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Keeper66
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+x+x+xTwo good saves by Maty at the end. While the error is unforgiveable Foster is right. We go back when we should, Ryan shouldn't take a touch, plenty of players do it. Absolute millisecond is all you need and here Ryan lost out. Even after the touch he could have poked it away desperately instead of trying to be cocky after one good sweeper moment earlier.
Both those good saves were good but fairly regulation let’s be honest Yeah just toe it. This is what gripes me so much. If Ryan saves, it was easy. If he concedes, he should've gotten to it. The advantage of all this football at once shows how many keepers concede yet the book doesn't get thrown at them like Ryan and it angers me so much. Tall keepers not getting to it, Neuer feigning away, the stuff De Gea has gotten away with at club level. Despite Ryan's dip, he's still very good pound for pound. Agree. Just in this game, Emi Martinez got shut down by Duke, when pressured by him, and Duke blocked his clearance. A few millimetres more and the block goes into a much more dangerous place rather than out of play.
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I’d flatten him if I was Maty
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+xI’d flatten him if I was Maty I’d flatten him as myself. What a disgusting piece of shit.
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Davide82
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+x+x+x+xTwo good saves by Maty at the end. While the error is unforgiveable Foster is right. We go back when we should, Ryan shouldn't take a touch, plenty of players do it. Absolute millisecond is all you need and here Ryan lost out. Even after the touch he could have poked it away desperately instead of trying to be cocky after one good sweeper moment earlier.
Both those good saves were good but fairly regulation let’s be honest Yeah just toe it. This is what gripes me so much. If Ryan saves, it was easy. If he concedes, he should've gotten to it. The advantage of all this football at once shows how many keepers concede yet the book doesn't get thrown at them like Ryan and it angers me so much. Tall keepers not getting to it, Neuer feigning away, the stuff De Gea has gotten away with at club level. Despite Ryan's dip, he's still very good pound for pound. Agree. Just in this game, Emi Martinez got shut down by Duke, when pressured by him, and Duke blocked his clearance. A few millimetres more and the block goes into a much more dangerous place rather than out of play. But he didn’t try to dribble Duke did he. Anyway
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+xI really can't believe Grabara's tweet gloating over Maty's mistake. How is it acceptable to keep slamming your teammate in public like that? What kind of club is Copenhagen if he wasn't told to pull his head in after last time? But wow, what a psycho. I hope he breaks his face again. It’s really is incredible when a complete nobody in football like Grabara can come out with a tweet like that. He must suffer from delusions of grandeur.
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Flytox
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+x+x+x+xTwo good saves by Maty at the end. While the error is unforgiveable Foster is right. We go back when we should, Ryan shouldn't take a touch, plenty of players do it. Absolute millisecond is all you need and here Ryan lost out. Even after the touch he could have poked it away desperately instead of trying to be cocky after one good sweeper moment earlier.
Both those good saves were good but fairly regulation let’s be honest Yeah just toe it. This is what gripes me so much. If Ryan saves, it was easy. If he concedes, he should've gotten to it. Ftr I never blamed him for the first goal and praised him the last two games so this isn’t quite correct here. The 2nd goal wasn’t “one he should have gotten to” it was a brain explosion. It’s fine. It is what it is and I could never handle the pressure either but let’s not sugar coat it. There’s no point in that at all If you have a careful look it wasn't a brain explosion at all. It was a skill error that led to a difficult choice for him. His heavy touch took the ball in the direction of the attacker to the point where if Ryan tried to clear it up field with his left foot it would hit the attacker and the rebound could go anywhere including back into the goal. His second alternative was to sweep the ball clear with his right foot with a risk that he would bring the attacker down. His third alternative was what he attempted which was to take the ball around the first attacker and then clear the ball. Unfortunately, the second attacker was too close and stole the ball off him. I don't think the situation would have been difficult at all if Ryan didn't have the heavy touch. As a keeper myself, a long time ago, I wouldn't have allowed the ball to reach the area in front of the goal. I would have moved towards the ball and side footed it with my right foot firmly in the air back in the direction it came from but I guess we knew nothing about playing out from the back in those days.
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Barca4Life
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+x+xI really can't believe Grabara's tweet gloating over Maty's mistake. How is it acceptable to keep slamming your teammate in public like that? What kind of club is Copenhagen if he wasn't told to pull his head in after last time? But wow, what a psycho. I hope he breaks his face again. It’s really is incredible when a complete nobody in football like Grabara can come out with a tweet like that. He must suffer from delusions of grandeur. I think Maty Ryan will need to be held by a security guard or teammates when they see each other again... Very poor taste by he's teammate.
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Keeper66
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+x+x+x+x+xTwo good saves by Maty at the end. While the error is unforgiveable Foster is right. We go back when we should, Ryan shouldn't take a touch, plenty of players do it. Absolute millisecond is all you need and here Ryan lost out. Even after the touch he could have poked it away desperately instead of trying to be cocky after one good sweeper moment earlier.
Both those good saves were good but fairly regulation let’s be honest Yeah just toe it. This is what gripes me so much. If Ryan saves, it was easy. If he concedes, he should've gotten to it. Ftr I never blamed him for the first goal and praised him the last two games so this isn’t quite correct here. The 2nd goal wasn’t “one he should have gotten to” it was a brain explosion. It’s fine. It is what it is and I could never handle the pressure either but let’s not sugar coat it. There’s no point in that at all If you have a careful look it wasn't a brain explosion at all. It was a skill error that led to a difficult choice for him. His heavy touch took the ball in the direction of the attacker to the point where if Ryan tried to clear it up field with his left foot it would hit the attacker and the rebound could go anywhere including back into the goal. His second alternative was to sweep the ball clear with his right foot with a risk that he would bring the attacker down. His third alternative was what he attempted which was to take the ball around the first attacker and then clear the ball. Unfortunately, the second attacker was too close and stole the ball off him. I don't think the situation would have been difficult at all if Ryan didn't have the heavy touch. As a keeper myself, a long time ago, I wouldn't have allowed the ball to reach the area in front of the goal. I would have moved towards the ball and side footed it with my right foot firmly in the air back in the direction it came from but I guess we knew nothing about playing out from the back in those days. Yep, agree with this, his attempt to touch the ball around the player was what he considered his best option, remembering the decision is made in a fraction of a second, after a slightly heavy first touch combined with extremely fast closing down by the first attacker. Was it an error? Yes. Is it unique to Mat Ryan? No. It has happened to pretty much all top class keepers at some time, and will continue to happen. This type of situation happens to outfield players multiple times per game. Unfortunately the consequences are different when it happens to a keeper every now and then. The over the top stuff that has been sprouted on here about this error by some of you people is sickening.
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+x+x+x+xif any manager with fresh eyes at this world cup had the choice out of Ryan and Langeak for their squad....who do folks think they'd go with? It depends on how the manager wants the team to play. If he needs a sweeper keeper that can set up play then he would go for Ryan. If he needs to bolster his defence and let the keeper release the ball to the nearest free player or boot it upfield then he would go for Langerak.The issue for the manager is that the style he wants to play needs to be subject to the abilities of the players he has available. It is no use picking a style the he is comfortable with if it doesn't bring the best out of the players he has available. We ceded possession in all 4 of our games, soaked up pressure and played on the counter. And IMO, it was very appropriate for Arnold to do that given the abilities of the players he had available But did he need a sweeper keeper to play that way? Having Ryan as the sweeper at least occasionally gave us that bit of control.
What the hell does that mean?
All keepers today play with the same set of skills.Some do it better than others
what is different is what the trainers play style is and instructions.
All keepers can pass a ball left or right or to any open field player.They can all lob pinpoint shots to selected players and they can all walk out of their boxes to counter a through ball.
I don’t see ever Ryan playing like a true sweeper who is technically out of their box acting as an extra field player.
.A team usually uses a sweeper because they believe they can score more goals with an extra field player and gamble away the defence on a goal line.
There is no true sweeper keeper in Professional football.
You’ll see it more likely in indoors were they remove the keeper and replace him with a field player and use that extra players passing a technical skill to outnumber the other team.
I’ve only really seen it in Junior Academies upto age U13 when a good field player has ok goalkeeping skills and is preferred over a traditional keeper.
Once the boys move onto the large goals they prefer defensive line keepers with good left and right feet.
That era of a goalkeeper just staying on his line is long gone.
All keepers today can sweep the ball. What has changed is the box rules.
It’s now safer for keepers to restart play from the back with two defenders standing inside the box on either side of the keeper.
So if you see a keeper just kicking long goal kicks then that comes from the trainer.
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It’s like no keeper understands the concept of passing or something. Ffs every keeper can pass the ball.
What can ryan do so well that others can’t? Genuine question.
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+xIt’s like no keeper understands the concept of passing or something. Ffs every keeper can pass the ball.
What can ryan do so well that others can’t? Genuine question. I used to think his distribution was better than most, but this seems to have fallen off a little. He used to do these neat long passes to the wings that would almost always find their targets, but now he misses as often as he hits.
From what I remember of Langerak, he was more a safety first keeper. I don’t remember much intricate play from the back with him.
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+x+xIt’s like no keeper understands the concept of passing or something. Ffs every keeper can pass the ball.
What can ryan do so well that others can’t? Genuine question. I used to think his distribution was better than most, but this seems to have fallen off a little. He used to do these neat long passes to the wings that would almost always find their targets, but now he misses as often as he hits.
From what I remember of Langerak, he was more a safety first keeper. I don’t remember much intricate play from the back with him. Langerak is a commanding GK with a phenomenal wingspan and cheetah like reflexes but I have never known him to be good with his feet. When playing out from the back is an imperative, it’s key that your GK is also a Libero.
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Volkira
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+x+xIt’s like no keeper understands the concept of passing or something. Ffs every keeper can pass the ball.
What can ryan do so well that others can’t? Genuine question. I used to think his distribution was better than most, but this seems to have fallen off a little. He used to do these neat long passes to the wings that would almost always find their targets, but now he misses as often as he hits.
From what I remember of Langerak, he was more a safety first keeper. I don’t remember much intricate play from the back with him. I haven’t watched Langerak in ages play but I can imagine he isn’t the goalkeeper we once saw many years ago. He wouldn’t be getting the applause in the J league today if he wasn’t constantly preforming at the highest level. He played great at Stuttgart prior to moving to Japan.
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+x+xI’d flatten him if I was Maty I’d flatten him as myself. What a disgusting piece of shit. More of a pathetic piece of shit than anything. A complete failure at Premier league level, which Many has actually achieved something at. 3rd or 4th choice for Poland. Wow!!!! Clearly he has some genuine insecurities
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Apparently Ryan’s agent said Ryan will be looking for a move away from Copenhagen in the next transfer period.
Beşiktaş was good for Loris Sven Karius.
Turkey maybe be an option to rebuild Ryans reputation and get the play time he needs.
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+xApparently Ryan’s agent said Ryan will be looking for a move away from Copenhagen in the next transfer period. Beşiktaş was good for Loris Sven Karius. Turkey maybe be an option to rebuild Ryans reputation and get the play time he needs. Ryan had his Karius moment last night. I hate pitting our keepers against each other but that's sport with a single position in a team. No footage but I remember Langerak doing something similar to lose the game late against Hannover. The Brazil friendly and Iraq away game has plenty showing Langerak also got caught out with the national team. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9NsLCENI6mwhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7CgeOsUZpsESome will say that's all in the past yet there's no way Ryan was going to be displaced in the now after having led the team all this time. Arnold stuck with what he knew, which is a fairly common thing.
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sydneyfc1987
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+x+xApparently Ryan’s agent said Ryan will be looking for a move away from Copenhagen in the next transfer period. Beşiktaş was good for Loris Sven Karius. Turkey maybe be an option to rebuild Ryans reputation and get the play time he needs. Ryan had his Karius moment last night. I hate pitting our keepers against each other but that's sport with a single position in a team. No footage but I remember Langerak doing something similar to lose the game late against Hannover. The Brazil friendly and Iraq away game has plenty showing Langerak also got caught out with the national team. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9NsLCENI6mwhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7CgeOsUZpsESome will say that's all in the past yet there's no way Ryan was going to be displaced in the now after having led the team all this time. Arnold stuck with what he knew, which is a fairly common thing. There is absolutely nothing to be gained with "shoulda coulda and woulda" at this stage. What is a fact is Ryan lead the stats for most clean sheets for an Australian goalkeeper at the World Cup.
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The problem I have with Langerak is for a large portion of his career he was happy to warm the pine at Dortmund when he was never ever going to get the #1 under Klopp.
It sort of felt like Mitch was happy to just collect his paycheck whilst sitting on the bench.
Whereas Ryan has constantly pushed himself. The ultimate professional. He may not be the Goalkeeper we were all hoping for, but his leadership sets an example to the rest of the team.
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+x+x+xApparently Ryan’s agent said Ryan will be looking for a move away from Copenhagen in the next transfer period. Beşiktaş was good for Loris Sven Karius. Turkey maybe be an option to rebuild Ryans reputation and get the play time he needs. Ryan had his Karius moment last night. I hate pitting our keepers against each other but that's sport with a single position in a team. No footage but I remember Langerak doing something similar to lose the game late against Hannover. The Brazil friendly and Iraq away game has plenty showing Langerak also got caught out with the national team. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9NsLCENI6mwhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7CgeOsUZpsESome will say that's all in the past yet there's no way Ryan was going to be displaced in the now after having led the team all this time. Arnold stuck with what he knew, which is a fairly common thing. There is absolutely nothing to be gained with "shoulda coulda and woulda" at this stage. What is a fact is Ryan lead the stats for most clean sheets for an Australian goalkeeper at the World Cup. Agree with a lot of this. Despite my fristration with him at times
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+xThe problem I have with Langerak is for a large portion of his career he was happy to warm the pine at Dortmund when he was never ever going to get the #1 under Klopp. It sort of felt like Mitch was happy to just collect his paycheck whilst sitting on the bench. Whereas Ryan has constantly pushed himself. The ultimate professional. He may not be the Goalkeeper we were all hoping for, but his leadership sets an example to the rest of the team. Langerak was a decade late. He was in the league during the time of peak keepers. There are a lot now at German clubs where I just shake my head. Kobel is just another hyped up one. Burki was the same. Error after error but they're 'cool guys.' Langerak made some ridiculous career decisions and was also victim of stupid calls by his clubs. Stuttgart had the Polish keeper who kept getting found out. Langerak finally got the chance and did well in the second division. Stuttgart then brought in Zieler who didn't particularly justify his purchase.
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+x+x+xApparently Ryan’s agent said Ryan will be looking for a move away from Copenhagen in the next transfer period. Beşiktaş was good for Loris Sven Karius. Turkey maybe be an option to rebuild Ryans reputation and get the play time he needs. Ryan had his Karius moment last night. I hate pitting our keepers against each other but that's sport with a single position in a team. No footage but I remember Langerak doing something similar to lose the game late against Hannover. The Brazil friendly and Iraq away game has plenty showing Langerak also got caught out with the national team. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9NsLCENI6mwhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7CgeOsUZpsESome will say that's all in the past yet there's no way Ryan was going to be displaced in the now after having led the team all this time. Arnold stuck with what he knew, which is a fairly common thing. There is absolutely nothing to be gained with "shoulda coulda and woulda" at this stage. What is a fact is Ryan lead the stats for most clean sheets for an Australian goalkeeper at the World Cup. That's right yet everyone's getting on the told ya so bus and it's insufferable. We simply don't know and never will. One final word. Langerak passed up opportunity and the Covid argument doesn't stick as Taggart and Duke got around it. What can be said is 'well Mitch, you did opt out a time which doesn't help your case.' Anyway we've just ended our most successful world cup ever. Hearts said yes and heads so now. How great it has been. Plenty of time to discuss all the matters.
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+x+x+xApparently Ryan’s agent said Ryan will be looking for a move away from Copenhagen in the next transfer period. Beşiktaş was good for Loris Sven Karius. Turkey maybe be an option to rebuild Ryans reputation and get the play time he needs. Ryan had his Karius moment last night. I hate pitting our keepers against each other but that's sport with a single position in a team. No footage but I remember Langerak doing something similar to lose the game late against Hannover. The Brazil friendly and Iraq away game has plenty showing Langerak also got caught out with the national team. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9NsLCENI6mwhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7CgeOsUZpsESome will say that's all in the past yet there's no way Ryan was going to be displaced in the now after having led the team all this time. Arnold stuck with what he knew, which is a fairly common thing. What is a fact is Ryan lead the stats for most clean sheets for an Australian goalkeeper at the World Cup. It's a pretty small sample size. Not that it really means anything, but you can also say he's slipped the most goals of any Australian keeper at the world cup. I think it's pretty simple - Langerak would have saved the first and the second wouldn't have happened. I have doubts whether the result would have changed for us (because they would have kept coming and we wouldn't have pushed so hard), but it certainly would have helped us along.
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