POLL - 2025 Expansion race NST vs APL


POLL - 2025 Expansion race NST vs APL

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POLL - 2025 Expansion race NST vs APL

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Monoethnic Social Club - 22 Nov 2023 3:34 PM
SWandP - 22 Nov 2023 2:08 PM

Do you mean the Initial Southern Cross bid when despite almost being assured by FFA of a license a caravan salesman's bid appeared at the 11th hour and despite monetary offers being the same, a "fresh mainstream" consortium was awarded the 2nd Melb franchise?
Or perhaps when Heart was being flogged off to all and sundry (like Newcastle and Perth are now) and the only financial offer on the table was from South Melbourne ... I guess a foreign "group" smelling of oil was preferable to tru blu dinki di second generation Aussies ..

Or maybe the Newcastle license, which to date South have been the only financial offer on the table, rejected twice.

Or the recent 2018 expansion bid, 20mill on the table from Ross Pelligra, ready made stadium, academy, womens team, fanbase, membership and a bid document that Fox execs and Deloitte thought was a shoe in.....  lost out to..... welll no comment anymore.

Money hasnt been a problem apart from 2005 when, on our knees from having no competition to play in for two season and no mean of income we where in no position to bid to joint the new Aleague  (despite being politely told to not bother bidding anyway) .. Funny how a "non-effendiffnik franchise was funded by FFA and despite not putting any money down managed to set up a whole club in months ... but eh well maybe it was because they had better history.


Would you care to explain what, exactly, about my club has stopped ALL of these bids ........ ? Happy to hear a reasonable answer that doesn't involve the number of vowels in my surname.

You are asking the questions but you not answering why?
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robbos - 22 Nov 2023 3:46 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 22 Nov 2023 3:34 PM

You are asking the questions but you not answering why?

No I want you and your mate to come right out, in 2023, and say it buddy... 
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Self Announced clubs interested in a 2025 start

1. Melbourne Knights
2. Brisbane United
3. Sunshine Coast Fire
4. Gold Coast United
5. Heidelberg

https://www.hufc.com.au/nst-update/

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6. South Hobart

We are currently waiting on formal feedback regarding our proposal and our intention is to engage in Football Australia’s formal application process early in the new year. South Hobart FC will continue to provide further updates in due course.


https://www.southhobartfc.com/news-1/update-on-bid-for-the-nst

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numklpkgulftumch - 24 Nov 2023 3:57 PM
6. South Hobart

We are currently waiting on formal feedback regarding our proposal and our intention is to engage in Football Australia’s formal application process early in the new year. South Hobart FC will continue to provide further updates in due course.


https://www.southhobartfc.com/news-1/update-on-bid-for-the-nst

That would be an amazing inclusion.



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vincenzogold - 24 Nov 2023 4:08 PM
numklpkgulftumch - 24 Nov 2023 3:57 PM

That would be an amazing inclusion.



If all 6 are in that is an AMAZING league :)
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Monoethnic Social Club - 24 Nov 2023 4:24 PM
vincenzogold - 24 Nov 2023 4:08 PM

If all 6 are in that is an AMAZING league :)

Just looked up grounds in Hobart and they are all shit oval grounds.
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vincenzogold - 24 Nov 2023 4:32 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 24 Nov 2023 4:24 PM

Just looked up grounds in Hobart and they are all shit oval grounds.

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Glenorchy Knights seem to have a tasty little setup :)
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Self Announced clubs interested in a 2025 start

1. Melbourne Knights
2. Brisbane United
3. Sunshine Coast Fire
4. Gold Coast United
5. Heidelberg
6. South Hobart
7. Rockdale



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always wondered why they weren't in the mix in the first place.
good to see the official intent now, I'm sure they will be accepted in time as JJ quoted talks are going on watch this space coming months.


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LFC. - 28 Nov 2023 4:09 PM
always wondered why they weren't in the mix in the first place.
good to see the official intent now, I'm sure they will be accepted in time as JJ quoted talks are going on watch this space coming months.

It's right there in their statement
They entered the RFP phase but chose not to submit an RFP because of 'more questions than answers" risking compromising financial viability

They weren't rejected, FA have to provide more and better information for them to actually consider applying
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yes too true - I said nothing of rejection though but I didn't consider the more questions to answers comment.
Funny that 8 Clubs still went ahead for they would have been or felt the same wouldn't you think of more questions to answers.
Anyway I'm sure the answers will come for as mentioned they are a shoe in imo.
Were certainly gonna have a stacked Sydney NST by the look of it to start with.
Not surprised.

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https://www.theinnersanctum.com.au/how-one-of-australias-best-football-academies-is-left-without-a-league/

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On 10 October, Sunshine Coast FC received notice from Football Queensland (FQ), through their legal representatives, that they would not be invited to submit applications for participation licences for 2024.

This effectively ended the club’s affiliation with FQ and left them without any state league competitions to participate in.

Eight days later, FQ released their provisional declaration of leagues with Sunshine Coast FC nowhere to be found.

However, a new club appeared that Wilkes believes is a direct replacement for Sunshine Coast FC.

“Football Queensland then confirm that Sunshine Coast United is a new entity run by Football Queensland, and they will be entering the advanced league pathway stream,” said Wilkes.

“We knew about Sunshine Coast United prior because [FQ] did exactly the same in the early part of 2020 when we had female SAP (skill acquisition phase) players in the under 9s to under 12s.

“This Sunshine Coast United cropped up and took all of our junior girls, causing our SAP girls program to cease, to shut down.

“After 12 months, that Sunshine Coast United disappeared … so they’ve had form on this.”



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numklpkgulftumch - 29 Nov 2023 12:09 PM
On 10 October, Sunshine Coast FC received notice from Football Queensland (FQ), through their legal representatives, that they would not be invited to submit applications for participation licences for 2024.

This effectively ended the club’s affiliation with FQ and left them without any state league competitions to participate in.

Eight days later, FQ released their provisional declaration of leagues with Sunshine Coast FC nowhere to be found.

However, a new club appeared that Wilkes believes is a direct replacement for Sunshine Coast FC.

“Football Queensland then confirm that Sunshine Coast United is a new entity run by Football Queensland, and they will be entering the advanced league pathway stream,” said Wilkes.

“We knew about Sunshine Coast United prior because [FQ] did exactly the same in the early part of 2020 when we had female SAP (skill acquisition phase) players in the under 9s to under 12s.

“This Sunshine Coast United cropped up and took all of our junior girls, causing our SAP girls program to cease, to shut down.

“After 12 months, that Sunshine Coast United disappeared … so they’ve had form on this.”



This shit makes me so mad....... Im sure there may be two sides to the story but from the outside it looks like the former Brisbane City Aleague Bid poster boy is playing God up there and needs to have his head booted in.... Pays himslef an obscene salary to pretty much protect his mates investments... all the while kiddies are being fleeced to play NPL..... 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 29 Nov 2023 2:14 PM
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This shit makes me so mad....... Im sure there may be two sides to the story but from the outside it looks like the former Brisbane City Aleague Bid poster boy is playing God up there and needs to have his head booted in.... Pays himslef an obscene salary to pretty much protect his mates investments... all the while kiddies are being fleeced to play NPL..... 

Nick Galatas on Qld ABC yesterday about the Football Queensland ding dong

https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/south-queensland-drive/drive/103145052

starts at 1:04:20 goes about 7 minutes.


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numklpkgulftumch - 30 Nov 2023 6:27 PM
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Nick Galatas on Qld ABC yesterday about the Football Queensland ding dong

https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/south-queensland-drive/drive/103145052

starts at 1:04:20 goes about 7 minutes.


It just keeps getting better doesn't it?  
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Monoethnic Social Club - 1 Dec 2023 9:38 AM
numklpkgulftumch - 30 Nov 2023 6:27 PM

It just keeps getting better doesn't it?  

It does ... or doesn't

Depends which way you look at it.



https://x.com/RobCavallucci/status/1731579643638252031?s=20

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numklpkgulftumch - 4 Dec 2023 6:50 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 1 Dec 2023 9:38 AM

It does ... or doesn't

Depends which way you look at it.



https://x.com/RobCavallucci/status/1731579643638252031?s=20

OMFG.... hahahaha @Muz and @tsf please tell me the language this clown uses doesn't remind you of a certain lower case individual preaching in the Extra time threads? hahahahahahahahah 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 5 Dec 2023 9:42 AM
numklpkgulftumch - 4 Dec 2023 6:50 PM

OMFG.... hahahaha @Muz and @tsf please tell me the language this clown uses doesn't remind you of a certain lower case individual preaching in the Extra time threads? hahahahahahahahah 

So this might be where still not having a Full Pyramid bites in the arse

Looks like what Cavallucci is getting at, is that clubs that just decide to leave the FQ pyramid can't chose where they re-enter if they ever want to come back.

Sunshine, Knights, GCU, Olympic etc haven't earnt promotion, they've just looked at fucking off to another stand alone competition for as long as they chose or get relegated.

Re Sunshine Coast situation,
They've been kicked out of FQPL1 (below the NPLQ) for reasons unknown at this point.
Now, just because FA might let them in to the NST, that doesn't mean that they get straight entry to the NPLQ when Relegation starts operating. 
That hasn't been worked through or agreed.
They haven't earnt their place in the NPL to begin with, even if they can afford to buy in to the NST 2025

Re Brisbane United
BU has never been in the FQ pyramid, never earnt their place anywhere, just stumping up cash
So the FQ pyramid is supposed to let them parachute in from above whilst everyone else has to work their way up ?
And that's not even bringing up how they might end up in the same division as the Strikers or Wolves. (something that's always concerned me and haven't seen addressed yet)


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Self Announced clubs interested in a 2025 start

1. Melbourne Knights
2. Brisbane United
3. Sunshine Coast Fire
4. Gold Coast United
5. Heidelberg
6. South Hobart
7. Rockdale
8. Caroline Springs George Cross

Caroline Springs George Cross FC continues to explore the pathway to the National Second Division

One of Australia's most storied football clubs - Caroline Springs George Cross - has confirmed its steadfast exploration of becoming a foundation member of the National Second Division (NSD) competition heralded by Football Australia and forecast to commence in March 2025. ......

“Our supporters have been enthused in recent times with our success in the iconic Australia Cup and proudly carry their shared Maltese and Australian heritage, creating a cultural tapestry that is woven into the fabric of our club and Melbourne’s burgeoning west,” 

“While there is much work and careful planning to come, our board, members, supporters and other key stakeholders are keenly eyeing further developments from Football Australia in regard to progression of the NSD.


https://www.georgecrossfc.com.au/nsd-media

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So there's 12 clubs already rusted on as initiates into the NSD and a minimum of 8 exploring the possibility of joining. Surely that says more about the health of Football in Australia than what may or may not be happening with the 14th franchise in the APL.
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Hillbilly55 - 20 Dec 2023 3:39 PM
So there's 12 clubs already rusted on as initiates into the NSD and a minimum of 8 exploring the possibility of joining. Surely that says more about the health of Football in Australia than what may or may not be happening with the 14th franchise in the APL.

no, 8 & 8
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numklpkgulftumch - 20 Dec 2023 4:31 PM
Hillbilly55 - 20 Dec 2023 3:39 PM

no, 8 & 8

Loving the interest but sort of disappointed that no SA or WA clubs have put there hand up as yet... 

ACT I sort of understand as it sounds like they are going hell for leather to get into the Aleague.... but we desperately NEED a SA club at least in the first season in my opinion, then let the cards fall where they may.
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numklpkgulftumch - 20 Dec 2023 3:02 PM
Self Announced clubs interested in a 2025 start

1. Melbourne Knights
2. Brisbane United
3. Sunshine Coast Fire
4. Gold Coast United
5. Heidelberg
6. South Hobart
7. Rockdale
8. Caroline Springs George Cross

Caroline Springs George Cross FC continues to explore the pathway to the National Second Division

One of Australia's most storied football clubs - Caroline Springs George Cross - has confirmed its steadfast exploration of becoming a foundation member of the National Second Division (NSD) competition heralded by Football Australia and forecast to commence in March 2025. ......

“Our supporters have been enthused in recent times with our success in the iconic Australia Cup and proudly carry their shared Maltese and Australian heritage, creating a cultural tapestry that is woven into the fabric of our club and Melbourne’s burgeoning west,” 

“While there is much work and careful planning to come, our board, members, supporters and other key stakeholders are keenly eyeing further developments from Football Australia in regard to progression of the NSD.


https://www.georgecrossfc.com.au/nsd-media

Well that rules out Avondale playing at City Vista I guess.... C'mon the Georgies !!!!!!!!!!! Those mad arse Maltese are unreal.... 


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numklpkgulftumch - 20 Dec 2023 4:31 PM
Hillbilly55 - 20 Dec 2023 3:39 PM

no, 8 & 8

Oh, yes, I am getting over excited. 16 as a starting point would still be grand.
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Monoethnic Social Club - 20 Dec 2023 4:55 PM
numklpkgulftumch - 20 Dec 2023 3:02 PM

Well that rules out Avondale playing at City Vista I guess.... C'mon the Georgies !!!!!!!!!!! Those mad arse Maltese are unreal.... 


Hehe more mad vibe in the NST !



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Monoethnic Social Club - 20 Dec 2023 4:52 PM
numklpkgulftumch - 20 Dec 2023 4:31 PM

Loving the interest but sort of disappointed that no SA or WA clubs have put there hand up as yet... 

ACT I sort of understand as it sounds like they are going hell for leather to get into the Aleague.... but we desperately NEED a SA club at least in the first season in my opinion, then let the cards fall where they may.

Would love adelaide city to return
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If we can get 16 for 2025 can have pandr to the npl quite quickly
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