I do. I’m proud of the decision.

He refused national team call-ups. Fuck him.

He and Volpato can go and create a little anti-Australia groupchat and bitch all they want about the Socceroos. We should only want players who would die for the shirt and never say no to their country. 

My beef is not the non-selection of Langerak - but the blind belief by many that Danny is the number three that should miss out. Danny is and always has been a better keeper than Redmayne. 

• Redmayne until he has played his one trick Wiggles stunt has never been a great penalty stopper. Maty, Danny and Mitch have all been better over a number of years both as shot stoppers and saving penalties.
• We are at long odds to get out of the group so bringing him on is unlikely
• Everybody has now seen his one trick
• Even if they fear him they simply need to keep possession and in in play for the last couple of minutes of extra time in a knockout game
• He is a wasted spot. 

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The issue ain't Danny, it's Redmayne

I don’t have a problem with the Langerak omission. In my view there are parallels between him and Rogic. Do you think Rogic didn’t get selected because he wasn’t match fit enough? No, it’s because he ditched the Socceroos at the most critical point of qualifying, without substantiating his reasons other than being “personal”. It sounds like him and Arnold had a big falling out over something. Looking back at fixtures earlier this year maybe he was upset about being substituted a couple of times.

Although Langerak situation is a little bit different, in that he formally returned and then formally came back, he didn’t do the hard graft, sacrifices and give unwavering loyalty to the NT like Vukovic did. When there is close competition for spots then that is when the non tangibles like loyalty, sacrifice etc make a difference. Some will argue that there is no close competition and that Langerak is clearly the better keeper, but then the same argument would also pertain to Rogic. Not saying that Langerak didn’t deserve to go, but there are others who deserved to go more than him because over the 3-4 years of qualifying they gave more to the cause.

Redmayne was never not going to be selected after his penalty heroics against Peru. He booked his ticket right then and there. 

Mitch plays at a higher level, if Vuko or Redmayne were superior they also would be at a higher level. Not taking a younger 3rd GK for the experience is criminal.

It really doesn't matter who the third choice is. I wouldn't want either Vukovic or Redmayne to come on, but I suppose they could both do a job as a last resort. Either/or, whatever. Taking them both though? Shambolic and inexcusable. It's a disgrace, especially with Ryan seemingly injured and out of form and Langerak in the form of his life. 

Redmayne was probably always going after his Peru save. He rescued Arnie from an ignominious end and got rewarded. And fair enough. Good on him. He was highly unlikely to come on anyway. I would've been fine with taking him over Vukovic, who has shown nothing in years now and is clearly on his last legs. 

Langerak did the travel and sat on the bench for the Socceroo's for 8 years for a total of 8 games without getting a look in because Ryan had to be first keeper, even at times when Ryan had played poorly or not been playing regular for his club, he well and truly paid his bench warming dues, actually a lot more than either Vuka or Redmayne, so this argument is complete bullshit.   

Does Goodwin get the same response?

OK, so why did Arnold go out of his way to coax him out of retirement only to shaft him like this? That just seems like a cruel and vindictive stunt now. Like he went out of his way to let him down just to show everyone who the boss is. It makes Arnie look like a sociopath. I could even understand if he had said from the start that Langerak would not be considered due to a lack of loyalty, but no. He brought him out of retirement, flew him here to sit on the bench for the friendlies, and then fucked him off him while blaming it on a goalkeeping coach. I'm sorry, that's not OK. 

And Langerak is hardly like Volpato or even Rogic. At least he had a reasonable excuse. Japan's covid rules meant that it genuinely would have been tougher on him than just about anyone else to travel at the time. Maybe he didn't have to retire, but it was somewhat understandable. 

Rogic non-selection is weird and unfortunate but can be justified, sort of. He disappeared for months with no explanation, seemingly ignored Arnold's contact attempts, has barely played in a long time, and most crucially, we have decent cover in his position. None of these things apply to Langerak. He is clearly our best keeper right now and it's not even close. 

Not true. Ryan is our best keeper and has played at the very highest level including the Premier league. You could argue that Langerak is our most in form keeper but it’s all relative. Although he keeps lots of clean sheets he plays in a league where keepers are rarely aerially tested and the J league is low scoring compared to other leagues. The type of players and teams we will face in the WC will be the type of players and teams Ryan has faced in his career, whreas It will be a new experience for Langerak. The fawning over Langerak is a bit ridiculous imo. 

I mean, Langerak played in Bundesliga for years. Admittedly mostly on the bench, but it's absurd to paint him as some deer in the headlights on the world stage. Plus he's currently the best keeper in a tougher league than Denmark, where Maty once again warms the bench. 

At first I thought it was so unfair to bench Ryan at Brighton, but now I'm starting to get genuinely concerned about his career trajectory. I don't know if we overrated him or he has declined, but he seems to be a perennial reserve keeper wherever he goes now. He was having a mediocre season when benched by Potter and is finding it very hard to bounce back. He really should be doing better in bloody Denmark. I'm starting to think that he's not the top keeper I believed him to be. 

100% agree!!

8 whole games, get him a medal

Wasn't it also far more complicated for him to re-enter Japan as a non citizen during the pandemic. It wasn't as simple as entering, isolating and then going home,  I thought the risk was that he would have to return to Australia and apply to gain entry to Japan which could take weeks and or month or refusal. I know a family who the father is Japan but wife and children are all born in Australia and although they all work in Japan only the husband could easily enter the country. 

There's an arguement that all 3 going to the world cup couldn't missed out on the squad if arnie and Crawley weren't in charge. 

You missed the whole point; he was in Socceroo's campaigns and squads for 8 years and only played 8 times event though he has a strong case for the number 1 spot. A lot of players are going to get sick of doing this just to sit on the bench and never get an opportunity no matter how good you play because Ryan always has to be No. 1. Plus, GA asked him to come out of retirement which make the whole situation even more bizarre that he didn't pick him. 

You don't pick players for the World Cup on the basis of "loyalty" or "doing the road trips".  You pick your best and in-form at that moment.  Its the WC FFS! It doesn't get any bigger.  Pick your best.

In any case Ryan is over-rated and probably has more caps than he deserved.  He had a terrible 2018 and should have been demoted and made to earn his spot- which on the basis of his club form since- he clearly has not.

Langerak was given one chance and had a brain fade and was never seen again.  Ryan just watches them go past without even an attempt a save.

As for Redmayne, give me a fucking break.  He should never be anywhere near any national team.

Both are true. 

Show the stats of number of saves. Some games Langerak was poor in J league. Sometimes 2 shots on target and 2 goals.

I'd wait until after the World Cup.

Ryan is not a shot-stopping keeper.  Any shot either side of him is pretty much going in.

Spot on 

Guarantee soon the discussions will will be better about which goals Ryan should gave saved. 

It always has been. 

The fact is that Maty has had a better career and is 4 years younger. Mitch wasted years sitting on the pine at Dortmund.

Maty has played 147 games in the leagues in teams that are in the top 5 leagues or in Champions League competitions with mostly weaker sides. He conceded 214 goals and kept 34 clean sheets. i.e that is he has conceded 1.46 goals a game and kept a clean sheet percentage of 23% with predominantly weaker teams at the highest level.

Mitch by comparison played 24 games at that level conceding 32 goals  and kept 5 clean sheets. He conceded only 1.33 goals a game and kept a clean sheet percentage of 21% but played the majority of games with Dortmund who were first or second for 4 of the 5 years he was there.

I think Mitch had the talent to have a much better career. He wasted his time largely sitting on the pine collecting his money at Dortmund. He had the talent to play consistently in a top 5 league, but chose to stay at Dortmund. 

At the national level Maty has played 74 times conceding 69 goals and keeping 30 clean sheets.
In qualification for the World Cup he has played 34 times conceding 26 goals and keeping 15 clean sheets 

Mitch has played 8 times conceding 17 goals and kept 3 clean sheets
He has played one World Cup qualifier where he conceded 1 goal and has kept no clean sheets   

I don't have that data but I'm happy for you to share it. I've put up plenty of data though to support the contention that Langerak is our strongest keeper and so far you've only offered a subjective assertion of what Langerak did in "some games" without any data behind it. 

Thanks for sharing this data. An argument can be made between whether Ryan or Langerak is the strongest keeper and I can accept that Ryan has generally played in strong leagues, which has impacted on his number of appearances etc. The criticism of Langerak for warming the pine at Dortmund is fair, though it is worth noting that over the last 5 years Langerak has played an extraordinary number of games for Nagoya as first choice whereas Ryan has bounced from Brighton to Arsenal to Sociedad to Copenhagen, in each case ending up as 2nd choice. What I can't accept though is any argument that Redmayne or Vukovic are superior to Langerak.

Who is the in form keeper right now: Ryan or Langerak?

As for Langerak's Dortmund career, people make it sound like he was Kalac riding the pine at Milan for the money. He wasn't.

Langerak was a young keeper behind an ageing Weidenfeller at the second biggest club in Germany.  He would have expected that in time he would have taken over as the number 1, and actually so did the Dortmund fans who were not happy when he was let go.

This was peak Dortmund too with a reputation for developing youth. Any young player at a massive club in Europe at the time would have done the same.

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