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Gutted my favourites over many years have been omitted. Brought on themselves. Arnold could've cleaned up more by not picking Leckie and Maclaren.

It's just frustrating the lack of decent talent and club performance that gets converted to national team success. Namely Dougall, Elder, Ikon, Taggart with a golden boot. 
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if Rowles and Souttar pull up sore after first game we really going to start Deng and Wright?
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A small note
No Western Australians selected with Taggart and Sainsbury not going. WA press making note of it and I appreciate how they always feature their locals. 
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johnszasz - 8 Nov 2022 4:53 PM
Gutted my favourites over many years have been omitted. Brought on themselves. Arnold could've cleaned up more by not picking Leckie and Maclaren.

It's just frustrating the lack of decent talent and club performance that gets converted to national team success. Namely Dougall, Elder, Ikon, Taggart with a golden boot. 

Leckie has been playing extremely well this season.
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jas88 - 8 Nov 2022 4:54 PM
if Rowles and Souttar pull up sore after first game we really going to start Deng and Wright?

I realised the other day that Wright has stood up from obscurity against both Honduras and Peru. I'll back him all the way despite the immense challenge.

He's ahead of Degenek in Arnold's preferences I think. 
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tsf - 8 Nov 2022 4:49 PM
Alfred - 8 Nov 2022 4:40 PM

They've all been woeful. 

Davidson was probably top 3 player in the league last year and rightly earned a move back to Europe. 

He was given a chance and he blew it. It is completely his fault he is not in the squad.
Same with Dougall who was given a chance and was also woeful.
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Keeper66 - 8 Nov 2022 4:57 PM
johnszasz - 8 Nov 2022 4:53 PM

Leckie has been playing extremely well this season.

Thankfully yet whether it'll bring anything valuable to the national team remains to be seen. His scorer record with that many caps is woeful. 
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I guess there still is a chance that either Rowles or Souttar have to pull out of the squad due to their injuries and Sainsbury could replace them. 
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verrelli - 8 Nov 2022 4:50 PM
"Alternative 26 man squad" of those not in the squad today:

Langerak
Strain Sainsbury Circati Davidson
Dougall Rogic Genreau
Tilio Taggart Volpato

Subs: Gauci, Birighitti, Risdon, Delbridge, McGowan, Gersbach, Elder, Francois, Brimmer, Luongo, Metcalfe, Arzani, Kalik, Ikonomidis, D'Agostino 

A lot of good players there. Whether some now retire from international football remains to be seen. Asian Cup not far away so players will be kicking on. 
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johnszasz - 8 Nov 2022 5:04 PM
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Thankfully yet whether it'll bring anything valuable to the national team remains to be seen. His scorer record with that many caps is woeful. 

Yes, not convinced about Leckie in forward positions against quality opposition. Same for Duke. How King was selected ahead of Elder is one for Arnie to explain.
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Alfred - 8 Nov 2022 4:40 PM
tsf - 8 Nov 2022 4:16 PM

Davidson was given a game against Jordan earlier in the year and he was terrible, absolutely woeful. When he has played for the Socceroos he has consistently shown he is not good enough.

He was injured in that game.  He is much better than King at least
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Genreau just not right and the right time. He and Metcalfe will have their moment.

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Is Elder injured? 
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dr. bellows - 8 Nov 2022 5:12 PM
johnszasz - 8 Nov 2022 5:04 PM

Yes, not convinced about Leckie in forward positions against quality opposition. Same for Duke. How King was selected ahead of Elder is one for Arnie to explain.

Elder has had a hamstring niggle. I'm glad he got a debut. I'm totally ready to support Arnold and the team and this is the situation. Yet part of me can't help but wonder how another coach would select and play with all the player's at the country's disposal. This is a fan thought. Until then it's time to get behind our squad and give it our all. 
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Alfred - 8 Nov 2022 4:59 PM
tsf - 8 Nov 2022 4:49 PM

He was given a chance and he blew it. It is completely his fault he is not in the squad.
Same with Dougall who was given a chance and was also woeful.

Behich has been woeful game after game for aus. Played about 1 good in 10. 
King is never proven a single thing at that level. 
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mark_000au - 8 Nov 2022 5:13 PM
Alfred - 8 Nov 2022 4:40 PM

He was injured in that game.  He is much better than King at least

Yeah but he only gets one chance apparently. 

Where as the others can play poorly consistently. 



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huddo - 8 Nov 2022 6:08 AM
Actually understand Arnie's position if it's true, Arnie's style of play has a preference for sweeper keepers, that being said I'd still take Langer's if I was in his position, I'd just take another sweeper keepers as the third string.

Are we really going to play a high line against Mbappe? Is Arnie insane or?
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verrelli - 8 Nov 2022 4:50 PM
"Alternative 26 man squad" of those not in the squad today:

Langerak
Strain Sainsbury Circati Davidson
Dougall Rogic Genreau
Tilio Taggart Volpato

Subs: Gauci, Birighitti, Risdon, Delbridge, McGowan, Gersbach, Elder, Francois, Brimmer, Luongo, Metcalfe, Arzani, Kalik, Ikonomidis, D'Agostino 

There is depth there. I still reckon in some parallel universe James Holland and Nikita Rukavytsya would have been mainstays of the last five years. It really comes down to favouritism, though we're obviously not privy to what goes down at training camps etc.
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ctrl - 8 Nov 2022 5:23 PM
verrelli - 8 Nov 2022 4:50 PM

There is depth there. I still reckon in some parallel universe James Holland and Nikita Rukavytsya would have been mainstays of the last five years. It really comes down to favouritism, though we're obviously not privy to what goes down at training camps etc.

Every country probably has it but there's a massive favouritsm issue. But hey, maybe some of the players just don't like each other either and the coach has to pick the most cohesive bunch. I personally don't think we can afford to omit our better players.

At the same time Arnold clearly doesn't want to and maybe can't work with the likes of Dougall and Elder and your above mentioned names have fulfilled the criteria to get into a squad. 
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I'm surprised and annoyed that Rogic, Langerak and Sainsbury miss out. I guess I can understand why with the first two, but I think it genuinely makes us weaker. Langerak is easily our best keeper now that Ryan has declined so precipitously and Vukovic is, what, 40? It's just a dumb decision. Rogic is probably rusty af, but I'd still take him. He's one of a very few in this squad capable of that little bit of magic and creativity. I don't really know how Sainsbury's going these days, but I just assumed he'd go. He's normally been pretty solid for Australia. Wasn't he meant to be one of Arnold's favourites? What happened to Arnie's nepotism? I also find not taking Taggart surprising.

Not impressed with the squad at all. 
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19-SU-58 - 8 Nov 2022 4:41 PM
Alfred - 8 Nov 2022 4:11 PM

on paper, the worst socceroos squad in the last 5 WC's.


not   bad   if    the    supposedly   "worst  socceroos  squad"  in   the   last   5   campaigns   still    qualifies    for    the   WC , eh ?
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Arnold always says players must be playing consistently to play for Roos.

Joel King has played just 292 minutes this season. 



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tsf - 8 Nov 2022 5:17 PM
Alfred - 8 Nov 2022 4:59 PM

Behich has been woeful game after game for aus. Played about 1 good in 10. 
King is never proven a single thing at that level. 

We're human, aren't we? I personally love having Sainsbury and Rogic around but seeing them perform poorly hurts. I won't have that now. I know my arguments about picking them is clutching at straws. We all have our preferences. Then there's Behich who I've never been particularly fond of. Like with Leckie, I just want them out. Ample opportunity for little return. 
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Some interesting omissions. 

Langerak, Sainbury, Rogic & Taggart I could imagine would be absolutely shocked and or gutted.  

You’d think Arnie would have them around at least for experience sake.

How Maclaren continues to get caps is beyond me. The bloke is & has been a ghost for the national team for far too long now. 

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Balin Trev - 8 Nov 2022 5:34 PM
Arnold always says players must be playing consistently to play for Roos.

Joel King has played just 292 minutes this season. 



How many has Souttar played? And how about Ryan for that matter? 
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tsf - 8 Nov 2022 5:18 PM
mark_000au - 8 Nov 2022 5:13 PM

Yeah but he only gets one chance apparently. 

Where as the others can play poorly consistently. 



Davidson has had a lot more chances than just one chance. 
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Surprised by the lack of Sainsbury, but the cynic in me thinks he's made his own bed. If he was still playing regularly in Belgium, you'd assume he'd be picked. Too many strange moves over the years.

TBH I always look forward to the period after a World Cup cycle. Genreau, Metcalfe, even Arzani etc. should have their moment to shine leading into the Asian Cup.
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johnszasz - 8 Nov 2022 5:11 PM
verrelli - 8 Nov 2022 4:50 PM

A lot of good players there. Whether some now retire from international football remains to be seen. Asian Cup not far away so players will be kicking on. 

I don't recall where Arnold's contract is at, but a poor WC performance could either see him gone, or even a revisit to those who missed out this time.
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Alfred - 8 Nov 2022 5:40 PM
tsf - 8 Nov 2022 5:18 PM

Davidson has had a lot more chances than just one chance. 

Davidson is relentlessly mediocre and always has been. There are some odd emmisions from this squad, but he is not one of those. I wouldn't take him either. 

I also wouldn't be taking Elder or Dougall. What have they ever shown to deserve a spot? 
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Balin Trev - 8 Nov 2022 5:34 PM
Arnold always says players must be playing consistently to play for Roos.


This is the thing that bugs me the most, because it's obviously a rule only when it suits the coach. There are plenty of Twitter threads going into detail on minutes played so far this season - and it doesn't really align with certain selections.
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