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Does this mean you need a higher license to coach/ manage in the SPFL to the FIFA World cup? or is this just a made up problem? 
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scubaroo - 30 May 2021 11:00 AM
MvFCArsenal16.8 - 30 May 2021 10:51 AM

It's been reported that he had a specific badge for when he was in Greece,  which may or may not have been updated since and its being reported to manage in the SPFL he needs to have UEFA pro which is 4 levels higher than what he previously had,  if he still has it. 

It may be that the bloke that would be his assistant will be the one who holds the UEFA pro but it doesn't look good. 

when looking at the cirruculum https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/news/0268-11f1908f8de9-9feac6d280b8-1000/

 he could teach the theoretical part of  course, and 240 hours  of practical on the pitch experience? seriously a guy who has coached at the World Cup needs more practical experience?

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southmelb - 30 May 2021 10:40 AM
Either way his squad is still going to be the 2nd best in the league.

Jumped on board Celtic when Viduka went there, 30 goals in 37 games or something, was always going to move to the epl, this would be Ange’s big chance.

If Ange is the gaffa, I'm a Celtic fan. 'Go Hoops!'
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MvFCArsenal16.8 - 30 May 2021 10:51 AM
scubaroo - 30 May 2021 1:21 AM

He has his badges.  He coached in europe before 

It's been reported that he had a specific badge for when he was in Greece,  which may or may not have been updated since and its being reported to manage in the SPFL he needs to have UEFA pro which is 4 levels higher than what he previously had,  if he still has it. 

It may be that the bloke that would be his assistant will be the one who holds the UEFA pro but it doesn't look good. 
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Bocca - 30 May 2021 10:05 AM
SUTHERLANDBEAR - 30 May 2021 10:03 AM

That's not a bad thing though as Ange would get to rebuild the team he wants. It would be worse if he had takeover someone elses team that had just won the league IMO.

they won't give him the time.

if he went to some top half club with ambition, whoever the hell that is in Scotland, in his second season he'd be challenging Celtic and Rangers and could well win it.

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tsf - 30 May 2021 10:28 AM
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Of course but do you really think the likes of Livingstone are going into the season with a squad on par with Celtic? 

do you think Livingstone will be the team they need to beat to win the league?

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scubaroo - 30 May 2021 1:21 AM
Now it appears that Ange is in the same boat as Muscat was, he doesn't have the required badges. 

He has his badges.  He coached in europe before 
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celtsrhere67 - 29 May 2021 11:44 PM
Bocca - 29 May 2021 5:07 PM

I'd honestly love if he did that, however with such a large overhaul at the club and we're talking everything from fitness coaches to recruitment and sports science it would be a miracle if he was to win trophies in his first season. It's also hard to see us how we won't get embarrassed in Europe when our backline currently consists of Greg Taylor, Stephen Welsh, Jack Hendry and Anthony Ralston holy fuck we are screwed. A big name like Howe would at least get a large section of supporters back on board as it would show intent that we were looking at the best available managers expensive or not, he'd also attract decent former players that have already played under him. Ange is always going to be looked at as the 'cheap' option, while he might be a fantastic coach the lack of experience in Europe is massively concerning, let alone in Scotland where he will be in the limelight under constant scrutiny even just going to the shops or going for a walk.

 I think he would enjoy the challenge of it all but not sure how he will feel when he's 3 months in and players are already having their heads turned by agents after a few bad results, having to do press confrences almost every day while the media twist his words, the taunting from the other side on the streets, the weather pissing it down almost all year, dealing with a tight board that will do him no favours, and the supporters/squad possibly turning against him. Just can't see how shits not going to hit the fan when it's almost an impossible job to turn this mess around within the space of 1-2 months, all power to him if he can turn it around but I don't see things changing until proper money is invested.

when you put it like that, he'd have rocks in his head to take the job he's been tapped for, ( yes tapped because I don't think he would have applied for it.)


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Either way his squad is still going to be the 2nd best in the league.

Jumped on board Celtic when Viduka went there, 30 goals in 37 games or something, was always going to move to the epl, this would be Ange’s big chance.
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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 30 May 2021 10:03 AM
tsf - 30 May 2021 9:30 AM

Do you have any idea of the mess they are in squad wise ?

The what’s left of the present squad lost the league by 25 points.

Of course but do you really think the likes of Livingstone are going into the season with a squad on par with Celtic? 
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Ange will win Scott Premier League then get to EPL.
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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 30 May 2021 10:03 AM
tsf - 30 May 2021 9:30 AM

Do you have any idea of the mess they are in squad wise ?

The what’s left of the present squad lost the league by 25 points.

That's not a bad thing though as Ange would get to rebuild the team he wants. It would be worse if he had takeover someone elses team that had just won the league IMO.
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tsf - 30 May 2021 9:30 AM
You’d expect him to get faster results anyway as he’s going to have the strongest squad in the league most likely. 

In recent years he’s never gone in with a squad/budget more than as good as others. 

Do you have any idea of the mess they are in squad wise ?

The what’s left of the present squad lost the league by 25 points.
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You’d expect him to get faster results anyway as he’s going to have the strongest squad in the league most likely. 

In recent years he’s never gone in with a squad/budget more than as good as others. 

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Now it appears that Ange is in the same boat as Muscat was, he doesn't have the required badges. 
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celtsrhere67 - 29 May 2021 11:44 PM
Bocca - 29 May 2021 5:07 PM

I'd honestly love if he did that, however with such a large overhaul at the club and we're talking everything from fitness coaches to recruitment and sports science it would be a miracle if he was to win trophies in his first season. It's also hard to see us how we won't get embarrassed in Europe when our backline currently consists of Greg Taylor, Stephen Welsh, Jack Hendry and Anthony Ralston holy fuck we are screwed. A big name like Howe would at least get a large section of supporters back on board as it would show intent that we were looking at the best available managers expensive or not, he'd also attract decent former players that have already played under him. Ange is always going to be looked at as the 'cheap' option, while he might be a fantastic coach the lack of experience in Europe is massively concerning, let alone in Scotland where he will be in the limelight under constant scrutiny even just going to the shops or going for a walk.

 I think he would enjoy the challenge of it all but not sure how he will feel when he's 3 months in and players are already having their heads turned by agents after a few bad results, having to do press confrences almost every day while the media twist his words, the taunting from the other side on the streets, the weather pissing it down almost all year, dealing with a tight board that will do him no favours, and the supporters/squad possibly turning against him. Just can't see how shits not going to hit the fan when it's almost an impossible job to turn this mess around within the space of 1-2 months, all power to him if he can turn it around but I don't see things changing until proper money is invested.

None of the media shit will worry Ange, hes too damn stubborn.

Anges issue is as you say with the defenders,  but he does CFG to call on for recruiting but he won't just take what they throw at him,  it'll be on his terms.  I herd a podcast saying that expect him to be a "CFG Yes Man" they are sadly mistaken.
The other issue is that some Celtic fans have already judged him,  he will never win them over,  but he can win over the rest,  if he can bypass that bumpy stage he almost always has at the start of him tenures.
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Bocca - 29 May 2021 5:07 PM
celtsrhere67 - 29 May 2021 3:23 PM

You hire Ange to win trophies in style and dominate your opposition. Just because he is Australian doesn't mean he isn't a fantastic coach.

I'd honestly love if he did that, however with such a large overhaul at the club and we're talking everything from fitness coaches to recruitment and sports science it would be a miracle if he was to win trophies in his first season. It's also hard to see us how we won't get embarrassed in Europe when our backline currently consists of Greg Taylor, Stephen Welsh, Jack Hendry and Anthony Ralston holy fuck we are screwed. A big name like Howe would at least get a large section of supporters back on board as it would show intent that we were looking at the best available managers expensive or not, he'd also attract decent former players that have already played under him. Ange is always going to be looked at as the 'cheap' option, while he might be a fantastic coach the lack of experience in Europe is massively concerning, let alone in Scotland where he will be in the limelight under constant scrutiny even just going to the shops or going for a walk.

 I think he would enjoy the challenge of it all but not sure how he will feel when he's 3 months in and players are already having their heads turned by agents after a few bad results, having to do press confrences almost every day while the media twist his words, the taunting from the other side on the streets, the weather pissing it down almost all year, dealing with a tight board that will do him no favours, and the supporters/squad possibly turning against him. Just can't see how shits not going to hit the fan when it's almost an impossible job to turn this mess around within the space of 1-2 months, all power to him if he can turn it around but I don't see things changing until proper money is invested.
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Balin Trev - 29 May 2021 11:04 AM
sub007 - 29 May 2021 10:42 AM

Most Aussies that go to celtic don’t do well 😂 

When will Arnie get linked to a club like Celtic ;)
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johnszasz - 29 May 2021 11:03 PM
Regardless of what happens if he goes, his previous achievements are locked in. I just want to see it. I'd anticipate a decent kind of start, a small peak and he'd really be in the good books. A dip and a jump back and just hopefully a second season with decent recruiting and European games to really branch out. If he doesn't go we'll never know.

A great achievement indeed... I really hope he gets given the chance
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Regardless of what happens if he goes, his previous achievements are locked in. I just want to see it. I'd anticipate a decent kind of start, a small peak and he'd really be in the good books. A dip and a jump back and just hopefully a second season with decent recruiting and European games to really branch out. If he doesn't go we'll never know.
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Twitter chatter saying Tuesday for any kind of announcement regarding their manager search. Who knows?

Some very interesting talk about. The more sane posts are coming through about how Ange is a solid candidate. Some of the British managers being suggested make me laugh as it's the same horrible football. Mark Hughes and Martin O'Neill just really are part of the manager recycling system now. Ange would be a chance worth taking.
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From Bob Jane to Paradise..... One "ethnic club" to another .... go Angie.... a true son of Hellas......
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When do the think they will announce any information on the Manager?


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Bocca - 29 May 2021 5:07 PM
celtsrhere67 - 29 May 2021 3:23 PM

You hire Ange to win trophies in style and dominate your opposition. Just because he is Australian doesn't mean he isn't a fantastic coach.

He will going to them as a Manager, not a coach. John Kennedy will likely be the first team coach.
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Ange could take Muscat or Papas as an assistant to Celtic.
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celtsrhere67 - 29 May 2021 3:23 PM
josh sydneyfc - 29 May 2021 12:34 PM

25/26 years ago, without the success in France prior Arsenal would've never went for him- so bit of a difference. We're going through our banter years right now and the board is gambling with 30m worth of Champions League money once again, if they think bringing in Ange and giving him 10-15m to spend is going to get us into the Champions League then their deluded. The truth is the board are happy to settle with 2nd (or 3rd/4th) best option so long as operation costs are cut, hence why the support are up in arms about how the club is being run.

You hire Ange to win trophies in style and dominate your opposition. Just because he is Australian doesn't mean he isn't a fantastic coach.
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celtsrhere67 - 29 May 2021 3:23 PM
josh sydneyfc - 29 May 2021 12:34 PM

25/26 years ago, without the success in France prior Arsenal would've never went for him- so bit of a difference. We're going through our banter years right now and the board is gambling with 30m worth of Champions League money once again, if they think bringing in Ange and giving him 10-15m to spend is going to get us into the Champions League then their deluded. The truth is the board are happy to settle with 2nd (or 3rd/4th) best option so long as operation costs are cut, hence why the support are up in arms about how the club is being run.

Ange isn't a second place coach, it's 1st of 5th.
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josh sydneyfc - 29 May 2021 12:34 PM
They give me the shits the Celtic fans. 
Where did Arsenal get Wenger from you clowns. 

25/26 years ago, without the success in France prior Arsenal would've never went for him- so bit of a difference. We're going through our banter years right now and the board is gambling with 30m worth of Champions League money once again, if they think bringing in Ange and giving him 10-15m to spend is going to get us into the Champions League then their deluded. The truth is the board are happy to settle with 2nd (or 3rd/4th) best option so long as operation costs are cut, hence why the support are up in arms about how the club is being run.
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I see a lot of Ange fans worry this might be a bad idea (hostile fans who want instant success, hyper media pressure and glare, the disrespect to his managerial record) but I think this is perfect for Ange because he loves situations where he is told it’s impossible, he thrives on this and the Celtic job seems impossible. I don’t see much downside for him either. If he bombs, I can’t see it affecting his current profile much. But if he succeeds, the sky is the limit.... Ange doesn’t back away from these situations. 

Of course the one major concern is how long it takes him to get the squad playing Ange ball and whether he’d be fired before his style bore fruit. But it’s now or never and he knows this. 

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This would be massive for Ange's career, this would top it off if gets the gig.

No doubt it would benefit Australian football massively if he does well especially for the coaches trying to get into Europe, we have seen how tough its been for Australian coaches trying to make it so this could be a potential circuit breaker here.
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