thrombosis or Gillian-Barre Syndrome (which would be one of or both of the only two people who developed it) or was one of them the only one to have immune thrombocytopenia?

And those “horrific” figures…

Apart from the 11 deaths out of 44.1 milliiiiiion. There’s 2.3 per 1000 doses reported of illnesss or injury. Included in those numbers are injection site reactions (sore arms), headaches, muscle pain and fever and chills - horrific.

Of the more serious effects such as can cause death as listed above, figures are provided per vacc type and effect and so are too numerous for me to break down here (but you can find it on The Dept of Health site) but we’re talking numbers like 1-2 per 100k, 2-3 per 100k, 12 per 100k, 17 per 100k - and that’s per 100k people not doses.

And they recovered.

Glad to hear you've managed to avoid it ODF.
It appears you are like my wife and son, who managed to not catch it from myself and daughter.

I was never really FOR the vaccine, and was hoping to avoid getting until this year (mainly because i felt it needed more time to evaluate its effectiveness) but i got it anyway in Sep just so life can move on as it seemed apparent only lockdowns were an effective means to combat it.

Having caught covid and compared to my bro in law who had it same time as me, i dont really regret it. Im not sure what strain i had or what he had, but i ended up with similar symptoms of a bad flu (1-2 days shaking fever, headaches, joint aches and loss of concentration followed by that annoying short cough, scratchy throat and loss of taste). My bro in law however ended up in hospital and couldnt get out of bed for 4-5 days.

As i have low white blood cell count, i was in 2 minds whether the vaccine would affect me badly or help me. In the end, i put my faith in it and believe it may have helped with severity but did SFA in protecting me from catching covid.

My biggest gripe right now is the push for children to get it, NOT because it protects them, but because we place a higher value on the life of a 70+ person rather than a 5-11 year old. And that makes me mad. Dont even get me started on the useless booster.....

The scientists and medics may be vindicated in 10 or 20 years time, but geez we are taking a chance with our younger generation..... for what?

Fuck me. I’m sorry I asked. 

I’m getting my booster early Feb and my little girl gets her first shot two days later. Wish me luck you crazy conspiracy theory nut jobs. 

Marki I am glad that every thing panned out well because I wish no one ever got injured or worse from this covid event. Zef you can throw figures left, right and centre but are they even worth a cold cup of piss. The government have been spinning numbers since this epidemic started 2 years ago and nobody except those that are releasing these figures know the truth. I am definately not an anti-vaxxer as I have had all my childhood vaccines and any adult ones including flu shots, but never have I been threatened that I would lose my job or have been restricted in my freedoms for not taking one. This whole covid thing has been handled pathetically by those in charge and the conditions placed on those not following their instructions most certainly reeks of some sort of conspiracy. I have nothing against those that are vaccinated it's their choice and none if my business and I expect the same response from those that are.

Micko, luck has nothing to do with it. It's your choice and no one has the right to deny you that.

These figures you talk of are not from ‘the government’ they are from health agencies. They normally contain information that is peer reviewed from almost every person with a degree in a similar scientific field. If any information was incorrect numerous people that have a much greater knowledge than you or I would scream and shout how wrong the information was. 

I think we need a thumbs down button 

Micko, we do and those people are ostracized for their observations and banished as crackpots or accused as " having an opposing agenda". All these experts are employed to do a job and know that they will no longer be employed if they don't do what their employer tells them. You have (or have had) a job so you know what is expected, and I am in the same boat with my employer. And why do you want a thumbs down button?,  because what I say doesn't fit your narrative. Mate we have to get over our differences and move on. We have season of Rugba Leeg looming and at the moment it's the only thing to get excited about.