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+x+xGreat result. Perfect in fact. Ive always said we need to routinely go into games with the goal of scoring 4 or 5 tries and kerp the opposition to 2 or 3. It means you win the game by the 60-70th minute and the fans enjoy the game. Tracey has been exceptional since going to FB. He pokes his nose and gets quick PTB from his returns, he is good at organising the defence, and confident enough to play in the in-goal. His link play is improving very well. Burton also very good today, as was the Fox. I wasnt impressed with the Kennel crowd cheering when the announcer mentioned Hutch coming off for Taaffe. Hutch has been important to the teams defensive patterns and execution and adequate enough at halfback. Our team is different to Penrith, Eels, Storm, etc in that our halves dont actually create our points. Our points generally come from individual plays most of the time.. This means we are less reliant on our halves to create things specifically. This means, our halves just have to feed the ball to the danger players. On this basis, Hutch has been ok also. He does hog the ball once in a while but what that does is ensure the defence doesn't just slide off from him all game, so brings in variability. Im not sure we can keep a bench of Hayward and Taaffe for too many games though. Losing Patolo early had our forwards working overtime from the outset. Against a top 4 team and in a game where we dont dominate field position, that can mean disaster. CC will need to rethink this strategy. But all in all, a very pleasing performance and result. We can now rest with the BYE knowing another win or two would get us into the top 8 amd then who knows? Reserve grade had a big win,Sexton, Skelton and Hello Kitty seemed to impress. We probably have Mann and Preston back after the bye. So team selection for the next game will be interesting. I would probably replace Patolo and Taaffe with Mann and Preston., keep the defensive edge. If Hutch is suspended, replace him with Sexton. Replacements seem logical... Re Manncrush and Presto... I hope Curran stayz at 13... Hutch will be a fine only... But would be lucky to hold his place unless running on the 4th nearly all the time is CCs game plan...
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+xGreat result. Perfect in fact. Ive always said we need to routinely go into games with the goal of scoring 4 or 5 tries and kerp the opposition to 2 or 3. It means you win the game by the 60-70th minute and the fans enjoy the game. Tracey has been exceptional since going to FB. He pokes his nose and gets quick PTB from his returns, he is good at organising the defence, and confident enough to play in the in-goal. His link play is improving very well. Burton also very good today, as was the Fox. I wasnt impressed with the Kennel crowd cheering when the announcer mentioned Hutch coming off for Taaffe. Hutch has been important to the teams defensive patterns and execution and adequate enough at halfback. Our team is different to Penrith, Eels, Storm, etc in that our halves dont actually create our points. Our points generally come from individual plays most of the time.. This means we are less reliant on our halves to create things specifically. This means, our halves just have to feed the ball to the danger players. On this basis, Hutch has been ok also. He does hog the ball once in a while but what that does is ensure the defence doesn't just slide off from him all game, so brings in variability. Im not sure we can keep a bench of Hayward and Taaffe for too many games though. Losing Patolo early had our forwards working overtime from the outset. Against a top 4 team and in a game where we dont dominate field position, that can mean disaster. CC will need to rethink this strategy. But all in all, a very pleasing performance and result. We can now rest with the BYE knowing another win or two would get us into the top 8 amd then who knows? I know right... Thank Dog they listened to you and scrapped the plan of scoring less points than the opposition... It rarely worked... Hutchs D is overrated... He runs too much... And the only good early ball he gives is to the only real half on the field... He's done literally nothing for Critter and Kiraz in attack... You spent years bagging our 4th tackle option and now you think our 7 rarely taking the right option is a positive...
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+x+xI will virtually personally deliver a virtual carton of your choice of beer to the first person who can name the last time we had a positive f/a post round one of a season. I reckon it’s somewhere before about…. 2016? A virtual carton of beer awaits the correct answer. Good luck. BTW. A positive f/a, which I’m confident this team can achieve, gets you in the semis every year bar one I believe in NRL history. Most times, very mostly most times, into the top six. No prediction there, just saying where this team has the potential to achieve. It is the first time since 2011 that we won our first 3 home games. So our losses were Parra away (ref normally favours Parra), Sharks away, Souths (home ground but away) Storm away. Parra, Sharks and Storm are 3 tough away games. We improved each week, I think our round 7 team would have beaten Souths. Fairly unlucky not to have one more win. Preston and Mann should be back after the bye. Over the years has been impossible to beat South’s on a Good Friday with Sutton as Ref. It’s like this is a day setup for a South’s win . Hopefully we flog them later on this year .,
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+x+xGreat result. Perfect in fact. Ive always said we need to routinely go into games with the goal of scoring 4 or 5 tries and kerp the opposition to 2 or 3. It means you win the game by the 60-70th minute and the fans enjoy the game. Tracey has been exceptional since going to FB. He pokes his nose and gets quick PTB from his returns, he is good at organising the defence, and confident enough to play in the in-goal. His link play is improving very well. Burton also very good today, as was the Fox. I wasnt impressed with the Kennel crowd cheering when the announcer mentioned Hutch coming off for Taaffe. Hutch has been important to the teams defensive patterns and execution and adequate enough at halfback. Our team is different to Penrith, Eels, Storm, etc in that our halves dont actually create our points. Our points generally come from individual plays most of the time.. This means we are less reliant on our halves to create things specifically. This means, our halves just have to feed the ball to the danger players. On this basis, Hutch has been ok also. He does hog the ball once in a while but what that does is ensure the defence doesn't just slide off from him all game, so brings in variability. Im not sure we can keep a bench of Hayward and Taaffe for too many games though. Losing Patolo early had our forwards working overtime from the outset. Against a top 4 team and in a game where we dont dominate field position, that can mean disaster. CC will need to rethink this strategy. But all in all, a very pleasing performance and result. We can now rest with the BYE knowing another win or two would get us into the top 8 amd then who knows? I know right... Thank Dog they listened to you and scrapped the plan of scoring less points than the opposition... It rarely worked... Hutchs D is overrated... He runs too much... And the only good early ball he gives is to the only real half on the field... He's done literally nothing for Critter and Kiraz in attack... You spent years bagging our 4th tackle option and now you think our 7 rarely taking the right option is a positive... Its because when you strip down our attacking gameplan, its clear that we are trying to go around teams. And on both sides of the field. The way we are doing this, is simply link passing by our halves to danger men in Kikau, Xerri, Fox or Critta, Kiraz. Tracey's ability to chime in is hugely important. As is the straightened up runs from Hutch, Curran and Salmon. As i mentioned, it keeps the defence from sliding easily all the time and gives those outside backs that little bit of extra room to beat their man one on one. Its still abit of a one trick pony play. It wont be enough to beat the top 4 teams on a regular basis. But it keeps us consistent and gives confidence. I agree Hutch overplays his hand with those runs. But its not the end of the world. He is simply making up for what Burton is not doing (running) although Burton is starting to run more the last few weeks also. Hutch is not the long term answer at half. But he's doing a good job atm in helping us string afew wins together and find our place in this comp.
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Anasta said that he talked to different people on the dogs coaching staff. And said the reason Hutch is in the team is his voice.
Apparently Burton is very quiet and not much of a talker. Hutch obviously is. Sexton also is not much of a talker. Young O’Neill apparently is.
Most team sports require a strong voice in the team. Players in every sport tend to focus on what they are doing and forget to voice what they are doing to their team mates. Having a halfback in League that tells the forwards what to do is very important.
I assume. Until Sexy starts talking more on the field he won’t be a good partner for Burton.
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+x+xGreat result. Perfect in fact. Ive always said we need to routinely go into games with the goal of scoring 4 or 5 tries and kerp the opposition to 2 or 3. It means you win the game by the 60-70th minute and the fans enjoy the game. Tracey has been exceptional since going to FB. He pokes his nose and gets quick PTB from his returns, he is good at organising the defence, and confident enough to play in the in-goal. His link play is improving very well. Burton also very good today, as was the Fox. I wasnt impressed with the Kennel crowd cheering when the announcer mentioned Hutch coming off for Taaffe. Hutch has been important to the teams defensive patterns and execution and adequate enough at halfback. Our team is different to Penrith, Eels, Storm, etc in that our halves dont actually create our points. Our points generally come from individual plays most of the time.. This means we are less reliant on our halves to create things specifically. This means, our halves just have to feed the ball to the danger players. On this basis, Hutch has been ok also. He does hog the ball once in a while but what that does is ensure the defence doesn't just slide off from him all game, so brings in variability. Im not sure we can keep a bench of Hayward and Taaffe for too many games though. Losing Patolo early had our forwards working overtime from the outset. Against a top 4 team and in a game where we dont dominate field position, that can mean disaster. CC will need to rethink this strategy. But all in all, a very pleasing performance and result. We can now rest with the BYE knowing another win or two would get us into the top 8 amd then who knows? I know right... Thank Dog they listened to you and scrapped the plan of scoring less points than the opposition... It rarely worked... Hutchs D is overrated... He runs too much... And the only good early ball he gives is to the only real half on the field... He's done literally nothing for Critter and Kiraz in attack... You spent years bagging our 4th tackle option and now you think our 7 rarely taking the right option is a positive... Marki has a strong case of BDS.
Hutch isn’t the answer. But we need a half that talks.
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Judiciary results are in.
Teddy - Grade 1 tripping - compulsory end of year trip to the Maldives for 2 staying 2 weeks at a luxury resort with all food and drinks included.
Hutch -Grade 1 tripping - suspended for 666 matches or until Dman says that he can come back.
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+xAnasta said that he talked to different people on the dogs coaching staff. And said the reason Hutch is in the team is his voice.
Apparently Burton is very quiet and not much of a talker. Hutch obviously is. Sexton also is not much of a talker. Young O’Neill apparently is.
Most team sports require a strong voice in the team. Players in every sport tend to focus on what they are doing and forget to voice what they are doing to their team mates. Having a halfback in League that tells the forwards what to do is very important.
I assume. Until Sexy starts talking more on the field he won’t be a good partner for Burton. Sexton is making progress in reserve grade. But it seems to me like O'Neill is a natural half and a natural leader, with a lot of skill and smarts. I haven't seen much of Woods but I will not be surprised if he is more of a 5/8. While Hutch is frustrating at times the Souths game was the only time that he possibly cost us a victory. Next game is the Tigers and to win we need to defend well, they are not a strong defensive side, I will be surprised if they beat us in a low scoring grind. Is the Tigers match a good time to try Sexton? We can probably win with Hutch, but we also should be able to win with Sexton, if he is ready and doing the business in reserve grade. I would have Hayward on the bench but if we are trying Sexton then Hutch or Sexton on the bench with the other guy starting. Hutch can play the Hayward role or just cover injuries. What I would do is. 1. Start Preston. 2. Starting props King and Curran. 3. Salmon back to lock. 4. Start Sexton. 5. Bench, Hughes, Morrin, Mann and Hutch. Sexton should get plenty of defensive help in this set up, we should have too much defence for the Tigers attack. Hutch on the bench is an insurance policy and he doesn't deserve to be dropped. He have 2 weeks to prepare, players can train in these positions to help form combinations. Even if it doesn't work out we should still be able to win the match.
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+x+xAnasta said that he talked to different people on the dogs coaching staff. And said the reason Hutch is in the team is his voice.
Apparently Burton is very quiet and not much of a talker. Hutch obviously is. Sexton also is not much of a talker. Young O’Neill apparently is.
Most team sports require a strong voice in the team. Players in every sport tend to focus on what they are doing and forget to voice what they are doing to their team mates. Having a halfback in League that tells the forwards what to do is very important.
I assume. Until Sexy starts talking more on the field he won’t be a good partner for Burton. Sexton is making progress in reserve grade. But it seems to me like O'Neill is a natural half and a natural leader, with a lot of skill and smarts. I haven't seen much of Woods but I will not be surprised if he is more of a 5/8. While Hutch is frustrating at times the Souths game was the only time that he possibly cost us a victory. Next game is the Tigers and to win we need to defend well, they are not a strong defensive side, I will be surprised if they beat us in a low scoring grind. Is the Tigers match a good time to try Sexton? We can probably win with Hutch, but we also should be able to win with Sexton, if he is ready and doing the business in reserve grade. I would have Hayward on the bench but if we are trying Sexton then Hutch or Sexton on the bench with the other guy starting. Hutch can play the Hayward role or just cover injuries. What I would do is. 1. Start Preston. 2. Starting props King and Curran. 3. Salmon back to lock. 4. Start Sexton. 5. Bench, Hughes, Morrin, Mann and Hutch. Sexton should get plenty of defensive help in this set up, we should have too much defence for the Tigers attack. Hutch on the bench is an insurance policy and he doesn't deserve to be dropped. He have 2 weeks to prepare, players can train in these positions to help form combinations. Even if it doesn't work out we should still be able to win the match. I would keep the same team. Lol
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+x+x+xAnasta said that he talked to different people on the dogs coaching staff. And said the reason Hutch is in the team is his voice.
Apparently Burton is very quiet and not much of a talker. Hutch obviously is. Sexton also is not much of a talker. Young O’Neill apparently is.
Most team sports require a strong voice in the team. Players in every sport tend to focus on what they are doing and forget to voice what they are doing to their team mates. Having a halfback in League that tells the forwards what to do is very important.
I assume. Until Sexy starts talking more on the field he won’t be a good partner for Burton. Sexton is making progress in reserve grade. But it seems to me like O'Neill is a natural half and a natural leader, with a lot of skill and smarts. I haven't seen much of Woods but I will not be surprised if he is more of a 5/8. While Hutch is frustrating at times the Souths game was the only time that he possibly cost us a victory. Next game is the Tigers and to win we need to defend well, they are not a strong defensive side, I will be surprised if they beat us in a low scoring grind. Is the Tigers match a good time to try Sexton? We can probably win with Hutch, but we also should be able to win with Sexton, if he is ready and doing the business in reserve grade. I would have Hayward on the bench but if we are trying Sexton then Hutch or Sexton on the bench with the other guy starting. Hutch can play the Hayward role or just cover injuries. What I would do is. 1. Start Preston. 2. Starting props King and Curran. 3. Salmon back to lock. 4. Start Sexton. 5. Bench, Hughes, Morrin, Mann and Hutch. Sexton should get plenty of defensive help in this set up, we should have too much defence for the Tigers attack. Hutch on the bench is an insurance policy and he doesn't deserve to be dropped. He have 2 weeks to prepare, players can train in these positions to help form combinations. Even if it doesn't work out we should still be able to win the match. I would keep the same team. Lol Preston and Mann should come back in if they are fully fit. If we are intending to give Sexton a chance at any stage this is the best time to do it. All depends on how high we are aiming and what the coaches think is our best side. They might wait for an injury / suspension for Hutch to give Sexton a chance. I want to determine our best side soon and build from there, it takes a while to form combinations.
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If Sexton has been playing reserve grade to work on some part of his game it should be fixed by now.
He isn't a young 18 year old, old enough and enough NRL experience to play if he is ready.
I want to try it to settle the issue.
We want to hear more from Dman on the moon landing, Sexton/Hutch is taking up valuable air time.
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+x+x+xGreat result. Perfect in fact. Ive always said we need to routinely go into games with the goal of scoring 4 or 5 tries and kerp the opposition to 2 or 3. It means you win the game by the 60-70th minute and the fans enjoy the game. Tracey has been exceptional since going to FB. He pokes his nose and gets quick PTB from his returns, he is good at organising the defence, and confident enough to play in the in-goal. His link play is improving very well. Burton also very good today, as was the Fox. I wasnt impressed with the Kennel crowd cheering when the announcer mentioned Hutch coming off for Taaffe. Hutch has been important to the teams defensive patterns and execution and adequate enough at halfback. Our team is different to Penrith, Eels, Storm, etc in that our halves dont actually create our points. Our points generally come from individual plays most of the time.. This means we are less reliant on our halves to create things specifically. This means, our halves just have to feed the ball to the danger players. On this basis, Hutch has been ok also. He does hog the ball once in a while but what that does is ensure the defence doesn't just slide off from him all game, so brings in variability. Im not sure we can keep a bench of Hayward and Taaffe for too many games though. Losing Patolo early had our forwards working overtime from the outset. Against a top 4 team and in a game where we dont dominate field position, that can mean disaster. CC will need to rethink this strategy. But all in all, a very pleasing performance and result. We can now rest with the BYE knowing another win or two would get us into the top 8 amd then who knows? I know right... Thank Dog they listened to you and scrapped the plan of scoring less points than the opposition... It rarely worked... Hutchs D is overrated... He runs too much... And the only good early ball he gives is to the only real half on the field... He's done literally nothing for Critter and Kiraz in attack... You spent years bagging our 4th tackle option and now you think our 7 rarely taking the right option is a positive... Marki has a strong case of BDS.
Hutch isn’t the answer. But we need a half that talks. You are right on both counts. I can acknowledge Burton's good performances. I just think they are too far in between and not necessarily 5/8th performances. It is very evident when you are live at the games, the amount of yelling instructions that Hutch does. You dont get to see it all on tv as they often zoom into the ruck at that time. While we are still winning, there will be no change to the halfback spot. We probably have to lose 2-3 in a row before CC feels its worth trying someone else.
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+x+x+xAnasta said that he talked to different people on the dogs coaching staff. And said the reason Hutch is in the team is his voice.
Apparently Burton is very quiet and not much of a talker. Hutch obviously is. Sexton also is not much of a talker. Young O’Neill apparently is.
Most team sports require a strong voice in the team. Players in every sport tend to focus on what they are doing and forget to voice what they are doing to their team mates. Having a halfback in League that tells the forwards what to do is very important.
I assume. Until Sexy starts talking more on the field he won’t be a good partner for Burton. Sexton is making progress in reserve grade. But it seems to me like O'Neill is a natural half and a natural leader, with a lot of skill and smarts. I haven't seen much of Woods but I will not be surprised if he is more of a 5/8. While Hutch is frustrating at times the Souths game was the only time that he possibly cost us a victory. Next game is the Tigers and to win we need to defend well, they are not a strong defensive side, I will be surprised if they beat us in a low scoring grind. Is the Tigers match a good time to try Sexton? We can probably win with Hutch, but we also should be able to win with Sexton, if he is ready and doing the business in reserve grade. I would have Hayward on the bench but if we are trying Sexton then Hutch or Sexton on the bench with the other guy starting. Hutch can play the Hayward role or just cover injuries. What I would do is. 1. Start Preston. 2. Starting props King and Curran. 3. Salmon back to lock. 4. Start Sexton. 5. Bench, Hughes, Morrin, Mann and Hutch. Sexton should get plenty of defensive help in this set up, we should have too much defence for the Tigers attack. Hutch on the bench is an insurance policy and he doesn't deserve to be dropped. He have 2 weeks to prepare, players can train in these positions to help form combinations. Even if it doesn't work out we should still be able to win the match. I would keep the same team. Lol I agree. I dont think we get exposed carrying both Hayward and Taaffe in this game, but im sure we will exposed against other opposition.
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+x+x+x+xGreat result. Perfect in fact. Ive always said we need to routinely go into games with the goal of scoring 4 or 5 tries and kerp the opposition to 2 or 3. It means you win the game by the 60-70th minute and the fans enjoy the game. Tracey has been exceptional since going to FB. He pokes his nose and gets quick PTB from his returns, he is good at organising the defence, and confident enough to play in the in-goal. His link play is improving very well. Burton also very good today, as was the Fox. I wasnt impressed with the Kennel crowd cheering when the announcer mentioned Hutch coming off for Taaffe. Hutch has been important to the teams defensive patterns and execution and adequate enough at halfback. Our team is different to Penrith, Eels, Storm, etc in that our halves dont actually create our points. Our points generally come from individual plays most of the time.. This means we are less reliant on our halves to create things specifically. This means, our halves just have to feed the ball to the danger players. On this basis, Hutch has been ok also. He does hog the ball once in a while but what that does is ensure the defence doesn't just slide off from him all game, so brings in variability. Im not sure we can keep a bench of Hayward and Taaffe for too many games though. Losing Patolo early had our forwards working overtime from the outset. Against a top 4 team and in a game where we dont dominate field position, that can mean disaster. CC will need to rethink this strategy. But all in all, a very pleasing performance and result. We can now rest with the BYE knowing another win or two would get us into the top 8 amd then who knows? I know right... Thank Dog they listened to you and scrapped the plan of scoring less points than the opposition... It rarely worked... Hutchs D is overrated... He runs too much... And the only good early ball he gives is to the only real half on the field... He's done literally nothing for Critter and Kiraz in attack... You spent years bagging our 4th tackle option and now you think our 7 rarely taking the right option is a positive... Marki has a strong case of BDS.
Hutch isn’t the answer. But we need a half that talks. You are right on both counts. I can acknowledge Burton's good performances. I just think they are too far in between and not necessarily 5/8th performances. It is very evident when you are live at the games, the amount of yelling instructions that Hutch does. You dont get to see it all on tv as they often zoom into the ruck at that time. While we are still winning, there will be no change to the halfback spot. We probably have to lose 2-3 in a row before CC feels its worth trying someone else. Burton was great against the Knights . What is different compared to this time last year is our defence I'd way better, we are getting more posession and better field position, Burto is surrounded by better players and isn't the sole attacking force. As a result of more confidence and experience in a stronger team, players are playing better and their natural talents are coming out. The next step in the evolution of our side is making the right edge attack more potent while not weakening our defence. The last try we scored against the Knights was an example of what is possible. I think that it has taken a while for Critter to get up to match Fittness and moving him to the right is working out. I do notice the work Hutch does in attack and defence, it is possible that the team will go worse without him. After 2-3 losses is too late to experiment, we will never know if we don't give Sexton a shot. All depends on whether we are happy to finish 8-12 or if we are aiming higher. I have seen enough to suggest that aiming higher is worth a roll of the dice. The injury to Patolo wasn't ideal but like the Taaffe HIA stand down it forces us to rethink the line-up.
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+x+x+x+xAnasta said that he talked to different people on the dogs coaching staff. And said the reason Hutch is in the team is his voice.
Apparently Burton is very quiet and not much of a talker. Hutch obviously is. Sexton also is not much of a talker. Young O’Neill apparently is.
Most team sports require a strong voice in the team. Players in every sport tend to focus on what they are doing and forget to voice what they are doing to their team mates. Having a halfback in League that tells the forwards what to do is very important.
I assume. Until Sexy starts talking more on the field he won’t be a good partner for Burton. Sexton is making progress in reserve grade. But it seems to me like O'Neill is a natural half and a natural leader, with a lot of skill and smarts. I haven't seen much of Woods but I will not be surprised if he is more of a 5/8. While Hutch is frustrating at times the Souths game was the only time that he possibly cost us a victory. Next game is the Tigers and to win we need to defend well, they are not a strong defensive side, I will be surprised if they beat us in a low scoring grind. Is the Tigers match a good time to try Sexton? We can probably win with Hutch, but we also should be able to win with Sexton, if he is ready and doing the business in reserve grade. I would have Hayward on the bench but if we are trying Sexton then Hutch or Sexton on the bench with the other guy starting. Hutch can play the Hayward role or just cover injuries. What I would do is. 1. Start Preston. 2. Starting props King and Curran. 3. Salmon back to lock. 4. Start Sexton. 5. Bench, Hughes, Morrin, Mann and Hutch. Sexton should get plenty of defensive help in this set up, we should have too much defence for the Tigers attack. Hutch on the bench is an insurance policy and he doesn't deserve to be dropped. He have 2 weeks to prepare, players can train in these positions to help form combinations. Even if it doesn't work out we should still be able to win the match. I would keep the same team. Lol I agree. I dont think we get exposed carrying both Hayward and Taaffe in this game, but im sure we will exposed against other opposition. What we have learned the last couple of games is. Curran and Hughes are great at prop. Salmon is better in the second row. Hayward is good. A young guy like Hayward will often play a couple of NRL games then drop back. What Salmon doesn't offer on the right side is an attacking threat, Preston and Hello Kitty are more of a threat. The next step in the evolution of our side is improving the attack, the defence is good enough, we just need to maintain that standard.
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+x+x+x+xGreat result. Perfect in fact. Ive always said we need to routinely go into games with the goal of scoring 4 or 5 tries and kerp the opposition to 2 or 3. It means you win the game by the 60-70th minute and the fans enjoy the game. Tracey has been exceptional since going to FB. He pokes his nose and gets quick PTB from his returns, he is good at organising the defence, and confident enough to play in the in-goal. His link play is improving very well. Burton also very good today, as was the Fox. I wasnt impressed with the Kennel crowd cheering when the announcer mentioned Hutch coming off for Taaffe. Hutch has been important to the teams defensive patterns and execution and adequate enough at halfback. Our team is different to Penrith, Eels, Storm, etc in that our halves dont actually create our points. Our points generally come from individual plays most of the time.. This means we are less reliant on our halves to create things specifically. This means, our halves just have to feed the ball to the danger players. On this basis, Hutch has been ok also. He does hog the ball once in a while but what that does is ensure the defence doesn't just slide off from him all game, so brings in variability. Im not sure we can keep a bench of Hayward and Taaffe for too many games though. Losing Patolo early had our forwards working overtime from the outset. Against a top 4 team and in a game where we dont dominate field position, that can mean disaster. CC will need to rethink this strategy. But all in all, a very pleasing performance and result. We can now rest with the BYE knowing another win or two would get us into the top 8 amd then who knows? I know right... Thank Dog they listened to you and scrapped the plan of scoring less points than the opposition... It rarely worked... Hutchs D is overrated... He runs too much... And the only good early ball he gives is to the only real half on the field... He's done literally nothing for Critter and Kiraz in attack... You spent years bagging our 4th tackle option and now you think our 7 rarely taking the right option is a positive... Marki has a strong case of BDS.
Hutch isn’t the answer. But we need a half that talks. It is very evident when you are live at the games, the amount of yelling instructions that Hutch does *Went to 1 game...
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+x+x+x+x+xGreat result. Perfect in fact. Ive always said we need to routinely go into games with the goal of scoring 4 or 5 tries and kerp the opposition to 2 or 3. It means you win the game by the 60-70th minute and the fans enjoy the game. Tracey has been exceptional since going to FB. He pokes his nose and gets quick PTB from his returns, he is good at organising the defence, and confident enough to play in the in-goal. His link play is improving very well. Burton also very good today, as was the Fox. I wasnt impressed with the Kennel crowd cheering when the announcer mentioned Hutch coming off for Taaffe. Hutch has been important to the teams defensive patterns and execution and adequate enough at halfback. Our team is different to Penrith, Eels, Storm, etc in that our halves dont actually create our points. Our points generally come from individual plays most of the time.. This means we are less reliant on our halves to create things specifically. This means, our halves just have to feed the ball to the danger players. On this basis, Hutch has been ok also. He does hog the ball once in a while but what that does is ensure the defence doesn't just slide off from him all game, so brings in variability. Im not sure we can keep a bench of Hayward and Taaffe for too many games though. Losing Patolo early had our forwards working overtime from the outset. Against a top 4 team and in a game where we dont dominate field position, that can mean disaster. CC will need to rethink this strategy. But all in all, a very pleasing performance and result. We can now rest with the BYE knowing another win or two would get us into the top 8 amd then who knows? I know right... Thank Dog they listened to you and scrapped the plan of scoring less points than the opposition... It rarely worked... Hutchs D is overrated... He runs too much... And the only good early ball he gives is to the only real half on the field... He's done literally nothing for Critter and Kiraz in attack... You spent years bagging our 4th tackle option and now you think our 7 rarely taking the right option is a positive... Marki has a strong case of BDS.
Hutch isn’t the answer. But we need a half that talks. It is very evident when you are live at the games, the amount of yelling instructions that Hutch does *Went to 1 game... Yeah, but his son has good hearing... Anyway I never thought I would see Marki championing a mainly defensive player who takes one out runs at the opponent's end. I've heard that Tols is very vocal, and he isn't playing halfback anywhere at present 😳 My opinion is the sum of 2 opinions divided by 2. We can't know how Sexton would go until we see him in action in this side. I am much happier about trying that with Preston back. I also trust the coaches to make the right call. My best guess is that Sexton has some boxes he needs to tick and when they are ticked he will get a chance. My impression is that he has ticked a few. Hutch is a leader in the side and if he isn't a starting half will probably be on the bench. If Sexton claims 7, then Hutch, Taaffe and Hayward are all fighting for the same bench spot. If he recaptures his form Mann will be starting lock. Should it work out we will have a gun attacking side,
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+x+x+x+x+x+xGreat result. Perfect in fact. Ive always said we need to routinely go into games with the goal of scoring 4 or 5 tries and kerp the opposition to 2 or 3. It means you win the game by the 60-70th minute and the fans enjoy the game. Tracey has been exceptional since going to FB. He pokes his nose and gets quick PTB from his returns, he is good at organising the defence, and confident enough to play in the in-goal. His link play is improving very well. Burton also very good today, as was the Fox. I wasnt impressed with the Kennel crowd cheering when the announcer mentioned Hutch coming off for Taaffe. Hutch has been important to the teams defensive patterns and execution and adequate enough at halfback. Our team is different to Penrith, Eels, Storm, etc in that our halves dont actually create our points. Our points generally come from individual plays most of the time.. This means we are less reliant on our halves to create things specifically. This means, our halves just have to feed the ball to the danger players. On this basis, Hutch has been ok also. He does hog the ball once in a while but what that does is ensure the defence doesn't just slide off from him all game, so brings in variability. Im not sure we can keep a bench of Hayward and Taaffe for too many games though. Losing Patolo early had our forwards working overtime from the outset. Against a top 4 team and in a game where we dont dominate field position, that can mean disaster. CC will need to rethink this strategy. But all in all, a very pleasing performance and result. We can now rest with the BYE knowing another win or two would get us into the top 8 amd then who knows? I know right... Thank Dog they listened to you and scrapped the plan of scoring less points than the opposition... It rarely worked... Hutchs D is overrated... He runs too much... And the only good early ball he gives is to the only real half on the field... He's done literally nothing for Critter and Kiraz in attack... You spent years bagging our 4th tackle option and now you think our 7 rarely taking the right option is a positive... Marki has a strong case of BDS.
Hutch isn’t the answer. But we need a half that talks. It is very evident when you are live at the games, the amount of yelling instructions that Hutch does *Went to 1 game... Yeah, but his son has good hearing... Anyway I never thought I would see Marki championing a mainly defensive player who takes one out runs at the opponent's end. I've heard that Tols is very vocal, and he isn't playing halfback anywhere at present 😳 #BDS combined with a massive ego does funny things to people...
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'Talking' isn't 7exys issue... It's the last get out clause for those suffering #BDS...
7exys D not as good as Crutch, but I reckon we cover the minor difference with Presto and Critter... And extra points scored on both sides of the park...
It's great to have more opportunity out wide now our pack is at least matching, and occasionally overpowering the opposition in the middle... Gotta earn the right... And we are ..
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+x+x+x+x+xGreat result. Perfect in fact. Ive always said we need to routinely go into games with the goal of scoring 4 or 5 tries and kerp the opposition to 2 or 3. It means you win the game by the 60-70th minute and the fans enjoy the game. Tracey has been exceptional since going to FB. He pokes his nose and gets quick PTB from his returns, he is good at organising the defence, and confident enough to play in the in-goal. His link play is improving very well. Burton also very good today, as was the Fox. I wasnt impressed with the Kennel crowd cheering when the announcer mentioned Hutch coming off for Taaffe. Hutch has been important to the teams defensive patterns and execution and adequate enough at halfback. Our team is different to Penrith, Eels, Storm, etc in that our halves dont actually create our points. Our points generally come from individual plays most of the time.. This means we are less reliant on our halves to create things specifically. This means, our halves just have to feed the ball to the danger players. On this basis, Hutch has been ok also. He does hog the ball once in a while but what that does is ensure the defence doesn't just slide off from him all game, so brings in variability. Im not sure we can keep a bench of Hayward and Taaffe for too many games though. Losing Patolo early had our forwards working overtime from the outset. Against a top 4 team and in a game where we dont dominate field position, that can mean disaster. CC will need to rethink this strategy. But all in all, a very pleasing performance and result. We can now rest with the BYE knowing another win or two would get us into the top 8 amd then who knows? I know right... Thank Dog they listened to you and scrapped the plan of scoring less points than the opposition... It rarely worked... Hutchs D is overrated... He runs too much... And the only good early ball he gives is to the only real half on the field... He's done literally nothing for Critter and Kiraz in attack... You spent years bagging our 4th tackle option and now you think our 7 rarely taking the right option is a positive... Marki has a strong case of BDS.
Hutch isn’t the answer. But we need a half that talks. It is very evident when you are live at the games, the amount of yelling instructions that Hutch does *Went to 1 game... Two actually... You?
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+x'Talking' isn't 7exys issue... It's the last get out clause for those suffering #BDS... 7exys D not as good as Crutch, but I reckon we cover the minor difference with Presto and Critter... And extra points scored on both sides of the park... It's great to have more opportunity out wide now our pack is at least matching, and occasionally overpowering the opposition in the middle... Gotta earn the right... And we are .. I think Hutchison's size is key as to why he stiffens our defence. Opposition players usually look to target smaller players (who are typically halves or wingers). Having big halves in Burton and Hutch means the opposition looks up and doesn't have a player to target. Mahoney, Mann and Morrin are the smallest players. All 3 however dont take a backward step when it comes to tackling. Reed in particular is a demon and tackles player after player. Disrupting this by introducing a smaller half is not particularly what id like to see. I really like the idea of Taaffe in the halves but feel he'll definitely become the player opposition second rowers will look for. We are so close to winning a couple of games and breaking into the tip 8 at the midpoint of the season that i just dont want to risk losing any advantage we have built up. Im ok with experimenting if we lost a couple in a row....
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+x+x+x+xAnasta said that he talked to different people on the dogs coaching staff. And said the reason Hutch is in the team is his voice.
Apparently Burton is very quiet and not much of a talker. Hutch obviously is. Sexton also is not much of a talker. Young O’Neill apparently is.
Most team sports require a strong voice in the team. Players in every sport tend to focus on what they are doing and forget to voice what they are doing to their team mates. Having a halfback in League that tells the forwards what to do is very important.
I assume. Until Sexy starts talking more on the field he won’t be a good partner for Burton. Sexton is making progress in reserve grade. But it seems to me like O'Neill is a natural half and a natural leader, with a lot of skill and smarts. I haven't seen much of Woods but I will not be surprised if he is more of a 5/8. While Hutch is frustrating at times the Souths game was the only time that he possibly cost us a victory. Next game is the Tigers and to win we need to defend well, they are not a strong defensive side, I will be surprised if they beat us in a low scoring grind. Is the Tigers match a good time to try Sexton? We can probably win with Hutch, but we also should be able to win with Sexton, if he is ready and doing the business in reserve grade. I would have Hayward on the bench but if we are trying Sexton then Hutch or Sexton on the bench with the other guy starting. Hutch can play the Hayward role or just cover injuries. What I would do is. 1. Start Preston. 2. Starting props King and Curran. 3. Salmon back to lock. 4. Start Sexton. 5. Bench, Hughes, Morrin, Mann and Hutch. Sexton should get plenty of defensive help in this set up, we should have too much defence for the Tigers attack. Hutch on the bench is an insurance policy and he doesn't deserve to be dropped. He have 2 weeks to prepare, players can train in these positions to help form combinations. Even if it doesn't work out we should still be able to win the match. I would keep the same team. Lol Preston and Mann should come back in if they are fully fit. If we are intending to give Sexton a chance at any stage this is the best time to do it. All depends on how high we are aiming and what the coaches think is our best side. They might wait for an injury / suspension for Hutch to give Sexton a chance. I want to determine our best side soon and build from there, it takes a while to form combinations. Our best side has Hutch at halfback. Unless we buy an experienced halfback this year. Ciro wants somebody to direct the team. Sexton can’t do that.
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+x'Talking' isn't 7exys issue... It's the last get out clause for those suffering #BDS... 7exys D not as good as Crutch, but I reckon we cover the minor difference with Presto and Critter... And extra points scored on both sides of the park... It's great to have more opportunity out wide now our pack is at least matching, and occasionally overpowering the opposition in the middle... Gotta earn the right... And we are .. Sexy always has had a problem telling the forwards what to do. It’s not the first time I have heard that. Same was said on the Gold Coast.
Hutch is our halfback until O’Neill is ready. Or Sexy finds his voice. I doubt he will.
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+x+x'Talking' isn't 7exys issue... It's the last get out clause for those suffering #BDS... 7exys D not as good as Crutch, but I reckon we cover the minor difference with Presto and Critter... And extra points scored on both sides of the park... It's great to have more opportunity out wide now our pack is at least matching, and occasionally overpowering the opposition in the middle... Gotta earn the right... And we are .. I think Hutchison's size is key as to why he stiffens our defence. Opposition players usually look to target smaller players (who are typically halves or wingers). Having big halves in Burton and Hutch means the opposition looks up and doesn't have a player to target. Mahoney, Mann and Morrin are the smallest players. All 3 however dont take a backward step when it comes to tackling. Reed in particular is a demon and tackles player after player. Disrupting this by introducing a smaller half is not particularly what id like to see. I really like the idea of Taaffe in the halves but feel he'll definitely become the player opposition second rowers will look for. We are so close to winning a couple of games and breaking into the tip 8 at the midpoint of the season that i just dont want to risk losing any advantage we have built up. Im ok with experimenting if we lost a couple in a row.... Couldn’t agree more Marki. We should have two more wins and probably would have if it wasn’t for an inexperienced, young team playing together We are playing great footy and improving every week. That’s the worst time to make changes to the spine.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xGreat result. Perfect in fact. Ive always said we need to routinely go into games with the goal of scoring 4 or 5 tries and kerp the opposition to 2 or 3. It means you win the game by the 60-70th minute and the fans enjoy the game. Tracey has been exceptional since going to FB. He pokes his nose and gets quick PTB from his returns, he is good at organising the defence, and confident enough to play in the in-goal. His link play is improving very well. Burton also very good today, as was the Fox. I wasnt impressed with the Kennel crowd cheering when the announcer mentioned Hutch coming off for Taaffe. Hutch has been important to the teams defensive patterns and execution and adequate enough at halfback. Our team is different to Penrith, Eels, Storm, etc in that our halves dont actually create our points. Our points generally come from individual plays most of the time.. This means we are less reliant on our halves to create things specifically. This means, our halves just have to feed the ball to the danger players. On this basis, Hutch has been ok also. He does hog the ball once in a while but what that does is ensure the defence doesn't just slide off from him all game, so brings in variability. Im not sure we can keep a bench of Hayward and Taaffe for too many games though. Losing Patolo early had our forwards working overtime from the outset. Against a top 4 team and in a game where we dont dominate field position, that can mean disaster. CC will need to rethink this strategy. But all in all, a very pleasing performance and result. We can now rest with the BYE knowing another win or two would get us into the top 8 amd then who knows? I know right... Thank Dog they listened to you and scrapped the plan of scoring less points than the opposition... It rarely worked... Hutchs D is overrated... He runs too much... And the only good early ball he gives is to the only real half on the field... He's done literally nothing for Critter and Kiraz in attack... You spent years bagging our 4th tackle option and now you think our 7 rarely taking the right option is a positive... Marki has a strong case of BDS.
Hutch isn’t the answer. But we need a half that talks. It is very evident when you are live at the games, the amount of yelling instructions that Hutch does *Went to 1 game... Two actually... You? Hundreds...
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+x'Talking' isn't 7exys issue... It's the last get out clause for those suffering #BDS... 7exys D not as good as Crutch, but I reckon we cover the minor difference with Presto and Critter... And extra points scored on both sides of the park... It's great to have more opportunity out wide now our pack is at least matching, and occasionally overpowering the opposition in the middle... Gotta earn the right... And we are .. That is how I see it, Sexton gets a shot and succeeds of fails on merit, I now think that our defence is good enough to risk a few changes to improve the attack. If it doesn't work out we revert back to what we are doing now. If it does work out, our right side attack is more dangerous. We have just about found the perfect formula this season. But there still are times when we meander though a disorganised set at the opponent's end and waste a set. Sometimes a kick for a repeat set fixes this. If we are not changing the half, we need to change how we play..Burto has been sweeping around to the right side that helps. Hutch should be passing early more and running less.
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+x+x'Talking' isn't 7exys issue... It's the last get out clause for those suffering #BDS... 7exys D not as good as Crutch, but I reckon we cover the minor difference with Presto and Critter... And extra points scored on both sides of the park... It's great to have more opportunity out wide now our pack is at least matching, and occasionally overpowering the opposition in the middle... Gotta earn the right... And we are .. Sexy always has had a problem telling the forwards what to do. It’s not the first time I have heard that. Same was said on the Gold Coast. Yet Gus and CC signed him... Bloody idiots...
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When is the last time the @nrl_bulldogs were in the top 8??? #proudtobeabulldog #bye
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It's so nice to see... And to think we were only a missed tackle or a bombed try (or two) away from being 4th/5th...
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Whether we are paying $1 or $200K for RFM to play at Dragons, every cent is worth it...
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