Which of our current Olyroos are ready to step up to Socceroos?


Which of our current Olyroos are ready to step up to Socceroos?

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Bunch of Hacks - 4 May 2024 3:34 PM
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On pure skill yes I think hrustic is great and youre prob right prob our best but tactically and mentally not great ... his peripheral vision around him is poor always gets blindsided and decision making poor. Then mentality seems to drop his head/ act uninterested etc. As an overall package I still rate mcgree above any of our mids and forwards and think he has the highest ceiling. Already premier league quality imo. Easily can imagine him at an Everton or Fulham etc. And re bacchus I think he needs to sack his agent!  Played very well at the world cup, consistently one of our best for the Roos and yet can't move away from his lower half Scottish side. I do remember previously championship teams and AEK athens were linked to him but then nothing eventuated

St Mirren are 5th. There are 12 teams in the SPL. so they aren't bottom half.

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Lurker - 4 May 2024 6:37 PM
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St Mirren are 5th. There are 12 teams in the SPL. so they aren't bottom half.

Ok well smaller club/ mid table team/ traditionally lower half team etc. Its a small club with very limited budget. Think he deserves to be at an Aberdeen/Hibs/ Hearts at the very least if not Old firm. 
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Bunch of Hacks - 4 May 2024 7:13 PM
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Ok well smaller club/ mid table team/ traditionally lower half team etc. Its a small club with very limited budget. Think he deserves to be at an Aberdeen/Hibs/ Hearts at the very least if not Old firm. 

St Mirren are a community owned club based in a town of 77000.  It has a huge latent support which only comes out when the club makes a cup final. But, the ground is often full which means that 10% of the towns population attends matches there.

I know it well having been regularly lifted over the turnstiles at Love street as a child.

To say that it is a smaller club with a limited budget is condescending.
Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs are bigger but not better clubs.

There is no way Baccus is good enough for Rangers or Celtic.

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Quite a few. Circati, Volpato, Robertson, Bos, Niewenhof and Irankunda. Close to it Toure, Triantis, Farrell and G. Kuol. 
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This would be my full strength 26-man squad. U23's labelled. 

26-Man Squad
Forwards (7)
CF: Kusini Yengi
CF: John Iredale
RF: Nestory Irankunda* (U23)
RF: Martin Boyle
RF: Awer Mabil
LF: Craig Goodwin
LF/CF: Garang Kuol (U23)

Midfielders (9)

AM: Rylie McGree
AM: Ajdin Hrustic
AM: Christian Volpato* (U23)
CM: Massimo Luongo**
CM: Jackson Irvine
CM: Alex Robertson* (U23)
CM: Connor Metcalfe
DM: Aiden O'Neill
DM: Callum Nieuwenhof (U23)

Defenders (7)

CB: Harry Souttar
CB: Alex Circati* (U23)
CB: Max Burgess
LB: Jordan Bos (U23)
LB/CB: Kye Rowles
RB: Ryan Strain
RB: Nathanial Atkinson

Goalkeepers (3)
GK: Mat Ryan
GK: Joe Gauci
GK: Mitchell Langerak**

*If chooses Australia
**If chooses to come out of retirement


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Lurker - 5 May 2024 5:39 AM
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St Mirren are a community owned club based in a town of 77000.  It has a huge latent support which only comes out when the club makes a cup final. But, the ground is often full which means that 10% of the towns population attends matches there.

I know it well having been regularly lifted over the turnstiles at Love street as a child.

To say that it is a smaller club with a limited budget is condescending.
Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs are bigger but not better clubs.

There is no way Baccus is good enough for Rangers or Celtic.

Hearts and hibs are definitely bigger and better clubs, especially in case of hearts. If Cammy devlin can play for hearts then Bacchus walks into the team and he's def good enough to be a squaddie at Celtic or rangers albeit I concede not a starter. 
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Quicky - 5 May 2024 1:37 PM
This would be my full strength 26-man squad. U23's labelled. 

26-Man Squad
Forwards (7)
CF: Kusini Yengi
CF: John Iredale
RF: Nestory Irankunda* (U23)
RF: Martin Boyle
RF: Awer Mabil
LF: Craig Goodwin
LF/CF: Garang Kuol (U23)

Midfielders (9)

AM: Rylie McGree
AM: Ajdin Hrustic
AM: Christian Volpato* (U23)
CM: Massimo Luongo**
CM: Jackson Irvine
CM: Alex Robertson* (U23)
CM: Connor Metcalfe
DM: Aiden O'Neill
DM: Callum Nieuwenhof (U23)

Defenders (7)

CB: Harry Souttar
CB: Alex Circati* (U23)
CB: Max Burgess
LB: Jordan Bos (U23)
LB/CB: Kye Rowles
RB: Ryan Strain
RB: Nathanial Atkinson

Goalkeepers (3)
GK: Mat Ryan
GK: Joe Gauci
GK: Mitchell Langerak**

*If chooses Australia
**If chooses to come out of retirement


Good squad 👌 

This would be my 26-man squad. 
26-Man Squad
Forwards (7)
CF: Kusini Yengi, Mo Toure 
RF/RAM: Hrustic, Arzani, Boyle
LF/LAM: Craig Goodwin, Volpato


Midfielders 7
AM: Rylie McGree, Robertson  
CM: Massimo Luongo, Jackson Irvine 
DM: oneill, bacchus, Nieuwenhof 

Defenders/wingbacks 9
LCB: Burgess, Farrell
CB: Souttar, Rowles 
RCB: Circati 
LWB: Jordan Bos, Metcalfe
RWB: Ryan Strain, Atkinson 

Goalkeepers 
GK: Mat Ryan, Joe Gauci, Langerak


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Bunch of Hacks - 5 May 2024 6:21 PM
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Hearts and hibs are definitely bigger and better clubs, especially in case of hearts. If Cammy devlin can play for hearts then Bacchus walks into the team and he's def good enough to be a squaddie at Celtic or rangers albeit I concede not a starter. 

Bigger yes.

Hibs is definitely not better. It is in the relegation group in the SPL this year.

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Courtney - Perkins

 I thought C-P was only mediocre in the lead up games to the Qatar Olympic Qualifying tournament.  Admittedly, in one game C-P was played at LB, where I  thought he struggled in his  defensive duties -  jockeying, showing, delaying and timing his tackles in a wider position.

Yet in the three games in Qatar C-P excelled as a CB in his defensive duties - jockeying, tackling, delaying, heading, body on body duels - plus he displayed good distribution. Moreover, he played well going forwards when ball carrying.

C-P held his CB position well as part of a team defensive unit in Qatar. I can't remember him making an errant defensive pass, even under pressure.  An all round CB. One of the newer all round good ball winners and good ball playing CBs we are producing on a regular basis in Aus. He probably looks a bit older, but I think he is only 21. I think he is on the way to overtaking a number of CBs in the senior Socceroo pecking order if he plays like he did in Qatar - and- continues to improve.



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Teague

I don't think Teague is quite ready for senior Socceroo selection yet, but his broad skill set as a specialist 6, or single DM screener, has him fast catching, or even overtaking, more senior Socceroo DMs - Baccus, Genreau, Irvine, Metcalfe, Devlin, et al - in some cases .

 I think Nieuw is more effective, as a  ball winner than Teague, whilst O'Neill is more polished and more rugged than the Melb Vic player.  Teague repeatedly tackles off the wrong foot when opponents try and go around the right side of his body,  using  his preferred left foot.  Hence,   his   body  position is less effective. 

What is really impressive is Teague has  similar positioning as the sole screening Defensive  Midfielder as Mile Jedinak.  Like the former  Socceroo captain, Teague is very disciplined in how he keeps the screen  in front of the Aus back four   - often by  himself.

At times, Youlley or Jelacic on the right, and Jake Hollman on the left, when the U23 Socceroos assume the attacking midfield triangle in a 4-3-3  in Ball Possession, and Aus rotates the the midfield triangle,  play  closer to Teague as Aus plays out.

Teague's ability to play in tight pass and move sequences is good, like most of  the U 23s and younger Aussies. His passing over range is decent too, but unlike Youlley who can  passover range with both feet, which is rare, Teague plays the longer diagonal balls with his preferred left foot.  Teague is usually a solid tackler and reads when to make them  effectively too. He just heeds to work on tackling with his non-preferred right foot, so he can tackle with both feet with optimum body shape - like Aaron Mooy or Tom Rogic did.

Whereas Teague's  disciplined positional screening  play reminds me of Jedi's, he is nowhere near as good as the former  Socceroo skipper in aerial duels or as an enforcer - yet. However, his technique on the ball is vastly superior to Jedi's.

ATM Arnold probably prefers  Yazbek, who also tackles off the wrong foot too, but I think Teague has a superior array of skills for a specialist 6. Not having seen as much of Yazbek, he may be quicker over the turf and be more capable of adapting to the number 8 role, as well as 6, than Teague.  I noted a few months back Vidmar preferred Teague as the starting screener over both Niew and Yazbek.

If he keeps on his recent upward trajectory, Teague will be pushing for a Socceroos squad berth sooner than later.

 
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Decentric 2 - 5 May 2024 11:27 PM
Courtney - Perkins

 I thought C-P was only mediocre in the lead up games to the Qatar Olympic Qualifying tournament.  Admittedly, in one game C-P was played at LB, where I  thought he struggled in his  defensive duties -  jockeying, showing, delaying and timing his tackles in a wider position.

Yet in the three games in Qatar C-P excelled as a CB in his defensive duties - jockeying, tackling, delaying, heading, body on body duels - plus he displayed good distribution. Moreover, he played well going forwards when ball carrying.

C-P held his CB position well as part of a team defensive unit in Qatar. I can't remember him making an errant defensive pass, even under pressure.  An all round CB. One of the newer all round good ball winners and good ball playing CBs we are producing on a regular basis in Aus. He probably looks a bit older, but I think he is only 21. I think he is on the way to overtaking a number of CBs in the senior Socceroo pecking order if he plays like he did in Qatar - and- continues to improve.



He’s been playing LB for Sydney and even played LW against Macarthur the other night.
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Bunch of Hacks - 4 May 2024 3:35 PM
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Bovalina eh.. cheers will take a look

The only U 23 game I saw him play at RB,  was when  where Aus dominated. Bovalina  wasn't put under a lot of defensive pressure, so I could  not really evaluate his   defending qualities.

I think in that game Aus had a game plan of attacking on the left flank, so Bovalina either tucked in and played a back three as Aus advanced on the left flank. Or deployed the new inversion tactic where he tucked in closer and in line  with the   defensive midfield screener, to negate opposition counter attacks.
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sub007 - 6 May 2024 12:09 AM
Decentric 2 - 5 May 2024 11:27 PM

He’s been playing LB for Sydney and even played LW against Macarthur the other night.

I've  seen all the three min highlights of SFC games - not full games.

So are you telling me C-P usually plays LB than CB in the AL for SFC?

If that is the  case I'm astonished? Both Farrell and Mauragis are better at LB with  the Aus U 23s, but C-P excelled at  left CB in Qatar for the team. He would have been a candidate for best outfield player for Aus over the three games.

In previous Aus U 23 hit outs he was better at left CB than LB too. Vidmar preferred him to Natta as left CB in Qatar, whilst usually preferring Natta as left CB in lead up games.

C-P is a very versatile footballer!



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Decentric 2 - 6 May 2024 12:24 AM
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I've  seen all the three min highlights of SFC games - not full games.

So are you telling me C-P usually plays LB than CB in the AL for SFC?

If that is the  case I'm astonished? Both Farrell and Mauragis are better at LB with  the Aus U 23s, but C-P excelled at  left CB in Qatar for the team. He would have been a candidate for best outfield player for Aus over the three games.

In previous Aus U 23 hit outs he was better at left CB than LB too. Vidmar preferred him to Natta as left CB in Qatar, whilst usually preferring Natta as left CB in lead up games.

C-P is a very versatile footballer!



Yes. For most of the season, Jake Girdwood-Reich has played out of position there and has partnered one of Lacerda, Rodwell or young Hayden Mathews who has been nothing short of brilliant since breaking into the first team. On Saturday, Rodwell partnered Matthew’s at CB, Joel King played LB and Courtney-Perkins played LW.

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On pure skill yes I think hrustic is great and youre prob right prob our best but tactically and mentally not great ... his peripheral vision around him is poor always gets blindsided and decision making poor. Then mentality seems to drop his head/ act uninterested etc. As an overall package I still rate mcgree above any of our mids and forwards and think he has the highest ceiling. Already premier league quality imo. Easily can imagine him at an Everton or Fulham etc. And re bacchus I think he needs to sack his agent!  Played very well at the world cup, consistently one of our best for the Roos and yet can't move away from his lower half Scottish side. I do remember previously championship teams and AEK athens were linked to him but then nothing eventuated

Hrustic 

Seems to have improved his vision and speed of thought since playing in the Eredivisie - which has been much needed. He played one lovely deft lob on a plate for an assist to a recent  Goodwin goal  for the Socceroos. His  problem is there are  so many younger Socceroos aged 22 and under, who are quality technicians on the ball - and  they work hard to defend too.

McGree

Looks pretty good  technically compared to most of his current senior Socceroo teammates in the front 6 , but there is so much quantity of quality, young 22 years and under Aussie midfielders who are decent technicians coming  through - already at least as good as as McGree - on the ball. 

Baccus

Would love to see him join Hrustic in the  Netherlands, or O'Neill in Belgium. Switzerland would be a good option, as would Portugal, but for some reason Aussies have struggled to get starting positions in the top div in Portugal.

One of the big four Greek clubs - PAOK, AEK Athens, Olympiakos or Panathainakos - would be good for Baccus too. Most of these 4 must play some UEFA Champ league or Europa League football.

I think Nieuw may have marginally overtaken him in recent times.

Arnie is on record as saying these younger Aussies can do things he hasn't seen Aussie players do in previous generations.

 
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Yes. For most of the season, Jake Girdwood-Reich has played out of position there and has partnered one of Lacerda, Rodwell or young Hayden Mathews who has been nothing short of brilliant since breaking into the first team. On Saturday, Rodwell partnered Matthew’s at CB, Joel King played LB and Courtney-Perkins played LW.

I could not  get over how good C-P was going forwards when he played at  LB  for the Aus U 23s, but struggled in his  defensive duties at LB,  whilst excelling in his defensive duties as a CB. I assumed C-P was a specialist CB!

What a  versatile player - left CB, LB and LW! 

There was a scoring chance for SFC in the replay, which involved C-P. Had no idea he was playing at LW?

Maybe this guy needs to play senior Socceroo football - to provide  cover in so many positions! 

Not only did Vidmar prefer C-B as CB over Natta, but also G-R. I've been told off forum how good Matthews is too - and still very young.
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Lurker - 4 May 2024 11:35 AM
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You haven't got a clue about Scottish football.

According to you Scotland is one of the epicentres in world football. 

Raw stats and playing style indicate it is still essentially an old fashioned hoof ball league. I've seen recent Scottish Cup games. There is still a lot of  fighting for the ball in  transitional phases of play, where both teams battle for control of the ball  in the case of  a number of Scottish teams. Too often teams struggle to possess the ball for 5- 10 pass sequences whilst gaining territory into the midfield and even the attacking third.

Third man runs are infrequent, apart  from the better teams. 

Turnovers occur far too frequently in the Scottish league.



I can't remember seeing full backs hoof it into orbit, when there are players showing for the ball on the deck and opening viable passing lanes  within a few metres - like one sees in Scotland. Watching A L and Asian international football, hoofing it is only a last resort when all passing lanes are closed down. 

Thankfully, when I've had a look at some recent national team Scottish games, they are playing some better football.

Not sure how when Aus football is discussed on an Aussie football  forum, you are always keen to change the topic to  Scottish football?

Are you a Scot living in Aus, or a Scot living in Scotland?     
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sub007 - 4 May 2024 2:07 PM


And lastly, a potential call-up from left field. Giuseppe Bovalina had a good first season in the ALM and has now gone to the MLS. If he plays regularly there, then he should definitely be in consideration.

MLS?

How many games  do they play? They tend to play on good pitches in the MLS.

I've seen quite a bit of Simmons for WSW at RB live this season and have been pretty impressed.

That  Bovalina is selected in front of him for national Aus underage teams, indicates  he must be a pretty  good player, despite the game I saw him play for the Aus U 23s,  he wasn't under under much defensive pressure, and most of the  attacking play probably went on the left flank instead. 

Sadly,  I've seen very little of AU this season to get a better look at Bovalina and evaluate him.
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Bunch of Hacks - 2 May 2024 12:03 AM
I'll add Nector Triantis also whose now been playing for Hibs and the great whiz kid Irakunda. 

Agree with the latter, but in the only Olyroo game I saw Triantis he was sent off, and failed to impress.

It might have been against Saudi or Qatar?

Aus won easily on the scoreboard.

Based on that one game, he would be nowhere near the senior Socceroos. Of course it is only one game though.
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Borello has had crap season. Arzani before him for me

Apart from  scoring sufficient  goals as a winger, Arzani has had a good season. Love watching his flashy dribbling! 

 Last week he just banged in two good goals with his left foot!

At last!
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Decentric 2 - 6 May 2024 1:47 AM
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MLS?

How many games  do they play? They tend to play on good pitches in the MLS.

I've seen quite a bit of Simmons for WSW at RB live this season and have been pretty impressed.

That  Bovalina is selected in front of him for national Aus underage teams, indicates  he must be a pretty  good player, despite the game I saw him play for the Aus U 23s,  he wasn't under under much defensive pressure, and most of the  attacking play probably went on the left flank instead. 

Sadly,  I've seen very little of AU this season to get a better look at Bovalina and evaluate him.

I don’t fully understand how the MLS works but my understanding is that they play 34 matches. However from what I’ve heard, Vancouver haven’t got his visa sorted yet so I’m not sure when he’ll debut for them.

Bova is a very attacking full-back and scored a lot of goals at NPL level. He scored one at ALM level and really should’ve scored a few more.
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Decentric 2 - 6 May 2024 1:47 AM
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MLS?

How many games  do they play? They tend to play on good pitches in the MLS.

I've seen quite a bit of Simmons for WSW at RB live this season and have been pretty impressed.

That  Bovalina is selected in front of him for national Aus underage teams, indicates  he must be a pretty  good player, despite the game I saw him play for the Aus U 23s,  he wasn't under under much defensive pressure, and most of the  attacking play probably went on the left flank instead. 

Sadly,  I've seen very little of AU this season to get a better look at Bovalina and evaluate him.
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Hrustic 

Seems to have improved his vision and speed of thought since playing in the Eredivisie - which has been much needed. He played one lovely deft lob on a plate for an assist to a recent  Goodwin goal  for the Socceroos. His  problem is there are  so many younger Socceroos aged 22 and under, who are quality technicians on the ball - and  they work hard to defend too.

McGree

Looks pretty good  technically compared to most of his current senior Socceroo teammates in the front 6 , but there is so much quantity of quality, young 22 years and under Aussie midfielders who are decent technicians coming  through - already at least as good as as McGree - on the ball. 

Baccus

Would love to see him join Hrustic in the  Netherlands, or O'Neill in Belgium. Switzerland would be a good option, as would Portugal, but for some reason Aussies have struggled to get starting positions in the top div in Portugal.

One of the big four Greek clubs - PAOK, AEK Athens, Olympiakos or Panathainakos - would be good for Baccus too. Most of these 4 must play some UEFA Champ league or Europa League football.

I think Nieuw may have marginally overtaken him in recent times.

Arnie is on record as saying these younger Aussies can do things he hasn't seen Aussie players do in previous generations.

 

I thought that pass he played was poor.. it was too slow to get to him and wasn't in front on him. Goodwin did amazingly to make it a good pass in the end. Had the ball been a bit quicker and in front of him it would have been a lot easier to finish. 

Re Mcgree I think he's still a level above Brook, Vel, milanovic, Hollman etc. 

Bacchus was linked to AEK previously which would have been a great move for him! 
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Decentric 2 - 5 May 2024 11:27 PM
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 I thought C-P was only mediocre in the lead up games to the Qatar Olympic Qualifying tournament.  Admittedly, in one game C-P was played at LB, where I  thought he struggled in his  defensive duties -  jockeying, showing, delaying and timing his tackles in a wider position.

Yet in the three games in Qatar C-P excelled as a CB in his defensive duties - jockeying, tackling, delaying, heading, body on body duels - plus he displayed good distribution. Moreover, he played well going forwards when ball carrying.

C-P held his CB position well as part of a team defensive unit in Qatar. I can't remember him making an errant defensive pass, even under pressure.  An all round CB. One of the newer all round good ball winners and good ball playing CBs we are producing on a regular basis in Aus. He probably looks a bit older, but I think he is only 21. I think he is on the way to overtaking a number of CBs in the senior Socceroo pecking order if he plays like he did in Qatar - and- continues to improve.



Not having watched SFC much this year, or not taking much notice of their defenders, or not knowing much about them, I hadn't realised C-P plays as a Left Winger for SFC?

I'm gobsmacked!  C-P was close to the most  consistent and best Olyroo in Qatar in the Olympic Qualifying tournament playing CB! Maybe SFC fans can put the record straight and tell us which position he plays in club football  for SFC? 

C-P is a very versatile footballer! 
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Not having watched SFC much this year, or not taking much notice of their defenders, or not knowing much about them, I hadn't realised C-P plays as a Left Winger for SFC?

I'm gobsmacked!  C-P was close to the most  consistent and best Olyroo in Qatar in the Olympic Qualifying tournament playing CB! Maybe SFC fans can put the record straight and tell us which position he plays in club football  for SFC? 

C-P is a very versatile footballer! 

He's a defender, he's played LB for most of the season, but pushed up to left midfield to accommodate King at LB.
Sydney has 2 excellent young centre backs inGridwood-Reich & Matthews. 
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He's a defender, he's played LB for most of the season, but pushed up to left midfield to accommodate King at LB.
Sydney has 2 excellent young centre backs inGridwood-Reich & Matthews. 

JGR is naturally a DM and was a makeshift CB.
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Valadon

This guy has a big future for mine. Not because he has played a lot of minutes at pro senior level, but because of the skill set he has.

Robbie Slater thought Valadon was dominant in the CCM final, but I thought he wasn't on the ball as much as  he needs to be for the the type of  player he is - a potential midfield general.

More so than in the Olyroo games in Qatar, CCM's Squeezing and Pressing in the grand final, closed his passing lanes down more effectively than in Qatar.   He didn't work hard enough to create space, and also check, to  shake his  Mariner makers. He is starting to win more hard balls, but can still be easily physically overpowered. 

What is  impressive is when Valadon is on the ball he is  has such fast handling speed, he can receive and pass the ball on in tight spaces with little time on the ball.   He can also  execute pinpoint passes over range, having good vision to support his technique. He provided the assist (in little time and space) for Geria to score after Arzani dribbled around a few  Mariners. Valadon also did some good things against Nix, but not enough of it.

Valadon can be quite a weapon against the Asian deep defensive blocks that currently trouble Arnie's  first choice eleven ATM.   



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He's a defender, he's played LB for most of the season, but pushed up to left midfield to accommodate King at LB.
Sydney has 2 excellent young centre backs inGridwood-Reich & Matthews. 

Haven't seen as much of GR for SFC, only a few games for the Olyroos.

Matthews looks like an impressive young CB for SFC. He has height too. 
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Valadon, Teague and Arzani have performed some  slick pass and move sequences  amongst them for Melb Vic - all good for the senior Socceroos. 
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I think it's great Valadon started a grand final and did well. These young players need 3 full seasons now to really craft themselves. I just hope the typical foreign signings don't come in to relegate them to the bench. We've got plenty of good young local talent doing just as well as imports or senior Australians moving home.

Matthews at Sydney is a great example of coming in so raw and making a great account of himself. Now that Alfred has left Brisbane and Perth have had a defensive clean out, I hope that U20 and even Joeys can start being added into these game day squads. 
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