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Do wonder if withdrawing facebook and twitter from Russia was the right thing. At least there was a chance the average Russian could see what was going on. Now they're just stuck with government sources for all their information.

70% for the war amongst average Russians apparently.




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Great video here on logistical problem Russia is having.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4wRdoWpw0w



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Munrubenmuz - 11 Mar 2022 10:35 AM
Do wonder if withdrawing facebook and twitter from Russia was the right thing. At least there was a chance the average Russian could see what was going on. Now they're just stuck with government sources for all their information.

70% for the war amongst average Russians apparently.


Yeah my thoughts too. 

However the propogamda and ludicrous crap that all the alt right types re post and use as content from sites such as numerous posted on here originates from there

so double edged sword I guess. 

Russians I know are telling me that most people in Russia don’t even think there is a battle and the people are being liberated 

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Thai is amazing 

https://mobile.twitter.com/i_army_org/status/1500429829920993280

this is for the Russian Troops. Fuck me, what a superpower hey. 

A tactic could be to let them be in Ukraine for ages and then fucking destroy them. I’m surprised how bad they look already. Worrying though as they might take more drastic measures 

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*this. Bloody autocorrect 
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tsf - 11 Mar 2022 12:27 PM
Thai is amazing 

https://mobile.twitter.com/i_army_org/status/1500429829920993280

this is for the Russian Troops. Fuck me, what a superpower hey. 

A tactic could be to let them be in Ukraine for ages and then fucking destroy them. I’m surprised how bad they look already. Worrying though as they might take more drastic measures 

Been watching a bit of analysis. It's fascinating stuff. Rather than target the 40 mile long convoy they're just targeting the fuel trucks. No fuel, can't move.

Russians have been resorting to trying to disguise them but social media is highlighting how and they're still being hit. 



Weird how your pro-Trump anti vaxxer types are sort of rooting for the Russians here. At any other time in history they'd be anti Russia everything.

Watching the right, and there's a few of them here too, tie themselves in knots trying to not agree with what the 'lefty' left is trying to do.


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the Kremlin's propaganda machine reaches far and wide

most of the alt-right has been influenced by it for the past 6 years

we take for granted our free and fair media here...it must be tough for average Russians only getting one side of the story
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sydneyfc1987 - 10 Mar 2022 7:09 PM
Munrubenmuz - 9 Mar 2022 7:08 PM

That "Biden do bad" no matter what he does or says and that everything is the fault of the lefty boogeyman.

What other point is rusty capable of making? 

It's a nice simple way to have a ready-to-go opinion on everything:

Why is the A-League faltering? THE LEFT

Why is Russia invading Ukraine? THE LEFT

Why are do my bedsheets also have pieces of lint in them? THE LEFT




Clearly. Unionised labour means lower quality = lint. OR the left pushing for globalisation with cheap labour = lower quality = lint. 
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Munrubenmuz - 11 Mar 2022 1:15 AM
AJF - 10 Mar 2022 3:15 PM

There's a difference between biological research labs and biological weapons research. For example Australia would have hundreds, if not more, biological research labs. Imagine someone invading Australia and then telling the world they were doing it because of our biological weapons research. FFS.

Nice selective quoting by the way.

Did you even read the transcript or just the headlines? Rubio is saying any talk of biological weapons is a false flag by Russia.


Rubio Speaks at Senate Foreign Relations Committee Hearing on Putin’s Invasion of Ukraine, Condemns Talks with Maduro
MAR 08 2022
Washington, D.C. — U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) spoke during a Senate Committee on Foreign Relations hearing and condemned the Biden Administration’s decision to engage in talks with the Maduro narco-regime of Venezuela. Rubio also warned of the possibility of Russian false flag operations involving biological warfare and discussed Russia’s frozen economy. Video of Rubio’s remarks can be found here and a full transcript is below. 
 


Rubio.
I only have a minute left. Let me ask you, does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?
 
Nuland: Ukraine has biological research facilities, which, in fact, we are now quite concerned Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of. So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces, should they approach.
 
Rubio: I'm sure you're aware that the Russian propaganda groups are already putting out there all kinds of information about how they've uncovered a plot by the Ukrainians to release biological weapons in the country with NATO's coordination. 
 
If there is a biological or chemical weapon incident or attack inside of Ukraine, is there any doubt in your mind that 100 percent, it would be the Russians that would be behind it?
 
Nuland: There is no doubt in my mind, Senator. And it is classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy what they're planning to do themselves.

Nuland: There is no doubt in my mind, Senator. And it is classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy what they're planning to do themselves.



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roosty - 11 Mar 2022 1:31 AM
sydneyfc1987 - 10 Mar 2022 7:09 PM

Pretty much. Joe Biden promised global peace and stability while threatening to go “toe to toe” with Putin. How’s that working out? His foreign policy is an abject miserable failure. 

Yes the A league is suffocating under the weight of political correctness and shitty ideals like inclusion and diversity rather than focusing on what makes football worth watching like the tribal element and fans hating each other for no good reason. 

Also the Left insists of globalised foreign production of bed linen which results in poor quality product and increased pilling.


Holy shit. I didn't even read this yet and predicted it.
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tsf - 11 Mar 2022 12:27 PM
Thai is amazing 

https://mobile.twitter.com/i_army_org/status/1500429829920993280

this is for the Russian Troops. Fuck me, what a superpower hey. 

A tactic could be to let them be in Ukraine for ages and then fucking destroy them. I’m surprised how bad they look already. Worrying though as they might take more drastic measures 

Watching Enemy at the Gates again. Think the opening scene is a mirror of reality.
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Munrubenmuz - 11 Mar 2022 12:51 PM
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Been watching a bit of analysis. It's fascinating stuff. Rather than target the 40 mile long convoy they're just targeting the fuel trucks. No fuel, can't move.

Russians have been resorting to trying to disguise them but social media is highlighting how and they're still being hit. 



Weird how your pro-Trump anti vaxxer types are sort of rooting for the Russians here. At any other time in history they'd be anti Russia everything.

Watching the right, and there's a few of them here too, tie themselves in knots trying to not agree with what the 'lefty' left is trying to do.

Gotta be careful with this. There is deliberate propaganda being put out and we're soaking it in because most of us want Ukraine to win. 

US estimates are Russia have expended 5% of their force. Out of 150k-200k, that's massive in 2 weeks.
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Nuland: There is no doubt in my mind, Senator. And it is classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy what they're planning to do themselves.



Victoria Nuland is an amazing woman.
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Exclusive: WHO says it advised Ukraine to destroy pathogens in health labs to prevent disease spread

March 10 (Reuters) - The World Health Organization advised Ukraine to destroy high-threat pathogens housed in the country's public health laboratories to prevent "any potential spills" that would spread disease among the population, the agency told Reuters on Thursday.

Biosecurity experts say Russia's movement of troops into Ukraine and bombardment of its cities have raised the risk of an escape of disease-causing pathogens, should any of those facilities be damaged.

Like many other countries, Ukraine has public health laboratories researching how to mitigate the threats of dangerous diseases affecting both animals and humans including, most recently, COVID-19. Its labs have received support from the United States, the European Union and the WHO.

In response to questions from Reuters about its work with Ukraine ahead of and during Russia's invasion, the WHO said in an email that it has collaborated with Ukrainian public health labs for several years to promote security practices that help prevent "accidental or deliberate release of pathogens."

"As part of this work, WHO has strongly recommended to the Ministry of Health in Ukraine and other responsible bodies to destroy high-threat pathogens to prevent any potential spills," the WHO, a United Nations agency, said.

The WHO would not say when it had made the recommendation nor did it provide specifics about the kinds of pathogens or toxins housed in Ukraine's laboratories. The agency also did not answer questions about whether its recommendations were followed.

Ukrainian officials in Kyiv and at their embassy in Washington did not respond to requests for comment.

Ukraine's laboratory capabilities are at the center of a growing information war since Russia began moving troops into Ukraine two weeks ago.

On Wednesday, Russian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova repeated a longstanding claim that the United States operates a biowarfare lab in Ukraine, an accusation that has been repeatedly denied by Washington and Kyiv.

Zakharova said that documents unearthed by Russian forces in Ukraine showed "an emergency attempt to erase evidence of military biological programmes" by destroying lab samples.

Reuters was unable to independently confirm her information. read more

In response, a Ukrainian presidential spokesperson said: "Ukraine strictly denies any such allegation." U.S. government spokespeople also strongly denied Zakharova's accusations, saying that Russia may use its claims as a pretext to deploy its own chemical or biological weapons.

The WHO statement made no reference to biowarfare. The agency said it encourages all parties to cooperate in "the safe and secure disposal of any pathogens they come across, and to reach out for technical assistance as needed." It offered to help wherever possible with technical guidance and coordination.

The United Nations Security Council will convene on Friday at Russia's request, diplomats said, to discuss Moscow's claims, presented without evidence, of U.S. biological activities in Ukraine.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/exclusive-who-says-it-advised-ukraine-destroy-pathogens-health-labs-prevent-2022-03-11/









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Munrubenmuz - 11 Mar 2022 1:15 AM

Nuland: There is no doubt in my mind, Senator. And it is classic Russian technique to blame on the other guy what they're planning to do themselves.



Trump was great at this. 

Drain the swamp when he had the biggest swamp money making scam off all these alt right morons. 

Ffs he even had them cheering for him appointing his kids 😅😂

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tsf - 11 Mar 2022 2:49 PM
Burztur - 11 Mar 2022 2:16 PM

Trump was great at this. 

Drain the swamp when he had the biggest swamp money making scam off all these alt right morons. 

Ffs he even had them cheering for him appointing his kids 😅😂

The world is full of morons, its why people get their "news" from social media..... shit most people need to wear bedroom slippers because they confuse their right with their left most of the time..... 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi

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Monoethnic Social Club - 11 Mar 2022 3:13 PM
tsf - 11 Mar 2022 2:49 PM

The world is full of morons, its why people get their "news" from social media..... shit most people need to wear bedroom slippers because they confuse their right with their left most of the time..... 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi

Yeah trump was actually a shitty businessman until he became a politician and exploited all this and became the swamp. 

Based off his inheritance he had so many failures. 

But hooked this lot remarkably well and baited the other side. 



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tsf - 11 Mar 2022 2:49 PM
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Trump was great at this. 

Drain the swamp when he had the biggest swamp money making scam off all these alt right morons. 

Ffs he even had them cheering for him appointing his kids 😅😂

yes, not to mention his investments in Russia being exposed after he accused Biden of making money from Ukraine, which is an ally
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breaking: Ukraine has lost all communication with Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant, official agency says
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tsf - 11 Mar 2022 3:20 PM
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Yeah trump was actually a shitty businessman until he became a politician and exploited all this and became the swamp. 

Based off his inheritance he had so many failures. 

But hooked this lot remarkably well and baited the other side. 



No argument there.... this shit has been going on for 10 thousand years.... 
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AJF - 11 Mar 2022 2:48 PM

Exclusive: WHO says it advised Ukraine to destroy pathogens in health labs to prevent disease spread

March 10 (Reuters) - The World Health Organization advised Ukraine to destroy high-threat pathogens housed in the country's public health laboratories to prevent "any potential spills" that would spread disease among the population, the agency told Reuters on Thursday.

Biosecurity experts say Russia's movement of troops into Ukraine and bombardment of its cities have raised the risk of an escape of disease-causing pathogens, should any of those facilities be damaged.

Like many other countries, Ukraine has public health laboratories researching how to mitigate the threats of dangerous diseases affecting both animals and humans including, most recently, COVID-19. Its labs have received support from the United States, the European Union and the WHO.

In response to questions from Reuters about its work with Ukraine ahead of and during Russia's invasion, the WHO said in an email that it has collaborated with Ukrainian public health labs for several years to promote security practices that help prevent "accidental or deliberate release of pathogens."

"As part of this work, WHO has strongly recommended to the Ministry of Health in Ukraine and other responsible bodies to destroy high-threat pathogens to prevent any potential spills," the WHO, a United Nations agency, said.

The WHO would not say when it had made the recommendation nor did it provide specifics about the kinds of pathogens or toxins housed in Ukraine's laboratories. The agency also did not answer questions about whether its recommendations were followed.

Ukrainian officials in Kyiv and at their embassy in Washington did not respond to requests for comment.

Ukraine's laboratory capabilities are at the center of a growing information war since Russia began moving troops into Ukraine two weeks ago.

On Wednesday, Russian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova repeated a longstanding claim that the United States operates a biowarfare lab in Ukraine, an accusation that has been repeatedly denied by Washington and Kyiv.

Zakharova said that documents unearthed by Russian forces in Ukraine showed "an emergency attempt to erase evidence of military biological programmes" by destroying lab samples.

Reuters was unable to independently confirm her information. read more

In response, a Ukrainian presidential spokesperson said: "Ukraine strictly denies any such allegation." U.S. government spokespeople also strongly denied Zakharova's accusations, saying that Russia may use its claims as a pretext to deploy its own chemical or biological weapons.

The WHO statement made no reference to biowarfare. The agency said it encourages all parties to cooperate in "the safe and secure disposal of any pathogens they come across, and to reach out for technical assistance as needed." It offered to help wherever possible with technical guidance and coordination.

The United Nations Security Council will convene on Friday at Russia's request, diplomats said, to discuss Moscow's claims, presented without evidence, of U.S. biological activities in Ukraine.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/exclusive-who-says-it-advised-ukraine-destroy-pathogens-health-labs-prevent-2022-03-11/

What is your point? Research facilities have pathogens and...?

Newsflash, Australian labs contain pathogens too.

No one is denying there are labs there but this alt-right fantasy the right has concocted to justify Russia invading is delusional.

Are you actually backing Russia here?




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tsf - 11 Mar 2022 3:20 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 11 Mar 2022 3:13 PM

Yeah trump was actually a shitty businessman until he became a politician and exploited all this and became the swamp. 

Based off his inheritance he had so many failures. 

But hooked this lot remarkably well and baited the other side. 



Never forget he tried to extort Zelensky for dirt on Hunter Biden by withholding $400 million in military aid.

What a guy. 


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sydneyfc1987 - 8 Mar 2022 6:37 PM
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Yeah I just don't quite get it. Nobody bites except morons like rusty and John smith

tsf - 8 Mar 2022 3:35 PM
The point of a troll account is to stir attention. When nobody even engages months later but the person is still
posting their crap, it’s actually rather sad. Also concerning. 

Baffling. PaulC or Libel or AJF or Rusty. Not sure who.
Has staying power though.

100% parody.




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Baffling. PaulC or Libel or AJF or Rusty. Not sure who.
Has staying power though.

100% parody.


Paulc and libel are the same right?

I've thought that remote control and cesspit are both paulc but could be wrong

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The world is full of morons, its why people get their "news" from social media..... shit most people need to wear bedroom slippers because they confuse their right with their left most of the time..... 


I think the biggest issue (in the west anyway) is people feel the need to place everything that happens in the world  into the spectrum of left vs right.

Its an attempt to simplify events so people can think they understand something when inreality things are far more complex. 

I mean today some republican bloke is calling Zelensky "woke". Sorry I thought he was a Nazi?

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What is your point? Research facilities have pathogens and...?

Newsflash, Australian labs contain pathogens too.

No one is denying there are labs there but this alt-right fantasy the right has concocted to justify Russia invading is delusional.

Are you actually backing Russia here?


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Europe is funding the war not Chelsea football club

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EU has committed to 2027 to end it's reliance on Russian coal oil and gas.
In the meantime time paying 1 billion euro a day untill 2027.
Fmd Merkel legacy and her coalition with the ecoloons.

Europe is funding the war not Chelsea football club

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Europe is funding the war not Chelsea football club

Europe is funding the war not Chelsea football club

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Putin's forces are getting kicked to the kerb by Zelensky's rag tag freedom fighters

not only will this be humiliating for him, but its a massive loss for the alt-right loons that supported him
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