POLL - 2025 Expansion race NST vs APL


POLL - 2025 Expansion race NST vs APL

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POLL - 2025 Expansion race NST vs APL

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numklpkgulftumch - 11 Apr 2024 11:24 AM
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Weird

FQ send them legal letters in Oct saying they're out with no explanation

Then a month later FQ say there's nothing legal, and they're invited in

and SCFC haven't bothered to re-enter

Wouldn't mind actually knowing what the facts are behind the story, but no-one knows or will publish

Yeah a bit suss.... I wonder why they didnt get an NST berth too, considering they seem to have cash to splash?
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shame about melbourne knights. One of the few clubs with their own stadium

outrageous if sunshine coast dont get in since they have paid a price
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numklpkgulftumch - 21 Nov 2023 5:23 PM
Knights still want in,

dunno how much wiggle room each side has

and dunno what the 'key elements' are yet

https://www.melbourneknights.com.au/news/club-statement-on-the-announcement-of-the-national-second-tier-competition/

So 5 months ago it was "we remain hopeful of a positive outcome ...our inclusion to the National Second Tier in 2025" bahahahaha


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Melbourne Knights have rejected the NSD again, not surprised to be honest. 





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Beretta - 12 Apr 2024 8:02 AM
Melbourne Knights have rejected the NSD again, not surprised to be honest. 





Any idea what makes their stance on this so different to Sydney Croatia mate?

Its gonna be shit not having Knights in the league... I mean sure South will ALWAYS get drawn them in early stages of the Australia Cup but going to Somers Street for the derby is one of the highlights of every season. 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 12 Apr 2024 9:38 AM
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Any idea what makes their stance on this so different to Sydney Croatia mate?

Its gonna be shit not having Knights in the league... I mean sure South will ALWAYS get drawn them in early stages of the Australia Cup but going to Somers Street for the derby is one of the highlights of every season. 

If Comparing the two clubs Bids for the NSD, i'd say its purely a Financial choice. 
Its a financial risk the knights are not prepared to take, whereas Sydney United will. 
United does have strong investors, sponsors and a wealthy president. 
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Interesting that Knights say it should be delayed. The can has already been kicked down the road once, I can't see what difference another 12 months or so would make.
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The word I have from someone heavily involved in the club is that they simply don’t have the funds. The couldn’t absorb any kind of faltering of the comp and if that were to happen they’d be in an untenable financial situation, therefor have decided to observe from a distance for now. 

I agree, it’s a blow for the comp, they’re one of the clubs I’d have said were needed for it to be a true second div and give it the best chance of success. As noted above their absence will be felt particularly in Melbourne where there will be fewer big matches to market

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Beretta - 12 Apr 2024 10:51 AM
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If Comparing the two clubs Bids for the NSD, i'd say its purely a Financial choice. 
Its a financial risk the knights are not prepared to take, whereas Sydney United will. 
United does have strong investors, sponsors and a wealthy president. 

I hope they get their shit sorted...  really want them a part of this thing.
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Glenardo - 12 Apr 2024 11:26 AM
The word I have from someone heavily involved in the club is that they simply don’t have the funds. The couldn’t absorb any kind of faltering of the comp and if that were to happen they’d be in an untenable financial situation, therefor have decided to observe from a distance for now. 

I agree, it’s a blow for the comp, they’re one of the clubs I’d have said were needed for it to be a true second div and give it the best chance of success. As noted above their absence will be felt particularly in Melbourne where there will be fewer big matches to market

Nothing wrong with riding it out to see which way the wind blows in a season or two I suppose... Just really grates that Avondale are in it and not Knights.... 
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Monoethnic Social Club - 12 Apr 2024 12:29 PM
Glenardo - 12 Apr 2024 11:26 AM

Nothing wrong with riding it out to see which way the wind blows in a season or two I suppose... Just really grates that Avondale are in it and not Knights.... 

You seem to have given up on P&R being how you get into this League ?


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numklpkgulftumch - 12 Apr 2024 12:59 PM
Monoethnic Social Club - 12 Apr 2024 12:29 PM

You seem to have given up on P&R being how you get into this League ?


Not at all... Fact is there is currently no mechanism for P/R to happen to/from NPL and from what I understand the bottleneck is with the state federations not being able to clarify what it is they want to do. In VIC the "understanding" is that if even someone like Preston (who are currently not in VPL1 - old NPL 2) fall from NST they would be relegated into NPL VIC (top tier) however someone like Sunshine Coast (if they get in of course) would be relegated to........ where? Cavalucci is playing hard ball, forcing them to compete in English youth leagues ffs.... 

Without South and Avondale, Knights will be a heavy hitter in NPL Victoria and, should they have an avenue to be promoted, I would guess they would build a squad to fairly easily do that.. 



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Monoethnic Social Club - 12 Apr 2024 1:35 PM
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Not at all... Fact is there is currently no mechanism for P/R to happen to/from NPL and from what I understand the bottleneck is with the state federations not being able to clarify what it is they want to do. In VIC the "understanding" is that if even someone like Preston (who are currently not in VPL1 - old NPL 2) fall from NST they would be relegated into NPL VIC (top tier) however someone like Sunshine Coast (if they get in of course) would be relegated to........ where? Cavalucci is playing hard ball, forcing them to compete in English youth leagues ffs.... 

Without South and Avondale, Knights will be a heavy hitter in NPL Victoria and, should they have an avenue to be promoted, I would guess they would build a squad to fairly easily do that.. 



Yep, so relying on Expansion to get in is risky, and may not be available ever

and then the P/R mechanism (whenever it appears) is unlikely to be just winning NPLV

There'll hopefully be the other NPL champions to compete against for any available place(s)

All-in-all if this League turns out to be a goer, it might very well pay to be in on the ground floor

or it might turn out to be another closed Lemon, Knights breathing a sigh of relief




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numklpkgulftumch - 12 Apr 2024 1:48 PM
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Yep, so relying on Expansion to get in is risky, and may not be available ever

and then the P/R mechanism (whenever it appears) is unlikely to be just winning NPLV

There'll hopefully be the other NPL champions to compete against for any available place(s)

All-in-all if this League turns out to be a goer, it might very well pay to be in on the ground floor

or it might turn out to be another closed Lemon, Knights breathing a sigh of relief




Your guess is as good as mine.

Our board and president are pretty optimistic about the whole thing ... could be rose coloured glasses .... dont really know until we know I suppose... 

If it doesnt work thats it ... no two bites at the cherry.
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This from smfcmike

https://twitter.com/smfcmike/status/1779469086759723074?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

I didnt catch the 3XY sports show last night but SMFC pres was on and states that:

#BREAKING: On the #3XY 📻 🇬🇷 Sports Program, @SMFC President Nick Maikousis indicated that he was extremely confident that there will be additional teams announced for the #NSD/T following the full day meeting of foundation clubs on Thursday which included former FRANK’S @FootballAUS Chairman Anter Isaac.Apparently the name of the #NSD/T league was also shown to the foundation eight clubs. Sponsorship & TV broadcasting were also discussed.Nick indicated that in approximately 4-6 weeks this will all become public information.

Numpkle, time to start your countdown clock ... set it for 6 weeks please :)
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numklpkgulftumch - 15 Apr 2024 10:32 AM

P.S

No way the name will stay secret that long
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numklpkgulftumch - 15 Apr 2024 10:34 AM
numklpkgulftumch - 15 Apr 2024 10:32 AM

P.S

No way the name will stay secret that long

Hahah thanks for the timer. You're right we'll hear a few things later this week, early next I predict,

Ill try and suss out the name for ya, early gossip is Australian Championship .... BTW the sponsor (if true) will blow your mind :)
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Monoethnic Social Club - 15 Apr 2024 10:43 AM
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Ill try and suss out the name for ya, early gossip is Australian Championship .

Hoping it's the Australian Premier League, for the lols
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cheeez sure is a roller coaster of news the last number of posts though am I surprised, nope.
Glad to see your Prtez quoting as such MSC, hope this turns out on the additional Clubs, wonder IF FA have decreased or come to agreement reducing costs ? who knows at this stage.
Looking forward to hear who this sponser is.


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Monoethnic Social Club - 15 Apr 2024 10:43 AM
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Hahah thanks for the timer. You're right we'll hear a few things later this week, early next I predict,

Ill try and suss out the name for ya, early gossip is Australian Championship .... BTW the sponsor (if true) will blow your mind :)

Is the sponsor Westfield by any chance? 😂👍
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HYUNDAI :) maybe FOX Sports lol....


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LFC. - 15 Apr 2024 1:30 PM
cheeez sure is a roller coaster of news the last number of posts though am I surprised, nope.
Glad to see your Prtez quoting as such MSC, hope this turns out on the additional Clubs, wonder IF FA have decreased or come to agreement reducing costs ? who knows at this stage.
Looking forward to hear who this sponser is.

NICK's Kebabs I hear.
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Is the sponsor Westfield by any chance? 😂👍

Dude?!?!?!?!?! Thats dark even by my standards...lol too soon bud, too soon
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robbos - 15 Apr 2024 3:34 PM
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NICK's Kebabs I hear.

Sounds like somebody doesnt really want a second division in this country to commence?

Why Robbo? Its not going to take anything away from your franchise league....  except quite a few supporters. 
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Is the sponsor Westfield by any chance? 😂👍

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LFC. - 15 Apr 2024 2:43 PM
HYUNDAI :) maybe FOX Sports lol....

You should hear some of the CRAZY player signing rumours Ive heard recently. HAHAHAHAHA Some of your clubs up there are going ALL IN!!!!!!!!
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Hoping it's the Australian Premier League, for the lols

Me too .. APL would be amazing .... hahahahahahahaah
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With just 1 dollar a day, you can sponsor a footballer and provide him with running water and shelter

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He can then pay the fucking rego
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With just 1 dollar a day, you can sponsor a footballer and provide him with running water and shelter

World Vision | Get Every One in the Picture

He can then pay the fucking rego

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